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Intolerance in The Name of Religion

After Lahore blast, people will give you different reasons for the blasts; they will say that it is Pakistan and America’s fault; America and Pakistan trained these people earlier to fight against Soviets, and now they have turned against both; they will say these people have nothing to do with Islam, and Islam is a peaceful religion; they will say these people do not represent Islam. May be it is true. But somehow, somewhere religion is involved, and one can not deny that–hence, these savage killers believe that they are just about to meet 71 virgins after committing mass murder. They are doing all this in the name of God, the most compassionate, the most merciful; whether with his approval or without.

It is not just one particular religion, most religious people, whether belonging to Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism or Islam, are different from people, who let’s say have very casual attitude towards religion or do not believe in God at all. Here in USA, I have personally experienced, the more religious a person is, it is more likely that person would hate certain “others”. In the case of Christian religious fanatics in USA, they have long list of people whom they hate, but these days mainly Muslims.

In the case of Islamic fanatics, they have long list as well, in fact Islamic fanatic hate almost every other religion, every other religion is their enemy, be it Christians, Jews, Hindus. In the case of Pakistani fanatics, the situation very strange, the only other culture they seem to like is Chinese, who don’t even have a religion. A Pakistani fanatic would prefer a Chinese over a Shia or an Ahmedi without blinking his eyes.

The more religious you are; it is more likely that you fail to accept or tolerate any other belief, but yours. This is where missionary zeal leads people to fight it out with others. Some religions seem to have more of it than others. Almost all the wars were, and are being fought to advance religion, or in the name of religion.

Few years ago, I was talking to my uncle, who is very religious person himself. He mentioned that how he admires Hitler, and if only Hitler had stayed in power few more years, all the Jews would have been wiped out from this earth. It really got me thinking, and I asked him, do you mean all? He said, yes, all, because all Jews are horrible people. I asked him again, what about countless little babies, few days, months or years old? What crime those little kids committed, for which they were killed, assuming that may be adults did something wrong, because they at least had the chance to do it. He had no answer. It seems like religious hate and zeal completely blinds people of any rationality.

The most hated people in religious philosophy are those who do not believe at all; Atheist/ Liberals etc. But who do Atheists/Liberals hate? If you are an immigrant in USA, having different religion and culture, the only people who fully accept you wholeheartedly without any judgment are the ones who don’t believe in God. It is an important question to ask, why believers of God are so full of hate and non-believers so full of compassion and understanding? Why so much killing in the name of most compassionate, most merciful.?


43 Comments

  • Aisha |

    Actually, my experience was quite different. The people from whom I experienced greatest acceptance in the US were people of faith, from religions other than Islam. To be fair, most of the non-believers I came across were courteously tolerant of my faith. But because, as you say, there is a difference between people who believe in God and religion, and people who don't, there was always a slight barrier.

    I recently met one of my American friends. Fifteen years had passed since we last met, but both of us immediately felt at home, and discussed that the search for the Divine crosses cultures and religions, and is a pretty universal human yearning.

    So yes, there are many religious people who are extremely intolerant. But by no means all. And atheists can often be just as intolerant of the religious as any religious zealot.

  • guY-sir |

    Hello halluci-Nations

    I think we all have been ensnared in a various different kind of debts on top is financial debt. If u dig-deeper, you'll notice that there's a "hidden-hand" behind all Catastrophes who do nothin but sponsor both sides and create conflicts between two's, media ballyhoo for both sides and in last create wars in order to gain profit from Carnage.

    This Carnage is derive from Capitalism and Communism both C derive from Cabalism and they invest heavily on their various cartels of cartel and their power-politics and let distracted us by Entertainment, Sports, Drugs, Porn, Toys and Trivia.

    There's nothin gonna go about our present predicament and we'll have to pay da huge price beyond your imagination which you'll never be able to pay here and hereafter both.

