Muhammad Ali Jinnah – Presidential Address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan on 11th August, 1947
As you know, history shows that in England conditions, some time ago, were much worse than those prevailing in India today. The Roman Catholics and the Protestants persecuted each other. Even now there are some States in existence where there are discriminations made and bars imposed against a particular class. Thank God, we are not starting in those days. We are starting in the days when there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State.
The heirs of Jinnah’s Pakistan have failed to live up to the expectations of the nations founding fathers. Today’s attacks on Ahmedi “worship places”, was despicable and deserved not only our sympathies with the families of the victims; but our unequivocal condemnation of such barbarism.
However, that too seems too much to ask for.
What filled our television screens and the blogosphere were commentaries on whether Ahmedi worship places can be called mosques or not. Whether we can recognize mid-Friday worship at these venues as Friday prayers or not. And to my utter disgust and disappointment some comments that suggested that the victims, due to their beliefs have brought upon themselves such senseless violence.
Predictably, we have claims of foreign influence, nefarious and maligned conspiracies, and actions by “hidden hands” etc. However, while everyone seems to have an opinion on what transpired in Lahore, several people find it extremely hard to condemn without reservation the murder of innocent people. Words of condemnation are followed by a caveat.
Are we as a society becoming guilty of tolerating violence? Why are some forms of criminality tolerated while others considered unforgivable?
Regardless of the beliefs of the victims, is it not a crime to carry weapons, enter private property and cause bodily and material destruction? Whether or not the perpetrators of the attack are the Taliban or “foreign agents” is beside the point. It does not excuse the state from its responsibility to protect its citizens?
Today’s attacks illustrate how on the one hand the state continues to underestimated the strength and determination of terrorists, and how gullible a nation we are that believes statements by the government and military that progress is being made in the fight against miscreants. Victims of today’s attack would be hardly convinced.
Further, would a representative of the state care to explain how gunmen were able to carry weapons and explosives without being challenged at any of the checkpoints that have been erected? How were two of the terrorists able to escape when the perimeter should have been cordoned off?
We complain about civilian deaths at the hands of US drone attacks. We demand that our citizens receive the same protections without reservation or discrimination. We condemn atrocities committed against Muslim’s in India. Yet when it comes to our fellow citizens, we are increasingly intolerant towards them, and tolerant of violence against them.
It’s time to call a spade, a spade. There can be no half measures, no notions of acceptable violence and criminality. We as a society have become increasingly adept at marginalizing minorities; that when crimes are perpetrated against them our condemnation and outrage seems muted.
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74 responses to “Call a Spade, a Spade!”
it is irrelevant what jinnah said 60 years ago
jinnah was no Prophet or God, Pakistan today should be steered through the will of its people
don't try to blackmail people with teachings of jinnah
Really? Should Pakistan be steered through the will of its people or through the teachings of Quran & our Holy Prophet (PBUH)?
I don't think anything wrong has been said in the article. Would the Prophet (PBUH) ever support the extremism & barbarity with which the Ahmadis were murdered? Never. If this was how Islam was supposed to be protected & spread than it would have ended 1400 years ago.
How would deny that Jinnah sent an Ahmedi to defend the Case of Palestine: Jinnah, General Zia and Israel
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Religion of Jinnah and Mullah's Opposition for Pakistan:) Secular Republic or Islamic Republic of Pakistan
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And the will of the people is……….???
Are we not being blackmailed with religious symbolism by bearded mullahs demanding death and violence? Granted its only a minority who spew hate, but at the same time it only takes a handful of supporters to turn empty rhetoric into violent crimes.
Its much easier to taunt a politician or question his motives. But how does one stand up to a religious figure or question his position where a mob would rather lynch you for blasphemy or being anti-Islam than to engage in a debate and win you over by their deeds and their actions.
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@hahaha: Yeah, that's why you fundos were opposed to Jinnah, calling him a British agent for forcing the partition of India. But when Pakistan was made, all was forgotten and the mad mullahs immediately went "hai hai hai! Pakistan islam ka gehwara hai! Chalo Ahmadion ko maartay hain". Hypocrite choot-pieces. Agar Jinnah ki baatein nahin pasand theen to Deoband mein warray rehtay, yahan kya kar rahe ho?
Jinnah was a constitutionalist and his views on democracy and statecraft made a lot more sense than the loonies that have been spitting venom and committing hate crimes for six decades. Which probably explains why maulvis haven't won any general or provincial election in the history of the country.
There's the "will of the people".
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jinnah was just a mortal human like the rest of us, he did some good things and some bad
If people are or were opposed to jinnah than they have the every right to do so
it is democracy isn't it ?
your cheap language tells us a lot about your upbringing and background
@hahaha: I agree with you. Jinnah should not be treated like a prophet that we treat everything he said as divine decrees.
But he was nevertheless the founder of our country. The religious groups & mullahs were opposed to him & what he was trying to accomplish.
At least the mullah's & religious parties should be brave enough to admit this much & be honest with the people. Instead they have added 'Hazrat' & 'Rehmat-ullah' to his name & outright lie about what he stood for.
I am sure if he was alive today these same mullahs would be issuing fatwas declaring him a kaafir.
The mullahs should be brave enough & say yes we opposed Jinnah, admit he was secular, admit he did not want a theocracy, admit that he was fighting for the political & economic rights of the muslims & not for religious rights or to create a shariah state, and then tell people that we support none of that – we do not want the Pakistan that Jinnah created & wanted – we want a theocracy as per our own interpretation of Islam. But i know this will never happen because this is politics & business – it has nothing to do with principals.
Why do they have to lie in the name of Jinnah to get support from the people? Why the hypocrisy? Is there a fear that people might not support them if they start criticizing Jinnah? Is there a fear that the establishment will not tolerate this & let them carry on with their politics & business in the name of Islam?
Al says: – June 6, 2010 at 12:21 pm we do not want the Pakistan that Jinnah created & wanted – we want a theocracy as per our own interpretation of Islam. But i know this will never happen because this is politics & business – it has nothing to do with principals.
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A1 has raised a genuine question but what would be the interpretation of Islam in Pakistan and who will unite this MOB [Pakistanis] on single Interpretation of a Deen which is not Religion but way of Life.
A glimpse:
1 – Deobandis: Ban Shia Processions in Moharram, Ban 12 Rabiul Awwal Procession and every other bida’at [Innovation] in which are practiced by Non-Deobandis. Shias are out of Islam.
2 – Barelvis : Everything which is done by Deobandis and Wahabis is against Islam. Deobandis, Wahabis and Rafizis are out of Islam.
3 – Ahl-e-Hadith i.e. Salafis/Wahabi: Every Bida’at is deviancy and every deviancy leads towards Hell. Shia, Barelvis, and Deobandis too be warned.
4 – Jamat-e-Islami: Every Secular party is against Islam and every Military Dictator is Ameerul Momineen but above mentioned groups have written books after books and issued fatwa after fatwa even of Kufr/Disbelief against Mawdudi and Jamat-e-Islami.
Late Hussain Ahmed Madani [Head of Deoband and he was also in Indian Congress] had declared [while opposing Pakistan] that Hindus and Muslims of Pre Partition India are one "Ummah"
As per my poor and humble knowledge. These Islamist Politicians are least bothered to pay attention that Parliamentary Democracy [Secular] and Quran are two different entities and these Fools are trying to mixing them both thus perverting both. They talk of Islamic Democracy but fail to mention that 4 Caliphs were not selected as per Adult Franchise but through a Shura consist upon some Companions [May Allah be please with all of them] and process of selection of Earliest Caliphs i.e. Abu Bakar, Omar, Uthman and Ali [May Allah be pleased with all of them]. Even process of selection of 4 Caliphs differed in each case [Tabari [Chapters on Caliphate] , Prophet and Caliphs of Prophet [Vol 1 and 2] History by Ibn Khaldun and Al Bidaya Wal Nihaya by Hafiz Ibn Kathir]
Comparing the system given by Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] 1500 years ago with 1973 Constitution is [in my humble opinion] extreme “Ignorance” i.e. Jahalat. Islamic System is a different entity and Parliamentary System is altogether a different system.
