Guest Post by Ahmad Nadeem Gehla
I have no experience of dealing with dictators or even their sons. Our generation however witnessed the brutality of former dictator Zia ul Haq against media, civil society, poets, writers and political workers. It has been two decades since former dictator burned in skies and things have changed drastically. Media and information technology has not only made information easily available but also developed a culture of civilized debate. The civil society has reorganized itself and has shown that it can stand firm against dictators during lawyer’s movement.
What has not changed is the mind set of dictator’s sons and their cronies. We are witnessing the retired generals and brigadiers coming to electronic media with revelations and defending their unconstitutional acts. Similarly, the ‘general’s sons’ turned politicians are not behind retired officers. They leave no opportunity to arrogantly defend their much hated fathers terming them martyrs and holy warriors. In a similar effort Ijaz ul Haq, a former parliamentarian and son of a former dictator Zia ul Haq tried to proved ZA Bhutto an executed leader and his own father a holy warrior and ‘Shaheed in an article published in ‘Daily News”.
I sent a letter to Editor of ‘The News” expressing my views, it was published today as under; “This is with reference to Muhammad Ijaz ul Haq’s article “A conspiracy against my father” (Sept 8). General Zia’s son seems to live in the past, otherwise he would not have distorted facts. In a country which has millions of internet users information is just a click away. It is quite hypocritical of him to say that Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was an ‘executed leader’. I wish Mr Haq had courage to realise and acknowledge that the same execution made his father one of the most hated persons of this country. The truth is that General Zia gave this country its Kalashnikov culture and the blood-thirsty Taliban.
The response I received from Mr. Ijaz ul Haq was shocking as one cannot expect such language being used by a man who has been a Member of Parliament for over a decade. It states as under; ” For you he should be hanged twice over for killing prof. Nazir Shaheed and Khawaja Rafiq and people like you are shitting all over and look what NRO prof are doing to our country. Sick people like you are all over. – Ijaz ul Haq. Sent via BlackBerry from Mobilink” mi****@mobilink.blackberry.com
To what level the general’s arrogant sons turned ‘test tube leaders’ can fall is not difficult to judge from his response and language used. Mr. Ijaz ul Haq seems unable to come out of dictator’s mindset and show a little civilized behavior towards critics of his father’s hypocritical dark regime. This is undeniable that the mess we are in as a society is gift of Zia ul Haq. It is also a fact that no other person in Pakistan is hated as much Mr. Ijaz ul Haq’s father. But the former parliamentarian while living in denial is not only to deny facts but feel comfortable to use curses against critics of his traitor father who worked and died as an imperial agent. He not only destroyed the secular and tolerant culture of our society but bread extremism from which Mr. Ijaz ul Haq is also suffering today.
Once an American puppet that killed brutality every sane voice is being portrayed as a ‘holly warrior’ by an obedient son. The business empires built by sons of holy warrior are still unaccounted for and sources never declared. Even if his death was staged by CIA and Mosad as claimed by Ijaz ul Haq, it always happened to all imperial puppets around the world. Mard e Momen Junir has to get out of disillusion and recognize what people think about his hypocrite father. He also needs learns that how much society has transformed as such making speech more free than the standards set by his brutal father. He needs to spend some time with civilized people to learn how to take criticism and respond in a civilized manner. But then if he does so – he won’t be a true son of a hated dictator. It is again for us to realize and accept – the way the sons and cronies of dictators are!
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dont mind if i say that this is utterly non sense and ridiculous and totally biased.i thought this article is written by pro israel,islamophobic drawing room intellect of america, if the name of hassan rizvi askari wont be there. [dr jawwad khan]
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Charlie Wilson's War http://www.amazon.com/Charlie-Wilsons-War-Extraor… by George Crile during the so-called Afghan Jihad following things did happen;
He told Zia about his experience the previous year when the Israelis had shown him the vast stores of Soviet weapons they had captured from the PLO in Lebanon. The weapons were perfect for the Mujahideen, he told Zia. If Wilson could convince the CIA to buy them, would Zia have any problems passing them on to the Afghans? Zia, ever the pragmatist, smiled on the proposal, adding, Just don’t put any Stars of David on the boxes {Page 131-132}.
“He allowed a free hand to the CIA approved Wahabi Islamic doctrine to gain a firm foothold in Pakistan”
really ??? like whome??? wahabi is the term used by westerners for any mulim group who believe in jihad.taliban on the otherhand belong to deobandi school of thoughts
[dr jawwad khan]
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"Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan and bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to 10 September 2001", by Steve Coll, New York: Penguin
The motives of the White House and the CIA were shaped by the Cold War: a determination to kill as many Soviet soldiers as possible and the desire to restore some aura of rugged machismo as well as credibility that U.S. leaders feared they had lost when the Shah of Iran was overthrown. The CIA had no intricate strategy for the war it was unleashing in Afghanistan. Howard Hart, the agency's representative in the Pakistani capital, told Coll that he understood his orders as: "You're a young man; here's your bag of money, go raise hell. Don't fuck it up, just go out there and kill Soviets." These orders came from a most peculiar American. William Casey, the CIA's director from January 1981 to January 1987, was a Catholic Knight of Malta educated by Jesuits. Statues of the Virgin Mary filled his mansion, called "Maryknoll," on Long Island. He attended mass daily and urged Christianity on anyone who asked his advice. Once settled as CIA director under Reagan, he began to funnel covert action funds through the Catholic Church to anti-Communists in Poland and Central America, sometimes in violation of American law. He believed fervently that by increasing the Catholic Church's reach and power he could contain Communism's advance, or reverse it. From Casey's convictions grew the most important U.S. foreign policies of the 1980s – support for an international anti-Soviet crusade in Afghanistan and sponsorship of state terrorism in Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Guatemala.
