Swat: Nizam-e-Adl – A Smart Move?

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swat-the-peopleNizam-e-Adl 2009 bill was finally tabled in the Parliament and all the major political parties except MQM voted for the bill and it became a law within no time. President Zardari made a clever move by sending the bill in the Parliament. On one hand if the peace lapses or the militants grow strong then the share of blame will now be equally shared by all the political players. On the other hand, the Pakistani government can sell the peace deal abroad with more audacity since it now enjoys the backing of the representatives of people. While some are hailing this move as signs of political maturity, many quarters are criticizing it in the strongest of terms. Many ‘liberal secularists’ are calling it ceding the land of Swat to the fascist Talebans who took up arms against the state. One must not forget the separate status of Swat area that it enjoys as PATA under the constitution of 1973. The presence of a popular demand for the Sharia law among the locals can not be disputed as it has been surfacing for decades. The present militancy in Swat was just another link in the chain which aimed at exploiting the long sown resentment among the masses.

The law Nizam-e-Adl is all about the procedural changes in the judicial system of Malakand system. A divisional Shariah bench, or Darul Quza, will be established, which will be empowered to make a final decision and the last court of appeal will be the Federal Shariat Court. This does not require a constitutional amendment since the jurisdiction of Supreme Court to the PATA areas was only extended by an ordinary legislation in 1973. The law does not infringes upon any basic fundamental right provided in the constitution. Existing judicial officers would continue to preside over all the courts in Malakand and Kohistan. The criminal and civil cases would be disposed of in the stipulated time of four and six months, respectively. There will be no Taleban-run courts in the district and the interpretation of Sharia will be done by Qazi which will be the nomination of government and not of some Sufi Mohammad or Fazlullah.

The government has made a smart move and called a bluff on all those miscreants who had some other petty agendas in the ongoing militancy wave. Although it has set a worrisome precedent as the government negotiated from a weak position; but then again is peace and security of locals not the first priority of the state? Much will depend on the government now, if it really has the will and capacity to restore its writ in the region. Swat needs some Martial Plan now, it has been kept in the back-burner in the past due to our own follies. The locals are demanding land reforms as there are plenty of their land cases stuck in the courts since 1969, when Wali- led Swat was annexed. It remains to be seen if the government can address all the grievances of the locals but the current peace deal has certainly given the government a chance to do that.


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  1. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    @reflection!

    thanks a lot buddy.you are cordially welcome in this debate.please stay with us.

  2. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    no doubt molana sufi mohammed has an extreme view.

    but dear i couldn’t understand.why your fuse is blown up?

    why you are talking like a liberal fascist? why you are talking like a secular fascist? [Dr Jawwad Khan]

    سپریم کورٹ اور ہائی کورٹ غیرشرعی ہیں

    رفعت اللہ اورکزئی

    بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، پشاور

    کالعدم تحریک نفاذ شریعت محمدی کے سربراہ مولانا صوفی محمد نے کہا کہ پاکستان میں کفر کا نظام رائج ہے اور ہائی کورٹس اور سپریم کورٹ بت خانے ہیں جہاں کبھی فیصلہ قرآن وسنت کے مطابق نہیں ہوا ہے۔

    Sunday, 19 april, 2009, 10:58 GMT 15:58 PST

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2009/04/090419

    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    I am no more a Liberal or Secular Fascist and I support Maulana Sufi Muhammad point of view because:

    The Post may please be read in the context of the Deviant Ideologies of Political Islamists Type of Muslims living in Anglo Saxon Based Secular Democratic Countries of the West:

    Democracy: meaning rule by the people for the people not as per Islam through Quran and Sunnah. [JI and JUI should stop contesting elections]

    Undoubtedly the democratic system is one of the modern forms of shirk, in terms of obedience and following, or legislation, as it denies the sovereignty of the Creator and His absolute right to issue laws, and ascribes that right to human beings. Allah says:

    Those whom ye worship beside Him are but names which ye have named, ye and your fathers. Allah hath revealed no sanction for them. The decision rests with Allah only, Who hath commanded you that ye worship none save Him. This is the right religion, but most men know not. [YUSUF (JOSEPH) Chapter 12 – Verse 40]

    The decision is for Allah only. [AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6 Verse 57]

    So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires, but beware of them lest they seduce thee from some part of that which Allah hath revealed unto thee. And if they turn away, then know that Allah's Will is to smite them for some sin of theirs. Lo! many of mankind are evil-livers. Is it a judgment of the time of (pagan) ignorance that they are seeking? Who is better than Allah for judgment to a people who have certainty (in their belief)? [AL-MAEDA (THE TABLE, THE TABLE SPREAD) Chapter 5 – Verse 49 and 50]

    Lo! as for those whom the angels take (in death) while they wrong themselves, (the angels) will ask: In what were ye engaged? They will say: We were oppressed in the land. (The angels) will say: Was not Allah's earth spacious that ye could have migrated therein? As for such, their habitation will be hell, an evil journey's end; [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 Verse 97]

    Prophet Mohammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen [Polytheists].” [Sunnan Abu Dawood]

    It is obligatory to migrate from the kaafir lands to the Muslim lands for those who are able to do that, if they are unable to practise their religion openly.

    Ibn al-‘Arabi al-Maaliki said: Hijrah (migration) means leaving dar al-harb [non-Muslim lands] and going to dar al-islam [Muslim lands]. This was obligatory at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and remains so after his time for those who fear for their lives. From Nayl al-Awtaar, 8/33, by al-Shawkaani.

    Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar said concerning the hadeeth, “I disown every Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen”:

    This is to be understood as referring to those who are not safe to practise their religion there. [Ref: Fath al-Baari]

    For example:

    If you want to live in the West then follow their Law and don't complain about Prohibition of Veil, dont raise hue and cry when someone amongst them use 'Freedom of Expression' to practice Homosexuality and Lesbianism openly [what do you think when an underage or even adult Muslim male or female watch these acts of Hedonism? Wont this effect him or her? Forbidden as per Quran to even go near to those things which lead to Adultery].

    And come not near unto adultery. Lo! it is an abomination and an evil way.[AL-ISRA (ISRA', THE NIGHT JOURNEY, CHILDREN OF ISRAEL) Chapter 17 Verse 32]

    Even watching these things gives you wrong ideas?

