Guest post by temporal from Baithak Blog
Speaking of the former rickshaw and truck driver’s reincarnation as PakTaliban Rafia Zakaria writes in today’s News:
The hijacking and effective recasting of sharia as a populist tool meant to convert the poor into accepting violence and barbarity as emblematic of Islamic justice is a tragedy. Viewing it as such also reveals how populations who have been plagued by sense of inferiority owing to their illiteracy and poverty present fertile grounds for exploitation by groups such as Al Shabab and the Taliban. Reducing justice to a crude pantomime devoid of equity and education to an expression of un-Islamic elitism, these groups rely on the most decrepit aspects of human nature to assure their own ascendancy.
I have no love for these illiterate rascals passing off as Maulvis/Maulanas..they are an insult to real aalims.
However…
The ground reality she ignores is that after the Wali of Swat was unceremoniously hauled away Swat was left with Political Agents who could not wipe their ass off stones and pebbles (as allowed and sanctioned by a certain body of hadiths…tayammoom…
That was circa Field Marshall Ayub…
So what happened to delivery of justice since then?
Zilch, nada, nothing.
As witnessed last year when ordinary non-gun carrying folks got pissed odd at the absence of rule of law in Karachi and Lahore, who set thieves on fire…the climate was CREATED by the absence of rule of law whereby these uncouth, unkempt, illiterate bearded young men passed of as ShariaKeepers …. we witnessed this in Swat and Fata and other areas where rule of law is away on extended Umrah or Pilgrimage to some distant shores.
Ordinary folks are pissed off and are willing to extend their loyalty to anyone who can restore a semblance of law under any guise.
The nuclear armed Pakistani Army under Kiyani has failed to grasp this. They can win over the people if they restore law and order…even if it be Sharia… as it used to be in that region under the deposed Wali.
Instead, they are betting on bullets to win over.
Pakistan loses.
And even if by along shot if Kayani wins, his army would lose a country.
Comments
37 responses to “Rafia Zakaria: Swat, Somalia and Sharia”
@Temporal
1. Define shariah??
2. What element of Shariah you see in beheadings and banning education for women?
3. Those who support these terrorists, why don't they implement there ideas over their own house-hold members? How many of them have taken their daughters off their schools?
– You prescribe something to be implemented over others that you yourself wouldn't like to be imposed over yourself or your own family.
…Go get some professional psychiatric help!
Has the moderator gone through the contents before approving this post? Please re-read and remove the objectionable parts.
I do not get any point ,apart from anti Taliban,anti Islam and anti Pak army???and abusive language.
Do these posts actually go through an approval process? Someones been sleeping on the job it seems.
@ Zakaria, there is one anti-Pakistani zinonist loyal
of newsweek, there is another one on Washington post
many soldouts hired by Zinonist Neocons, Rafia Zakaria's
case is an agricultural problem, animal husbandry's
regular case, a cow delivers a calf, but a deformed one
what do you do ? the problem is not temporal ?
the farmer is in trouble, the calf has many deformations,
just go through rafia's US regulated anti-Islamic load.
I do believe in Allah mian ki cow !!!
What is shariah?
Our PM Gilani said that if some one can solve the problems of Pakistan, then he should come forward.OK Dear PM I'm coming, but it'll hurt ur secular system.
Pakistan has two main problems, the capitalist system and corrupt and cowered leadership.
Islamic political system is known as Khilafah which means "rule of Allah" becuz sovereignty belongs to Allah(SWT) Only and no one else on the earth like current secular system in which democracy which means rule of the people or sovereignty of people. its kufr
After the establishment of the Khilafah, Koran will replace the current secular constitution with a new constitution based on Quran and Sunnah. In this new constitution Allah and his Messenger's (SAAW) commands will not require the approval of the majority to become the law of the land.
