Indian Planes Violate Pakistani Airspace – An act of WAR
It is being widely reported that around 12:40am today December 14, 2008 fully armed Indian fighter jets violated Pakistani airspace at two specific locations, one around Kashmir area and the other near Lahore traveling 4km into the territory. Agile Pakistani fighter jets were scrambled and distracted the Indian encroachment very quickly.
The official response by Indian sources is said to be an inadvertent mistake. But one must seriously question this lame explanation specially in light of the coordinated violation in two separate sectors and within the close proximity of the heated propaganda being waged by the India government.
Meanwhile, a state run TV channel has also reported that a loud blast was heard in Arabian Sea between Badin and Jati cities Saturday night which may apparently be linked to the two incursions in the northern regions of Pakistan
These aggressive moves by the India government come very closely followed by a very aggressive propaganda waged by the Indians in the past few days, Pakistan has generally complied but it seems that India wants to push the levels of tolerance, I think Pakistan should seriously take this incident as a threat to its sovereignty and respond with some very strong words. If this were to lead to any level of an armed conflict we can hold India responsible. While we as Pakistanis must join hands to condemn India and object to this aggressiveness
Coverage: Ammar 3Sixty
Categories: Crisis, India, Pakistan, Politics
Now this is completely lame! Fully armed fighter jets, 4km in Pakistan territory! Were they looking for a picnic spot? :S
by Haris Nadeem on Dec 14, 2008 at 4:57 am
“Inadvertent mistake” !!!
Does’nt happen with hi-tech navigation etc…! Obviously a dangerous game is being played here!
by Dr Adil Mannan on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:11 am
What amuses me more is Sherry’s statement on this.
My take on this at:
http://blogistaan.com/2008/12/13/i-haz-entered-pakistan-yay/
by DjFlush on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:12 am
Is Sherry Rehman our spokesperson or their’s?
by Anas Imtiaz on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:12 am
I wont be surprised if our govt apologizes the Indian Govt. for firing on their airplanes which came into Pakistani airspace “by mistake” seriously are they for real?
by Muhammad Omer Arshad on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:22 am
The Nation also reported that they were caring warheads. I wonder if Pakistan would test fire our own nukes in Indian territory just to make sure they aren’t getting rusty.
by UzEE on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:23 am
@drawab maybe you can lend the Indian Airforce your GPS maps, they can surely use them :D
by ReallyVirtual on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:48 am
How dare they! i must be having a ghulail to shoot them down!
by Ahmed on Dec 14, 2008 at 7:09 am
Even in this situation the information minister wants the media not to “exaggerate” the issue. Even if the enemy is pointing a weapon on you, these people will make you believe that the situation is under control.
I’ve also heard on a channel that the fighter jets were remote controlled?
by Shoaib Hashmi on Dec 14, 2008 at 7:15 am
Pakistani jets could take em down. It would be a shock for Indian air force if only we had took them down within the Pakistani territory.
by Muhammad Haris on Dec 14, 2008 at 7:23 am
Two aircrafts can not violate two different sectors of a country, you’re having tensions with – by mistake. It was an attempt on part of IAF to probe our aerial defenses and PAF’s preparedness. They’ve to take this in to account, since they’re setting up plans to perform surgical strikes in certain areas of Pakistan.
by Saad on Dec 14, 2008 at 8:24 am
Such inadvertent technical mistakes are not at all a navigation failure nor are they a matter of sovereign threat in terms of violation.
There is always a span of 15 to 20 km between two no fly zones.
This span as safe zone is utilized for reactionary purposes so to react through aerial interception and engagement which require 3 to 5 minutes in dire need.
However during era of escalation and reservation between countries such iatrogenic violations are always perceived as suspicious and contagious.
Aircrafts and fighter planes do crosses such demarcations inadvertently but interceptions via radar and aerial response reception the intruders.
Under extreme of repetitive behavior as present misbehaving, reactionary planes cordon the intruder but do not engage to flare shoot out.