Casey knew next to nothing about Islamic fundamentalism or the grievances of Middle Eastern nations against Western imperialism. He saw political Islam and the Catholic Church as natural allies in the counter-strategy of covert action to thwart Soviet imperialism. He believed that the USSR was trying to strike at the U.S. in Central America and in the oil-producing states of the Middle East. He supported Islam as a counter to the Soviet Union's atheism, and Coll suggests that he sometimes conflated lay Catholic organizations such as Opus Dei with the Muslim Brotherhood, the Egyptian extremist organization, of which Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's chief lieutenant, was a passionate member. The Muslim Brotherhood' s branch in Pakistan, the Jamaat-e-Islami, was strongly backed by the Pakistani army, and Coll writes that Casey, more than any other American, was responsible for welding the alliance of the CIA, Saudi intelligence, and the army of General Mohammed Zia-ul-Haq, Pakistan's military dictator from 1977 to 1988. On the suggestion of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) organization, Casey went so far as to print thousands of copies of the Koran, which he shipped to the Afghan frontier for distribution in Afghanistan and Soviet Uzbekistan. He also fomented, without presidential authority, Muslim attacks inside the USSR and always held that the CIA's clandestine officers were too timid. He preferred the type represented by his friend Oliver North.
Over time, Casey's position hardened into CIA dogma, which its agents, protected by secrecy from ever having their ignorance exposed, enforced in every way they could. The agency resolutely refused to help choose winners and losers among the Afghan jihad's guerrilla leaders. The result, according to Coll, was that "Zia-ul-Haq's political and religious agenda in Afghanistan gradually became the CIA's own." In the era after Casey, some scholars, journalists, and members of Congress questioned the agency's lavish support of the Pakistan-backed Islamist general Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, especially after he refused to shake hands with Ronald Reagan because he was an infidel. But Milton Bearden, the Islamabad station chief from 1986 to 1989, and Frank Anderson, chief of the Afghan task force at Langley, vehemently defended Hekmatyar on the grounds that "he fielded the most effective anti-Soviet fighters."
really ??? like whome??? wahabi is the term used by westerners for any mulim group who believe in jihad.taliban on the otherhand belong to deobandi school of thoughts
[dr jawwad khan]
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Riyadh's new envoy just the US ticket By Giuseppe Anzera
Middle East Aug 19, 2005 asia times
Background of Prince Turki
Born on February 15, 1945 (the very day on which King Abdul Aziz al-Saud and US President Franklin Roosevelt met on board the USS Quincy and agreed on the "enduring relationship" that has linked the United States and Saudi Arabia up to the present day), at age 14 Turki was sent to boarding school in Lawrenceville, New Jersey. He subsequently enrolled at Georgetown University in the same year as future president Bill Clinton, but left before graduating and then completed his studies by obtaining a degree from Oxford, England. His father, King Faisal, had reigned over Saudi Arabia from 1964 until his murder in 1975. Prince Turki's career has been pursued mostly within the General Intelligence Directorate (GID), Riyadh's main intelligence service, which he headed from 1977 to 2001.
His stint at the GID, which came almost by chance due to the need to maintain a precarious balance of power among the various clans in the Saudi royal family, made him one of the longest lasting and authoritative intelligence chiefs in the world. Under Turki's leadership, the GID transformed into a modern intelligence service; as a member of the Safari Club (which brought together the intelligence chiefs of France, Morocco, Egypt, Arabia and Iran in an anti-Soviet effort during Washington's difficult Watergate phase), he exerted a determinant influence on Afghani events following the Soviet invasion of 1979.
From 1980 onward, Turki committed the GID to the task of providing financial support for the mujahideen war effort against the Soviets, channeling vast amounts of funding to Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), subsidizing jihadis from all over the Middle East who wanted to participate in the anti-communist crusade, and assisting the efforts that the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was starting to make in the same direction.
The impact of Turki's influence determined who was to prevail among the Afghan leaders; his funding laid the foundations for the Islamic volunteer groups who fought in Afghanistan (giving rise to the formation of groups such as al-Qaeda) and enabled the ISI to attain such importance that it became a parallel government in Pakistan. It was Turki who made a deal with the CIA that Riyadh would supply the ISI with an amount equal to the funding provided by US intelligence, thus pouring huge sums of money onto the Afghan chessboard.
Turki had known Osama bin Laden since 1978; bin Laden became one of the linchpins of the GID's funding policy toward the ISI and anti-Soviet warfare in Afghanistan, and he met with Turki several times in Islamabad. Many years afterward, in 1998, when bin Laden had already become engaged in an anti-American crusade, Turki was responsible for requesting his extradition by Taliban leader Mullah Omar, but did not succeed in this task.
really ??? like whome??? wahabi is the term used by westerners for any mulim group who believe in jihad.taliban on the otherhand belong to deobandi school of thoughts
[dr jawwad khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
How would you explain this?
Hamid Karzai – He also served as deputy foreign minister [Pakistani Establishment Backed and concocted Afghan government] in the Afghan government from 1992 to 1994 after the mujahedeen defeated the Soviets. But he grew weary of the fierce infighting between rival Afghan factions and initially supported the Taliban, who tried to name him as their ambassador to the United Nations.
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Karzai was a member of the Mujahideen and took active part in driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion in the 1980s. The Mujahideen were secretly supplied and funded by the United States, and Karzai was a top contact for the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) at the time. He had close personal contact with CIA Director William Casey and George H. W. Bush, who was Vice President of the United States.