    What about your Tax Money through which USA and other NATO Countries financing War On Terror and bombing Innocent Muslims? Forbidden in Quran to help Combatant Non-Muslims in any way. What do you think your Tax Money does? Undoubtedly the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not compromise in matters of his religion. When he was in Makkah, before the Hijrah, he used to pray openly, whilst they were looking on. After the Muslims became a distinct community, a specific style of dress was ordained for them, and they commanded to forsake anything else that was a symbol of kufr and was distinctive to the kuffaar, because this is imitation, and whoever imitates a people is one of them.

    How can the believer be content to live in the land of the Non Muslims where the rituals of kufr [Disbelief] are proclaimed openly and rule belongs to someone other than Allaah and His Messenger, seeing that with his own eyes, hearing that with his own ears and approving of it, and even starting to feel that he belongs there and living there with his wife and children, and feeling as comfortable there as he does in the Muslim lands, even though he and his wife and children are in such great danger and their religious commitment and morals are in such peril?

    AS PER PURE ISLAMIC LAW [FOR WHICH THIS UMMAH IS ITCHING] and since theses don't exist in the West and that is why those who condemn Secular-Anglo-Saxon Western Democarcies should come back to SWAT-PAKISTAN AND IMMEDIATELY.

    Following are the salient feature of the Secular Democracies through which Islamic Political Activists Type of Muslims particularly those who belonged to Jamat-e-Islami and Ikhwan but settled in the West, reap all the benefits and then shamelessly raise finger against the same system.

    1 – Insurance.

    3 – Banking.

    4 – Adult Franchise and Voting Power.

    5 – Freedom of Speech and Free Media.

  3. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    in islam views and interpretation can be different upto a certain level. Almighty made human to differ.this is the reason that there are many interpretations inspite of one ALLAH(SWT),one Rasoolullah(saww) and one Quran e kareem.

    this is ther reason that there are 5 major schools of thoughts in islam. differences are ok.i do not have any problem with that [Dr Jawwad Khan]

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    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    Please name the Fifth School of Thought in Islam [and dont forget that you have passed very negative comment on Shias because I will quote your own comment]

    You have basically repeated:

    Translation: Difference of Opinion is an essential part of Islam Yaani "Ikhtalaf-e-Ummat Bais-e-Rehmat Hai"

    Ahl ul Bidah [Innovators – Bida'ati] quote this statement as a hadith, but it is not mentioned in the six authentic collections of Hadith and its chain of narrators is also not known. There are various versions of this statement. In some versions it is mentioned, "The difference of opinions among my Companions is a mercy for you." Or "The difference of opinions of my Companions is a mercy for my Ummah." Many scholars of Hadith consider all these versions as weak or da'if as far as their narration is concerned. "The saying "Difference of opinion in my Community is a mercy" is the most perverse saying possible, because if difference were mercy, agreement would be anger, and it is impossible for a Muslim to say this, because there can only be either agreement, or difference, and there can only be either mercy, or anger."

    There is no place of difference in Islam.Period. And If differences are ok then we should discard these verses from Quran:

    أَفَلاَ يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ اللّهِ لَوَجَدُواْ فِيهِ اخْتِلاَفًا كَثِيرًا

    [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 – Verse 82]

    Afala yatadabbaroona alqurana walaw kana min AAindi ghayri Allahilawajadoo feehi ikhtilafan katheeran

    Interpretation of the meaning:

    Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity. [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 – Verse 82]

    Sectarianism is negation of Quran.

    True Muslims should be content with the name "Muslims given to them by Almighty Allah as He says:

    وَجَاهِدُوا فِي اللَّهِ حَقَّ جِهَادِهِ هُوَ اجْتَبَاكُمْ وَمَا جَعَلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ مِنْ حَرَجٍ مِّلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمينَ مِن قَبْلُ وَفِي هَذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاء عَلَى النَّاسِ فَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَاعْتَصِمُوا بِاللَّهِ هُوَ مَوْلَاكُمْ فَنِعْمَ الْمَوْلَى وَنِعْمَ النَّصِيرُ

    And strive for Allah with the endeavour which is His right. He hath chosen you and hath not laid upon you in religion any hardship; the faith of your father Abraham (is yours). He hath named you Muslims of old time and in this (Scripture), that the messenger may be a witness against you, and that ye may be witnesses against mankind. So establish worship, pay the poor-due, and hold fast to Allah. He is your Protecting friend. A blessed Patron and a blessed Helper! [AL-HAJJ (THE PILGRIMAGE) Chapter 22 – Verse 78]

    إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِندَ اللَّهِ الإِسْلَـمُ

    English Translation:

    The Religion before Allah is Islam [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 – Verse 19]

    وَاعْتَصِمُواْ بِحَبْلِ اللَّهِ جَمِيعاً وَلاَ تَفَرَّقُواْ

    English Translation:

    And hold fast, all of you together, to the cable of Allah, and do not separate. [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 – Verse 103]

    وَلاَ تَكُونُواْ كَالَّذِينَ تَفَرَّقُواْ وَاخْتَلَفُواْ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَهُمُ الْبَيِّنَـتُ وَأُوْلَـئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ

    English Translation:

    And be ye not as those who separated and disputed after the clear proofs had come unto them. For such there is an awful doom, [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 – Verse 105]

    وَأَطِيعُواْ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَلاَ تَنَـزَعُواْ فَتَفْشَلُواْ وَتَذْهَبَ رِيحُكُمْ وَاصْبِرُواْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الصَّـبِرِينَ

    English Translation:

    And obey Allah and His messenger, and dispute not one with another lest ye falter and your strength depart from you; but be steadfast! Lo! Allah is with the steadfast. [AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY) Chapter 8 – Verse 46]

    وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ فِى شِيَعِ الاٌّوَّلِينَ – وَمَا يَأْتِيهِم مِّن رَّسُولٍ إِلاَّ كَانُواْ بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ

    English Translation:

    We verily sent (messengers) before thee among the factions of the men of old. And never came there unto them a messenger but they did mock him. [AL-HIJR (AL-HIJR, STONELAND, ROCK CITY) Chapter 15 – Verse 10 and 11]