All subjugative taxes including GST, with-holding tax and toll tax will be abolished. Oil, gas, electricity and all the natural resources will be declared public property and every citizen of the state will get them on its cost-price
http://www.hizb-ut-tahrir.info/info/english.php/c…
I also recommend ye to listen Dr.Israr Ahmed speeches on Sharia and other in't isuues at
http://www.tanzeem.org
Note: He's my uncle it doesn't mean I'm with him rather the way he preaches the Koran and Shariah its worth listening.
He also appears at Peace TV which shows His capability/credibility. Only Paki scholar who appears on Peace.tv
Peace be at s/he who follow the last Guidance.
Allah Hafiz
the same obnoxious non sense.
on one side behading,burning schools and use of brutal force.
on other side intese desire for "NANGA NACH" and disgustingness for shariyah.
inspite of horrible methodlogy i think "tehreek e taliban" is quite natural. why????
because pakistani as a nation is a corrupt nation.
can any one of us say that he/she is not an opportunist and selfish.
our political affiliation is just like religious belief.i.e my leader is right no matter what…
our leaders see one thing HALAL for them selves and HARAM for others.
every one is interested in maintaing the status coup.
we are divided by any definition possible. ethnic,linguistic,provincial,religious,class and now ideology.
political intellect is zero.
civic sense is zero.
patriotism is paradoxical.
and RESULT……we all know that. we have a complete recepie of a disastor.
lawlessness, sky mounting dearth, unemployement, deteriorating well stablished businesses, failing institutions ,govt departments and economy and country.
it seems that no one is ready for rule of law, real democracy with it's true essence, merit, honesty,sincerity and hard work.
in these circumstances nature has it rule "there is no place for incompetent people who can not run"
so….new group of people appeared to replace these incompetent and corrupt group of politicians.
but why extremists????
because moderates are "enlightened" enough to see the reality on ground.
offending Abu Hurairah(RA)?
wow another attempt by a anti-Sunni sect. great going
I fail to understand how this post is anti-Islamic or anti-Pakistan. Sheesh.
the question is '' what should be done ? '' any ideas ? can everyone who has responded so far give a suggestion each please ?
@guyasir!
agreed with the notion that capatilist democracy is a curse upon humanity.
but i am not sure about khilafat.the ara of RASOOL ULLAH (saaw) and Sahaba e kiram (rata) was quite different from the modern time.arabian society was strictly divided into tribes.the tribal leaders and other dignitaries chose the khalifa at that time.also the population was not like today.most of people live in small cities and villages.
so khilafat system was the best option at that time.
for me the iranian system is the perfect answer of the question regarding the islamic society of the modern age.where supreme islamic leader only have obligation to defend the ideology and check on monkeys of secularism and govt run by elected politicians.
Rabayl, regardless of it's anti Islamic or not, the guy(the author) offended Abu Hurairah(RA)[if you know who is he and what is his status for Muslims then you might understand what I meant..till then have fun].
Offcourse the author will not tolerate such tone if someone uses for his beloved ones like parents or other family members since we practice friends on other disposals. We became narrow-minded if someone abuse our own pals. How Ironic is that.
dr jk
aap ki baat sahi hai but sunni-muslims wont accept it and will demand Shariah/khilafat esp Talibans who are anti-Iranians and NWFP system is tribal so they believe the same system which was in Prophet and his cohorts times. in my view;
Actually Couple of things can change the scenario.
1.Theo-democracy
2.clean monetary system from USury/Interest.
Islam will prevail globally not on Arab soil, as ye can see its a fastest growing religion after Christianity soon it gonna surpass Christianity.
And this is a global age aka globalization so Islam will prevail in that way and Muslims are around 1.5 billions in the world the only thing is lacking is the Islamic system which cannot be implemented by us but when Allah wants and it will lead us toward Armageddon which had been written in Bible/Torah/Koran even Protocols.
We’ve been Quarantined within the ‘matter’ of the earth and remember Money and Honey is the ‘matter’ of the Earth.