When the Taliban emerged in the 1990s, Karzai was at first one of their supporters but later he broke with them and refused to serve as their U.N. ambassador. However on August 20, 1998, after an attempt by the United States to kill Osama bin Laden with a cruise missile, Karzai praised the Taliban saying,
“ …there were many wonderful people in the Taliban.
Reference:
a b Marlowe, Ann (February 11, 2008). "Two Myths About Afghanistan", The Washington Post, p. A13. Retrieved on 2008-02-11. "On Aug. 20, 1998, the day the United States sent cruise missiles to kill Osama bin Laden, Karzai told The Post that "there were many wonderful people in the Taliban. …So he spent much of the fall offering to negotiate with Taliban chief Mohammad Omar and the vicious warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar."
The same Karzai and his mentor Zalmay Khalilzad were the ones who used to negotiate Oil Pipeline Deal on behalf of UNOCAL AND HALLIBURTON [M/S Dick Cheney and James Baker] with the Rampant Deobandi Mullahs of Talebans!
References
Ilene R. Prusher, Scott Baldauf, and Edward Girardet (June 10, 2002 edition). "Afghan power brokers" (HTML). pub. Retrieved on 2007-12-11. “Cool and worldly, Karzai is a former employee of US oil company Unocal – one of two main oil companies that was bidding for the lucrative contract to build an oil pipeline from Uzbekistan through Afghanistan to seaports in Pakistan – and the son of a former Afghan parliament speaker.”
Tom Turnipseed (January 10, 2002). "A Creeping Collapse in Credibility at the White House:" (HTML). counterpunch. Retrieved on 2007-12-11. “As reported in Le Monde, the new Afghan government's head, Hamid Karzai, formerly served as a UNOCAL consultant. Only nine days after Karzai's ascension, President Bush nominated another UNOCAL consultant and former Taliban defender, Zalmay Khalilzad, as his special envoy to Afghanistan.”
really ??? like whome??? wahabi is the term used by westerners for any mulim group who believe in jihad.taliban on the otherhand belong to deobandi school of thoughts
[dr jawwad khan]
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How would one explain this Saudi-Karzai talks with the Talibans and Iran's Role in Funding A Ferocious Jamat-e-Islami [Read Butcher] Gulbadin Hikmatyar. We are back to square one when USSR had left Afghanistan and these Afghan Mullah Mafia were at each others Throat from 1989 till 2001 i.e. 9/11 despites of the Fact that these Warlords had taken oath in Makkah for restoring peace but they didn't fulfill that promise and killed more Afghans than the Soviet Russia.
Same game is afoot again only the actors are changed earlier Saudi Government tried to make peace between those US/CIA/Pakistan Backed Afghan Warlords [Jamat-e-Islami/Muslim Brotherhood Gang] who fought USSR [1979-1989], then the very same Saudi Government supported and accepted the US CIA/Pakistani backed Deobandi Anarchy i.e. Taliban and the same Saudi Goverment helped the US to destroy the very same Taliban after 9/11 because as per a book [Steve Coll's Ghost Wars] Mullah Omar allegedly misbehaved with Prince Turki Al Faisal [Saudi Intelligence Chief] before US attack on Afghanistan in 2001 because Prince had ordered Mullah Omar to withdraw Taliban support from Laden and Arab Gangs. Even if that was not enough Irani Government was financing a JI/Muslim Brotherhood Butcher of Kabul i.e. Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.
I wonder if Taliban are to be restored to War than what was the need of so-much bloodshed in the name of War on Terror and that too when a Minister in Taliban government [1996-2001] as per BBC Report [mentioned below number 6, 7 and 8], had warned US [before 9/11] in advance that there was a threat of Terrorist Attack in USA. If the Peace Talk with the Taliban was to be held then what was the need to exploit the Cock and Bull Story that Mullah Omar used to have dreams having indications from Mohammad [PBUH] as to how to Impose Shariah, what was the need to exploit the alleged shirt of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] which was allegedly shown [instead of Bread and Peace] to poor and innocent Afghans by Mullah Omar and this Deobandi Anarchy Taliban to get their sympathy vote above all why dont even take the Holy Name of Islami Shariah when one is indulged in every kind of unscrupulous acts. Read and lament
1 – Karzai’s brother confirms presence at Saudi talks http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/10/top8.htm
2 – Taliban and Afghan officials break bread http://news.theage.com.au/world/taliban-and-afgha…
3 – S. Arabia brokering Kabul-Taliban talks: ‘Militia severs ties with Al Qaeda’ http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top2.htm
4 – US supports Taliban return to power By Anwar Iqbal http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top5.htm
5 – Hekmatyar protected by Iran, says Spanish radio http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top12.htm
6 – Taleban 'warned US of huge attack' by By Kate Clark – Former BBC correspondent in Kabul Saturday, 7 September, 2002, 09:48 GMT 10:48 UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2242594.stm
7 – Taleban minister's 'peace role' mystery Wednesday, 17 October, 2001, 17:15 GMT 18:15 UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1604691.stm
8 – Taleban 'turn on ex-minister' Last Updated: Tuesday, 21 October, 2003, 17:39 GMT 18:39 UK The hardline Islamic Taleban movement is reported to have disowned its former foreign minister in Afghanistan, Wakil Ahmad Mutawakil. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3209584.stm
really ??? like whome??? wahabi is the term used by westerners for any mulim group who believe in jihad.taliban on the otherhand belong to deobandi school of thoughts
[dr jawwad khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
How would you explain this?