    قُلْ هُوَ الْقَادِرُ عَلَى أَن يَبْعَثَ عَلَيْكُمْ عَذَاباً مِّن فَوْقِكُمْ أَوْ مِن تَحْتِ أَرْجُلِكُمْ أَوْ يَلْبِسَكُمْ شِيَعاً وَيُذِيقَ بَعْضَكُمْ بَأْسَ بَعْضٍ انْظُرْ كَيْفَ نُصَرِّفُ الاٌّيَـتِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَفْقَهُونَ

    English Translation:

    Say: He is able to send punishment upon you from above you or from beneath your feet, or to bewilder you with dissension and make you taste the tyranny one of another. See how We display the revelations so that they may understand. [AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6 Verse 65]

    إِنَّ فِرْعَوْنَ عَلاَ فِى الاٌّرْضِ

    َجَعَلَ أَهْلَهَا شِيَعاً

    English Translation:

    Lo! Pharaoh exalted himself in the earth and made its people castes. [AL-QASAS (THE STORY, STORIES) Chapter 28 – Verse 4]

    مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيْهِ وَاتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُواْ الصَّلوةَ وَلاَ تَكُونُواْ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ – مِنَ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُواْ دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُواْ شِيَعاً كُلُّ حِزْبٍ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ فَرِحُونَ

    English Translation:

    Turning unto Him (only); and be careful of your duty unto Him and establish worship, and be not of those who ascribe partners (unto Him); Of those who split up their religion and became schismatics, each sect exulting in its tenets. [AL-ROOM (THE ROMANS, THE BYZANTINES) Chapter 30 – Verse 31 and 32]

    إِنَّ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُواْ دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُواْ شِيَعًا لَّسْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِى شَىْءٍ إِنَّمَآ أَمْرُهُمْ إِلَى اللَّهِ ثُمَّ يُنَبِّئُهُم بِمَا كَانُواْ يَفْعَلُونَ

    English Translation:

    Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them. Their case will go to Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do. [AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6 – Verse 159]

  4. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Comment by reflection on April 20, 2009 @ 2:05 am

    @ Aamir Mughal, your comment of 19 april @ 7.40pm addressed to Dr.Jawwad ref: Al-Maudoodi Kashmir Jihad, you have wrongly quoted and presented A Qadiani, dirty anti-Jihad propaganda, I have read all your comments and I maintain my opinion on that, for your convinience kindly read the book by Maudoodi ” Masala-e-Kashmir page 86 ” a letter addressed to Chief Organisers, High Command, Kashmir Jihad Counsil, Peshawar on 3rd nov 1963 ref: makateeb part one page 110 and 111. In the same book page 89 a chapter dedicated,

    Masala-e-Kashmir, wahid hal = Al Jihad, I have the book just infront of me. I agree with Dr Jawwad you are exposed, they are sheer slanders, lies and forgeries, I trust non of your references [Reflection]

    ==============================

    Dear Sir,

    I didn't know that Mawlana Mawdudi's son Haider Farooq Mawdudi is Quadiyani!

    "QUOTE"

    An Interview with Haider Farooq Mawdudi, Noted Pakistani Islamic Scholar

    Haider Farooq Mawdudi, noted Pakistani Islamic scholar and son of the Late Maulana Sayed-ul-Ala Mawdudi, founder of the Jamaat-e-Islami(JEI), is one of the most vocal critics of the protagonists of 'Jihad' in Kashmir. In an interview given to a Lahore based Urdu magazine 'Diwar-e-Shahar' (August-September, 1998) he has openly come out against the present JEI leadership of Pakistani for supporting militancy in Kashmir. He has refuted 'Jihad' in Kashmir on the grounds that its against the tenets of the Quran as Islam does not permit a covert war. In this connection, quoting his father's stand on the issue, he points out that the double standards in Pakistani policy of pursuing diplomatic relations with India while waging a 'Jihad' against it through covert means. He also castigated the JEI leadership of Pakistan for spending huge amounts on waging 'Jihad' in Kashmir and sacrificing the lives of thousands of innocent and poor people. Excerpts from the interview is reproduced below.

    The Lucknow based vernacular weekly, 'Jedeed Markaz', published in Urdu and Hindi, has reproduced the said interview on its October 25-31, 1998 edition.

    Question: In what connection, did you visit India recently and who all did you meet and why?

    Answer: I met different Muslim leaders, including Kashmiris during my recent visit to India and expressed the view that three wars have been fought between India and Pakistan over Kashmir since their inception fifty years back and therefore, the Kashmir issue should now be solved at any cost and the Kashmiri Muslims should get the same benefits which are being enjoyed by the other Muslims living in India. I told the Kashmiri leaders that they were getting their young generation killed without any reason. The education, economy and everything of Muslims is being destroyed. I asked them to hold talks with the Indian government and get their demands met legitimately and constitutionally.

    Question: Haider Shahji, what sort of opinion you have given there? On one hand, holy 'Jihad' is being fought in Kashmir while as you are talking about constitutional right, education and economy.

    Answer: (Retorting back) What kind of 'Jihad' is being fought in Kashmir, you do not know the difference between 'Jihad' and violence. The ongoing blood-bath in Kashmir in the name of 'Jihad' can not even be termed as 'Khurooj'(revolt). You should study the 'Fiqah'(Islamic Law).

    Question: But the 'Jamaat' of your father, Maulana Abdul Ala Mawdudi declares it as 'Jihad'.

    Answer: Now, this is no more the 'Jamaat' of my father, this is now the 'Jamaat' of Qazi Hussain Ahmad. My father had categorically refused to accept the ongoing violence in Kashmir as 'Jihad'.

    Question: What are you talking about? Kashmiris are fighting for their right of self-determination, which has been bluntly rejected by India. The Britishers gave Kashmir to India through a wrongful partition, which Nehru, Mountbatten and Radcliffe had committed through dishonesty?

    Answer: Maulana Mawdudi, in his interview published in the bi-weekly journal of Jamaat-e-Islami, "Kausar" dated August 17, 1998, has clearly said that the intricacies developed over the Kashmiri issue are the result of the mistakes of 'our' leaders who accepted an ambiguous condition of the Britishers that the accession of any 'Riyasat' to a country would be decided by the Head of the 'Riyasat' and not only by the dominion of the 'Riyasat'. They also left the decision regarding the fixation of borders to Radcliffe and Mountbatten which resulted in the inclusion of Gurdaspur district in the Indian union and it also gave an opportunity to the Hindu King of Kashmir to accede to India.