Mughal: I don't think there is any such thing as an 'Islamic System' when it comes to choosing your leaders.
You can find proof for this in what you wrote yourself – all of the first 4 caliphs were selected in a different way. There was no fixed formula. And this is the reason the first big division amongst Muslims came about – on the selection of the Khaleefa.
I strongly disagree with people who say that parliamentary democracy has no place in Islam. There is nothing in the Quran & nothing in the Hadith that says that parliamentary democracy is Haraam or Un-Islamic. The only caveat that we in a Muslim country should have is that all laws & regulations should be in accordance with the Quran & Hadith.
No where in our religion does it tell the Muslims how to select or elect their leaders, but only tells them that they should not follow those who do not fear Allah & who rule by creating divisions.
Surely this is a very important issue. If Allah had wanted, the Holy Prophet (PBUH) would have left us with specific guidelines on how we were supposed to select or elect our leaders. But there are no such guidelines. Instead it was through consensus that the Sahaba (RA) decided amongst themselves. There was no formula.
I think Allah in His wisdom left it to us to decide how we chose our leaders because humans societies have changed & evolved & will keep on doing that.
Those who talk about establishing Khilafa do not have the vaguest of ideas of what it will be like – who will decide who becomes the Khalifa? Who is a Khalifa anyway – We can call our Prime Minister the Khalifa if we want to because that is what the role of the Khalifa is going to be.
What they propose will surely result in a might is right form of government where whoever is powerful enough will declare himself Khalifa. History shows us that the religious clergy have always overwhelmingly sided with those in power. A formula for disaster – not unlike what we have in Saudi Arabia.
Al says: – June 6, 2010 at 3:21 pm – Mughal: I don’t think there is any such thing as an ‘Islamic System’ when it comes to choosing your leaders.
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Yes there is as I mentioned in the case of Caliphs with References and I further add that Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah [May Allah be pleased with him] and Amir Yazid Bin Muawiyah [May Allah have mercy on his soul] were selected by overwhelming majority of Muslims. [Reference: Ibn Khaldun, and Al Bidayah Wal Nihaya] . More than 300 Companions of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] were alive and accepted Yazid's Caliphate e.g. Abdullah Ibn Abbas, Abdullah Ibn Omar [May Allah be pleased with them] and even Mohammad Bin Hanfiya [S/O Hazrat Ali – May Allah be pleased with him] accepted him as Caliph and used to spend time with Yazid [Al Bidaya Wal Nihaya]
Mughal: That is not what i am saying. There was no system decreed by the Prophet. No where does it say in our religion that 10 or 50 or 100 or 300 people should select the ruler.
I am not arguing about the historical facts of how the Caliphs were chosen.
Your own example suggests that there was no uniform system that was followed. So clearly there was nothing decreed by the Quran & Hadith.
Al says: – June 6, 2010 at 8:15 pm – Your own example suggests that there was no uniform system
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Thanks for correcting me. Many things were left for Muslims to decide themselves by using "Ijtihad" [Re-Interpretation without perverting the Commandment] as per need of the time.
@hahaha – Jinnah and his sayings are the only thing that one can safely quote any more that is above controversy.
I am all for the will of the people. I am sure the people of this country do not want to orchestrate violence against their neighbours and fellow citizens. I am sure that the people of this nation do not want to live in poverty.
But given that we do not have an articulate system of governance that can articulate the will, as you put it, of the people how exactly does one know what the people want?
دستوریہ میں قائد اعظم کی افتتاحی تقریرکا صحیح مدعا ( سید ابوالاعلیٰ مودودی)
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اصولی سوالات پر بحث کرنے سے پہلے میں اس غلط فہمی کو صاف کردینا چاہتا ہوں جو قائداعظم مرحوم کی اس تقریر سے پیدا ہوئی ہے جو انہوں نے 11 اگست 1947ءکو پاکستان کی مجلس دستورساز میں کی تھی۔ اس تقریر سے تین نتیجے نکالے جاتے ہیں۔ اول یہ کہ قائداعظم مرحوم نے اس تقریر میں ایک ایسی ”پاکستانی قومیت“ کی بِنا ڈالنے کا اعلان کیا تھا جو وطنیت پر مبنی ہو اور جس میں پاکستان کے ہندو‘ مسلمان‘ عیسائی وغیرہ سب ایک قوم ہوں۔ دوم یہ کہ مرحوم نے اس تقریر میں یہ فیصلہ کردیا تھا کہ پاکستان کا دستور غیر مذہبی نوعیت کا یعنی Secular ہوگا۔ سوم یہ کہ مرحوم کی اس تقریرکو کوئی ایسی آئینی حیثیت حاصل ہے جس کی وجہ سے پاکستان کے باشندے یا اس کے دستورساز اب اس کے کھینچے ہوئے خطوط سے ہٹ نہیں سکتے۔ میرے نزدیک یہ تینوں نکات جو اس تقریر سے بطور نتیجہ نکالے جاتے ہیں صحیح نہیں ہیں‘ اور اپنی اس رائے کے لیے میرے دلائل حسب ذیل ہیں: (الف) قائداعظم مرحوم کی اس تقریر کے الفاظ خواہ بظاہر پہلے اور دوسرے مفہوم کے حامل ہوں‘ مگر ہمارے لیے یہ باورکرنا بہت مشکل ہے کہ ان کا منشا بھی حقیقت میں وہی تھا جو ان کے الفاظ سے مترشح ہوتا ہے۔ اس لیے کہ اُن کے مرتبے کے انسان سے ہم یہ توقع نہیں کرسکتے کہ وہ پاکستان کے قیام سے پہلے دس سال تک جن اصولوں کو بنیاد بناکر لڑتے رہے تھے ان سے وہ پاکستان قائم ہوتے ہی یک لخت پلٹ گئے ہوں گے اور انہی اصولوںکے قائل ہوگئے ہوں گے جن کے خلاف انہوں نے اپنی ساری قوم کو ساتھ لے کر جنگ کی تھی۔ نیز ہم یہ گمان بھی نہیں کرسکتے کہ وہ قیام پاکستان کے پہلے ہی دن یکایک اپنے اُن تمام وعدوں سے پھرگئے ہوں گے جو انہوں نے بارہا صاف اور صریح الفاظ میں اپنی قوم سے کیے تھے اور جن کے اعتماد ہی پر قوم ان کو اپنا لیڈر مان کر اپنی جان ومال ان کے اشاروں پر قربان کرنے کے لیے آمادہ ہوئی تھی۔ پھر ہمارے لیے یہ ماننا بھی ممکن نہیں ہے کہ قائداعظم ایسی متضاد باتیں کرسکتے تھے کہ 11 اگست کو ایک اعلان کریں اور پھر اس کے بعد بار بار اس کے بالکل خلاف باتوں کا مسلمان پبلک کو یقین دلاتے رہیں۔ اس لیے ہمارے نزدیک ان کی مذکورہ بالا تقریر کو ان کے اگلے اور پچھلے ارشادات کی روشنی میں سمجھنا زیادہ بہتر ہے‘ بہ نسبت اس کے کہ ہم اس کا کوئی ایسا مفہوم لیں جو ان کی تمام باتوں کے خلاف پڑتا ہے جو انہوں نے اس سے پہلے فرمائیں اور اس کے بعد بھی فرماتے رہے۔ (ب) سب کو معلوم ہے کہ قائداعظم کی کانگریس سے لڑائی تھی ہی دوقومی نظریے کی بنیاد پر۔ 10 اگست 47ءتک ان کا مستقل نظریہ یہ تھا کہ مسلمان ایک الگ قوم ہیں اور وہ غیرمسلموں کے ساتھ مل کر ایک متحدہ وطنی قومیت نہیں بناسکتے۔ اس کے متعلق ان کی بہت سی تحریروں اور تقریروں میں سے صرف ایک تحریرکا اقتباس میں یہاں نقل کروں گا جو ستمبر1944ءمیں گاندھی جی کے ساتھ اپنی خط وکتابت کے سلسلے میں لکھی تھی: ”ہم اس کے قائل ہیں اور ہمارا یہ دعویٰ ہے کہ مسلمان اور ہندو دو بڑی قومیں ہیں جو ”قوم“ کی ہر تعریف اور معیار پر پوری اترتی ہیں۔ ہم دس کروڑ کی ایک قوم ہیں۔ مزید برآں ہم ایک ایسی قوم ہیں جو ایک مخصوص اور ممتاز تہذیب وتمدن‘ زبان و ادب‘ آرٹ اور فنِ تعمیر‘ احساس اقدار وتناسب‘ قانونی احکام واخلاقی ضوابط‘ رسم ورواج اور تقویم (کیلنڈر)‘ تاریخ اور روایات‘ رجحانات اور عزائم کی مالک ہے۔ خلاصہ¿ بحث یہ ہے کہ زندگی اور اس کے متعلقات کے بارے میں ہمارا اپنا ایک امتیازی زاویہ¿ نگاہ ہے۔ اور قانونِ بین الاقوامی کی ہر دفعہ کے لحاظ سے ہم ایک قوم ہیں“۔ (”مسٹر جناح کی تقریریں اورتحریریں“۔ مرتبہ جمیل الدین احمد‘ ص 181) اب کیا ہم یہ باور کرلیں کہ 11 اگست کو یک لخت وہ تمام خصوصیتیں مٹ گئیں جو مسلمانوں کو غیر مسلموں سے جدا کرکے ایک الگ قوم بناتی تھیں اور یکایک ایک ایسی نئی قومیت کے اسباب فراہم ہوگئے جس میں مسلمانوں اورغیرمسلموں کا جذب ہونا ممکن ہوگیا؟ اگر ہم اس بات کو مان لیں تو قائداعظم مرحوم کو اس الزام سے نہیں بچایا جاسکتا کہ وہ ایک بااصول آدمی نہ تھے بلکہ محض سیاسی مصلحتوں کی خاطر اصول بناتے اور بدلتے تھے۔ مرحوم کی وفات کے پانچ سال بعد ان کی روح کو ایسے الزامات کا تحفہ پیش کرنے کے لیے میں تو کسی طرح تیار نہیں ہوسکتا۔ (ج) بے شمار شہادتیں اس امرکی موجود ہیں کہ پاکستان کے قیام سے پہلے بھی قائداعظم مرحوم مسلمانوں سے ایک ریاست کا وعدہ کرتے رہے تھے اور اس کے بعد بھی وہ اس وعدے کو دوہراتے رہے۔ پہلے کے وعدوں میں سے صرف چند مثالیں ملاحظہ ہوں۔ 21 نومبر 1945ءکو فرنٹیئر مسلم لیگ کانفرنس میں تقریرکرتے ہوئے انہوں نے فرمایا: ”مسلمان پاکستان کا مطالبہ کرتے ہیں جہاں وہ خود اپنے ضابطہ¿ حیات‘ اپنے تہذیبی ارتقائ‘ اپنی روایات اور اسلامی قانون کے مطابق حکمرانی کرسکیں“۔(حوالہ مذکور‘صفحہ 473) پھر اسی کانفرنس میں انہوں نے 24 نومبرکو تقریر کرتے ہوئے اس خیال کا اظہار فرمایا: ”ہمارا دین‘ ہماری تہذیب اور ہمارے اسلامی تصورات وہ اصل طاقت ہیں جو ہمیں آزادی حاصل کرنے کے لیے متحرک کرتے ہیں۔“ (حوالہ مذکور‘ صفحہ 422) پھر اسی زمانے میں اسلامیہ کالج پشاور کے طلبہ کو خطاب کرتے ہوئے انہوں نے یہ الفاظ ارشاد فرمائی: ”لیگ ہندوستان کے اُن حصوں میں آزاد ریاستوں کے قیام کی عَلم بردار ہے جہاں مسلمانوں کی اکثریت ہے تاکہ وہاں اسلامی قانون کے مطابق حکومت کرسکیں“۔ (حوالہ مذکور‘ صفحہ 446) 11 اگست والی تقریر سے صرف ایک مہینہ بارہ دن پہلے 29‘ 30 جون 1947ءکو مرحوم نے سرحدکے حالات پر ایک بیان دیتے ہوئے لکھا: ”مگر خان برادران نے اپنے بیانات میں اور اخباری ملاقاتوں میں ایک اور زہرآلود شور برپا کیا ہے کہ پاکستان کی دستورساز اسمبلی شریعت کے بنیادی اصولوں اور قرآنی قوانین سے انحراف کرے گی۔ یہ بات بھی قطعی طور پر غلط ہے“۔ (ڈان 30 جون 1947ئ) دوسری طرف 11 اگست 47ءکے بعد جو ارشادات قائداعظم کی زبان سے سنے گئے اور ان کے معتمد ترین رفیقوں نے ان کی جو ترجمانی باربار خود ان کی زندگی میں کی اور جس کی کوئی تردید ان کی جانب سے نہ ہوئی اس کے چند نمونے ملاحظہ ہوں: ”پشاور 14 جنوری۔ پاکستان کے وزیراعظم مسٹر لیاقت علی خان نے اتحاد ویکجہتی کے لیے سرحد کے لوگوں سے اپیل کرتے ہوئے قائداعظم کے ان اعلانات کا پھر اعادہ کیا کہ پاکستان ایک مکمل اسلامی ریاست ہوگا…. انہوں نے فرمایاکہ پاکستان ہماری ایک تجربہ گاہ ہوگا اور ہم دنیا کو دکھائیں گے کہ تیرہ سو برس پرانے اسلامی اصول ابھی تک کارآمد ہیں“۔ (پاکستان ٹائمز‘15 جنوری 48ئ) ”کراچی 26 جنوری۔ قائداعظم محمدعلی جناح گورنر جنرل پاکستان نے ایک اعزازی دعوت میں (جو انہیں کراچی بار ایسوسی ایشن کی طرف سے گزشتہ شام دی گئی) تقریر کرتے ہوئے فرمایاکہ ”میرے لیے وہ گروہ بالکل ناقابل فہم ہے جو خواہ مخواہ شرارت پیدا کرنا چاہتا ہے اور یہ پروپیگنڈا کررہا ہے کہ پاکستان کا دستور شریعت کی بنا پر نہیں بنے گا“۔ (پاکستان ٹائمز۔27 جنوری 1948ئ) ”راولپنڈی 5 اپریل۔ مسٹر لیاقت علی خاں وزیراعظم پاکستان نے آج راولپنڈی میں اعلان کیا کہ پاکستان کا آئندہ دستور قرآن مجید کے احکام پر مبنی ہوگا۔ انہوں نے فرمایاکہ قائداعظم اور ان کے رفقاءکی یہ دیرینہ خواہش رہی ہے کہ پاکستان کا نشوونما ایک ایسی مضبوط اور مثالی اسلامی ریاست کی حیثیت سے ہو جو اپنے باشندوں کو عدل وانصاف کی ضمانت دے سکے۔“ (پاکستان ٹائمز‘17 اپریل 1948ئ) ان صاف اور صریح بیانات کی موجودگی میں قائداعظم کی 11 اگست والی تقریرکا ایک ایسا مفہوم نکالنا جو ان کے تمام اگلے پچھلے ارشادات کے خلاف ہو‘ مرحوم کی یاد کے ساتھ انصاف نہیں ہے۔ کیا قائداعظمؒ کی تقریر دستوریہ کو پابند کرسکتی ہی؟ (د) علاوہ بریں‘ اگر قائداعظم کی اس تقریرکو اس کے ٹھیٹھ لفظی مفہوم میں بھی لے لیا جائے تو ہمیں جذبات سے قطع نظر کرتے ہوئے یہ غورکرنا چاہیے کہ ان کے ملفوظات کی آئینی حیثیت کیا ہے۔ انہوں نے یہ تقریر خواہ صدر مجلس دستور سازکی حیثیت سے کی ہو یا گورنر جنرل کی حیثیت سے‘ بہرحال کسی حیثیت میں بھی وہ مجلس دستور ساز‘ ایک شاہانہ اختیارات رکھنے والے ادارے (Sovereign Body) کو اس امرکا پابند نہیں کرسکتے تھے کہ وہ دستور انہی خطوط پر بنائے جو وہ کھینچ دیں۔ رہی قوم‘ تو اس نے مرحوم کو اس لیے اپنا لیڈر مانا تھا کہ وہ اس کے قومی عزائم اور مقاصد پورے کرنے میں اس کی رہنمائی کریں‘ نہ اس لیے کہ کامیابی کے پہلے ہی روز وہ اس نصب العین کی رسمِ تجہیز و تکفین ادا کردیں جس کے لیے لاکھوں مسلمانوں نے اپنی جانیں اور عزتیں اورجائدادیں قربان کی تھیں۔ یہ بات سمجھنے کے لیے کسی بڑے غور و فکر کی ضرورت نہیں ہے کہ جو بات اگست 1947ءمیں کہی گئی تھی وہ اگر کہیں مارچ 1940ءمیں کہہ دی جاتی تو پاکستان کا نعرہ دس کروڑ تو کیا دس ہزار مسلمانوں کو بھی جمع نہیں کرسکتا۔
http://talkhaabau.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/%d9%82…
This is just cherry picking history to suit the narrative that Maudidi(after the partition), the religious parties & the establishment wanted to & want to promote.