    I got another way for our present plight but it has a price I know you can't pay nowadays but i ain't askin money unlike our pols rather asking Reign. Many of you who visited my blog and read my profile must know I do not belong to any political party because I have got my own rule and wanna rule the wOrld and wanna make you happy-Nations instead of halluci-Nations.

    Can you pay the price.? Ever since Obama become president I leave watching TV because his face and his wife face creates puke to me and i really don't like their feces like faces well do you know they are makin you coprophagous countries?

    Become clean instead of unclean, become holy instead of unholy. I can make you, I have a way for our quandary and predicament . Don't you wanna get out from present-predicament.? Or wanna remain unclean and unholy which makes you halluci-Nations.
    http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

  • guY-sir |

    Was Abraham father's god similar like Abraham God himself? No, not at all. They were differ that's where Monotheism came into being in shape of Trinity.

    1. Judaism, (Torah) Jews were 1st chosen folks of Yahweh became the favorite nation of Satan who took 'em with him for world materialistic domination.
    http://www.666blacksun.com/Main.html

    2. Christianity (Bible) Christians a hip-hop chums of Jews became victims of Jewish black magic spell and many of you declared Jesus a son of God none but unforgivable sin. Its called secularism = satanism (Jesus birth itself was a test for you but many got failed in this test)
    http://www.666blacksun.com/Xianity_communism.html

    3. Islam (Quran) Finally, last monotheism on the face of the earth in shape of BooKoran, which accepted and admits previous messengers like Moses and Jesus and also said that OT/NT were sent towards 'em by God but it doesn't encourage anyone to read because God didn't promise to guard these books many words of 'em turned secular instead of sacred. whereas God Himself promised to guard BooKoran and says it will always remain sacred instead of secular…
    http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Isla

    (NOTE: This is Satan view against Islam. No devoted Muslim should believe but I gave link to you to understand what He Satan thinks for Islam and its Followers)

    The Quran is living and linguistic miracle, giving history of the past, predicting future, giving social-justice, telling whatever between the earth how its created, men&women their relationship b4 marriage and after marriage and the financial issues, etc for whole of Mankind..

    In short, Shitte and Sunni doesn't have a same belief and poses very different way of style and i feel it was a satanic conspiracy against Islam soon after last prophet demised in order to stop Islam and create sordid-schism and merge all religions in order to negate them ALL and show them dream of materialism instead monotheism.

    Regarding west, I guess they all are totally secular which means satanic, It is the bitter truth dig-deeper you may get the Truth. Let me explain

    You cannot be sacred by being secular. We sunni Muslims wanna be sacred and wanna die sacred instead of secular aka satanists. If we became satanist then Monotheism will be vanished and there's only Satan whom you serve and he will give you nothin but recession, depression, depravity, internal conflicts, external issues, wars, genocide, sodomy, drugs and love of materialistic things and in last it will lead you towards the hell where He satan actually belongs, in closing I just wanna say that it is Secularism and Monotheism fight which is bad for everyone.

  • Nadir El-Edroos |

    Hitler idolizing has become endemic. The shocking pictures of burqa clad women with banners "God save Hitler" are perhaps actions more out of ignorance rather than actual knowledge. For one had Hitler one the war the British Raj in India would have been replaced by the Third Reich. India and the Pakistan movement owe its foundations to the scores of lawyers and politicians who were able to develop their political identity and claim representative powers from the British based on their success in local government and provincial elections. In many ways these very British institutions contributed to the successful independence movement. Under the third Reich’s rule all of this would not have happened.

    Given Hitler’s fascination with the Aryan race and racial superiority the peoples of the sub-continent would have had to face mass near enslavement. There is no evidence to suggest that the Muslim world would have been any better had succeeded?

    The example of Germany between the wars is prudent because religion is easy to hate. Germany needed someone to blame for its economic misery and they blamed the Jews. We today need to blame someone for the bombs that go off so we like all those people before us who fail to take responsibility for their actions conveniently hate members of other religions.