    Question: Haider Saheb, you said that it is not lawful according to 'Shariat' to fight against that country with whom 'we' have diplomatic relations?

    Answer: Don't degrade its importance. I have not said that but Maulana Mawdudi said this. I do not possess such a personality. Maulana Mawdudi has categorically stated that according to 'Quran', it is unlawful to wage a war by a country against the country with which diplomatic relations are maintained. He has further said that it one party commits breach of agreement then the opposite party should first severe diplomatic ties with it and then resort to war-tactics instead of maintaining diplomatic relations overtly and resorting to war-tactics covertly. He stressed that Islam taught 'us' that if we, want to fight against anyone, 'we' should fight openly and if 'we' wish to maintain friendly relations with someone, 'we' should stick to that relation without any prejudice.

    Question: Haider Sahab, Maulana Mawdudi was a giant personality and a great religious scholar. We should talk about present scenario. Jamaat-e-Islami is still spending a lot on 'Jehad-e-Kashmir' also rendering sacrifices?

    Answer: Yes, presently the situation is such that Jamaat receives Rs. 60,000/- for every militant killed in Kashmir out this, only 15,000-20,000/- are being given to the families of the martyrs, while as the remaining amount is eaten up by the JEI leaders themselves who have opened a factory of martyrs. JEI leaders have made money by getting others children killed. As far as they themselves are concerned, no son of Qazi Hussain Ahmad was killed either in Afghanistan or Kashmiri, 'Jihad' and his children are leading a luxurious life while studying in the United States.

    "UNQUOTE"

  5. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Comment by reflection on April 20, 2009 @ 2:05 am

    @ Aamir Mughal, your comment of 19 april @ 7.40pm addressed to Dr.Jawwad ref: Al-Maudoodi Kashmir Jihad, you have wrongly quoted and presented A Qadiani, dirty anti-Jihad propaganda, I have read all your comments and I maintain my opinion on that, for your convinience kindly read the book by Maudoodi ” Masala-e-Kashmir page 86 ” a letter addressed to Chief Organisers, High Command, Kashmir Jihad Counsil, Peshawar on 3rd nov 1963 ref: makateeb part one page 110 and 111. In the same book page 89 a chapter dedicated,

    Masala-e-Kashmir, wahid hal = Al Jihad, I have the book just infront of me. I agree with Dr Jawwad you are exposed, they are sheer slanders, lies and forgeries, I trust non of your references [Reflection]

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    Dear Sir,

    I didn’t know that Mawlana Mawdudi’s son Haider Farooq Mawdudi is Quadiyani!

    There is no case for Jihad in Kashmir

    http://www.jammu-kashmir.com/insights/insight9811

  6. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    So you admit that the Taliban are "valuable" to you; and you condone their behaviour. That says more than enough about you, Dr Jawwad. Real sad.

  7. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    So you admit that the Taliban are “valuable” to you; and you condone their behaviour. That says more than enough about you, Dr Jawwad. Real sad.[Danial Burki]

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    this is ther reason that there are 5 major schools of thoughts in islam. differences are ok.i do not have any problem with that [Dr Jawwad Khan]

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    Dear Sir,

    The 5th Islamic School of Thought was treated like this by your Favourite Taliban when they were ruling the roost in Afghanistan, I hope you condone this as well:

    THE MASSACRE IN MAZAR-I SHARIF

    http://www.hrw.org/reports98/afghan/

    Glimpses of US Support to Taliban.

    Robin Raphel and Karl Inderfurth Supported Terrorists Mullah Omar and Bin Laden's friends at State Department Documents confirm Pak aid to Taliban MANOJ JOSHI

    http://www.persiancarpetguide.com/sw-asia/JBOC/jb

    The September 11th Sourcebooks Volume VII: The Taliban File

    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB97/inde

  8. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    So you admit that the Taliban are “valuable” to you; and you condone their behaviour. That says more than enough about you, Dr Jawwad. Real sad.[Danial Burki]

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    this is ther reason that there are 5 major schools of thoughts in islam. differences are ok.i do not have any problem with that [Dr Jawwad Khan]

    ==========================

    Dear Sir,

    The 5th Islamic School of Thought was treated like this by your Favourite Taliban when they were ruling the roost in Afghanistan, I hope you condone this as well:

    THE MASSACRE IN MAZAR-I SHARIF

    New Links are as under on Human Rights Abuses and be prepared for the same in Pakistan:

    AFGHANISTAN

    MASSACRES OF HAZARAS IN AFGHANISTAN

    http://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports/2001/afghanista

    Afghanistan: Taliban ID Policy Creates Second-Class Citizens

    http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2001/05/23/afghanistan

    Afghanistan : Action Needed to Prevent More Killings

    http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2001/02/18/afghanistan

    Afghanistan: Taliban Massacres Detailed

    http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2001/02/18/afghanistan

    Survivors Describe Taliban

    Human Rights Watch urges U.N. Investigation of Massacre

    http://www.hrw.org/en/news/1998/10/31/survivors-d

    UN Urged to Prevent More Killings as Taliban Offensive Continues

    http://www.hrw.org/en/news/1998/09/13/un-urged-pr

  9. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    So you admit that the Taliban are “valuable” to you; and you condone their behaviour. That says more than enough about you, Dr Jawwad. Real sad.[Danial Burki]

    =======================

    this is ther reason that there are 5 major schools of thoughts in islam. differences are ok.i do not have any problem with that [Dr Jawwad Khan]

    ===================

    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    You will tolerate this as well and let me remind you that this had happened under General Musharraf and if you dont believe then you can always check Library for old newspaper issue regarding this incident which happened with the visitors of a country [Pakistan] whose Establishment was playing footsie with Taliban Calamity.

    No complaints — Pak soccer body KAMAL SIDDIQI Wednesday, July 19, 2000

    http://www.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/20000719/is

    KARACHI, July 18: The Pakistan Football Federation said on Tuesday that it would not condemn an incident in neighbouring Afghanistan last week in which members of the Taliban militia shaved off heads of Pakistani soccer players for wearing “un-Islamic dress'' during a friendly football match with Afghans at Kandahar.

