Guest blog by temporal who blogs at Baithak Blog
Earlier I had posted Who killed the Baloch leaders? by Qurat ul ain Siddiqui. More on this saga here.
This should raise alarms. Will it? This is extra-judicial killings – by state organs. The last time it happened under Benazir and Sharif Governments, the agencies got emboldened and thousands of Baluchis and Muhajirs died.
Earlier in the 70s, the same agencies were involved in what was then East Pakistan.
A fool learns from his mistakes. An idiot does not.
We seem to be bent upon endlessly repeating mistakes. Either that, or the agencies are a power unto themselves and are a state within state and cannot be controlled.
The key question to ask is – ‘who exercises control over these agencies and how effective is their control?’
The concern of our MaiBaap is not displaced. They urge effective control over this behemoth (the Agencies) as much for their benefit as for ours.
The impotency of both the civilian and military leadership to rein them in is bad omen.
I have deliberately included the Army in this equation too. I do not think the Faujis want to go and kill in Mumbai. But their impotency to control the renegades in the Agencies does not augur well for their control of the Bomb in Western minds.
Digression: you and I – the twittering generation is doomed also. We can protest, scream, shout, yell, write, update.
Meanwhile, ill-educated and uneducated armed people with beards displace the state and impose their writ.
Is there a lesson in above?
Yes, this a duel to finish. In this duel our opponent has picked up Kalashnikiovs, rocket launchers and assault weapons. They are also adept in using the media – main stream and otherwise.
The keyboard warriors stand no chance. If we want to wrest power from the upstarts, we should be prepared to go to their battlefields and fight them with all means necessary – in the fields, in the valleys and in the media.
This should not be a solitary action of us vs. them. This is not the wild west where gunmen can duel it out.
We should also put pressure on the sitting governments to allay citizen’s fears and do more to provide basic amenities – life, liberty, justice, food, shelter on an urgent basis.
It is the failure of the central and provincial governments to provide these basic amenities of life to its citizens that has turned the tide of civilian support for this misguided Taliban.
A victory on the ground will only be possible if, after the fight, the centre does not abandon them again.
Are we, the twittering chatteratis, willing to take up the challenge?
Failure to do so will mean stop shaving. And worse, bowing down to their gods.
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8 responses to “Stop Twittering – Fight or Succumb”
Track Record of Intelligence Agencies is not very good to look at but USA doesn't want Iran Gas Pipeline. Remember, India betrayed Iran under US Pressure, though India is energy starved and needs Power/Electricity to run its Industry but succumb to the US Pressure. Peace in Baluchistan would pave the way for smooth laying of Iranian Gas Pipeline which would have to be passed through Baluchistan therefore Peaceful Baluchistn is not in the US Interest till they achieve what they came here for.
ISPR was never so swift in condemning the incident which is evident in the newspapers e.g. Dawn's frontpage. If we want to understand the Terrorist Threat then we would have to go through the History of Latin America when Cold War being fought there between USA and USSR and present Terror incident are just that.
FOREIGN POLICY Indian betrayal JOHN CHERIAN
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2303/stories/20…
This could be the reason:
Preparing the Battlefield The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran.by Seymour M. Hersh July 7, 2008
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080…
The Pentagon consultant told me, “We’ve had wonderful results in the Horn of Africa with the use of surrogates and false flags—basic counterintelligence and counter-insurgency tactics. And we’re beginning to tie them in knots in Afghanistan. But the White House is going to kill the program if they use it to go after Iran. It’s one thing to engage in selective strikes and assassinations in Waziristan and another in Iran. The White House believes that one size fits all, but the legal issues surrounding extrajudicial killings in Waziristan are less of a problem because Al Qaeda and the Taliban cross the border into Afghanistan and back again, often with U.S. and NATO forces in hot pursuit. The situation is not nearly as clear in the Iranian case. All the considerations—judicial, strategic, and political—are different in Iran.”
He added, “There is huge opposition inside the intelligence community to the idea of waging a covert war inside Iran, and using Baluchis and Ahwazis as surrogates. The leaders of our Special Operations community all have remarkable physical courage, but they are less likely to voice their opposition to policy. Iran is not Waziristan.”