Jinnah obviously believed in the distinct identity that muslims of the sub-continent had but this did not mean that he wanted to set up a Sharia state or even that he was striving for a separate homeland from the beginning.
If anyone cares to study history objectively, Gandhi, Nehru & the congress leadership were to blame for the failure of the Cabinet Mission Plan to which Jinnah had agreed to in 1946.
In fact later Indian historians have laid blame on the shoulders of Gandhi & Nehru for the division of the sub-continent & not Jinnah.
The statements & demands for partition that Jinnah made should be looked at in context – they were a bargaining tool. He was pushing the Congress leadership to give a fair representation & share of power to the muslims when the Britishers left. But it was the extreme stubbornness & inflexibility of the Congress leadership that was not willing to accommodate Jinnah's demands that finally convinced him that partition was the only option to secure political & economic rights of Muslims.
Jinnah also did not want the partition of Punjab & Bengal & many think that he was disappointed with the the Pakistan he ended up with.
Maudidi's many other writings that Aamir Mughal has quoted here show clearly what his position was on Pakistan before the partition.
Mawdudi, Jinnah and Pakistan??? [Part 1]
The Jamat-i-Islami was also opposed to the idea of Pakistan which it described as Na Pakistan (not pure).
In none of the writings of the Jama'at is to be found the remotest reference in support of the demand for Pakistan. The pre-independence views of Maulana Abul Ala Maududi, the founder of the Jamat-i-Islami were quite definite:
"Among Indian Muslims today we find two kinds of nationalists: the Nationalists Muslims, namely those who in spite of their being Muslims believe in Indian Nationalism and worship it; and the Muslims Nationalist: namely those who are little concerned with Islam and its principles and aims, but are concerned with the individuality and the political and economic interests of that nation which has come to exist by the name of Muslim, and they are so concerned only because of their accidence of birth in that nation. From the Islamic viewpoint both these types of nationalists were equally misled, for Islam enjoins faith in truth only; it does not permit any kind of nation-worshipping at all. [Maulana Maududi, Nationalism and India, Pathankot, 1947, p-25]
Mawdudi, Jinnah and Pakistan??? [Part 2]
Maulana Maududi was of the view that the form of government in the new Muslim state, if it ever came into existence, could only be secular. In a speech shortly before partition he said: "Why should we foolishly waste our time in expediting the so-called Muslim-nation state and fritter away our energies in setting it up, when we know that it will not only be useless for our purposes, but will rather prove an obstacle in our path." [Reference: The Process of Islamic Revolution, 2nd edition, Lahore 1955, p-37]
Mawdudi, Jinnah and Pakistan??? [Part 3]
Paradoxically, Maulana Maududi's writings played an important role in convincing the Muslim intelligentsia that the concept of united nationalism was suicidal for the Muslims but his reaction to the Pakistan movement was complex and contradictory. When asked to cooperate with the Muslim League he replied: "Please do not think that I do not want to participate in this work because of any differences, my difficulty is that I do not see how I can participate because partial remedies do not appeal to my mind and I have never been interested in patch work." [Reference:
Syed Abul Ala Maududi, Tehrik-i-Adazi- e-Hind aur Mussalman] (Indian Freedom Movement and Muslims), pp 22-23
Mawdudi, Jinnah and Pakistan??? [Part 4]
He had opposed the idea of united nationhood because he was convinced that the Muslims would be drawn away from Islam if they agreed to merge themselves in the Indian milieu. He was interested more in Islam than in Muslims: because Muslims were Muslims not because they belonged to a communal or a national entity but because they believed in Islam. The first priority, therefore, in his mind was that Muslim loyalty to Islam should be strengthened. This could be done only by a body of Muslims who did sincerely believe in Islam and did not pay only lip service to it. Hence he founded the Jamat-i-Islami (in August 1941). However, Maulana Maududi's stand failed to take cognizance of the circumstances in which the Muslims were placed at that critical moment. [Reference: Ulema in Politics by Ishtiaq Hussain Qureshi , p-368]
How Mawdudi insulted Prophets [PBUT] and Companions [May Allah be pleased with all of them] of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]
Late. Maulana Muhammad Yoosuf Ludhianwi A literal translation of a letter entitled: "Tanqeed aur Haqqe Tanqeed" which appeared in the Dhul-Hijjah of the Bayanaat – Karachi
The Mawdudi Calamity! http://www.central-mosque.com/aqeedah/Mawdudi.htm
Even Mullahs were allergic to Mawdudi and Mawdudi, Jamat-e-Islami and their supporter's Kharji Ideology!
Most of the Blasphemous Narrations about Sihaba Kiram which are often quoted conveniently are basically in Khilafat O Malookiyat by Mawdudi who never knew the Status of Prophets [PBUT] and Companions [May Allah be pleased wwith all of them].
Mawdudi quoted Blasphemous narration after narration from Alleged Islamic History without even verifying the authenticity and concocted the so-called Political Islamist Ideology.
Do read Khilafat o Malookiyat [original version and several issues of Tarjumnaul Quran] by Mawdudi Calamity again and differentiate between History and Tabbarrah. Mawdudi, his deviant books and his deviants followers of Jamat-e-Islami were thoroughly exposed by not leading Deobandi and Wahabi Maulvis read the following books on Mawdudi’s Tabbarah on Sihaba Kiram and Prophets [PBUT].
There is book written “Khilafat wa Malookiyat Ki Tareekhi Aur Shariee Haisiyat [Authenticity and Relity of Caliphat and Kingdom by Mawdudui] by Hafiz Salahuddin Yousuf [Editor of Weekly Eitisaam, Lahore Pakistan , he is a Salafi Scholar and if you get that book then please note that in preface following Deobandi and even Barelvi Scholars praised the above book on the refutation ofr Mawdudi's Deviant and Blasphemic Beliefs regarding the Companions of Prophet Mohammad.
1 – Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani [Deobandi]
2 – Justice Taqi Usmani [Deobandi]
3 – Late. Maulana Ziauddin Islahi [Daar ul Musanifeen Azam Garh India]
4 – Late. Maulana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi [Binnori Town – Deobandi] – Refuted Mawdudi in letter entitled: “Tanqeed aur Haqqe Tanqeed” which appeared in Bayanaat – Karachi
5 – Late. Maulana Ghulamullah Khan [Rawalpindi – Deobandi]
6 – Late. Dr Israr Ahmed [Former Deputy of Mawdudi]
7 – Late. Maulana Ameen Ahsan Islahi [Former number 2 of Mawdudi]
8 – Late. Agha Shoorish Kashmiri [Noted Scholar and Journalist]
9 – Late. Maulana Manzoor Naimani [One of the founder of Jamat-e-Islami and Deobandi scholar and also refuted Mawdudi in his book on Islamic Revolution of Iran]
10 – Safi ur Rahman Mubarakpuri [Author of Prophet Mohammad – PBUH's biography Ar Raheeq Al Makhtoom and he is an Indian Scholar and a Salafi]
11 – Late. Yousuf Saleem Chishti [Deobandi Sufi Scholar]
12 – Late. Maulana Abul Hasan Nadvi [Former Head of Darul Ulomm Deoband and Member Board of Medina University Saudi Arabia]
13 – Late. Mawlana Yousuf Binnori – Founder of Binnori Town refuted Mawdudi
14 – Late. Mawlana Abdul Majid Daryabadi pupil of Ashraf Ali Thanwi refuted Mawdudi.