    The bizarre incident occurred when the Taliban raided the third match between the players from Pakistan and their Afghan competitors in the religious capital of Afghanistan, Kandahar, and accused the Pakistani players of “spreading obscenity and inciting passions'' by wearing shorts.The Taliban had earlier decreed that men could wear only shalwars (baggy trousers) when playing football. The game, which has a passionate following in Afghanistan, was reluctantly allowed by the Taliban, alongwith male wrestling, after most sport activities were banned for being a waste of time.

    Abdul Qayuum, captain of the young Afghan Club, Chaman (Pakistan) told a Pakistani newspaper said the players were released on Sunday last and were deported to Pakistan.The Pakistani players who escaped sought refuge in the local Pakistani consulate. But the Pakistan Football Federation said that it would not condemn the incident since the punishment was “not that severe'' and that the match was not an official engagement between the two countries.Earlier, Afghanistan hit the sports headlines when it did not allow their boxing team to shave their beards – as it is a crime to shave one's beard in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan. The boxers were automatically disqualified from their Asian Boxing engagements.

  10. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    So you admit that the Taliban are “valuable” to you; and you condone their behaviour. That says more than enough about you, Dr Jawwad. Real sad.[Danial Burki]

    =======================

    this is ther reason that there are 5 major schools of thoughts in islam. differences are ok.i do not have any problem with that [Dr Jawwad Khan]

    =================

    Just imagine CJ sitting on the floor.

    Sufi’s public meeting lifts climate of fear in Swat

    Monday, April 20, 2009 By Rahimullah Yusufzai

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?I

    Maulana Sufi Muhammad has his own simplistic vision of Shariah. If he had his way, he would force the judges, or Qazis as they are known in Malakand division, to sit on the floor and hear cases brought to them by litigants. Lawyers have no business in his scheme of things and Qazis ought to be made accountable if they delay judgements in cases pending in their courts. Shariah for him revolves round dispensation of justice. Education, health, socio-economic issues hold secondary importance for him. The Qazi courts that are being set up under the Nizam-e-Adl Regulation might start delivering speedy justice but this isn’t the only demand and expectation of the people of Swat and elsewhere in Malakand division. They expect a lot more from the Shariah that Sufi Muhammad is insisting would henceforth be the supreme law in the area.

  11. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    @ Aamir Mughal, your comment of 19 april @ 7.40pm addressed to Dr.Jawwad ref: Al-Maudoodi Kashmir Jihad, I agree with Dr Jawwad you are exposed, they are sheer slanders, lies and forgeries, I trust non of your references [Reflection]

    ==========================

    Islamisation: cure of all evils Qazi Hussain Ahmad Monday, April 20, 2009

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=17

    Complete Islamisation of Pakistan has been the genuine and long-standing demand of the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis. Not only that, it is also the appropriate answer to the lurking fears of Talibanisation, growing rapidly with every passing day, as a natural response to the suppression of this public demand at the state level.

    The writer is a former amir of the Jamaat-e-Islami.

    =====

    As per Sufi Muhammad [TNSM] , Judiciary and Democracy are Haram [Unlawful] in Islam, Qazi Hussain Ahmed should revive his Faith on Islam because JAMAT-E-ISLAMI has participated in several General Elections. Hail Sufi Muhammad….

    Where were these wondeful thoughts when Qazi Hussain Ahmed signing the LFO/17th Constitutional Amendment to support Illegal Steps of Military Dictator General Musharraf, Jamat-e-Islami shared power with General Musharraf Regime in Baluchistan and NWFP from 2002 – 2007 [MMA was the name of the alliance]. Why no and if you dont believe me then read the Interview of JI's Founder Mawdudi's son Haider Mawdudi and do read wht he says about Jamat-e-Islami and Qazi Hussain Ahmed.

    'MMA was created by ISI' RECORDER REPORT [Courtesy Business Recorder 2005]

    http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=198267&…

    MULTAN (February 16 2005): Farooq Maudoodi son of founder of Jamaat-i-Islami, late Abul Aala Maudoodi, has said that Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA) had been created by ISI and it is a part and parcel of the military government and cannot part ways with President Pervez Musharraf. Talking to a group of journalists here on Tuesday he said: "Qazi Hussain Ahmed met the then ISI chief, General Ehsan-ul-Haq, then called on General Pervez Musharraf and later met US ambassador, then flew to United States. As soon as he returned, MMA was formed like IJI (Islami jamhoori Ittehad)."

    He said that IJI was organised by ISI and funds were also provided by it on the assurance of Qazi Hussain Ahmed, who had also played a key role in IJI. "Now he is playing major role in MMA."

    Bitterly criticising the MMA, Farooq said that the role of MMA is evidence of its loyalties with military regime. It had approved the 17th constitutional amendment which is in favour of the present regime.

    He said: "Where has the MMA movement gone while its leadership is claiming that it would continue till the achievement of objective of 'Uniform'?"

    Farooq said that Benazir knew very well about MMA and she had some reservations about it. He said that ISI has complete record of MMA leaders and they cannot escape. He said that politics ended in 1958 when Ayub imposed martial law. He said that plundering of evacuee trust property (Auqaf) and politics of clerics destroyed the politics of the country.

    Regarding deletion of column of 'religion' from Passport, he said that it was a good step and Ulema should have welcomed it but they made it part of their agitation to hoodwink the innocent Muslims.

    Farooq said that some bad things were added in the constitution by Zia-ul-Haq, which must be excluded, which had bred many ills.

  12. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Aamir Mughal,

    I have no remedy for your pure ” Hizyaan ” reflected
    all along your comments with kizb, forgeries and false
    declarations, now, you have put the whole thing on
    Maudoodi’s son, I can say that all the evil Khalifats
    of Qadianis have this Iblissi habit of
    ” KIZB-e-Lamutanai ” I reserve the right to massacre
    you with just nothing but Maudoodi’s
    Khatam-e-nabuat, but, I shall use that later, first let
    me flogg you with the following :
    The Impostor’s declaration on Jihad

    ” I believe that the increase of my followers
    will thin out the ranks of believersin Jehad,
    To believe in me is to repudiate the doctrine of
    Jehad “-Ibid.
    ” By far the greater part of my life has been spent
    in preaching loyalty to the British Govt. I have
    written so many books denouncing Jehad and preaching
    loyalties to British Govt, and I have published so
    many handbills, that they would fill fifty Alimrahs
    if put together

    Mirza Ghulam Ahmed (Qadiani)
    Taryaq-ul-Qulub p.15.