    Though I wont agree that Chinese don’t believe in God. While a the Chinese Communist Party officially frowns upon religion many Chinese practice Christianity, Taosim, Bhuddasim, Islam etc. Especially immigrants in the US who tend to be 2nd or third generation from the Southern Provinces. Perhaps as they are not confrontational we as a society do not feel threatened by them? Perhaps we are also ignorant of the brutal subjugation by the Chinese Communist Party of Muslims in China – but well as long as China is helping us out we don’t criticize them.

    Liberals however can be religious. The idea here that liberalism and religion don’t go hand in hand is perhaps an over simplification. While Atheism and agnosticism etc are strands of various sorts. Liberals and libertarians may be religious themselves but what they are against is the imposition of religious doctrine on their lives by the state, society or other external factors.

    Muslim immigrants may relate more to core bible built values because of shared values. Anti-abortion and anti-gay values for example are common. It may just be more comfortable to interact with individuals who share such important values which are the core of our identity.

  • guY-sir |

    Obama gotta Nobel Peace Prize. What a hallucination.? What peace he has bring to the wOrld rather he seems to go for nuclear inferno. They have lost war in Iraq and in Afghanistan despite there lots of ballyhoo about their sole-power and mighty force they bring it up against followers of Islam.

    Talibans had nothing to do with 9/11 as Eric Margolis mentioned in his many previous articles who wrote

    Talibans were pretty good rulers and there was no havoc during their reined neither any Opium production but since UNato invaded Afghanistan Opium production is 91% HIGH and HAVOC DO NOT ASK. This is Eric Margolis views one of the courageous Journalist I have ever read on war-related and political issues in dis wOrld. He also said that all the terrorism is the reaction of US/UNato bombardment in tribal areas and they ain't a terrorists as falsely proclaimed by Bush/Obama, Mush/Zardari.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis118.h

    He's among my fav's. Where I gotta praised of my comments in 05. 1.Unique, 2.Insightful, 3.Poetic. (All Praised due to Allah not because of America)

    Talibans only fault was that they didn't handover UBL to USA when she demanded them to give him without any proof. After almost a decade they didn't eradicate real terror rather become themselves a totalitarian-terrorists and killed large numbers of innocent civilians in our countries.
    http://www.ericmargolis.com/political_commentarie

    They are acting like "corrupt gods" of the universe while they actually are "cowardly-caddish" who are now seeking to throw nuclear bombs on our heads to eradicate Terrorism.
    http://www.ericmargolis.com/political_commentarie

    Look around US congress, who runs their foreign policies, who runs their interior ministries, who runs their defense strategies?.. You'll find all those who are anti-God, anti-Christ, anti-Environmental, anti-Muslims, anti-all of Humanity.

    They are waging war on humanity without any cause. Look WW1-2, Vietnam war and Japan atom bombs who started all these wars. Did Muslims start them all.?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-margolis/lets-

    Now they invent Muslims threat when they finished to re-engineered Europe, Russia, Vietnam even USA to serve their [malevolent agenda]. Now they're bombarding on us.

    Muslims blood is water and their blood is blood. Just look around US/UNato army none but 'amoral army'. I just read sumwhere that one p*star has visited Iraq at US base camps where she stayed for a while many times in a year and they your army men keep her photo in their pockets for masturb….. during her absence. This is your army in a least amoral-army. Furthermore, your own army women who are being victims of gang rape from their own army men..Is this moral or amoral army? Will they bring peace or piiss in this world.?
    http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/01/26/13rd-of-wome

    Obama is control by the same invisible-force aka hidden-hands who controlled Bush-admin. He can get peace award in medal only but never will able to bring peace in reality. Our lives and future never looks bleaker ever before. Wake up from your slumber and overthrow your govts and demand them to stop gratuitous war and seek salvation. Jesus won't save you. He will surely come back but he will save only those who are righteous of either side and you must look in your chests either are you righteous or rascals?

    Henry Kissinger once cynically noted: "Being an American ally is more dangerous than being its enemy."