Aaamir Mughal L@@SEE,
Why do you quote the people you yourself reject?
Why not quote someone you adore?
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:08 am Aaamir Mughal L@@SEE,
Why do you quote the people you yourself reject?
Why not quote someone you adore?
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I feel like it because you like to use abusive language I like to quote Mullahs on Mullahs:
Fatwas of conformists against non-conformists
“The non-conformist (ghair muqallid) sect, whose distinctive outward manner [of prayer] in this country is saying Amen aloud, raising the hands [during the prayer], folding the arms on the chest, and reciting the Al-Hamd behind the Imam, are excluded from the Sunnis, and are like other misguided sects, because many of their beliefs and practices are opposed to those of the Sunnis. It is not permissible to pray behind them. To mix with them socially and sit with them, and to let them enter mosques at their pleasure, is prohibited in Islamic Shari‘ah.” (This bears the seals of nearly seventy Ulama. Reference the book: Arguments with regard to the expulsion of Wahabis from mosques, p. 8.)
“He who calls conformism (taqlid) as prohibited, and conformists as polytheists, is a kafir according to Islamic Shari‘ah, and in fact a murtadd [apostate].” (Book: Discipline of mosques with regard to the expulsion of mischief-makers from mosques)
“It is obligatory upon the Ulama and Muftis that, by merely hearing of such a thing, they should not hesitate to issue fatwas of heresy and apostasy. Otherwise, they themselves would be included among the apostates.” (ibid.)
Ahmad Raza Khan, the Barelvi leader, has quoted the beliefs of all sections of the non-conformists, and given the fatwa:
“All these groups are murtadd and kafir. He who doubts their being kafirs, is himself a kafir.”(Book Hisam al Haramain)
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:08 am Aaamir Mughal L@@SEE,
Why do you quote the people you yourself reject? Why not quote someone you adore?
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Don't you know? I love Mullahs who declare each other Kaafir. They are like dogs who eat together and then fight.
Fatwas of non-conformists [Ahl-e-Hadith] against conformists [Deobandis and Barelvis]
“Question: What say the Ulama and the Muftis regarding the conformist (muqallid) group, who follow only one Imam [i.e. Hanafis]. Are they Sunnis or not? Is it valid to pray behind them or not? Is it permissible to allow them into mosques, and to mix with them socially?
“Answer: Undoubtedly, prayers are not permissible behind conformists because their beliefs and practices are opposed to those of the Sunnis. In fact, some of their beliefs and practices lead to polytheism, and others spoil prayers. It is not correct in Islamic Shari‘ah to allow such conformists into mosques.”
This bears the seals of nineteen priests. (Reference the book: Collection of Fatwas, pp. 54 – 55)
The late Nawab Siddiq Hasan Khan wrote:
“The word polytheist can be applied to conformists, and polytheism can be applied to conformism. Most people today are conformists. The Quranic verse, ‘Most people believe not, they are but polytheists’, applies quite well to them.” (Iqtarab as-Sa‘a, p. 16)
Not only Hanafis, but all of them:
“The followers of all the four Imams and the followers of the four Sufi orders, viz. Hanafi, Shafi‘i, Maliki, Hanbali, Chishtiyya, Qadiriyya, Naqshbandiyya and Mujaddidiyya are all kafirs.”(Jami al-Shuhood, p. 2)
Mawdudi, Jinnah and Pakistan??? [Part 5]
He accused Jinnah of not knowing the rudiments of Islam and condemned him for misguiding the Indian Muslims. Nationalism was incompatible with Islam [Reference: The Process of Islamic Revolution. by Sayyid Abul A'la Maududi]
If Pakistan was going to be a state where Western Democracy prevailed, it “will be as filthy (NA-PAKISTAN) as the other part” of the subcontinent. [Reference: Nationalism and India Sayyid Abul A'la Maududi]
Islam forbade the practice of imitation, and the adaptation of Western nationalism was nothing but imitation. “Muslim nationalist” is as contradictory a term as ‘chaste prostitute’ [Reference: Nationalism and India Sayyid Abul A'la Maududi]
He called the Muslim League leaders ‘morally dead’; they had no right to call their movement ‘Islamic’ [Musalman aur Maujuda Siyasi Kashmakash Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi Vol. III]
Ahmadi massacre silence is dispiriting
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/20…
Call a Spade, a Spade!
Al says: June 8, 2010 at 12:33 am This is just cherry picking history to suit the narrative that Maudidi(after the partition), the religious parties & the establishment wanted to & want to promote.
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Who is Muslim in Pakistan in the light of these Fatwas by the way. Which Muslim Ummah these Mullahs talk about: fatwa, deobandi kafir, brelvi kafir, ahle hadith kafir, kuttay, wahabi کافر http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X01htQUvKcQ&fe…!
Aamir,
Is there anyway we can throw these retard mullahz into ATLANTIC ocean peacefully ?
They have hijacked JINNAH's PAKISTAN completely.
Fatwa Manufacturing Industry of PAKISTAN:
http://ejang.jang.com.pk/6-11-2010/pic.asp?picnam…
MB says: – June 12, 2010 at 1:02 pm Aamir, Is there anyway we can throw these retard mullahz into ATLANTIC ocean peacefully ? They have hijacked JINNAH’s PAKISTAN completely.
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Here is the answer for this present mess: Click the link and read the details of Corruption of Alleged Leaders of the so-called Muslim Ummah – Corrupt, Vile & Filthy: Arabs, Aal-e-Saud, & Wahhaabis. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/06/corrupt-…
Molvis issuing fatwas on Ahmadis in national press;
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx…
This will get more Ahmadis killed.
Al says: – June 8, 2010 at 12:33 am This is just cherry picking history to suit the narrative that Maudidi(after the partition), the religious parties & the establishment wanted to & want to promote.
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Sayyid Abul A‘la Maudoodi – His views bearing on the Ahmadiyya Movement http://www.ahmadiyya.org/movement/maudoodi/index….
Scanned image of Maudoodi’s letter saying Lahore Ahmadiyya is a Muslim Group Page 1 (of 4) of the letter
(You can see that he has crossed out his old address, Hyderabad Deccan, on the printed letter head and written in Darus Salaam, Pathankot, Punjab in its place.)
http://www.ahmadiyya.org/movement/maudoodi/letter…
The translation: The Urdu text of the above section of Maudoodi’s letter, in printed format, is given below: http://www.ahmadiyya.org/movement/maudoodi/letter…
MB says: – June 12, 2010 at 1:02 pm Aamir, Is there anyway we can throw these retard mullahz into ATLANTIC ocean peacefully ? They have hijacked JINNAH’s PAKISTAN completely.
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Mawdudi Sahab at his best Against Pakistan and Jinnah and Muhajirs too: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs353…
One of the quote say that Participating in Elections is "Dog Race" what about Qazi Hussain, and Mian Tufail and JI under their leadership's participation in Election??? Who was Bull Dog and and who was Rabid Dog in that Race…..
More Mullahs: now watch the reality of Tahirul Qadri who had declared that he won't participate in Election which he did [he had declared it Haram] and do watch how he offered Five Prayers behind Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] after 1400 years and met Hazrat Hasan Ibn Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] : Love Tahir-ul-Qadri (Promo) Quadri Sahab said that Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] visited Pakistan – Watch and Weep, Lament or Laugh on The Fantasies. Love Tahir-ul-Qadri (Promo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn5Yj9RR2Q&fe…
Even More Mullahs: When he had declared that he cosnider it Haram to participate in Election 1989 then why did "this Liar" got himself elected in the first place – Vanity is the biggest Vice: Why Dr.Tahir ul Qadri Resigned from National Assembly of Pakistan ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsq1mZUamo
Minhaj Secret Meeting Banned Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9mrpKnavPM&fe…
These retards mullahz have no deen imaan . . . their only deen imaan is POWER and POSITION.