How would one explain this Saudi-Karzai talks with the Talibans and Iran's Role in Funding A Ferocious Jamat-e-Islami [Read Butcher] Gulbadin Hikmatyar. We are back to square one when USSR had left Afghanistan and these Afghan Mullah Mafia were at each others Throat from 1989 till 2001 i.e. 9/11 despites of the Fact that these Warlords had taken oath in Makkah for restoring peace but they didn't fulfill that promise and killed more Afghans than the Soviet Russia.
Same game is afoot again only the actors are changed earlier Saudi Government tried to make peace between those US/CIA/Pakistan Backed Afghan Warlords [Jamat-e-Islami/Muslim Brotherhood Gang] who fought USSR [1979-1989], then the very same Saudi Government supported and accepted the US CIA/Pakistani backed Deobandi Anarchy i.e. Taliban and the same Saudi Goverment helped the US to destroy the very same Taliban after 9/11 because as per a book [Steve Coll's Ghost Wars] Mullah Omar allegedly misbehaved with Prince Turki Al Faisal [Saudi Intelligence Chief] before US attack on Afghanistan in 2001 because Prince had ordered Mullah Omar to withdraw Taliban support from Laden and Arab Gangs. Even if that was not enough Irani Government was financing a JI/Muslim Brotherhood Butcher of Kabul i.e. Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. I wonder if Taliban are to be restored to War than what was the need of so-much bloodshed in the name of War on Terror and that too when a Minister in Taliban government [1996-2001] as per BBC Report [mentioned below number 6, 7 and 8], had warned US [before 9/11] in advance that there was a threat of Terrorist Attack in USA.
If the Peace Talk with the Taliban was to be held then what was the need to exploit the Cock and Bull Story that Mullah Omar used to have dreams having indications from Mohammad [PBUH] as to how to Impose Shariah, what was the need to exploit the alleged shirt of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] which was allegedly shown [instead of Bread and Peace] to poor and innocent Afghans by Mullah Omar and this Deobandi Anarchy Taliban to get their sympathy vote above all why dont even take the Holy Name of Islami Shariah when one is indulged in every kind of unscrupulous acts. Read and lament
1 – Karzai’s brother confirms presence at Saudi talks http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/10/top8.htm
2 – Taliban and Afghan officials break bread http://news.theage.com.au/world/taliban-and-afgha…
3 – S. Arabia brokering Kabul-Taliban talks: ‘Militia severs ties with Al Qaeda’ http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top2.htm
4 – US supports Taliban return to power By Anwar Iqbal http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top5.htm
5 – Hekmatyar protected by Iran, says Spanish radio http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top12.htm
6 – Taleban 'warned US of huge attack' by By Kate Clark – Former BBC correspondent in Kabul Saturday, 7 September, 2002, 09:48 GMT 10:48 UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2242594.stm
7 – Taleban minister's 'peace role' mystery Wednesday, 17 October, 2001, 17:15 GMT 18:15 UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1604691.stm
8 – Taleban 'turn on ex-minister' Last Updated: Tuesday, 21 October, 2003, 17:39 GMT 18:39 UK The hardline Islamic Taleban movement is reported to have disowned its former foreign minister in Afghanistan, Wakil Ahmad Mutawakil. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3209584.stm
phewwww….
do these links prove any thing?
just two simple question!!!
why you hate jihadi forces?
i mean for the pakistani taliban(from which afghan taliban always distanced themselves) there is a valid reason for hate but for afghan taliban and jihadi forces who want to fight america??? do you have a reason for hating them?kindly share with us.
what will you do when you see that some rouge person with arms want to occupy your land expell you from your house and kill your family members??there could be two options:
1) you run away like chicken. or
2) you pick a weapon to fight.
my second question is why educated pakistanis hate second option?
but for afghan taliban and jihadi forces who want to fight america??? do you have a reason for hating them?kindly share with us.[dr jawwad khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
My reasons to hate these Afghan Warlords is as under:
How would one explain this Saudi-Karzai talks with the Talibans and Iran's Role in Funding A Ferocious Jamat-e-Islami [Read Butcher] Gulbadin Hikmatyar. We are back to square one when USSR had left Afghanistan and these Afghan Mullah Mafia were at each others Throat from 1989 till 2001 i.e. 9/11 despites of the Fact that these Warlords had taken oath in Makkah for restoring peace but they didn't fulfill that promise and killed more Afghans than the Soviet Russia.
Same game is afoot again only the actors are changed earlier Saudi Government tried to make peace between those US/CIA/Pakistan Backed Afghan Warlords [Jamat-e-Islami/Muslim Brotherhood Gang] who fought USSR [1979-1989], then the very same Saudi Government supported and accepted the US CIA/Pakistani backed Deobandi Anarchy i.e. Taliban and the same Saudi Goverment helped the US to destroy the very same Taliban after 9/11 because as per a book [Steve Coll's Ghost Wars] Mullah Omar allegedly misbehaved with Prince Turki Al Faisal [Saudi Intelligence Chief] before US attack on Afghanistan in 2001 because Prince had ordered Mullah Omar to withdraw Taliban support from Laden and Arab Gangs. Even if that was not enough Irani Government was financing a JI/Muslim Brotherhood Butcher of Kabul i.e. Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. I wonder if Taliban are to be restored to War than what was the need of so-much bloodshed in the name of War on Terror and that too when a Minister in Taliban government [1996-2001] as per BBC Report [mentioned below], had warned US [before 9/11] in advance that there was a threat of Terrorist Attack in USA.