    Our rulers, they all sold their souls to the devil and they know it. Death On Them $Debaucher$ Death On Them

  • Nadir El-Edroos |

    Hitler idolizing has become endemic. The shocking pictures of burqa clad women with banners "God save Hitler" are perhaps actions more out of ignorance rather than actual knowledge. For one had Hitler one the war the British Raj in India would have been replaced by the Third Reich. India and the Pakistan movement owe its foundations to the scores of lawyers and politicians who were able to develop their political identity and claim representative powers from the British based on their success in local government and provincial elections. In many ways these very British institutions contributed to the successful independence movement. Under the third Reich’s rule all of this would not have happened.

    Given Hitler’s fascination with the Aryan race and racial superiority the peoples of the sub-continent would have had to face mass near enslavement. There is no evidence to suggest that the Muslim world would have been any better had succeeded?

    The example of Germany between the wars is prudent because religion is easy to hate. Germany needed someone to blame for its economic misery and they blamed the Jews. We today need to blame someone for the bombs that go off so we like all those people before us who fail to take responsibility for their actions conveniently hate members of other religions.

    Though I wont agree that Chinese don’t believe in God. While a the Chinese Communist Party officially frowns upon religion many Chinese practice Christianity, Taosim, Bhuddasim, Islam etc. Especially immigrants in the US who tend to be 2nd or third generation from the Southern Provinces. Perhaps as they are not confrontational we as a society do not feel threatened by them? Perhaps we are also ignorant of the brutal subjugation by the Chinese Communist Party of Muslims in China – but well as long as China is helping us out we don’t criticize them.

    Liberals however can be religious. The idea here that liberalism and religion don’t go hand in hand is perhaps an over simplification. While Atheism and agnosticism etc are strands of various sorts. Liberals and libertarians may be religious themselves but what they are against is the imposition of religious doctrine on their lives by the state, society or other external factors.

    Muslim immigrants may relate more to core bible built values because of shared values. Anti-abortion and anti-gay values for example are common. It may just be more comfortable to interact with individuals who share such important values which are the core of our identity.

    Religion is problematic due to the value judgements involved. Every person has their own interpretation and their own value system. Its more difficult to find common ground passively but much easier to find common ground if it is based on hatred.

  • Faheem Mumtaz |

    I don't know others but we Muslims s much religion sensitive. We never accept what other is saying about religion ,we always have our own point of view always denying others. This problem is found mostly in educated people.

  • guYsir |

    Mr. TM

    You censored my 3rd critical comment which was very important to understand the current situation and war on terror. You could removed my last line but anyways

    That comment i wrote from my own hand/mind which I 1st wrote at Eric Margolis page but some upgraded stuff..

    Well I have a full and better immunity to write at Eric Margolis page than here. It shows 1st you're jealous due to my praised I earned at EM page in 05 2nd you are against free speech despite being vocal about it.

    Well I should better leave your blog and you should remain in darkness which engulfed you all. Eric Margolis is the best Author/Journalist and He has a best comment section in which you can even edit your comments after posting and can say whatever I like to write unlike all of you.

    I am goin and will never come back again

    Pakistan Zindabad

    • guYsir |

      Pakistan Zindabad is become an old slogan now new slogan which Mush said/gave in his last speech which he himself is a responsible for it and no one else.

      Pakistan ka Allah he hafiz

    • Aamir Mughal |

      dr jawwad khan says: – March 19, 2010 at 2:57 am – One after other…. from Where these islamophobe begots are coming in…

      one after other…

      ========================

      Dear Jawwad Sahab,

      It is called "Freedom of Expression and you and Mr Talkhaba have enjoyed it thoroughly. "Freedom of Expression in the Light of both of your [who as per your own claim "are Islamists"] own statements". Why is it so that you can enjoy "Freedom of Expression and the same right is denied to others"???

      "QUOTE"

      FROM THE THREAD: Blackwater ‘IN’ Pakistan – Rehman Malik, Patterson & Clinton all LIED to the People of Pakistan

      Posted by Teeth Maestro January 23, 2010

      Talkhaba says: January 25, 2010 at 12:21 pm @Jawad Khan!