I’ve wrote about Money and Honey that Roths-childs are Money and Rimming is their Honey. Isn’t it? It seems so. Ka….oops
In other words, our civilization is leaderless and committed to its own destruction.This is portrayed as "progress" which it is for the money-makers.
In conclusion, The world cannot be saved by an acts of Allah rather by an acts of men. We must learn God-Plan and implement them into our lives and then bring them into the world.The cost of rejecting Allah is to become slaves of very bad men.(Roths-childs)
@ Zardari, Gillani, Qureshi, Sherry, Rehman Malik,
and all other "Shahida'n de tabbar" with their
khanqah-e-mu'tazzilah, Garhi Khudah Baksh, and
Taseer's vineyards of Punjab's Governor house,
PTV's hijrah alcoholic suffi "Tajzia-nigars,
with some Lollywood's gumashtays are part
of US state department of Neocons, Takfiri & Tahriki
dajjals heritage, forgotten delibaretly by Zakarias.
She talks about somalia, sharia and swat but ignores
IRAQI GENOCIDE OF 1.5 MILLIONS OF CIVILIANS BY US,
GAZA GENOCIDE OF 1600 (500 CHILDREN)5000 WOUNDED by
US SPONSORED NAZI PIGS ISRAELIS, BURNED WITH PHOSPHOR
CHEMICAL BOMBS ??
AND 687.000 AFGHANIS EXTERMINATED BY US ARMY ?
AND THE DRONES TO EXTERMINATE FATA'S AND NWFP'S
CHILDREN AND WOMEN ? ARE THESE NOT REALITIES AND
FAIT ACCOMPLIS ??? SHAME ON YOU ZAKARIAS.
Please don't appear again, you stink blood !!
who is this feminist, abysmally ignorant, westernized jerk Rafia? Taliban are the most religious ppl alive on earth apart from their lack of scientific knowledge which should have been there anyways. Uncircumcized suicide bombers and school closing-mongers are indian agents which requires no further evidence. Does anyone moderate these atheistic, ignorant ramblings by brainless elites?
@ this is called " coup de grace "
my charge sheet,
followed by execution,
can't we continue like this ? Ladies & Gentlemen,
all of them in line !!!
The Economic Rape of America – Chapter One
WHAT IS MONEY?
http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/rape1.shtml
Note: it is very extensive material to read contain 12 chapters but try to read it anyway to get the bigger pic of the Money which they spin out of nothing in order to entrapped us in their web of debt.How? read from above link
i just noticed:
"ince we practice friends on other disposals. "
should be read as:
"since we practice freedom on other disposals."
Awab I register my protest on blasphemous statement made by Temporal which is given below:
that are NOT attributed to renta-hadith Cat Lover otherwise known as abu Hureira)
if your blog is representing shia sect then it should be said quite boldly rather making lame and coward attempts in disguise of freedom. A blogger of your caliber doesn't suit to make such mistakes.
regrards
@Adnan – I did read the post when I initially posted and admittedly the specific statement I did not find it as averse as you portray it, but I did pass on the request to temporal and he has volunteered to remove the offending line – I hope it helps.
@azhar aslam!
for me the answer is revolution.
why?….because pakistan is ruled by specific class comprises on:
army
feudal
corrupt and opportunist politicians
Beurocrites
this elite class made sure that pakistan will not become a progressive and democratic republic.
pakistan is like highly profitable business for them and they are not ready to disclaim for this lucrative income.
So what we do to take our birth right……we have to take it by force
Yes the answer is revolution
1) Revolution with defense of Islamic ideology from monkeys of secularism
2) institution building
3) democracy with checks ( a lot of checks)
4) system
5) person who can run the system
6) merit, merit and merit as “worth not birth should rule the mankind”
The fact is author could have used better language and could have drawn similarities between Somalia and Swat.Which I do not find anyway?
I am sure Dr.Awab and Temporal are sure the problem in Swat is not Talibaan nor Shariat?