Aerial violation in military strategy have provoking element of mischief and tease where by enemy calculate the reaction and response of the counterpart so to scrutiny the preparedness and effective policy of engagement in future and strategically can not be taken lightly.
by Capt (R) Dr Razahaider on Dec 14, 2008 at 10:38 am
Indian ambassador should have been summoned to Foreign Office and ticked off to emphasise the possible consequences. IAF is doing this to assess PAF response.The comments posted reflect nations response but some how this government is always out of step with the people.One thing more, why did no Pakistan Blog posted the atrocity perpetrated on two innocent Muslim youths in Bombay by Hindu extremists under supervision of Indian Police???? It is pathetic indeed.
by Khurak on Dec 14, 2008 at 11:18 am
Please correct the name as shown now.Thanks.
by Khuram on Dec 14, 2008 at 11:19 am
A little correction to the post, the incident took place in broad daylight (around mid-day) which again makes the excuse of an inadvertent incursion sound absurd.
The news was let out to the media late in the night (around 12:40 am). That too by PAF sources. I’m afraid it indicates the widening gulf between the government and the Pakistani armed forces.
by Ammar Faheem on Dec 14, 2008 at 11:25 am
it seems that india is in full mood of a war and they send their jet fighters to observe the preparedness of pakistan army.
pakistan is looking more vulnerable, weak and apologistic than ever.i am afraid that if pakistan govt remained oplogistic we shall have to face another war.
by dr.jawwadkhan on Dec 14, 2008 at 12:23 pm
India is so determined to have this war.The case has been built up already usual propoganda MUMBAI ATTACKS and India does not need to legitimate any war.They have approval stamps of Condaleeza Rice,and George bush.
We are not intimidated.WE ARE FACING THE THREAT FOR SO LONG LET US FACE IT.
Another Treaty over Kashmir to be signed India does not have to go to war FOR A PEACE TREATY.
by farrah, k.raja on Dec 14, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Everyone will fight this war in Pakistan,Zardari and beautiful Madam should be in the front line.I hope madam has Ncc training she would look even more beautiful in soldier armer and AK 47.Mr.Mukhdoom will do for press conferences.
by farrah, k.raja on Dec 14, 2008 at 12:50 pm
i will not be surprized if in the future they drop a bomb or so on lahore and the only thing the gov will do is condem it. and even then if the people didn’t came on the streets , we will not be worhty of calling our self’s a nation
by Malik AMAN on Dec 14, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Have ya listen Brown-Z speech from ISB there Z said that this air incursion was technical incursion when planes turned they touch our soil.He said sumthin like that
We cannot understand the world until we appreciate that most leaders are traitors and that mankind is victim of a diabolical conspiracy on an unspeakable scale. It’s time we stopped fighting each other and addressed the real enemy.
by guYasir on Dec 14, 2008 at 3:01 pm
An Indian visitor at my blog thinks India has won all 3 wars… LoL..
http://ammar360.com/2008/12/14/indian-fighter-jets-violate-pakistani-air-space/
And I went to a few Indian forums today. Cant believe the level of hatred they’re brewing, and some defense discussions talking about what time of the year would be feasible for an attack on Pakistan…
Pakistani Bloggers and internet community needs to ACT NOW!
by Ammar Faheem on Dec 14, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Mr ammar Faheem , it the truth that india won all three wars with Pakistan. Please update yourself and accept the failure
by tauseef on Dec 14, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Mr. Tauseef. I am not ready to “update” myself on information that you want me to update myself with.
We lost in 1971, alright. But you don’t want me to accept Pakistan’s defeat in 1965 and 1999? Or do you? Kindly update yourself =)
by Ammar Faheem on Dec 14, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Mr Ammar, For kargal war you can search on internet or read the book of Col. Ashfaq named ‘Gentelman Astagfurulah’ or read any literature. Pakistan is defeated very hardly in that war.
similarly in 1965 , we attcked on kashmir and get some initial success but when india attack on Lahore Borber, sind border etc. We lost in all the border and it forced us to compromise. You can also get this information from book, internet or some army personal.
Sorry Ammar, we cant change the reality.
by tauseef on Dec 14, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Ammar, i appriciate your feelings and may this happen.
by tauseef on Dec 14, 2008 at 4:13 pm
The democracy has got 2 face one is right other is left both are contrived to controlled the public debate.
Similarly wars which also contrived to controlled the whole world by one-world gov
The ongoing war is war for world hegemony esp in oil-industry west wanna take control of whole-world oil demand&supply in their hands from Arabs through their political and economic policies.
Israeli Cabala is behind UK/US/EU/UN and they wanna complete destruction of the whole world except their own and wanna rule from Jerusalem so they also wanna destroy Pakistan as soon as possible as they destroy our economy[world economy also affected from recent recession] and insist us to take loan from IMF and accept their demands if not then India will do the rest for ‘em.