      Give us some freedom to use the language which is unethical for the print and electronic media.

      dr jawwad khan says: January 25, 2010 at 12:39 pm @ Talkhaba sb, lolzzz for cut pastia….you know why i like the teeth maestro? because of minimum possible editing policy of the owner.

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      The Blasphemy Law: An Objective Assessment from Religious, Legal & Social Perspectives Posted by Teeth Maestro October 20, 2009

      you are the bigger asshole [dr jawwad khan on October 29, 2009 @ 2:11 pm]

      —-

      bottom line javed ghamidi and dr.khalid zaheer are two biggets lying sons of bitch [dr jawwad khan on October 31, 2009 @ 1:51 am]

      Aamir Mughal says: November 1, 2009 at 12:53 am you should be ashamed of lying about Quran e Kareem. like teacher(son of a bitch) like follower(pseudo muslim moderates) SURA TAUBA WAS LAST IN THE ORDER OF DESCEND. [Dr Jawwad Khan]

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      Dear Jawad Sahab,

      And you should see before you write that you are raising false allegation. I had said and written Sura Anfal – Chapter 8 not not Surah Tawba – Chapter 9.

      Aamir Mughal says: November 1, 2009 at 12:50 am SURA 8(TAUBA) DESCENDED IN 9TH HIJRI…. you should be ashamed of lying about Quran e Kareem. like teacher(son of a bitch) like follower(pseudo muslim moderates) SURA TAUBA WAS LAST IN THE ORDER OF DESCEND. [Dr Jawwad Khan]

      ===================

      Dear Jawwad Sahab,

      Instead of bad mouthing you should first raed Quran to learn that Chapter number 8 is AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY) not Sura Tawba as you have wrongly misquoted me above with lot of bad mouthing. May Allah help us in controlling our rage.

      "UNQUOTE"

  • Xim |

    All praise to the atheists, agnostics and liberals for being positive about human life, values, beliefs (or lack of), cultures and what not. Any denying that religion is (unfortunately) the root of all evil?

  • Mansoor Khalid |

    When believes engulf you as person to the limit that you close your eyes to everything else, this is what happens. The only reason why liberal/atheists can accept anyone with compassion is that because they are open to ideas and understand that every person is entitled to his/her opinions.

  • Aamir Mughal |

    I was talking to my uncle, who is very religious person himself. He mentioned that how he admires Hitler, and if only Hitler had stayed in power few more years, all the Jews would have been wiped out from this earth. Posted by Umar Tosheeb March 18, 2010

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    Dear Mr. Umar,

    With utmost humility I would beg to say that your Uncle was not religious at all otherwise he wouldn't have said what you have quoted above because Lord says:

    Sanctity of Life [everybody's] in Islam is as under :

    مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَى بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَلَقَدْ جَاء تْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ فِي الأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ

    Interpretation of the Meaning:

    For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth. [ AL-MAEDA (THE TABLE, THE TABLE SPREAD) Chapter 5 – Verse 32]

    وَلاَ تَقْتُلُواْ النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللّهُ إِلاَّ بِالحَقِّ وَمَن قُتِلَ مَظْلُومًا فَقَدْ جَعَلْنَا لِوَلِيِّهِ سُلْطَانًا فَلاَ يُسْرِف فِّي الْقَتْلِ إِنَّهُ كَانَ مَنْصُورًا

    Interpretation of the Meaning:

    And slay not the life which Allah hath forbidden save with right. Whoso is slain wrongfully, We have given power unto his heir, but let him not commit excess in slaying. Lo! he will be helped. [AL-ISRA (ISRA', THE NIGHT JOURNEY, CHILDREN OF ISRAEL) Chapter 17 Verse 33]

    وَلَا يَقْتُلُونَ النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ إِلَّا بِالْحَقِّ

    Interpretation of the Meaning:

    nor take the life which Allah hath forbidden save in (course of) justice, [AL-FURQAN (THE CRITERION, THE STANDARD) Chapter 25 Verse 68]

    وَلاَ تَقْتُلُواْ النَّفْسَ الَّتِي حَرَّمَ اللّهُ إِلاَّ بِالْحَقِّ

    Interpretation of the Meaning:

    slay not the life which Allah hath made sacred, save in the course of justice. [ AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6 Verse 151]

  • tahir |

    Check out how much pakistani liberal are tolerant:

    Hoodbhoy sees veiled students bar to effective communication.