For it they can grow daadhi, act like an aalim and appear as namazi roze dar haaji etc.
This is a "notanki" to hijack people's faith and their sympathies.
Wake up pakistan and throw these 2 numbri munafiqs into ARABIAN SEA. . .
Only then IQBAL and JINNAH's PAKISTAN can be saved
Turning outrage into courage
http://tribune.com.pk/story/21017/turning-outrage…
@Nadir El-Edroos
A great write-up and very daring indeed to call a spade, a spade. But those who are led astray by God himself, as he himself says in his Quran, becomes immune to guidance. This is such a submissive nation that they would stand for hours together, along with women and children in the hot sun, without any grudge even, to let pass a gaudy ruler who monopolizes a public road for hours by clamping what the police-walas call a 'root'.
I wonder why these 'Piply' and 'Nawazi' rulers are afraid to call an Ahmadi sajidah-gaah, a masjid. Allah has killed their very 'mat'(Sense), it seems.
An colleague of mine took me once to Rabwah. I met a friend of mine their. Just when we were talking there was 'Azaan', coming from the Ahmadi mosque which was not perhaps banned by then. My friend asked me whether we might offer prayer with Ahmadies in their mosque. I said,"Why not: Does not the Quran say 'Warkaoo marraakaein' (Bow with those who bow before God)?"
As regards 'Masjid'it literally means 'a place for prostration (sajida)' by any body with whatever belief. In fact in Islam the entire face of earth has been declared as 'masjid'. Then how can any place where an Ahmadi offers 'sajida', not a 'masjid'.
But what use all this arguing with those who have lost all sense by being led astray in the name of Allah?
Read this “DEOBANDI KUFR [DISBELIEF] ” and you will certainly Laugh: “One person asked Khidr that,”Have you ever seen any wali who is better than you?” Khidr replied, “Yes, I have. I once visited the mosque of the Prophet. I saw Imaam Abdur Razzaq Muhaddith and he was teaching ahadith. The crowd and I listened to the ahadith from him. In one corner… See More of the masjid there was a youngster sitting who had kept his head between his knees away from the crowd. I said, Do you not see that ahadith of the Prophet are being taught? Why don’t you also attend the circle? He neither lifted his head nor did he look at me and said, “In that place are those who listen to ahadith from the slave of Razzaq and here are those who listen to ahadith from the Razzaq!” Hadhrat Khidr said that, “If you are indeed speaking the truth then tell who am I? He raised his head and said that, “If I am not mistaken, then you are Khidr.” Hadhrat Khidr then said, “From this I came to know that there are such wali of Allaah whom even I cannot recognize.”"
Allaahu Akbar! The pir (please notice that he has no name, no history and no background whatsoever. Just wild imaginations of Tableeghi Jamaa’at) in the above fable did not even raise his head and answered the questions of Khidr! And he listens to the Hadith from Allaah? The revelations comes down upon him? If Mirza Ghulam Qadiani makes such a … See Moreclaim all the scholars of Deobandh label him a kafir but what about the Kufr that is in their own books? Barelvis and Deobandi Tableeghi Jamaat – 3 http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/barelvis…
A critical note by Saudis on Deobandis [see how united the UMMAH is?] lol
The advent of another Prophet is quite possible. (Mulla Abdul Hai Farangi Mahli and Mulla Qasim Nanotwi [one of the founder of Deoband, Tahzeer-in-Nas, p.34, Athar Ibn Abbas, p.16)
Why blame Mirza when there were so many Mirza in Deoband.
Further to above, by the way i have noticed that Mr. Qadri's tone has softened a bit. He seems to have shifted , slightly, from HATE and JIHADI and TYPICAL TALIBAN type rhetoric to Knowledge-base discussions etc.
May be its just me but if you check the earlier videos of Mr Qadri from 80s and 90s and then recent ones, there is slight change in his tone.
Is Pakistan like Israel or North Korea?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/19048/is-pakistan-lik…
Is Pakistan like Israel?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/20809/is-pakistan-lik…
Hakeem Sahab,
IMHO. Pakistan's founders were Lawyers and Landlords whereas Israel' Founders were Wanted Terrorists in Europe. Entry of Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, and countless others in Graet Britain was banned.
Hakeem,
This writer, Khaled Ahmed is like other Gand@@ Mufakkirs.
Here is a typical statement of such *mufakkirs*…
Mullahs in Pakistan and rabbis in Israel wield power…
Mullahs in Pakistan wield power? dohhh..
I guess he thinks Zardari as Mullah, he thinks Altaf Hussain as Mullah, he thinks of leaders of ANP as Mullah and Rahman Dakait as Mullah or does he think Kiyani as Mullah?
I don't know what is the criteria to write in English? Are you taught to ridicule Mullahs and Islam before learning abc or after learning the ABC?
Censorship at Express — which century do we live in?
http://cafepyala.blogspot.com/2010/06/point-blank…
"Mullahs in Pakistan wield power? dohhh.."
@jibran:
See this news and check out who is wielding power on the supposed most prominent leader of Pakistan;
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=244…
What about Maulana diesel who gets away with his wishes?
Hypocrisy of Jamat-e-Islami/MMA, Mullahs & Secular Judiciary of Pakistan. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/04/hypocris…
Maulana Fazlur Rehman and Opportunism.
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/maulana-…
Hakeem,
Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him.
This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari.
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him.
This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari.
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Dear Jibran,
When did this happen? When he was leading the MMA or now? Any news clipping.
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari. jibran says: June 16, 2010 at 7:15 am yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
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Dear Jibran Sahab,
Time for you to cry on Blasphemy uttered by Deobandi Mullahs in their filthy books.
Do not try to understand the Qur'ân ever. Else, you will go astray. Fifteen “Uloom” (sciences) are required to understand the Book. (“Maulana” Zakaria Kandhalwi, Fazael Amaal, p.2)
Do not read the Qur'ân with understanding, you will go astray. (Fazaael Aamal, “Maulana” Ashraf Ali Thanwi, p. 216)
It is mentioned in Aamaal-e-Qur'aani, p. 134 by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi [published by Jasim Book Depot, Urdu Bazaar, Jama Masjid, Delhi] that if a woman has excessive menstrual bleeding, the verse (Surah Al-'Imran: 3:144) should be written on three different pieces of paper, one tied on her right and the other on her left and the third piece of paper with the Qur'ânic verse to be hung below the naval. This verse of the Qur'aan, "Muhammad (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) is no more than a Messenger, and indeed (many) Messengers have passed away before him. If he dies or is killed, will you then turn back on your heels (as disbelievers)? And he who turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah, and Allah will give reward to those who are grateful." [Surah Al-'Imran: 3:144]
The holy messenger came to Shah Waliullah (in the 18 century!) and said, “Why do you worry? Your children are the same as mine.” (Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Hikayat-ul-Awlia)
The prophet laid the foundation of Darul-Uloom, Deoband, India (in the 19th century) He comes to check accounts of the school. He has learnt the Urdu language. (Mubasshirat-e-Darul Uloom, and Deoband Number of the Darul-Uloom)
When Shah Waliullah was in his mother’s womb, she said a prayer. Two tiny hands (too) appeared for prayer. She was frightened. Her husband said, "You have Qutubul-Aqtab (Wali of Walis) in your womb (Hikayat-e-Awlia, p. 17 Ashraf Ali Thanwi) What a break-through!
The prophet laid the foundation of Darul-Uloom, Deoband, India (in the 19th century) He comes to check accounts of the school. He has learnt the Urdu language. (Mubasshirat-e-Darul Uloom, and Deoband Number of the Darul-Uloom)
Jibran Sahab,
Dil aur Jigar Tham kar parh lijay:
The advent of another Prophet is quite possible. (Mulla Abdul Hai Farangi Mahli and Mulla Qasim Nanotwi, Tahzeer-in-Nas, p.34, Athar Ibn Abbas, p.16) Why blame Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani only?