The “Jew of the Cabala” is the central banker[Rothschild] his allies and minions. The average Jew doesn’t know anything about this plan. However, he is wrong to assume that because he is unaware, it doesn’t exist. He is wrong to assume he won’t some day be blamed for it. All groups and religions have been subverted. Whether Communist or Zionist, many Jews have been duped and manipulated by organized Jewry.
The average Jew is as much responsible for the NWO as the average American is responsible for the war in Iraq. However we all must take exception when our religion or nations are appropriated for evil.
by guYasir on Dec 14, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Mr Yasir, you give the whole war as Oil-game. Can you please tell me the 2 biggest oil producer countary in the world?
by tauseef on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:17 pm
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922041.html
by guYasir on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Thanks yasir,
The purpose is to tell the US comes in the biggest oil producer in the world and its the effort of the US for explore the oil reserve in Arab countaries. On the basis of which arab countaries become rich. If american leave that area then Muslims can not able to handle that oil reserve.
I dont think US doing the war for Oil.
by tauseef on Dec 14, 2008 at 5:43 pm
In wars ,we neither win ,nor loose.We defend ourselves.
We have not given any territory to the enemy,that is a success and that is what defence is about.If we are attacked
we will respond,this response is important.If we were not capable of response ,we would have been taken over long time ago.
On territory issue I know Bangla desh would be brought up.
Bangladesh was given up because majority of the people wanted to be independent .with wars we can defend a territory maybe but we can never in people.
Like Jammu Kashmir,territory is under Indian government but people are not won over yet.
by farrah, k.raja on Dec 14, 2008 at 6:23 pm
tauseef
How cum USA turn biggest oil producer dis is the Land of last and final and our beloved Prophet Mohammed(SAW) which holds 35% of world oil resources.
According to infoplease USA comes at #3 but can be #1 in his exploring the oil reserve in various country including Saudi Arabia but with her own monopoly dis is diff debate.
Well when Osama went back to saudia in 1991 after vanishing soviets. He saw US army in saudi borders due to gulf-war so King gave order to US to protect saudia from incursions.
So Osama got angry He said to King kick the US army from Saudi borders We can defend our country well as we defeated soviets and can handle oil exploration as well and why not Osama.org has got biggest construction company in saudia. [I too one holds in Pak]They can explore but King didn’t hear him and He went back Afghanistan and later Sudan where He invested/opened chemical factory but US bombarded it and claimed that it was a WMDs factory as usual.
Well He must be angry he invested his money in that factory for profit but US completely destroyed it and later he came back Afghanistan and started thinking to give a good lesson to USA
US freeze his accounts and ostracized his nationality of Saudia and King also went against him.
Well He gave fatwa in 1996 and in 1998 Monica lover Clinton bombarded Torah-Borah mountains which was enuff to produce a 9/11 in USA rest you know or ill define later right now going for sum refreshment with Tea
by guYasir on Dec 14, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Whole of Iraq is split open from human bodies to roads but
KURD area is secure safe and almost independednt exporting oil.
Soon Kurdistan will be a new country.Iraq is a new Israel only the war is between Shiat and Sunni dominance.
Iran is already taking control and Saudi Arabia I do not know how they feel.
USA stopped Turkey to take over Kurd area .It was about oil.
We are alone and we have to fight.
by farrah, k.raja on Dec 14, 2008 at 8:15 pm
A discussion has generated with Mr.Tauseef’s comment and ably responded by Mr.Ammar Faheem and Madam Farah K Raja.I have copied these comments from an Indian newspapers.You may find interesting.The link is http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/3805464.cms
“Pat Simpson,Canada,says:I think Indian armed forces have lost sense of judgment. You are dealing with nuclear capable opponent. Pakistan is no pushover and will have no second thoughts in using nuclear weapons. Indian armed forces took more than 60 hours to nail down few terrorists and it took NSG more than 12 hours to reach Mumbai. India needs to get its act together and wake up. You should purge this thought of “surgical strikes”.
[8 Dec, 2008 0507hrs IST]
Mr. Tauseef this is not the time to create unnecessary controversy but show unity if you are a Pakistani citizen.Thank you.
by Khuram on Dec 14, 2008 at 8:25 pm
India must know Pakistan people do not live in a bubble of security ,safety and secularism.