It is USA arms presence and lawless people from around the world particularly India,Iran as well .
India specifically because they want to have better control or ties with Afghanistan.
On top of it their are fractions within Talibaan.
Now whole of this is political issue ,tug of unjustified war for establishing military and strategic power over this region,directly by USA and many are victims some are oppertunists.Where does Shariat comes into all of this?
There is no need to become American by using typical slang ,how people wipe their a**.It does not show any modernity or awareness.
At least Pakistanis should not start blame game.
We must come up with maturity and matter of teh fact is we are concerned for all the loss of lives be it Pak army,Civilian or Talibaan.
Now US wants to end Karzai government or help in re-election so I believe their will be more casualities.
The solution is Talibaan ,USA ,Pakistan and NWFP leaders have to draft a plan how to save further anarchy.
We have to protest not only against Talibaan but against USA as well.
We do not protest against Talibaan because of Shariat,we protest against their Barbic behaviour which is not acceptable.
Also please this is not a conflict between Shiat or Sunni?
People provocation ,conflicts and controversy we do not need it.
We need comments,debates and solutions.
I sound like a granny now.
Awab, it will not be offending if it was being used for a friend like but while you know the historical background of the personality then it doesn't sound appropriate to refer him like that. Thanks to listen my voice and I thank temporal as well.
Jazakum Allah khair.
dr jawwad khan
revolution is in the air.I am surprised I saw at least twenty books on Persia,not Iran Persia.Also note a book on Shah of Shah,also one on Turkish revolution at the times of Kamal and Revolution of the Tsars.
I am surprised within a month all book stores are crowded by these books.Tsars could be aiming at China,and rest are aiming at Islamic wrold,great Shah of Shah of Persia and Kamal Atta Turk who brought Secularism.
Patriotism,nationalism and Nation building is at the rise around the world and so is religion and faith.
I am taken aback this is what we are considering ,are we driven into this situation,I hate to think we are thinking and acting as West wants us to think?
@farrah k raja!
i believe only in the planning of ALLAH(swt) not the west.last time usa intervened in the iran and toppled an elected government and that adventure resulted on revolution.
thats true that we do play in the hands of the west and cia because we do not have a genuine,sincere and visionary leadership.
but rest assured zionist and west/usa can not control every thing infact most of the time things gone beyond their control and resulted in backlash.
dr jk. backlash se yaad aya k
Zionists are antichrist and they are deliberately fulfilling prophecy of their messiah kana-dajjal.
if we are seekin revolution means we are seekin wars becuz there's no revolutions without wars / war is another name of social change or political change which means ye've to go for wars.
2009 which is a year of recession in other words economic war towards Arab-countries esp Iran which will eventually lead us towards a civil war.
in 2010 many metropolitan cities of the world will be uninhabited like damascus, san francisco etc due to ice-melting and sea level gettin up
Satanic apocalyptic-agenda is on its way to get rid of those souls who acknowledge Allah Agenda.
In short, negative polarity and selfishness is rampant which is a cause of our curse from our very own hands.
Are you ready to die for Allah and your belief in a positive change for the world or are you all a bunch of cowards in the hands of the devil, just talking and talking with no sense of reality?
Get your swords and get ready to fight to defend your faith or perish…This is a war against Satan so please wake up b4 its 2 late and we may die like a Pharaoh.
WE'RE LIVING IN A SATANIC PRISON BUILT BY THE JESUITS AND FINANCED BY THE ZIONIST.
THE END
@ guYasir,
not necessarily, revolution can be brought, not only
with the classical image of " bloody " It can also be
brought under :
1. rule of law and their implementation
Justice be done in the shortest possible time,
2. Administration to function honestly,
3. Legislation, shura run democratically with free will,
but with national interest and national security
The three Pillars of our State, the modern free world
is following the above.Islamic model,historically
practiced untill the last Rashideen RA.