  13. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    Aamir Mughal,

    The patriotic Talibans will solve your problem

    once and for all, you and your American Fake

    Prophets have done enormous harm to the entire

    humanity.

  14. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Aamir Mughal,

    I can compare your " Hizyaan " with that of

    Mirza Qadiani listen to this

    Mirza says :

    " I saw in a vision that I had become

    God Al-Mighty (laanati Mirza)and I believe that

    I was so infact. While in this transcendental state

    I creted heavens and earth. I then created Adam out

    of dust and moulded him in the best of forms. Thus I

    bacame the creator of the world."

    "I had become God, then later, Marry and then Jesus,

    It was revealed that I was pragnant of all three. "

    Laanat be on American and Indo/israeli Impostors

    working against Pakistan within Pakistan.

  15. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    Aamir Mughal & Co,

    No.2 ) Mirza says :

    " I heard the voice of God saying: " O Mirza !

    I am from thee and thou art from me !

    Thou art unto Me like a son "

    Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani

  16. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Comment by reflection on April 20, 2009 @ 12:01 pm

    @ Aamir Mughal, I can compare your ” Hizyaan ” with that of

    Mirza Qadiani listen to this Laanat be on American and Indo/israeli Impostors working against Pakistan within Pakistan. Comment by reflection on April 20, 2009 @ 12:30 pm Aamir Mughal & Co,No.2 ) Mirza says :Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani [Reflection]

    ===========================

    Dear Sir,

    Please visit my blog and read for yourself as to how I have discussed Pervezis [Hadith Rejectors], and Quadiyanis as well. More than welcome to my blog. I am by the Grace of Allah, a Muslim.

  17. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Dr Jawwad,

    don't you worry, Sir,

    you hit them with Fake American Talibans

    and Qadianis helping Indo/Israeli Army inAfghanistan,

    I shall, Inshallah, cut them with Mirza's mughalizats

    Maudoodis book Qadiani Masala. Lets finish them !

    the baqiate of crusaders !!

  18. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    I think Sufi Muhammad is correct in his comment above about Pakistani Judiciary which is evident from the recent decision passed by supreme court like this:

    1 – SC grants bail to Maulana Aziz in library case By Sohail Khan Thursday, April 16, 2009

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?I

    I hope Mr/Miss Reflection and Dr Jawwad Khan will agree with Sufi Muhammad on this as well that indirectly Maulana Abdul Aziz Ghazi has committed a Kufr [Disbelief] by approaching the present Supreme Court because Sufi Muhammad declares…read yourself

    Superior courts ‘un-Islamic’, says Swat Sufi: Govt asked to set up Darul Qaza by 23rd By Our Correspondent

    Monday, 20 Apr, 2009 | 03:14 AM PST

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-

    MINGORA, April 19: Chief of the defunct Tehrik-i-Nifaz-i-Shariat-i-Mohammadi Maulana Sufi Mohammad said on Sunday the Supreme Court and High Courts were ‘Ghair Sharaee’ (un-Islamic) institutions and, therefore, it would be ‘Haram’ to approach them to file appeals.

    He said decisions of Qazi courts could not be challenged in civil courts. “In case of any reservation over a judgment, the complainant should move a Darul Qaza (superior court),” he said. The decision of Darul Qaza would be final and not to be challenged in the Supreme Court and High Courts, he added.

    He said there was no room for democracy in Islam and the existing political system in Pakistan was in contravention of the Quran and Sunnah, adding: “Allah’s nizam should be enforced on Allah’s land.”

  19. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Aamir Mughal,

    The patriotic Talibans will solve your problem once and for all, you and your American Fake Prophets have done enormous harm to the entire humanity.

    ====================

    Who are Patriotic Taliban? Please define? Do they accpet Pakistan's Judiciary?

    Ansar Abbais's newspaper reports…

    End judicial system by April 23, demands Sufi By Essa Khankhel Monday, April 20, 2009

    Claims Islam does not allow democracy or elections

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?I

    MINGORA: Tehrik Nifaz Shariat-e-Muhammadi (TNSM) chief Maulana Sufi Muhammad has warned the government to wind up its judicial system within four days and establish the appellate court of Darul Qaza for the Malakand division, or he will re-launch his protest campaign.

  20. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Aamir Mughal,

    Abdullah bin Ubbai said the same,

    Abdullah Bin Sabbah said the same thing

    Hassan bin Sabbah said the same thing

    Taseer says the same thing

    PPP says the same thing

    The corrupt secualr and liberal sufis say the same thing,

    The kharajits and mutazzali say the same thing

    ANP Anti-Pakistani declared the same thing

    MQM say the same thing,

    Mughal said the same thing, created however "Din-e-Ilahi"

    Free mason say the same thing ?

    " we are, by the Grace of God, muslim "

    But we all trust those who say :

    we are sunni muslim

    we are shia muslims

    we belong to sunni Hunmbal

    we belong to sunni Shafai

    we belong to sunni Hanafi (75% of total muslims)

    we belong to sunni Malikite

    we belong to Shia fiqh Jaffaria

    atleast they identify themselves, as for Wahabis,

    no, they are not sect, nor a religious group, its a

    simple movement created to get rid of corrupted

    bida's from aqaaids based on Quran sunnah and Hadith,

    introduced during decline of muslim Empire particularly

    Usmani where Malukiat was justified, thus creating all

    confusions. Imam Bukhari established the final 20 canons

    to judge a hadith.

  21. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Dear Reflection and Dr Jawwad Sahab,

    Please solve this riddle that Sufi Muhammad says "Chief of the defunct Tehrik-i-Nifaz-i-Shariat-i-Mohammadi Maulana Sufi Mohammad said on Sunday the Supreme Court and High Courts were ‘Ghair Sharaee’ (un-Islamic) institutions and, therefore, it would be ‘Haram’ to approach them to file appeals." Claims Islam does not allow democracy or elections"

    And I agree with Sufi Muhammad because he is correctly interpreting Islam but please read the news below and tell, which kind of Islam, Jamat-e-Islami follow???