Click the Audio sign and [listen Seymour Hersh about US CIA Covert Action in Iran using Baluchis] with topic in the topic below:
Seymour Hersh: US Funding Al-Qaeda Linked Sunni Groups
http://www.handsoffiran.org/news/2007/abc-jundull…
That's what is brewing in Baluchistan. USA want to freeze Irani Nukes at any cost to put Saudis and Israelis both at ease. Operation was launched Negroponte [he was also involved in such activities in Latin America in 80s]
A Pakistani tribal militant group responsible for a series of deadly guerrilla raids inside Iran has been secretly encouraged and advised by American officials since 2005, U.S. and Pakistani intelligence sources tell ABC News.
The group, called Jundullah, is made up of members of the Baluchi tribe and operates out of the Baluchistan province in Pakistan, just across the border from Iran.
The agencies where behind this who the heck can think like that in this situation or the author forgot to mention that not our's but rather indian and american agencies were behind it the only reason our agencies will do this kinda thing is when they are controlled by some foriegn gov.
We have to stop balming ourseleves even if we are involed and have to find a common enemy just like what the indians did in the mumbai incident
you guys have gone nuts…
interesting point aamir
but
going beyond the puppet arguments, it still is the old song, being played before us once again
and we deaf, dumb and blind succumb to it — once again
Dear Mr Junaid, nuts or no nuts, one only put forward a theory in such confusing situations in view of total balckout of information. No offence to Late. Bugti's tragic demise but one cannot forget that Military Operation was opposed in Baluchistan and Bugti was praised by Hamid Gul, Asad Durrani, Aslam Beg and all such nincompoops whose detrimental policies i.e. Tinkering in Pakistani Politics is the cause of present mess. Dont forget that Bugti was Governor of Baluchistan during Bhutto's Government and the Third Military Operation was no doubt carried out and looked after by Military but Bugit was Governor.
Sardar Khair Bux Marri had no doubt regretted on the death of Bugti but he also questioned those who were declaring Bugti a Hero. Dont forget that Sardar Sher Baz Mazari was Bugti's relative and Bugti was very much in oppostion with the IJI in 1989 against Benazir Bhutto. IJI was formed by Hamid Gul and first government of Benazir Bhutto was dismissed at the behest of Military Generals and most of those Generals are in EX-SERVICEMEN SOCIETY.
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interesting point aamir butgoing beyond the puppet arguments, it still is the old song, being played before us once againand we deaf, dumb and blind succumb to it — once again[TEMPORAL]
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Excerpts from a Diplomatic Gathering in 80s
""The Soviet Foreign Minister, Gromyko, speaking in New Delhi on February 12, 1980 had warned that, "If Pakistan continues to serve as a puppet of imperialism in the future; it will jeopardize its existence and its integrity as an independent state." The United States, too, could in certain circumstances accept the dismemberment of Pakistan as it did in 1971. Henry Kissinger, the US Secretary of State during President Nixon's administration, had said: "In my conversation with Ambassador Jha I reiterated my constant theme that we considered Indian and American long term interests as congruent …. I emphasized that the United States did not insist that East Bengal remain part of Pakistan. On the contrary, we accepted autonomy as inevitable and independence as possible. A war was senseless; Bangladesh would come into being by the spring of 1972 if present procedures were given a chance. We differed over method, not aim."On October 7, I told WSAG meeting that if India would accept an evolutionary process, it would achieve most of its objectives with our assistance. If they would co-operate with us we could work out 90 per cent of their problems, like releasing Mujib or attaining some degree of autonomy for Bangladesh, and these steps would lead eventually to their getting it all." With the return of a Republican administration and keeping United States global interests in mind, it would be prudent to assume that should the US interests in the future be better served by sacrificing Pakistan or a part of it, Henry Kissinger's successors would not hesitate to do so. Pakistan must, therefore, strive to keep itself together by weakening those forces that are pulling it apart and this cannot be done by force of arms. The use of strong arm methods has shown that the situation did not, to say the least, improve."
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A renowned Writer Robert D Kaplan had predicted in Mid and Late 90s that several countries are not going to survive and India and Pakistan are amongst those countries. Such theories are launched off and on by the power that be [The USA, IMF and WORLD BANK]to prepare the children of the lesser god for more miseries.