Now, when these three pillars become gansters,
traitors, and corrupt, the cleaning is imperative,
how to clean is our problem, try them, judge them
and punish them, this process is called revolution,
a. try them, if found guilty, punish them.
b. armed takeover and cleaning process (elimination)
c. popular uprising, strong unhappy opinion, campaign,
d. ask them to resign and new elections.
which four of the above do you think, we should start
with, and then the sequence ? my pov is
C then D then A
B is very classical and unfruitfull !French revlolution
is savage and risky !one to five republics proves !
post revolutions have tremendous legislative lacunes,
They were living under conseil revolutionaire, but are
still living today under Napoleon Code!!!
@ let us consult our consensus !!
9/11 which US let it happened orchestrated by Dick in order to create reason or public opinion 2 go for wars. it was similar like Pearl-Harbor.
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/cheney_s_secrets.h…
The attacks wouldn't have had happened without deliberate failure of US army jets.The same cabal was behind these attacks who was behind Pearl-Harbor so in order to dragged US in WW2 and now WW3 and Bush deliberately stopped 9/11 investigations.
Obama is another Hoover. He has been brought up by an occult group as US president to take communism revenge in Afghanistan vanished by Mujaheddins and remember Communism isn't dead rather soviet died and Obama is a communist or he brainwashed by communists to do more in Afghanistan despite US economy is debase.
It's all theater put on for the Yokels, and remember democracy is a Ruse for all of those who are Rubes and India/US gotcha largest democracy in the world means largest Rubes…..
Thus, our problem is systemic and can't be solved while our political and cultural leaders are creatures of the system. Our focus must be on changing the system and we must vehemently deny New World Order and demand for New World System which will be based on;
1. Theo-Democracy
2. Monetary system clean from USury/Interest
The world has come to its final stage where our enemy is Satanists who are pretending to be Jews, Christians and Muslims. They are hell-bent to destroy and enslaving the mankind in their centuries old plan known as neo-feudalism aka neo-fascism aka NWO which is wrapped in portocols of the elder of zion
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-references-protocols-…
To the administrator of this blog: the article appeared in the Daily Times, not in The News, as referenced above.
Secondly, when there is no answer to the argument presented by Rafia Zakaria (whose article I've just read from the link posted above, and have no problems with her perspective), why do people resort to ad hominum attacks instead of countering the argument? That is shameful and indicates a very high level of insecurity and closed-mindedness.
And just to insulate myself from ad hominum attacks: I am not a member of the elite, but a lower-middle class urban Pakistani who was educated in public schools. And yes, I still am a proud non-believer and secularist.
because your secularism is not the pakistani secularism because you are not sincere with the diaspora the reason for this conversion is simply a intense desire for "nanga nach" rather than the quest for a way of life where learned people sit and decide.
Mr Khan, I cannot understand a word of what you've written or what it's in reference to. Are grammer and punctuation banned?
great!
now it is my grammer.
then you deserve the my favourite advice.
take the secularism along with your cheap and disgusting pride.mould it well and take it right up your ass.
Heh, it's as if you're hellbent on displaying the very mindset I described in my first comment in this thread: personal attacks without any substance or argument. I guess it's for the best that I cannot understand what you wrote.
@ Danial Burki,
please correct, you don't write grammar with " e "
where were you educated ? Sir,
I stand corrected, thanks Mr Ali.
As for my education, it was most satisfactory. 🙂
Dear Dr Sahab,
The 'Shariah' in Pakistan would be like this!