    For more read;
    http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=229669

    The issue of tolerance is grave.if all the religious people start killing liberals,will they show tolerance.I hope not.

    Liberals and atheist are busy in clubnighting,so they don't have any time for war.

  • Aamir Mughal |

    because all Jews are horrible people. [Posted by Umar Tosheeb March 18, 2010]

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    Sir,

    You are partially wrong and your Unlce is partially correct and it would've been better had he used "Zionists" and majority of Jewish Leadership of Past and Present as well because Muslims have always treated Jews and Christians through Respect, Peace and Security, for example Sultan Salahuddin Ayubi [Even European Historians admitted it] whereas Christians treated Jews with disrespect not only disrespect but they severely butchered Jews all over the place for example Spain where Jews and even Christians were given Respect by Ummayyads but as soon the Christians took over they butchered Muslims and Jews as well and drive Muslims out of Spain and forcibly convert Muslims and Jews into Christians and I hope you also have read about "The Infamous Inquisition of Tomas de Torquemada.

    Islam in Spain: http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/islam-in
    Islam in Spain – II
    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/islam-in

  • Aamir Mughal |

    It is an important question to ask, why believers of God are so full of hate and non-believers so full of compassion and understanding? Why so much killing in the name of most compassionate, most merciful.? [Umar Tosheeb]

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    This may help to understand the "Killing in the name of Most Compassionate and Most Merciful"

    Nouvel Observateur: "And neither do you regret having supported Islamic fundamentalism, which has given arms and advice to future terrorists?"

    Brzezinski: "What is more important in world history? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some agitated Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?" REFERENCE: Are We to Blame for Afghanistan?

    By Chalmers Johnson 11-22-04 http://hnn.us/articles/8438.html

    WATCH A RARE VIDEO OF Brzezinski [National Security Advisor for Jimmy Carter when this Afghan Mess was started by the Yankees] Zbigniew Brzezinski to Jihadists: Your cause is right!

  • dr jawwad khan |

    1) My question for all liberals is that why they do not talk about the peaceful solution instead of promoting false perception against the Islam?

    Why they are disgusted whenever some one talks about finding the root causes of terrorism in pakistan?

    I wonder why the response from george bush, tony blair to rauf kalasra is the same when some one talks about the root cause of terrorism.

    2)Atheism does not give the guaranty for peace.the first and second world war which took millions of lives were not fought on the religion.

    tribal wars in the history and even now are not fought on religion.

    3) a true follower of islam will not kill an innocent man. This is the fact. Pakistan is full of religious people. If we accept your theory then 2/3 of the population of pakistan should have been wiped out from the face of the earth 20-30 years ago.

    4) The biggest favour ever done on muslims by a non muslim was from the Adolf hitler when he started a bloody war stopped the crusade of the europe.WW2 crippled the economies of colonial power and make these colonial power to go home otherwise muslim ummah would be in another shape and form.

    5)Only a muslim can understand the anti semitic emotions of the other muslim. When we talk about destruction of Israel it doesn't mean that we are sharping our knives to cut the throat of innocent children and women. Most of us say this with the refrence of Hanith and war crimes of Israel.

  • Aamir Mughal |

    The most hated people in religious philosophy are those who do not believe at all; Atheist/ Liberals etc. But who do Atheists/Liberals hate? It is an important question to ask, why believers of God are so full of hate and non-believers so full of compassion and understanding? Why so much killing in the name of most compassionate, most merciful.? [Umar Tosheeb]

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    Leon Trotsky was assassinated on the of Stalin.