Risala Tazkara of Darul-uloom Deoband of 1965 claims: Anyone suffering from malaria who took dust from the grave of “Maulana” Yaqoob Nanotwi and tied this dust to his body, found instant relief.
Allaah cuts jokes with the Ulama of Deoband. One of them went to a well for “Wudu” (Ablution) He lowered the bucket in the well. It came back full of silver. The Holy man said to Allaah: Don’t kid around! I am getting late for prayers. He lowered the bucket in again and this time it came back full of gold. (Risala Tazkara of Darul-uloom Deoband of April 1965)
June 16, 2010 at 8:58 am jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari. jibran says: June 16, 2010 at 7:15 am yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
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Dear Jibran Sahab,
Aamaal-e-Qur’aani, p. 134 by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi [published by Jasim Book Depot, Urdu Bazaar, Jama Masjid, Delhi] The book and other books used by Deobandis and Barelvi book Shama Shabistan-e-Raza by Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi have many Chilla, Wazeefa and Black Magic Tricks and Taweez Ganda through using Quran [I have read every single one of them] and for Magic following is the Punishment as per Islamic Law.
Do you even know the penalty of practicing Black Magic/Sorcery as per Islam? Mullahs issue Fatwa of Murder from Pulpit whereas practicing Magic is punishable by Death in Islam.
I wonder have you read Deobandi's Magic Books e.g. Aaml-e-Qurani/Beheshti Zewar, Maktoobat-e-Biyaz Yaqoobi etc. or Barelvi Magic Book name Shama Shabistan-e-Raza … See Moreby Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi.
I wont quote Fatwa of Mullahs but commandment from Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]
“The hadd (prescribed punishment) for the practitioner of magic is a blow with the sword (i.e., execution).” (Sunnan Tirmidhi, Daaraqutni, Mustadrak al-Haakim, Sunan al Bayhaqi]
Justice Taqi Usmani and Rafi Usmani's Publication House "Daarul Ishaat" publish such filthy books and earn million.
Al says: June 16, 2010 at 6:39 pm And i am not a member of the tableeghi jamaat.
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Dear Al,
I was addressing the query of Mr Jibran.
Aamir Mughal: I think you are quoting the Fazail-e-Amal on reading the Quran out of context.
I did some online research because i was surprised at what you claimed was written in the Tableeghi Jamaat books.
This is from the English Translation of "Virtues of Quran" written by Maulana Zakariyah:
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"Hadhrat Ibn Mas'ood (Radhiyallaho anho) said, "If you
seek knowledge, you should meditate on the meanings of
the Qur'an, because it embodies the history of former as
well as of latter times." It is, however, essential to observe the prerequisites for interpreting the Qur'an. An unbecoming present-day fashion is that even those who possess little or no knowledge of Arabic vocabulary offer their personal opinion on the basis of vernacular translations of the Qur'an. Specialists have laid down that any one attempting a commentary of the Holy Qur'an should be well versed in fifteen subjects. These, as briefly given below, will show that it is not possible for everybody to understand the underlying significance and real meanings of the Holy Qur'an." //
It says that anyone attempting a COMMENTARY on the Quran should have knowledge of these 15 subjects. These subjects are related to understanding of the Arabic language. And i think this is not an unreasonable expectation from anyone who wants to give commentaries on the Quran.
Plus the text says that 'specialists say' this. It does not portray this as a religious injunction that must be followed at all costs.
Those interested can read the entire text here:
http://www.islamibayanaat.com/EnglishLiterature/E… (Go to Page 15 for this part mentioned above)
All the books (English translations) of Fazail-e-Amal are here:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?30…
And i am not a member of the tableeghi jamaat.
Mughal: Acutally i had a previous comment that is stuck in moderation. Read that & you will understand.
I never really cared for Ahmadis
http://tribune.com.pk/story/21267/i-never-really-…
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari. jibran says: June 16, 2010 at 7:15 am yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
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Dear Jibran read the following Gems from books which are taught in Deoband and Bareli Madressahs for your spiritual uplift.
What I have learned through different sources that these Deobandis and Barelvis are basically the same with minor differences they both allegedly follow the Fiqh [Attributed to Imam Abu Haneefah] Hanafi and his followers and books these Deobandi and Barelvi read, quotes of which are as under:
Radd al-Muhtar ala ad-Dur al-Mukhtar is a book on Islam by 19th century Hanafi Scholar Ibn Abidin. A commentary on Imam al-Haskafi’s Durr al-Mukhtar, it is commonly known as Radd al-Muhtar. It is said to be a compilation of the great Fatwas of Imam Abu Hanifa [May Allah have mercy on his soul], and Hidayah is the name of a famous Hanafi juridical work by Burhan-ud-din Ali bin Abi Bakr al-Marghinani (1152-1197) which is considered widely authoritative as a guide to Fiqh amongst Muslims in Central Asia, Afghanistan and India, and is the basis for much of the Anglo-Islamic law in India and Pakistan.
Now read the excerpts from these two Books through which Deobandi and Barelvi Calamity in Pakistan want to Implement Islamic Law. Rampant Lal Mosque Anarchist, Binori Town, Madressah Haqqania, Talibans and other such Anarchist called these perversions mentioned below The Islamic Law!
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1 – Be the curse of Allah be on those who reject Imam Abu Hanifa (Muqadimah dar Mukhtar)
2 – When The Prophet Issa [Jesus – PBUH] will come back he will follow the Madhab [Fiqh] of Abu Hanifa (Muqadimah dar Mukhtar)
3 – Khidr spent 30 years to learn knowledge from Abu Hanifa, then Qushayri learnt from Khidr during 3 years and he wrote more than 1000 books and put them in a box in the sea. When Isa aley salam will take these books and act upon them. (Muqadimah dar Mukhtar)
3 – Is someone pays a woman to do zina [adultery] , there is no hadd [no punishment] ( Dar Mukhtar, kitab Hudud, fatawa khaniyah misr vol 3 p 508, kanz daqaiq ed deoband p 180, and this fatwa is attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa while his two students say there is hadd [Adultery Law]. It is well known that the hanafi books of fiqh there is no Chain of Narration [isnad] to their Imam)
4 – The salary of the prostitute is halal [lawful] (Chalpi shara Wiqayah)
5 – If he pays a woman to do zina or wati [Adultery or Intercourse] or if he says I will give you so much dirham or she says give me so much, there is no had [no punishment under Adultery Law] (Alamgiri, vol 2 p 168)
6 – If someone does jima [intercourse] with an animal or with a dead or a young girl and there is no inzal [ejaculation] , then ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah, masail ghusl, aussi Alamgiri, Kitab taharah)
7 – If someone does sodomy with a woman who fasts or a man who fasts, their fast is not broken (Hidayah, Kitab Sawm)
8 – If a young boy of 10 does Jima [intercourse] with a balighah [adult] Woman, there is no Ghusl [bathe]( Alamgiri Kitab taharah)
9 – If someone enters his penis in his dubur (anus), then ghusl is not obligatory (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)
10 – If a man in his dubur [anus] or a woman in her vagina enters the penis of the dead, or his finger, or wood, there is no ghusl [bathe](Hidayah Kitab Taharah)
11 – If someone enters the penis of an animal in her vagina or dubur [anus], the ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab Taharah Masail Ghusl)
12 – If someone enters the penis of a boy without desire in her vagina or dubur [anus], the ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)
13 – After doing Jima [Intercourse] with a young girl, it is not necessary to clean his penis (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)
14 – If someone does jima [intercourse] with a virgin and the maidenhead is not broken, ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)
15 – If someone does wati [intercourse] in the dubur [have anal sex or commit bestiality] of an animal or in his anus and there is no inzal, then Ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Hidayah kitab taharah)