If the Peace Talk with the Taliban was to be held then what was the need to exploit the Cock and Bull Story that Mullah Omar used to have dreams having indications from Mohammad [PBUH] as to how to Impose Shariah, what was the need to exploit the alleged shirt of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] which was allegedly shown [instead of Bread and Peace] to poor and innocent Afghans by Mullah Omar and this Deobandi Anarchy Taliban to get their sympathy vote above all why dont even take the Holy Name of Islami Shariah when one is indulged in every kind of unscrupulous acts.
1 – Taleban 'warned US of huge attack' by By Kate Clark – Former BBC correspondent in Kabul Saturday, 7 September, 2002, 09:48 GMT 10:48 UK
2 – Taleban minister's 'peace role' mystery Wednesday, 17 October, 2001, 17:15 GMT 18:15 UK
3 – Taleban 'turn on ex-minister' Last Updated: Tuesday, 21 October, 2003, 17:39 GMT 18:39 UK The hardline Islamic Taleban movement is reported to have disowned its former foreign minister in Afghanistan, Wakil Ahmad Mutawakil
"How would one explain this Saudi-Karzai talks with the Talibans and Iran's Role in Funding A Ferocious Jamat-e-Islami [Read Butcher] Gulbadin Hikmatyar"
hahahahahaha!!!
you again made me speechless.
how do you do that?
good job keep it up….
hahahahahaha!!! you again made me speechless. how do you do that? good job keep it up….[Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I have quoted the news reports, links are as under:
1 – Karzai’s brother confirms presence at Saudi talks
http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/10/top8.htm
2 – Taliban and Afghan officials break bread
http://news.theage.com.au/world/taliban-and-afgha…
3 – S. Arabia brokering Kabul-Taliban talks: ‘Militia severs
ties with Al Qaeda’ http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top2.htm
4 – US supports Taliban return to power By Anwar Iqbal
http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top5.htm
5 – Hekmatyar protected by Iran, says Spanish radio
http://www.dawn.com/2008/10/07/top12.htm
6 – Taleban 'warned US of huge attack' by By Kate Clark – Former BBC correspondent in Kabul Saturday, 7 September, 2002, 09:48 GMT 10:48 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2242594.stm
7 – Taleban minister's 'peace role' mystery Wednesday, 17 October, 2001, 17:15 GMT 18:15 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1604691.stm
8 – Taleban 'turn on ex-minister' Last Updated: Tuesday, 21 October, 2003, 17:39 GMT 18:39 UK The hardline Islamic Taleban movement is reported to have disowned its former foreign minister in Afghanistan, Wakil Ahmad Mutawakil.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3209584.stm
after loads of thinking and blood boiling my conclusion about Pakistan politics is all the top heads should be rounded up and put in the prison in THUR .So that they realise for once in their life what it is to be a poor Pakistani Person at a recieving end.
I do not blame the RULERS,apart from Zia we didnot resist anyone.
Our resistance to Zia was so weak that he still managed to rule us for Donkey years.If it was not for the conspiracy he would still be ruling us.
I have no doubts though Nawaz and Benazir both still have been the prime ministers under his Umbrella.
Musharraf had no chance under Zia.
Power is when YOU take it.Democracy is when people rule.
any Shrief Adami apart from Nawaz Shrief and co is afraid to rule or even the part of elite.
One has to have some rogue elements to survive or work with this Mafia of Generals and Civilians.
Apart from above analysis ,I do support Musharraf actions,I did prefer Benazir,i would like to see Imran getting more votes.
Bilawal is inevitable .He is a wish of people and demand of people let us see what he will bring in……
would it be again
Hussain NAWAZ
and
Bilawal BHUTTO.
Come on people let us stop voting.
The biggest shock I had being a muslim and believing in Islamic Brotherhood which is preached so strongly in our school and media curiculums,is that somehow Saudia is everywhere.
Previously I thought it is USA .but it is more of Saudi Arabia using USA.
Have Saudis got any think tanks or do they work on personal instincts of the Prince and Kings.
Saudia is the country run on best Corporate rules.Investors reap the reward and US and British make profits out of their investments.
Barter is blood ,again same old same old ,Shiattes,Sunnies,Waabies,enough conflicts
But than Saudi Kings have a personal feud with the King of the wars Osama so ,Afghanistan and Pakistan is a play ground for this war game.
IDENTITY CRISIS….BEWARE OF WANNABE ARABS..
Previously I thought it is USA .but it is more of Saudi Arabia using USA. Have Saudis got any think tanks or do they work on personal instincts of the Prince and Kings.[Farrah Shah]
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really ??? like whome??? wahabi is the term used by westerners for any mulim group who believe in jihad.[dr jawwad khan]
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Dear Ms Farrah Shah,
USA and Saudi Arabia used each other, watch this in the PBS Frontline Documentary [Complete History of US Saudi Relations] in the link below
Aal-e-Saud, USA and Wahabis!
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/aal-e-sa…
Victimization of Pakistan and Pakistan Army by Dictators.
Usually army personnel’s of any country are considered as the most devoted and trustworthy personnel of any Nation, as they have sworned for sacrificing their lives for their nation, their fore every one considered them highly selfless, as every thing will be safe and fair in their hands, in each and every condition, but in case of Pakistan the situation was reversed of this phenomena from the beginning of the Pakistan, Therefore it is necessary to analyze this situation so that to avoid any further damage to Pakistan.
Disobedience to Quaid-e-Azam.