We live in a defence line of Muslim country.We are ready for any war from USA to India.We are not Iraqis,we are not Afghanis,we are Pakistan.
From a man to a child to a woman we are so desperate to fight this non-sense called war.Let the ginnie get out of bottle we are so fed up to live in expectation of worst that now we think ,OK ,this is it,let it be.
by farrah, k.raja on Dec 14, 2008 at 8:32 pm
This is a problem we face as a nation. Are we 'defeatists' by default?? This is a point in time where are national zeal and pride should be high! Instead, you're telling me to accept that we lost wars we actually won? Don't forget India always clinches a deal when its losing thanks to our lousy government. Same happened in 1965, the same in 1999! The Indian Military could never defeat us in these two wars. And THAT is exactly what my point is!
by Ammar Faheem on Dec 14, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I believe in standing behind our defense forces at this hour. And there are several resources that point towards our success as well. One off books and columns are also available on the other side of the border.
POINT: We CAN beat them big time!
by Ammar Faheem on Dec 14, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Khurram
Thanks for link.I have read the comments.
by farrah, k.raja on Dec 14, 2008 at 9:26 pm
yes farrah we’ve to fight against tyranny. Even though im against the war but we’ve been divided in division and sub-divisions which is a rotten fruit of Hegelian trap brought 2u by Britishers 200 yrs back
While Islam talk about to live 2gether under the banner of last and final Divine book as Torah Jews claim at nkusa.org that Muslims were pretty good Host of us better than any other we spent in our diaspora and Israel should cum back b4 its 1967 position.
So war has been impose on us in the lust for Greater Israel Is-real? no its contrived for world domination no one can stop this war there’s Hadith which says bloodshed bloodshed and bloodshed and it is occurring almost every part of the world without bloodshed no revolution. War is another name of social change or political change as US yell for giving freedom and democracy to Iraqis and Afghanies through barbarians-bombardment while they supported 9 yrs dictatorship in Pakistan and Egypt Mubarak ho pakistanio tum ko democracy sadr samaith lo usa comes up with another hoax in shape of Zardari. US wanna clean pak or terrorists A2Z while terrorists wanna clean US A2Z and our president wanna clean pak khazana A2Z
by guYasir on Dec 14, 2008 at 9:33 pm
farrah ya should also visit and read articles at http://www.khilafah.com and express ur comments there as well. I do U2
by guYasir on Dec 14, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Mr. Khurram, that is exactly what we need to do as a nation. Stand united and consider it our obligation to try and lift our national pride and self-esteem to higher levels.
No matter what the government says or does, it is the people who matter and who can really make a difference.
I believe in “us” – let us all believe in each other!
by Ammar Faheem on Dec 14, 2008 at 9:55 pm
the best way to stop this kind of stupidness is to attack on indian planes and took the down within pakistani territory so that we have a prove to show the world
by usman on Dec 14, 2008 at 10:56 pm
taking down planes that is exactly what India intends to do,to provoke us.
We are not walking in their trap.Our response it seems will be calculated and well thought.That is what we need.
As a nuclear state our military has shown far more maturity in handling the situation and threats.
We are not hesitant but we are causious.
by farrah, k.raja on Dec 14, 2008 at 11:10 pm
India like habitual wrongdoer again acted to express her attitude as brainteaser hence clearing the sensitive issue of violation by absurd means of technicalities and forgiveness’.
One may logically hold the flaring of fire if such technical issues are put as excuses since aerial encounters with palliative toppling has no second option but full blown war.
Aerial violation in military strategy have provoking element of mischief and tease where by enemy calculate the reaction and response of the counterpart so to scrutiny the preparedness and effective policy of engagement in future and strategically can not be taken lightly.
Such inadvertent technical mistakes are not at all a navigation failure nor are they a matter of sovereign threat in terms of violation.
There is always a span of 15 to 20 km between two no fly zones.
This span as safe zone is utilized for reactionary purposes so to react through aerial interception and engagement which require 3 to 5 minutes in dire need.
However during era of escalation and reservation between countries such iatrogenic violations are always perceived as suspicious and contagious.
Aircrafts and fighter planes do crosses such demarcations inadvertently but interceptions via radar and aerial response reception the intruders.
Under extreme of repetitive behavior as present misbehaving, normal move of engagement is that, the reactionary planes cordon the intruder but do not engage to flare shoot out.