    Introduction: Stalin’s Gulag
    http://gulaghistory.org/nps/onlineexhibit/stalin/

  • Aamir Mughal |

    If you are an immigrant in USA, having different religion and culture, the only people who fully accept you wholeheartedly without any judgment are the ones who don’t believe in God. [Umar Tosheeb]

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    But if we go in the past: Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee [Red Indians] http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/bury-my-

    President Abraham Lincoln, to General Phillip "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" Sheridan.

  • Aamir Mughal |

    If you are an immigrant in USA, having different religion and culture, the only people who fully accept you wholeheartedly without any judgment are the ones who don’t believe in God. [Umar Tosheeb]

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    Japanese Internment: This is the Enemy


    Japanese Internment Camps History Video


    Japanese Internment Camps and Their Effects
    http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0312008/

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Why so much killing in the name of most compassionate, most merciful.? [Umar Tosheeb]

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    Menachem Begin was give Nobel Peace Prize but before that Begin used to "Restore" Peace like this!

    Early in the morning of April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun (headed by Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents. The village lay outside of the area to be assigned by the United Nations to the Jewish State; it had a peaceful reputation. But it was located on high ground in the corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Deir Yassin was slated for occupation under Plan Dalet and the mainstream Jewish defense force, the Haganah, authorized the irregular terrorist forces of the Irgun and the Stern Gang to perform the takeover. http://www.deiryassin.org/

  • Aamir Mughal |

    1984 Delhi Massacre: Justice Denied Issue No.19, February 2005 Naunidhi Kaur Naunidhi Kaur is based in Toronto where she is working as a freelance journalist for television and print media. — Editors http://www.sikhspectrum.com/022005/justice_nk.htm
    It is not easy to come to terms with images of a family member being burnt alive by a mob in front of you. If that happens, psychoanalysts say, you end up living with “death guilt.” Most survivors of 1984 carnage live with this death guilt. Silently they condemn themselves for not getting killed with their family member. Punishment to the guilty can assuage their feelings. This has not happened. Twenty years after the 1984 carnage the guilty politicians who led the riots are members of the parliament and cabinet ministers. The police officers who helped the killing mobs have retired or have been promoted.

    1984 Sikhs’ Kristallnacht – Part 1



    1984 Sikhs’ Kristallnacht – Part 2 [Sikh Driver burned to death near Indian Parliament]



    1984 Sikhs’ Kristallnacht – Part 3



    1984 Sikhs’ Kristallnacht – Part 4



    1984 Sikhs’ Kristallnacht – Part 5



    1984 Anti Sikh Pogroms http://www.scribd.com/1984-Anti-Sikh-Pogroms/d/24

    1984 Delhi Massacre

  • farrah shah |

    Mr.Umar

    Get a life.You start the post from Lahore blasts and than you go to comment on Americans attitude towards religion and than straight away you link Pakistanis to fanaticism .

    Dear being a part of USA society you have to prove your loyalty to them but not at the cost of abusing Pakistanis or associating them with fanaticism.

    Half baked theories neem hakeem khatrai jaan.If you can read Urdu.

    It seems you have not met Johova's witness yet otherwise they would have forced you to change your name and have not got your address yet .

    It seems Scientology people have not knocked at your door as well.

    Dear have a good break and try to understand USA properly.

    Not the people ;people are same all over the world.

    Understand the White House policies and congressmen.

  • farrah shah |

    guy sir Zinda bad.keep posting I enjoy reading every bit.

  • farrah shah |

    Anyway the people I met during my travelling and it does not include USA Catholics do raise their eyebrows .

    And they believe they will go to paradise and we (muslims)will go to hell.

    George Bush and Tony Blair both visited pope and believed in crusade.

    Catholics believe in religion ,church and God seriously .

    They can all have huge fights on their Saints.But everyone avoids it that bit I like .this is called being civil.

    generally public is friendly and government tolerant .