When father of nation Quaid-e- Azam, in view of aggression of India in Kashmir, ordered that time Chief of Army, General David Douglas Gracey to counter that aggression, instead of following that order he replied that he will talk to Supreme Commander for this pupose, and avoided to counter the Indian Aggression, due to which Innocent people of Kashmir have to suffer a lot of, which they are suffering till today.
Death Penalty to Moulana. Moududi:-
Mr.Moududi, a religious scholar and Leader of Jammat-e-Islami was awarded death penalty by a military court, which clearly indicates that how much care and sensitivity to emotions of society these army Generals have.
Era of Ayoub.
Martial Law of 1958.
By implementing Martial Law in 1958,by Generals, Dreams of Muslims of subcontinent were buried under their boots, and irreparable loss to this nation occurred by those power lusty Generals, The Details of which are as follows.
Loss of status of a Democratic state.
Due to Implementation of Martial Law, Democratic rights of nation were lost, and Pakistan lost the status of a democratic nation, a right and status on the basis and principles of which Pakistan was created
Loss of status of a Nonaligned Nation.
Due to Military Generals and their lust for Military Packts, Pakistan was gone completely in USA camp, against Soviet Union, while in fact there was no conflict between Pakistan and Soviet Union, and Soviet Union was our neighboring country and was having Huge Muslims populations in its Central Asian states, it was very convenient by using these factors for developing strong and durable friendship with soviet Union, as that of China we have developed. Due to wrong policies of Military Generals, Soviet Union became enemy of Pakistan, and which later on proved very fatal.
Damage to Unity of Pakistan.
As per constitution of 1956, it was decided that each Province will be represented either by Prime Minister or President of the country. But General Ayoub violated this principle and ruled the country as a dictator for about 10 years, this created sense of deprivation in East Pakistan, for which 100 % Military Generals were responsible.
Advantages to India:
Military Dictator Ship in Pakistan and due to loss of status of a democratic state, these things were very favorable for India for damaging the Interest of subcontinent Muslims and Pakistan, and full advantage was taken by India of the foolish acts of Pakistani Generals.
• Being itself under Military Dictatorship, Pakistan demand for right of self determination for Kashmir was weakened.
• Although, Military Dictatorship in Pakistan was highly beneficial for India, India superficially showed as India is against dictatorship, to give impression to patriotic Pakistanis as Military Dictators were highly beneficial for Pakistan.
• By developing bad relationship with Pakistan, India kept at a distance its Muslims Population from developing any people to people contacts with Pakistan.
• By developing good relationship with Russia, India forced Afghanistan not to develop close relationship with Pakistan.
• India used Hindu minority and ethnocentric Bengalese of East Pakistan as their lever, for making propaganda for Bengali Language and Economic and Political Exploitation of Bengalese by West Pakistani Generals.
For promoting Indian agenda on above mentioned points, Foolish Generals of Pakistan Army in fact helped India in its conspiracy to divide Muslims of subcontinent and to harm Pakistan as much as possible.
War of 1965.
Due to Military Dictator ship, India instead of giving right of self determination to People of Kashmir, selected to take the advantage of non democratic government in Pakistan, therefore tried to use military force to solve that problem for ever, although desire of Kashmiri and Pakistani nation to liberate the Kashmir was very high, but due to military dictatorship in the country it was impossible for Pakistan to gain any thing by that conflict.
India was a six times larger country than Pakistan, due to being only single huge nation for Hindues,it was quite clear that its Hindu population will be highly motivated and devoted for the defense and interest of India, therefore in such situation it was completely out of question to liberate Kashmir with any military operation, therefore decision of liberation of Kashmir by war in 1965 was completely against the wisdom and knowledge of warfare, by that war Pakistan economy was seriously damaged and useless loss of army personnel’s and equipments was occurred .
Incapability of Dictators.
In 1965 war when with the sacrifices of Pakistani soldiers Indian defense line was totally broken, and Kashmir valley was laying in front of Pakistani army, Dictators again failed to show their competitiveness and confidence and instead of moving forward they stopped the army forward movement. Which resulted in the wastage of sacrifices of soldiers and Pakistani nation.
Transfer of Power 1968.
General Ayoub instead of handing over power to Speaker of National Assembly handed over power to another General by this he showed no respect for his oath for sacrificing his life for nation, as a compromise for his life he surrendered to other Generals.
Era of Yahya Khan.
Dictator Yahya Khan was well known as a loose character man, his era is full of highest victimization of Pakistani nation and Army, it is sometimes thought that government of Pakistan was handed over to this man just to penalize to Pakistani nation by Dictator Ayoub, Because it is completely unpredictable that how this man was able to become the president of an Islamic nation, this is a mystery till today. Some blunders of Yahya Khan are as follows,
Constitution Assembly Elections 1970:-
In the presence of 1956 and 1962 constitutions and against the advice of intellectuals of the nation that it will be very difficult to develop a new constitution for the country, elections were hold by this dictator for new constitution which led the country to an unprecedented crisis.
Inability to handle the crisis after elections:
After elections politicians of the country failed to reach on any consensus on new constitution as forecasted already by the intellectuals, Dictator Yahya Khan instead of persuading them to reach on some type of consensus, tried to use the policy of divide and rule for the perpetuation of his own rule and for this he had to find some reasons for which he had not to wait so long.
Incapability of understanding to Enemy.
• Dictator Yahya totally failed to understand the policy of India based on from first day of creation of Pakistan that how to create disunity among Muslims.
• On the basis of this policy
• India kept Indian Muslims at a distance from Pakistan by treating Pakistan as an enemy country.
• India created bad relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
• India created bad relations between Pakistan and Soviet Union so that Pakistan could not develop again their historical relations with central Asians Muslims.