Eternal Darkness of the Unimaginative MULLAH Mind
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/eternal-…
HANAFI FIQH VERSUS SALAFIS – 1
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/02/hanafi-f…
HANAFI FIQH VERSUS SALAFIS – 2
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/02/hanafi-f…
Heresy, Apostasy & Misuse of Blasphemy Law – 1
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/heresy-a…
Heresy, Apostasy & Misuse of Blasphemy Law – 2
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/heresy-a…
Heresy, Apostasy & Misuse of Blasphemy Law – 3
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/heresy-a…
Heresy, Apostasy & Misuse of Blasphemy Law – 4
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/heresy-a…
Heresy, Apostasy & Misuse of Blasphemy Law – 5
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/heresy-a…
Here lies the so-called Muslim Ummah! – 1
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie…
Here lies the so-called Muslim Ummah! – 2
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie…
Here lies the so-called Muslim Ummah! – 3
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie…
i think that taliban is winning. they have already conquered tribal belt and sawat.it is a matter of time when they start showing their presence in panjab.
Interesting thing about Pakistani Taliban is that they are not typical Taliban. many of them never saw the madrisa.many are careless about prayers.we observed many things which we never saw before. i call these neo taliban a retaliationist. many of them are the product of war against terror.in most of the cases pakistani or american army kill their loved one and the survivors joined taliban in vengeance.
also there are some students of lal masjid. Who saw the barbaric massacre of innocent women and children and other rasikh ul aqeeda muslims.
Interestingly there are increasing numbers of panjabis in these groups especially in sawat.
i see a big element of inequities and injustices as a driving force which steered them to join taliban.
currently there are 2 forces attracting a common man in order to make a change in this country.
one is lawyer movement which comprises lawyers, civil right activist, media and some political parties.
other is Taliban. which has been defeated its enemies many miles.sawat agreement is biggest victory inspite of global pressure. it is not only the victory of taliban but also the victory of shariyat and nizam e adal.which startled many Pakistani as many of us didn't hear about nizam e adal before and flinched the secular fascists in pakistan.
secular and liberal groups are more perplexed and worried than ever. These elements are in desperate plight to win any thing on the soil of Pakistan and we are in the defining moments in the history of pakistan.
People of Pakistan in general are suspicious about this movement. Some have genuine concerns about their violent interpretation of islam. This is bolstered by the successful propaganda against Taliban with the help on national and international media.
Successful in a way that people think of lashes and beheading and lots of restrictions when they think of Taliban.
For me it is a temporary first impression because I believe that second impression is the last impression. As Taliban just got the control and when they practice the nizam e adal.hopefully this nizam e adal will be succeeded and will become able to win the hearts and mind of the people of paksitan. then Taliban will be able to present its second impression.
Taliban movement is immature right now. they will be matured when they get the control of Pakistan and more educated and skilled people will join the Taliban.
The chances of Taliban are bright as Pakistan is not in the position of winning this war.
There are many reasons which can give Taliban a triumph.
1) lack of governance
2) lack of justice
3) appalling inequities and injustices
4) social and economic decay
5) lack of trust of the people on govts
6) poverty
7) joblessness
8) dearth and dearness (even for essential commodities)
9) unchecked exploitation of the common man
10) rampant corruption and many others
we can say that pakistani Taliban are the product of a failure of the puppet governments backed by USA.
Taliban used the horror and terror for its strategy .this strategy attracts some elements of the society especially those who lead.
There are two elements in every society. One is minor,who lead and set some trends the other major, who follow. The fight for power is fought between the minor groups who lead any nation.
Unfortunately Pakistan has a worst record in producing leadership.
After quaid e azam we just produced monkey running after bananas and fighting each other. on the other hand Taliban has a sincere leadership who are ready to give their lives for their cause. This kind of sincerity we just see in our dreams.
The only way by which Taliban can be defeated is the evolution of the system which delivers the weaker and poorer class a reason for not committing suicide.
Unfortunately we do not have a time for this. When judiciary become restored when Pakistan produces a genuine and sincere leadership, when we evolve a system which protects the interest of a common man. i am afraid we are late for this. Pakistan has became a perfect factory for producing Taliban.
We do not have any other choice except to continue and support the lawyer movement and pray almighty for peace and prosperity.
May almighty save the Pakistan and people of Pakistan.