  • farrah shah |

    I have not met a single atheist.They are all atheist to avoid to go to Church and to avoid debates .

    They say they are athiest but do believe in some sort of God .

    What that God is they do not like to discuss to avoid stress.

    For chriest sake and for God sake why do athiests need that?

    By the way an athiest corrected me that instead of saying for God's sake I can use for Muhammad's sake.

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  • umar tosheeb |

    Dear Amir Mughal Sahib, My point was not to highlight one particular religion. Thank you for posting all those links and videos, they provide further evidence of religious violence by different religions against people of other religions.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Dear Umar Sahab,

      I would have said the same thing differently, "that some of the People who follow Religion most of the time use Religion for Killing and Violence to justify it"

    • dr jawwad khan |

      i would make it this way," till this world is ruled by injustice,inequity and crimes,the peace will remain a dream of a crazy.Religion has nothing to do with violence in the society"

    • Aamir Mughal |

      If you are an immigrant in USA, having different religion and culture, the only people who fully accept you wholeheartedly without any judgment are the ones who don’t believe in God. [Umar Tosheeb]

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      Where was the Religion in all this???

      Bin Laden And Hiroshima by Pervez Hoodbhoy August 06, 2005

      Headlines like “Jap City No More” soon brought the news to a joyous nation. Crowds gathered in Times Square to celebrate; there was less of the enemy left. Rarely are victors encumbered by remorse. President Harry Truman declared: “When you have to deal with a beast you have to treat him as a beast. It is most regrettable but nevertheless true.”[ii] Not surprisingly, six decades later, even American liberals remain ambivalent about the morality of nuking the two Japanese cities. The late Hans Bethe, Nobel Prize winner in physics of Manhattan Project fame and a leading exponent of arms control, declared that “the atom bomb was the greatest gift we could have given to the Japanese”[iii]. US wronged Pakistan for 30 years – Hillary Clinton – 1 http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/05/us-wrong

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Religion has nothing to do with violence in the society” dr jawwad khan says: March 20, 2010 at 2:39 pm

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    Yes because if Religion is responsible for Violence and Bloodletting than how would one explain the Butchery of Mongols all over the place in 12 and 13 Century against everybody [Mongols were Pagan]

  • readinglord |

    A timely topic for discussion indeed. But to start with can any body define religion, except as 'absurdism', used by vested interests to divide humanity into conflicting irreconcilable groupings of 'us' and 'others' in the name of their respective god and/or prophet or guru, etc., etc..

  • Al |

    Atheists are just as prone to violent behavior as anyone else. We have examples of Soviet & Chinese atrocities in the last century.

    Do you really think the world would be a peaceful place if all of us did not believe in a God? Is the believe in God the real reason for all the wars that we face today? Was Hitler motivated by religion to carry out all the atrocities that he did? Are the Israeli's motivated by religion in carrying out the massacres of Palestinians? Is America waging wars in Iraq & Afghanistan because of religion?

    You need to dig deeper into every conflict and war to find the real reason is always economic & political. Where does religion come in between? Religion is just a marker that people use to identify with a certain group & it is easy for those in power to manipulate people to fight their wars using religion as a pretext. When religion cannot be used the power elite use other markers – ethnicity, nationalism etc.

    If the American President launched the Iraq War by telling the truth that they wanted to secure the oil flows from the region would the American public have supported him? So he had to mask the rhetoric in nationalistic bullshit like they are against our freedom & stuff like that.

    When people are denied their rights they will retaliate & religion becomes the rallying cry just as in many cases it is nationalism.

    Do you think Muslims are inherently prone to violence because of their believes & it has nothing to do with the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine?

    In a way you have answered the question yourself. You write that "A Pakistani fanatic would prefer a Chinese over a Shia or an Ahmedi without blinking his eyes." Why do you think its like that? Is it because of State Propaganda that portrays China as a great friend of Pakistan or is it because of the religious beliefs of the person?