In 1970 elections Indian RAW was main instrument, which was mainly responsible for cultivation of hatred between West and East Pakistan, But Dictator Yahya failed to comprehend this policy of India.
Indian Tactics:
In the final stages of Indian policy to create disunity among Muslims, India used its agents for irritating Dictator Yahya and Government of Pakistan, so that in response to such irritation ,Dictator like Yahya will do some highly irresponsible and uncharacteristic acts such as military actions or any other sever reaction ,which will be very fruitful for Indian design.
To irritate Dictator Yahya following acts were done by Indians agents in East Pakistan.
• Burning of Pakistan Flags.
• Burning of Quaid-e-Azam Effigy.
• Killing of Urdu Speaking Muslim refugees from India.
• Killing of soldiers and investors of West Pakistan.
• Refusal to accept the writ of Federal Government.
All these acts were being done by Indians agents to deteriorate the situation more and more, it was the responsibility of Yahya to understand the tactics of India, as the Main representative of East Pakistan Mr. Sheikh Mujib Rehman also showed his disgust about such irritating acts. But instead of taking the help of Mr. Mujib, Dictator Yahya did the uncharacteristic act of Military Action, and by a military court Death Penalty was awarded to Mr. Mujib. Which was in fact the ultimate desire of India for creating the opportunity of century for damaging the interests of Muslims of subcontinent.
Failure of Yahya as a competent General.
It was the responsibility of Dictator Yahya being military personnel to understand that
• East Pakistan was situated 1000 miles away from West Pakistan and was surrounded by India from all sides even in the absence of any crisis it was not possible to defend that area for a very long time against India,
• Moreover India was not only a regional Super power but was also having support of a world super power Soviet Union, Even today it will be a matter of few hours for India to run over on Bangladesh.
• Being a military personnel it was his responsibility to understand that if any military personnel will be expelled from his job, he will directly go to enemy side just for his survival, therefore expulsion of local army Personnel’s in East Pakistan was just a blunder on the part of a Military Dictator.
• Being military personnel it was his responsibility to understand that any war can not be win without support of main stream and especially when the opposite side is fighting for any national, traditional, cultural or religious goals.
• Being a military Dictator it was his responsibility to understand that West Pakistani Military who were defending the East Pakistan were having no serious interest in that region, nor their families neither their any state property was there, therefore it was totally unjustified to force soldiers of West Pakistan to flow their blood and to sacrifice their lives for a province which was having no shortage of population, but infact was the largest province of Pakistan.
• Therefore it was the responsibility of local population to defend that area, but dictator Yahya who was belonging from the smallest Frontier Province of Pakistan, made no effort to win the heart and soul of people of that area, in fact defense of East Pakistan was in the population of that province and not in the defense of West Pakistan.
• During War of 1971 he was not attending the meeting in war room, and at the time of surrender he was not available for communication with General Niazi and Neither with USA government, which clearly shows that how much competent and devoted General he was.
• Even after surrender of the Army in East Pakistan this dictator was not ready to leave the post of President and Chief of Army Staff, which clearly indicates that these dictators gives how much importance to their personnel interest and how much deaf and blind are these dictators as far as interest of nation is concerned.
• Due to conflict, all development made in previous 20 years was lost, Military and economic infrastructure was destroyed by India and army Hardware was also looted by India, This is the reason that even today Bangladesh is the least developed country, and number of its defense forces are even less than those of soldiers of Pakistan which were gone in the prison of India.
• Due to blunders of Dictator Yahya, Pakistani nation which was the best model in the history of mankind representing universal brother hood between two equal parts of population separated by a distance of thousand miles were separated, it took few months in separation of these two parts, but in future for very long time no country of the world will be able to present such model of Human brotherhood on the map of the world.
Era of General Zia.
Disasters in the era of General Zia.
Democracy
Mr.Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who was enjoying two third Majority in National Assembly and was creator of 1973 constitution was hanged under the death, just to ensure that by this Zia Dictatorship will remain without any challenge, but in violence in reaction to this act , resulted in deaths of army personnel’s and civilians and law and order situation was deteriorated in the province of Sindh, and to counter that situation an ethnocentric party was created by this dictator, which created so much violence in the city of Karachi, and there is still so much disharmony between different sections of society in the city of Karachi.
Afghanistan:
Due to dictator ship in Pakistan and Islamic revolution in Iran, Soviet Union by taking the advantage of situation invaded the Afgahnistan, from where starts the long voyage of pains and deaths which is still continue.
Siachian:
Siachian was lost to India, while it was the main responsibility of dictator to defend the physical boundaries of the country first, later on so many soldiers lost their life in defending this glacier which was lost in the era of Zia
During Zia Dictatorship, democratic rights of citizens were violated, and severe punishments were given to people demanding restoration of constitution, and use of narcotics and Kalashnikov culture infected the society like an epidemic.
Era of Musharaf.
KARGIL WAR.
Even before becoming the dictator, just for lust of his personnel fame, he was responsible for the adventure of Kargil war, which was having following draw backs.
• As both India and Pakistan were nuclear armed at the time of Kargil war, it was simply foolish idea for staging such an adventure.
• In case of extension of Kargil war, even the survival of both India and Pakistan were at stake, because in nuclear war no one will be victorious.
• Kargil war has given the message to world as Pakistan was interested in the land of Kargil and not in the liberation of Kashmiri peoples.
• It was told to the world as Mujahideen are acting in Kargil while infact they were the personnel of Pakistan army, and in fact it was great betrayal with those soldiers who were officially sent by their Generals in Kargil.