    JI to participate in lawyers’ long march, sit-in

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=69220

    Updated at: 1030 PST, Saturday, February 21, 2009

    LAHORE: Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) Amir, Qazi Hussain Ahmad has declared that his party would fully participate in the lawyer’ long march and sit-in.

    A delegation headed by Supreme Court Bar Association (SCBA)’s president, Ali Ahmad Kurd and comprised of Chaudhry Aitzaz Ahsan, Hamid Khan and Justice (Retd.) Tariq Mahmud called on JI Chief at Mansoora here.

    Qazi Hussain Ahmad talking to the lawyers said that JI would play the front role in lawyers’ long march. SCBA president, Ali Ahmad Kurd urged on JI for extending all out support to the lawyers’ community for making their sit-in successful. He said that the lawyers would stage sit-in until the reinstatement of deposed chief justice. It may be recalled that the ML-N chief, Nawaz Sharif yesterday had also announced his party’s full participation in long march and sit-in.

  22. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Aamir Mughal,

    and the Qadianis say the same thing

    we are muslims,

  23. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    ANP Anti-Pakistani declared the same thing.[Reflection]

    =====================

    Dear Reflection,

    Correct and check your staement above because Sunni-Deobandi Hanafi Sufi Muhammad praises the ANP Govt.

    The TNSM chief praised the ‘Pakhtunkhwa government’ for the enforcement of Nizam-i-Adl and said people of the region would remember their efforts for a long time.

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-

  24. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    But we all trust those who say :

    we are sunni muslim, we are shia muslims, we belong to sunni Hunmbal, we belong to sunni Shafai, we belong to sunni Hanafi (75% of total muslims), we belong to sunni Malikite, we belong to Shia fiqh Jaffaria [Reflection]

    ========================

    Dear Sir,

    Would you follow Quranic Verse or follow the above mentioned sects???

    Quran doesn't accept sunni, shia, Hunmbal, Shafai,Hanafi, Malikite, Shia because Quran says:

    Sectarianism is negation of Quran.

    True Muslims should be content with the name “Muslims given to them by Almighty Allah as He says:

    وَجَاهِدُوا فِي اللَّهِ حَقَّ جِهَادِهِ هُوَ اجْتَبَاكُمْ وَمَا جَعَلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ مِنْ حَرَجٍ مِّلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمينَ مِن قَبْلُ وَفِي هَذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاء عَلَى النَّاسِ فَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَاعْتَصِمُوا بِاللَّهِ هُوَ مَوْلَاكُمْ فَنِعْمَ الْمَوْلَى وَنِعْمَ النَّصِيرُ

    And strive for Allah with the endeavour which is His right. He hath chosen you and hath not laid upon you in religion any hardship; the faith of your father Abraham (is yours). He hath named you Muslims of old time and in this (Scripture), that the messenger may be a witness against you, and that ye may be witnesses against mankind. So establish worship, pay the poor-due, and hold fast to Allah. He is your Protecting friend. A blessed Patron and a blessed Helper! [AL-HAJJ (THE PILGRIMAGE) Chapter 22 – Verse 78]

  25. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    atleast they identify themselves, as for Wahabis,

    no, they are not sect, nor a religious group, its a

    simple movement created to get rid of corrupted

    bida’s from aqaaids based on Quran sunnah and Hadith,

    introduced during decline of muslim Empire particularly

    Usmani where Malukiat was justified, thus creating all

    confusions. [Reflection]

    =========================

    Dear Mr Reflection,

    You need to read a lot because Wahaabis follow Ahmed Bin Hanbal, Ibn Taiymiya and Sheikh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahab in interpretation. [Read A Correction Of Misunderstandings Found In Non-Arabic Sources About The Movement Of Sheikh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab by Hasan 'Abdul Ghaffâr]

    ==

    You say Ottoman Caliphate was turned into Malookiyat! Why then the Giant Ulemas of Deoband ran the campaign of Khilafat Movement?? Were all Deobandi and other Muslim Scholars of India slaves of Dictatorship… You need to read a lot Sir…

  26. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    But we all trust those who say :

    we are sunni muslim , we are shia muslims we are sunni muslim we are shia muslims we belong to sunni Hunmbal

    we belong to sunni Shafai we belong to sunni Hanafi (75% of total muslims) we belong to sunni Malikite we belong to Shia fiqh Jaffaria [Reflection]

    =========================================

    Dear Reflection

    Do you even know what these Muslims Sectarian Mongers say about each other:

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie

  27. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    But we all trust those who say :

    we are sunni muslim , we are shia muslims we belong to Shia fiqh Jaffaria [Reflection]

    ==========================

    Dear Reflection,

    You really do need a lot to read because on one hand you say But we all trust who say the above and in earlier paragraph you deny yourself by condemning the following:

    Abdullah Bin Sabbah said the same thing

    Hassan bin Sabbah said the same thing

    These two characters you mentioned were Shias and belonged to Fiqh Jaferiya so much so there are many reports on Abdullah Ibn Sabah in the most authentic Shia book Usool-e-Kafi by Kulaini.

    Also read these books to learn something about Sectarianism:

    1 – Al-Fisal fi al-Milal wa al-Ahwa’ wa al-Nihal (”The Separators Concerning Religions, Heresies, and Sects”) by Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi Al Zahiri.

    2 – Al-Milal wa al-Nihal كتاب الملل و النحل, The Book of Sects and Creeds by Abdul Karim Al Shahrastani.