In aerial engagements any intruder approaching the undesired area of strategical importance is always warned and lighted to abstain and if resultant answer does not satisfy or rules out intention, shoot at sight resolve the issue.
In the light of current scenario as rift and blame such violation from any sight, scene or sea can create an unwanted embezzlement and catastrophic impeachment since rivals have innate and inborn capacity to disown each other, the day they were registered as nation on the surface of globe.
Here is the point to understand by seasonal rivals.
India should realize the threat of monkey business.
We do not need order so to alert our eagles, lions of desert and whales.
Hunting is our hobby and flight is our routine.
Our eagles are always on their swift flight to prey the target and scavenge the dirt from our marked domain of interest.
Thrash! One more funny business of India on behest and behalf would be treated as punishable.
India should abstain and avoid the pleasure of securing the intent by simply placing the placebo of inadvertency.
Accidents are the most common catastrophe of recklessness and people who jeopardize standing operative procedures are exposed and vulnerable to accidental injury as well.
Though we admit and regard the plea of inadvertency and pardon but please don’t make it a habit.
Pakistan Zinda baad
by Capt (R) Dr Razahaider on Dec 14, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I must admit … that last post was Ineligible. I do hope Capt (R) Dr Razahaider you werent incharge of internal communications in our armed forces.
Anyhoo, on to the business at hand. Its very easy to cry havok and let loose the dogs of war, but seriously think about it.
The economy is in shambles, the government can barely afford to run itself. What do you think a full blown war with India will result in? Quite obvious really.
Asides from that the sheer scale of the indian military dwarves ours, if you put it down to a battle of attrition then the greater numbers have the advantage.
I’m not one for illogical embellishment of our eagles, whales,lions of deserts, hippopotamus, giraffe or even jelly fish! Heck, you can bring the entire National Geographic Channel repertoire for all I care.
The sad fact is lives will be lost, families will be devastated and our country in shambles.
This isnt a game of cricket, no one will ‘thrash’ anyone, blood and pain will be resultant on both sides.
Dont harbour any illusions about it.
My only consolation is that India in all likelihood, will not war us. They are aware of the ramifications to their own economy and the regional balance of power.
by Teimoor on Dec 14, 2008 at 11:57 pm
A2Z I mean Asif Zardari will divided pakistan furthermore like his father-in-law who did it in 1971
There’s a task from Cabala to kill everybody who takes name of One God/Allah till 2012.
And whole pak was created in the name of one God its diff that we are only nominal-muslims due to globalization
UK/US controlling both india and pak and pak army and gov both are in their controlled so they cant make a self-decision which could be crucial point for pak public while there’s no national cohesion in pak.
We must be fearless in confronting the cabal. Its power is built on lies. Evil is unreal. It is the absence of Good, a kind of obsessive envy. Sick and unwholesome, it resembles a dilapidated shed. Kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will collapse!
by guYasir on Dec 15, 2008 at 12:21 am
kudos to PAF for the quick response. they shudve lit up the indian aircraft with missiles and let them crash in our territory and claim them as war trophies. if its a fight india wants, its a fight india will get…
by Imran on Dec 15, 2008 at 12:29 am
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Dr Raza
Thank you and keep us posted we need your prospective and openion.
by farrah, k.raja on Dec 15, 2008 at 4:28 am
Sovereignty! Hahaha! What about the western front! This is the dance of the Bakra. The media in Pakistan seem to have gone bezerk as they were during Bangladesh and Kargil debacles.
by readinglord on Dec 15, 2008 at 4:37 am
Ha ha. Terrorist state is shivering and trying to take the moral high ground. Frauds.
by vik on Dec 15, 2008 at 4:49 am
u 2 above must be from india and tryin to put fire on oil as usual according 2 ur habits which was appear in British rule. u r a lackeys of Israel and do touch their feet its true we are small country in front of ya and sum debacle occurs from us but just becuz our leaders mis-handling and ur feeders means Israel with US helped came and did bargain on our leaders and the matter got resolved for a few yrs.
Well there’s last and final fight gonna go with u cowards if we unleash our Al-Qaeda guys aka freedom-fighters towards ya then ur fiasco time will start and ur dream of becoming world sole-shoe-super-power will remain in Abyss.
by guYasir on Dec 15, 2008 at 9:50 am
Dear Pakistani friends are very eager for war with Inida, but I still can’t decipher, How will Pakistani state finance this war with Inida?
1) Take Loan from IMF or World Bank for waging a war
against india.