Read the articles of Robert D Kaplan on Baluchistan and India.
Dr Abul Maali Syed's book The Twin era of Pakistan:
Democracy and Dictatorship. Written in 1992, the book predicts an independent Balochistan in 2006. Dr Syed begins his book by saying 'Who would have believed that Balochistan, once the least populated and poorest province of Pakistan, would become independent and the third richest oil-producing country after Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.' This may not be a serious venture, but it should be nevertheless worrying especially if one reads it along with the US National Intelligence Committee that spoke of Pakistan as a failed State in 2015.
The Lawless Frontier By Robert D. Kaplan Atlantic Monthly September, 2000
Baluchistan
This past April in Quetta, the bleached-gray, drought-stricken capital of the Pakistani border province of Baluchistan, I awoke to explosions and gunfire. In search of the violence, my translator, Jamil, and I jumped into a four-wheel-drive Toyota and raced through the section of town inhabited by Pashtoon tribesmen. Suddenly we were surrounded by Pakistani soldiers, who forced us out of the car and pointed assault rifles in our faces. While they searched us, I saw two other soldiers with automatic weapons run along a high wall a few feet from where we stood. Shots rang out from inside the adjacent compound. By 11:00 a.m. five people had been killed and twenty wounded, and a large cache of weapons had been confiscated in a raid on the Pashtoonkhwa Milli Awami (Pashtoon National People's Party), a group supporting an Independent "Pashtoonistan" created out of Pakistani territory. The party stood accused of murders and kidnapping. Security forces claimed victory, but reports later circulated that party members had filtered back into the area with weapons.
THE COMING ANARCHY by Robert D. Kaplan
How scarcity, crime, overpopulation, tribalism, and disease are rapidly destroying the social fabric of our planet
The Atlantic Monthly, February 1994
Pakistan's problem is more basic still: like much of Africa, the country makes no geographic or demographic sense. It was founded as a homeland for the Muslims of the subcontinent, yet there are more subcontinental Muslims outside Pakistan than within it. Like Yugoslavia, Pakistan is a patchwork of ethnic groups, increasingly in violent conflict with one another. While the Western media gushes over the fact that the country has a woman Prime Minister, Benazir Bhutto, Karachi is becoming a subcontinental version of Lagos.
In eight visits to Pakistan, I have never gotten a sense of a cohesive national identity. With as much as 65 percent of its land dependent on intensive irrigation, with wide-scale deforestation, and with a yearly population growth of 2.7 percent (which ensures that the amount of cultivated land per rural inhabitant will plummet), Pakistan is becoming a more and more desperate place. As irrigation in the Indus River basin intensifies to serve two growing populations, Muslim-Hindu strife over falling water tables may be unavoidable.
"India and Pakistan will probably fall apart," Homer-Dixon predicts. "Their secular governments have less and less legitimacy as well as less management ability over people and resources." Rather than one bold line dividing the subcontinent into two parts, the future will likely see a lot of thinner lines and smaller parts, with the ethnic entities of Pakhtunistan and Punjab gradually replacing Pakistan in the space between the Central Asian plateau and the heart of the subcontinent. None of this even takes into account climatic change, which, if it occurs in the next century, will further erode the capacity of existing states to cope. India, for instance, receives 70 percent of its precipitation from the monsoon cycle, which planetary warming could disrupt.
I think, the problem is we always go half the way.
If the agencies killed those three hate promoting individuals then why didn't they get rid of all of them? They are all hate preaching bastards. Yes thats what they preach.
As far as Bugti's murder is concerned, why shed tears? he couldn't have been killed if Pakistan army didn't get the help of the drones. Pakistan army does not have drones.
For any future progress and development in Pakistan it is essential that Baluchistan and it's people be brought up to par with the rest of the country. Right now a large majority of Baloch are living in the stone-age and that's shameful and should be unacceptable to every Pakistani.
That being said, the so-called, self-appointed "leaders" of the Baloch who preach hatred, publicly advocate terrorism and incite rebellion and have taken responsibility for reprehensible crimes against the people and the state of Pakistan, should be put down —with extreme prejudice.
Be it Bugti, Marri or Mengal. All they've ever done is taken food out of the mouths of the poor Baloch.