    3 – Al-Ghunya li-talibi tariq al-haqq wa al-din (Sufficient Provision for Seekers of the Path of Truth and Religion) by Abdul-Qadir Gilani

    4 – Talbees Iblees – Arabic [The Devil's Deception] by Ibn al-Jawzee explosive on the Shi’a school of thought in Islam, as well as various other groups such as the Khawaarij (Khaarijites) and the Baatineeyah.[also available in Urdu]

    English Translations Talbees Iblees [The Devil's Deception] A – Translated By D.S. Margoliouth Edited By N.K. Singh Published In India, B – Translated Dr. Bilal Philips’

  28. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    we belong to sunni Hanafi (75% of total muslims) atleast they identify themselves, as for Wahabis, no, they are not sect, nor a religious group, its a simple movement created to get rid of corrupted bida’s from aqaaids based on Quran sunnah and Hadith,[Reflection]

    ===================

    Dear Reflection,

    I have the Arabic Thesis of this "Manazra Bazi" between Hanafis and Salafis, read how united Muslims are:

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/02/hanafi-f

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/02/hanafi-f

  29. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Aamir Mughal,

    Sufi Mohd is American agent, he is directly

    involved with Baithullah Mehsood the fake Talibans,

    the in-laws of USA, your Patron !!

  30. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    Aamir Mughal,

    your Manazira

    @ fursat-e-bekaara'n kateti he istarha'y

    jaisay guzre he shaam kisi taseer ki

  31. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    thanks reflection!

    your presence and responces are highly appericiated.please forgive my temporary absence as i am busy in some official stuff for forwarding some medical supplies to the yemen.

    best regards

  32. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    @reflection: Now Sufi Muhammad is an American agent?!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

    Fucking hell! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!~!!!

  33. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Aamir Mughal,

    you have stablished your party, your are

    on the side os Sufi Muhammed, you have no other

    way to run away, you are a fake taliban from

    Savages Takfiris and tehrikis, atlast you admit !!

    I could smell Hassan bin Sabbah in your critics and

    conclusions. He was a jahanumi. a pure one, a

    professional terrorist Baitullah's father !!

    and your sufis Peer !!

    You are a sufi Takfiri !! God damn it !!

  34. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Danial Burki,

    apka poolle khul gaya, you guys are Takfiris

    of Hassan bin Sabbah.

  35. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    Soch samajh ke ilzaam lagana chahye: I'm an atheist; not allied with any kooky sect of Islam, Christianity, Judaism or any religion.

    Disappointed? Whose agent am I now? Haha

  36. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    yes thats right @danial burki is atheist.

    frankly we do not have a problem with atheist.

    because we are what we are.

    the problem is munafiqeen,chanting Quran and Sunna>

    if you want to know the thuggee of @Amir Mughal read the posts in:
    https://teeth.com.pk/blog/2007/07/12/shaheed-or-ha

    read the comments from:

    Comment by Aamir Mughal on April 12, 2009 @ 6:47 pm

    upto:

    Comment by dr.jawwadkhan on April 15, 2009 @ 4:10 pm

    i know its a headache but you will realise the thuggee he adopted.

  37. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    @ Aamir Mughal, Sufi Mohd is American agent, he is directly

    involved with Baithullah Mehsood the fake Talibans, the in-laws of USA, your Patron !![Reflection]

    ================

    Sufi Muhammad is a True Momin and Pious person dont talk about him like that because he follow Quran and Hadith in the most correct possible way:

    The TNSM chief praised the ‘Pakhtunkhwa government’ for the enforcement of Nizam-i-Adl and said people of the region would remember their efforts for a long time.

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-

    End judicial system by April 23, demands Sufi By Essa Khankhel Monday, April 20, 2009

    Claims Islam does not allow democracy or elections

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?I

    MINGORA: Tehrik Nifaz Shariat-e-Muhammadi (TNSM) chief Maulana Sufi Muhammad has warned the government to wind up its judicial system within four days and establish the appellate court of Darul Qaza for the Malakand division, or he will re-launch his protest campaign.

  38. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Dr. Jawwad,

    my experience of atheists, is that

    they are basically and essentially

    Islamophobe and anti-Islam and can

    be concretely Marxist etc etc.

    As for Aamir Mughal, this chap was on

    Khalifa Adil Najam's blog for last three years.

    spreading rumours and fake blogs.

    I am thru with him, I would enjoy you using a

    fine strong cricket bat !!

  39. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    As for Aamir Mughal, this chap was on Khalifa Adil Najam’s blog for last three years. spreading rumours and fake blogs.

    I am thru with him, I would enjoy you using a fine strong cricket bat !![Reflection]

    ========================

    Dear Reflection,

    I didn't know that Islamist like you tell lies as well. You say my blog is on Adil Najam's blog since last three years. Sir, kindly check my profile because I started my blog in October 2008. Check the profile and then concoct a lie.

  40. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    @reflection: that says very little about your experience. Heh. Good riddance.

  41. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    @reflection!

    would you please give me the link of khalifa adil najams blog?

  42. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    @reflection! would you please give me the link of khalifa adil najams blog? [Dr Jawwad]

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    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    Mr Reflection couldn't even differentiate between even the names Owais Mughal and Aamir Mughal!

    Adil Najam:

    http://pakistaniat.com/category/law-justice/

    Founding Editor: Adil Najam

    Managing Editor: Owais Mughal

  43. reflection Avatar
    reflection

    @ Dr. Jawwad,

    ATP ALL THINGS PAKITAN. The name change does'nt

    impress anyone, the material is speaking itself !!

    same style,

    same arguments,

    same, base,

    same fitnah,

    same references,

    same topics,

    same chamchagiri of US.

    same defamation of personalites like Maudoodi

    same distortion style

    the above is called "Aamir Mughal Chughtai "

    Danial Burki called me ISLAMIST, I felt deep

    emotions to be called such an honourable title,

    Alhamdollillah, I can't express my gratitude !

    Danial Burki has tried his failed-best to hide

    behind " Atheism " he is a secular to his bones and

    a devoted Islam-basher like you.

  44. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    You are an Islamist and I'm glad you liked the label!

    How am I 'hiding behind' atheism? And when have I tried to hide my secularism or my dislike for all religions (not just Islam)?

    So then how am I hiding? How have I bashed Islam alone?

    Heh, read my posts before spewing such nonsense, Dr Jawwad.

  45. Muhammad Tariq Avatar
    Muhammad Tariq

    It has been proved that MQM is right. These stupid so called islamic fighter are not heading towards islamabad. who is responsible for all this. now every party those who have passed this shaira bill in the assembly now start feeling fear from their activites and advances. What sufi muhammad is saying now that he will implement this nizam in all of the pakistan. who will stop them as our army has failed in the sawat.