• As a General Pervez Musharaf failed to take the help of Air force, which also indicates that how much capable General was he.
• In Kargil Pakistan army personnel who were denied even by their Generals as their soldiers, were fighting against two forces of India i.e. Indian army and Indian Air force, it was a simple analysis that it will be impossible for one force to win a war against two forces. Which clearly indicates, that General Musharaf was not well aware of the basics of warfare?
• Pervez Musharaf was solely responsible for the deaths and injuries to soldiers in this conflict and damage and malignment of the nation due to his foolish adventure just for his personnel fame.
Musharaf Dictatorship.
After Kargil expecting that he could be court martialled for his misdeed, Therefore by violating the best interest of the nation when enemies of Pakistan were waiting for opportunities to overthrow Taliban rule in Afghanistan, and to annihilate Kashmir libration movement and to surgically remove nuclear arms of Pakistan, by having no care of the above mentioned interests of the nation ,this dictator staged the coup against a Prime Minister who was having two third majority in the parliament, at that time only a civilian government was in best position to solve all above challenges but foolish dictators were having no care of interests of the nation.
Kashmir;
Due to Dictator Ship in Pakistan, liberation movement in Kashmir was seriously damaged; more dust was poured on that weakening movement by foolish suggestions of this dictator. This is the reason that even after giving so much sacrifices, still Kashmiries are waiting for freedom.
Damage to Integrity of Pakistan:
As the survival of any nation depends on the basic ideology of that nation, as Pakistan was created on the name of Islam and for the welfare of Muslim populations of Different areas, but this dictator was having no respect for the traditional, religious. Democratic
and justice values of society, he was not in line with the mentality and thinking of the nation, nation was thinking in one direction and he was having mind of opposite direction, which caused serious damage to unity and integrity of Pakistani nation.
War against Afghanistan:
After 9/11 When he was waiting for help of USA for strengthening his dictatorship, he helped those enemies of Pakistan who were having desire to overthrow Islamic Government of Afghanistan, while in fact that was a golden opportunity for convincing to USA and world that solution to the problem of extremism in Afghanistan should be left to both governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan, and at other hand it was a convenient opportunity for creating a union between Pakistan and Afghanistan for countering terrorism for the purpose of avoiding the war in the region. but due to his dictatorship these goals were not possible, specially when India the main enemy of Muslim unity in South Asia pressurized Pakistan, by giving unnatural offer of Air bases in India to USA for aggression against Afghanistan while in fact by this offer it was not possible for USA to attack Afghanistan, by this offer, India just aim was to force Pakistan to become an ally of USA against Afghanistan, so that a hatred may be created between Pakistan and Afghanistan, This foolish General was unable to comprehend this policy of India, due to which so much civilian atrocities are going on in this region even today and this region has become the most destabilized region of the world.
War against Afghanistan was opposed by civilian, military intellectuals, Corps Commanders and people of Pakistan, but dictator was having no care about that. and was interested in his personnel interest
War against Afghanistan has caused a huge destruction in Afghanistan and large number of Pakistani civilians and military personnel’s have been killed.
Destruction of Pakistan.
War against a neighbor Muslim country, has seriously damaged Pakistan Islamic Ideology, and it is simple that without adherence to ideology, no country in the world can survive, this is the reason that now Pakistan is facing serious problem in each and every sphere of life, Institutions of Government and Military, Parliament and Judiciary are now facing serious problems as all these pillars of state have been seriously damaged by dictatorial policies.
Damage to Army:
Due to operations against its own population, Pakistan Army has lost all support of people, this is the reason that due to policies of this dictator, daily so many soldiers and Police personnel’s are loosing their lives, Instead of protecting and helping to each other, Army and people of Pakistan are cutting throats of each other, Due to operation in FATA, Balouchistan, and operation of Lal Mosque, serious damage to image of army has occurred. This dictator did not know that only relation and link between different areas and sections of people of Pakistan is that of Islam, All energy and motivation of Pakistani nation comes from Islam, without that even survival of Pakistan is simply impossible, but this dictator was having no care of that, This is the reason that army and security forces have lost all motivation, and anti social elements are committing freely their crimes.
Damage to Judicial system:
This under graduate General has caused serious damage to Judicial system of Pakistan, He was not knowing that in history when a dictator throw away any judge on street due to fair practices of justice then that Judge becomes the greatest judge of history, In Karachi on 12-05-2007,so many civilians were killed just to damage and abuse the
Judicial system of Pakistan.
Damage to Parliament:
This dictator for the lust of power in 1999 removed a prime minister who was having Two Third majority in Parliament and a fake referendum was held to validate his dictatorship in which he showed that he was having support of 98 % of people, while in fact in history even in a single constituency of Pakistan it is simply not possible for any candidate to win so much support. He re-elected himself as a president for next five years, being a government employee wearing Military Uniform, while as per Pakistan constitution it is not allowed to compete elections being in job of Government, moreover from a parliament which already has elected him president once, and was going to complete its life just in next few months.
Conclusion: From all above analysis it is clear that running of the country should be done by those who are specially trained for that purpose otherwise Military Generals, who are trained just to kill or destroy the enemy, when they come to the power they do the same thing with their nation and they are very fond of wars and very interested in show of power with guns, such type of people may be very dangerous for the nation, army and world at large. It is also the responsibility of Army as an institution to clarify that why so much conveniently it becomes obedient to such rogue dictators.
Written By M.Akram Khan.
Karachi,Pakistan
E.Mail :akrumniazi@hotmail.com
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