2) Visit friendly countries like China, Saudi Arabia etc.
and make a request for a short term high interest loan to
finance this short term high risk exigency.
3) Use its own forex reserves that are at a meagre
$3billions(ohh $7.6 billion from IMF comes with
stringent conditions). Will IMF chief allow this
operation ? The GHQ needs an update from IMF head quarter
before waging a war with India.
Any other ways to finance this war please kindly
elucidate.
by Vijiith.Chaterjii on Dec 15, 2008 at 7:54 pm
@ Shoaib Hashmi
Yes, you are right. It was mentioned at ARY OneWorld that the fighters were “remote-controlled”… but there has been no confirmation/denail of this…
______________________________________
Friends, not to worry…
We desire peace, but we ain’t gonna sit and whine about it all day… Though Dr. Samar Mubarakmand made wonderful clearances that Pakistan’s missiles are also capable, D.r Qadeer Khan a week ago on Waqt TV and The Nation made it very clear that “The day Pakistan tested its missile (Ghauri), the Indian Air Chief Marshal told his underdog: “Today, the Pakistani airforce has superceded us”"
Furthermore, according to Dr. A.Q. Khan:
“Ghauri missiles can reach New Delhi in exactly 5 mins. or less (no more than that)” Faster than the Indians!!
Our aerospace engineers have meausured precise distances of Indian city w.r.t. Islamabad. And all can be easily reached. All coordinates are set.
I’d like to mention a typical statement here:
“Panga nai laynay ka!! Bhari paray ga!!”
by Zaki Khalid on Dec 15, 2008 at 8:04 pm
u don’t need money to win a war u need the people and a thing called jazba aaa shadat which u indian a holes will never understand
by Malik AMAN on Dec 15, 2008 at 9:01 pm
You indians are the ones wanting a fight; you warmongerers. It was your media who was creating up attack plans even before you caught the terrorists. I am by all means against terrorism; but the truth is; you couldnt operate in your own city dudes; you are talking about surgical strikes in Pakistan!!! What a serious waste of humanity you people are. Go ahead and have wet dreams of a broken Pakistan…
Long Live Pakistan
YA ALI MADAD
by Imran on Dec 15, 2008 at 10:22 pm
@V Chuttarjiii
I Know V for Vendetta nowadays and you are the culprits of the earth since ya created East India Company in corporation with your chum UK
You’v done good planning with your buddy an identical Israel Is-real? nah but contrived by U. You’re the inventor of chess game and world is like a chess game aka Game Theory and ya do play good chess better than us while we play chest game, and you turn our youth debauchers via ur media esp Bollywood aka Hollywood.
You have also close financial doors through ur chess boards but we dont need money dis is our Leaders who need Money and Honey we can defend our country by giving blood at our soil
we arent ur friends Punjabies can be ur friends whom I call KaKa and you Indians are product of UK= U-KaKa we ain’t gotcha, dont cum at our blogs no espionage allow go to rediff and give comments there.
by guYasir on Dec 15, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Updated with Sum Updates [Encore]
This freedom of speech of Mine is for All Indians Local and Abroad
I Know V for Vendetta nowadays and you are the culprits of the earth since ya created East India Company in corporation with your chum UK.
You’ve done good planning with your buddy an identical Israel Is-real? nah but Orchestrated by U/UK. You’re the inventor of chess game and world is like a [chess game] aka “game theory” and ya do play good chess better than us while we play [chest game] and you led our youth astray thru your ashtray means media notoriously Bollywood aka Hollywood and womanize*+ aka feminism which is a gift/gulag for any woman.
You have also close financial doors through ur chess boards or in other words you put us on IMF begging
IMF= [International Mother Fucker]
But we dont need money dis is our [lucifer-lover-leaders] who need Money and Honey we can defend our country by giving blood at our soil…
We aren’t ur friends Punjabies/Bhutto can be ur friends whom I call KaKa and you Indians and our Bhutto are products of UK= U-KaKa we ain’t gotcha, dont cum at our blogs no espionage allow go to rediff and give comments there.
I passed my comment at rediff last month where I wrote that. Democracy is a “ruse” for all of those who are “rubes” and India gotcha largest democracy in the world means largest Rubes……………………………………………….
And they blocked my comments means invisible. Is dis largest democracy? nah but dis is your illusionary-illuminism which lead you towards Abyss.
by guYasir on Dec 16, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Cuckold-Cheney Who Orchestrated/Obama all current-cabal of terrorism and war.
by guYasir on Dec 16, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Cuckold-Cheney Who Orchestrated/Obama all current-cabal of terrorism and war and you Indians are cuckold/cockold cronies of ‘em.
by guYasir on Dec 16, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Shoot down one of them like we did in the Kargil war and they will learn their lesson.
by Ahmed Chowdhry on Dec 16, 2008 at 9:15 pm
I read some excellent PAF quotes by International observers. Good for knowing and letting others know about it:
http://luscious69.blogspot.com/
by Jimmy Jamshed on Dec 16, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Cherry and Zordari need to give up being the spokesmen of west and start doing something for Pakistan
http://www.pakistaninewspapers.info/
by nice on Dec 16, 2008 at 10:06 pm
@ chatterjii,
Dear Indian enemies are very eager to wage a war
against Pakistan, yes, you can easily decipher
1. Indins are so rich and loan-less country with
450 millions of DALITS
380 millions who have nothing to eat and wear
120 millions kids expectd to be adopted abroad
380 millions of minorities at the peril of being
exterminated.
700.000 army deployed in Kashmir with 220 million
US$ spending minimum a month.
2. combined war Industry with allies Israel,US,UK,EU
Australia, New-zealand, getting massive warfare.
3. Using heavey fiancial lucrative investment in
regional terrorsim, collecting charity funds,
nothing much to be elucidated on the above, are
all Indians aware of the aove facts ?
by Asad Ali on Dec 21, 2008 at 11:08 pm
@ teimoor,
your comment of dec 14 @11.57 pm in response to
our Cap (R) Dr Razahaider.
please try to find some remedy for your nervousness
in my reply to your compatriot Chaterjii 8just aboe)
if does’nt calm you please coma back I have some other
medics !!
by Asad Ali on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:34 am
Thanks for making my point folks. There is a saying in Hindi” Kamzor ko gussa bohot aata hai”. Pakistan as a state is very kamzor at this point of time in its history and your over the top reactions make my point more than anything. Thanks and Regards to all.
by Vijiith.Chaterjii on Dec 22, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Thanks for making my point folks. There is a saying in Hindi” Kamzor ko gussa bohot aata hai”. Pakistan as a state is very kamzor at this point of time in its history and your over the top reactions make my point more than anything. Thanks and Regards to all.
by Vijiith.Chaterjii on Dec 22, 2008 at 11:23 pm
No No No this is not a mistake. India is to intelligent to make mistakes. It was a deliberate attempt of intimidation and show of force with some intelligence gathering.
The real thing is coming soon! THE NUKES. They were simply flying into Pakistan to see how on guard the Paki’s are in the event of an actual nuclear war head crossing the border.
by roma on Dec 23, 2008 at 2:53 pm
@ chatterjii,
” kar leo dil chauurah ” khuss hojao, jab
jotay parein gay to hooss ajaiega !
( Bangla mein)
by Asad Ali on Dec 23, 2008 at 10:38 pm
As Pakistani I want to say that it is clearly violation of the international roles and it is the responsibility of our politics government do not give any response in which india knows that he is a super power the South Asia and he can attack or violate the international rules and in case war as a Muslim I and my hole nation is ready for fighting with India and we are ready to get justify the rights of indian muslims
by Sajid on Dec 26, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Pakistan. It’s about a time to take you out of the map.
by dfsdf on Dec 28, 2008 at 2:02 am
@ dfsdf
Hey there bastard, Pakistan never f****d Bharat maata! :)
Why blame us? It was China :D
by Zaki Khalid on Dec 28, 2008 at 2:59 am
@Zaki Khalid
You are wrong here Zaki, if it would have been China, Indian wouldn’t have felt it too hard :D,,, teeny weeny Chinese… you know what I mean ;)
It must be Pakistan or may be some Arabs :P
by proudpaki on Dec 28, 2008 at 4:34 am
lol @ proudpaki…
by Zaki Khalid on Dec 28, 2008 at 12:57 pm
@ dfsdf
On second thoughts, plz do take us out of the map (extend our geography) and place us ALSO over India… I always wanted to visit Goa :p
by Zaki Khalid on Dec 28, 2008 at 1:04 pm
India is warming up it’s birds. Once airborne, only Allah can save Pakistan.
by roma on Dec 29, 2008 at 12:44 pm
@Zaki Khalid,
@proud paki,
Gentlemen, dfsdf’s problem is neither Chinese
nor arabs
Its MOGHULS !! particularly The Greatest of all
Shahansha-e-Alem Auranzeb Alamgir !! who f***d
them out beyond any proportion, its the history, man !!!
by Asad Ali on Dec 29, 2008 at 9:38 pm
@roma,
keep your bird inside your……its
not really worth to panic, and don’t spread it !
let them come, don’t you run away !!
5th column !!
by Asad Ali on Dec 30, 2008 at 12:18 am
Just respect and be tolerant of one another and let others live their lives however they want no matter how disagreeable it may be to you.
Lets have a peaceful world. Not a world in pieces.
by roma on Dec 30, 2008 at 7:20 am
hey liars bastards… need i say more?
by indian on Jan 3, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Hi all,
I am an indian. All i can say is, the entire war hysteria is created by the governments (both india and pakistan), who want to take the people’s attention away from the core issue that face both the countries.
Our countries are reeling with poverty. There are people who are dying everyday of hunger. Even the basic human requirements are not being satisfied, but we all want to fight a war.
The war stories might sound poetic, but the reality is far from it. There is hardly any honor about fighting a war. Having said that I do not take any credit away from the soldiers who fight the war. They are the real heroes and not our crooked politicans.
I hope we all can find a way to peacefully coexist.
by dhruv on Jan 4, 2009 at 10:52 am
TO ALL WHO SAID IN PAKISTAN FAVOUR,START LOOKING BOTH THE COUNTRIES FUTURE AND PAST, WHERE INDIA STANDS AND WHERE PAKISTAN ,NOW ON THIS PARTICULAR DATE LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO SWAT VALLEY.
A MUSLIM CAN SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT IN INDIA BUT NOT IN PAKISTAN ,SO WHERE IS THE PEACE?
I THINK B'FORE U DO ANY GUESSING ASK WAR EXPERTS OR FIND OUT FROM INTERNET.
PAKISTAN PEOPLE LEAVE IN PROPAGANDA CREATED BY THEIR ARMY AND POLITICAL LEADER. PAKISTAN CAN NEVER WIN THIS MATCH.
EVEN F16 IS NOT CAPABLE NOW, SINCE USA STOP THEIR SPARE PARTS.THREE DAYS INDIAN WILL BE IN TOTAL AIR SUPERIORITY.
PAKISTAN ALWAYS DEPENDS ON ARSENAL FROM OUTSIDE. WHILE INDIA HAVE 60% RELIES ON ITSELF.PAKISTAN DON'T HAVE TECHNOLOGY ,B'CAS EDUCATION IS STILL POOR.
U CANN'T RELY ON CHINA, AS INDIA AND CHINA HAVE $200B BUSINESS TREATY.START LOOKING REALITY.
WHO ATTACKED WHO LAST 3 WARS. WHO WIN WHO LOST.
INDIAN FORCES ARE BETTER NOW IN COMBAT WAR,EVEN USA SENDS THEIR TROOPS TO INDIAN EASTERN BORDER TO TAKE TRAINING IN GORILLA WAR. WELL AFTER 25 YEARS ON EXPERIENCE WITH FIGHTING TERRORISM.
FUTURE TO PAKISTAN IS IN DARK , U NEED NAWAZ SHARIFF FOR BETTER FUTURE.AGAIN WAR IS NOT SOLUTION. KICK OUT ALL TERR. AND U WILL BE IN GOOD SHAPE.
by vnnk522 on Mar 14, 2009 at 8:01 am
I want to share my feelings here after reading the statement of Mad Mani Shankar, in which he said "india is capibile to take control over pakistan in just Three Weeks".
There is no shortage of Mad and foolish indians as "Mani Shankar", Mental "Deepak Kapoor" and now the current Indian Army Cheif. They all have lost their brain that's why, they are saying like this. Reality is very tough for them and for all indians that pakistan is a nucler state and no one can dare to attack pakistan. Actually these kind of mental indian are enimies of teir own country india, they want to destroy the india because no country bear the war and the whole world know very well the poverty situation in india. In recent past several times indian forces tried to attack pakistan but unable to fullfill their desire after knowing the militay capbilities of pakistani forces.
in 1965 war, PAF gained air superiority over IAF
by Naveed Ahmed on Oct 23, 2010 at 2:01 am