16 – If the balighah woman [adult woman] does wati [intercourse] with a young boy or with a crazy, then the woman has no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
17 – If someone does wati [intercourse] with a non balighah woman [non adult woman], or with a dead or an animal, there is no hadd [punishment] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
18 – If someone does zina [adultery] with the salve of his child or great child, there is no hadd (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
19 – If someone does zina [adultery] with the slave of grand father or grand mother, there is no Hadd [Punishment for Adultery](Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
20 – If someone has a slave in rahn (security for loan) and he does zina [adultery], there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
21 – If someone does nikah [Marriage] with a mahram [sister, mother or daughter or real blood aunt] for ever woman and consider it halal [lawful], there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery](Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
22 – The woman that are for ever forbidden, and he does nikah and he even if he considers that haram [Unlawful] , there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud, et Alamgiri who attribute that to Imam Abu Hanifa)
23 – If he does nikah [marriage] with a woman and joins in nikah his wife’s sister or mother, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery]
(Alamgiri)
24 – If he does temporary marriage [Muta’ah] and he considers that haram [Unlawful], there is no hadd [[Punishment for Adultery] (Alamgiri)
25 – If someone does nikah with a woman who is married before, and he knows she has a husband and it is haram [Unlawful] , there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] Fatawa Khaniya misr vol 3 p 508)
26 – There is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] of zina [Adultery] for the one who cannot speak, neither any hadd [Punishment for Adultery] for something else, even if the witness are present and he admits with isharah [gesture] or by writing (Alamgiri misr, vol 2 p 168)
27 – If someone kidnaps a slave, does zina [Adultery] and pay his responsible [Owner] for her price, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
28 – If someone gives permission to another to do zina [Intercourse] with his slave, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Alamgiri vol 2 p 169)
29 – If the Khalifah or the imam or the king does zina [ADULTERY] there is no hadd [PUNISHMENT] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud) [also in Hidaya and that Hidaya is being taught in Pakistani Madressah]
30 – There is no hadd for sodomy [Anal Intercourse] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
31 – If someone does zina [ADULTERY] in dar ul harb [Land/Country of Infidels] or in the land of revolted people, there is no hadd [PUNISHMENT] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
32 – The muslim can take riba [Interest] from a Infidel, in dar ul harb [Land/Country of Infidels] (Dar Mukhtar vol 4 p 209)
33 – This is also true for the one who becomes muslim and does not do Hijrah, whe can take riba from him( Dar Mukhtar vol 4 p 210)
34 – If someone prays holding a dog in his hands, his prayer is not fasid [INVALID] (Dar Mukhtar misr vol 1 p 153)
35 – If someone in prayer watches the private part of a woman, his prayer [Salat] is not broken [means it will remain valid] ( Maraqi Al falah misr vol 1 p 200)
36 – If someone watches at book of fiqh during prayer, is prayer is not broken. ( Alamgiri vol,1 p 106)
37 – If someone prays and holds the Quran and reads from it, is prayer is fasid [Invalid] (Dar Mukhtar vol 1 p 641)
38 – If in the conditions of Imam in the first cases there is equality, then The one whose wife is more beautiful ( Dar Mukhtar vol 1 p 412)
39 – Then the one who has the biggest head and the shortest member [Penis](Dar Mukhtar vol 1 p 412)
40 – The meaning of member is penis (Rad Mukhtar Sharh Dar Mukthar, p 413)
41 – The one who does watch the vagina of a woman in a miror or in water, then the mother of this woman is forbidden to him (Dur Mukhtar, Kitab Nikah, fasl fil Muharamat)
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yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari.
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Dear Jibran,
Voters of Mawlana Fazlur Rehman are mostly Deobandis now read what Deobandis says about Jamat-e-Islami!!!
Do read Khilafat o Malookiyat [original version and several issues of Tarjumnaul Quran] by Mawdudi Calamity again and differentiate between History and Tabbarrah. Mawdudi, his deviant books and his deviants followers of Jamat-e-Islami were thoroughly exposed by not ILLITERATE Barelvis but leading Deobandi and Wahabi Maulvis read the following books on Mawdudi’s Tabbarah on Sihaba Kiram and Prophets [PBUT].
There is book written “Khilafat wa Malookiyat Ki Tareekhi Aur Shariee Haisiyat [Authenticity and Relity of Caliphat and Kingdom by Mawdudui] by Hafiz Salahuddin Yousuf [Editor of Weekly Eitisaam, Lahore Pakistan , he is a Salafi Scholar and if you get that book then please note that in preface following Deobandi and even Barelvi Scholar praised the above book on the refutation ofr Mawdudi's Deviant and Blasphemic Beliefs regarding the Companions of Prophet Mohammad. You have already praised Deobandi Mullahs in one of your mail and following Mullahs [not ordinary Jahil Taliban] praised the book:
1 – Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani [Deobandi]
2 – Justice Taqi Usmani [Deobandi]
3 – Maulana Ziauddin Islahi [Daar ul Musanifeen Azam Garh India]
4 – Maulana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi [Binnori Town – Deobandi]
5 – Maulana Ghulamullah Khan [Rawalpindi – Deobandi]
6 – Dr Israr Ahmed [Former Deputy of Mawdudi]
7 – Maulana Amee Ahsan Islahi [Former number 2 of Mawdudi]
8 – Agha Shoorish Kashmiri [Noted Scholar and Journalist]
9 – Maulana Manzoor Naimani [One of the founder of Jamat-e-Islami and Deobandi scholar and also refuted Mawdudi in his book on Islamic Revolution of Iran]
10 – Safi ur Rahman Mubarakpuri [Author of Prophet Mohammad – PBUH's biography Ar Raheeq Al Makhtoom and he is an Indian Scholar and a Salafi]
11 – Yousuf Saleem Chishti [Deobandi Sufi Scholar]
12 – Maulana Abul Hasan Nadvi [Former Head of Darul Ulomm Deoband and Member Board of Medina University Saudi Arabia]
These are not some illiterate Deobandi Ulema:
1 – Maulana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi – Binnori Town refuted Mawdudi.
2 – Mawlana Yousuf Binnori – Founder of Binnori Town refuted Mawdudi
3 – Mawlana Abdul Majid Daryabadi pupil of Ashraf Ali Thanwi refuted Mawdudi.
Abul Ala Maudoodi and his party have been the subject of fatwas by Ulama of nearly every sect.
Mufti Muhzar-ullah, of Jami Fatehpuri in Delhi, wrote in his fatwa:
“On the very face of it, these things [beliefs of Maudoodi’s party] exclude a Muslim from the Sunnis, and lead to divisions among the believers, and is the basis of making a new sect. But looking closely, these things take one to heresy. In this case, they do not make a new sect, but result in one’s entry into the group of apostates.”
Maulana Hafiz-ullah of Aligarh has written:
“Whatever was the position of the Zarar mosque, similar is the position of this [i.e. Maudoodi’s] party.”
[Note: The Zarar mosque was a mosque built by some hypocrite Muslims in Madina during the Holy Prophet’s time for the purpose of conspiring against Islam].
The word kufr is used about the Zarar mosque in the Holy Quran. Hence the same word applies to these people.
Maulana Izaz Ali, Deobandi, wrote in his fatwa:
“I consider this [i.e. Maudoodi’s] party to be even more harmful for the faith of the Muslims than are the Ahmadis.”
Mufti Sayyid Mahdi Hasan, President-Mufti of the theological school at Deoband, writes in his fatwa:
“If an Imam of a mosque agrees with the views of Maudoodi, it is a hateful matter to pray behind him.”
Maulana Husain Ahmad Madani (Deobandi) wrote in a letter to Maudoodi:
“Your ‘Islamic’ movement is against the righteous tradition in Islam. It is like the [extremist] sects of old such as Mu‘tazila, Khwarij and Rafiz. It resembles modern sects such as Qadiani, Chakralvi [deniers of Hadith], Naturi [rationalist], and Baha’i [i.e. the Baha’i religion]. It seeks to make a new Islam. It is based on principles, beliefs and practices which are against the Sunnis and Islam.”
The Committee of Ulama of Maulana Ahmad Ali wrote in a poster against Maudoodi:
“His reasoning is devilry against the Quran.”
It is then added:
“May God save all Muslims from Maudoodi and the evil and deceit of his so-called Islamic Party.”
The Mawdudi Calamity! By Maulana Yusuf Ludhiyanwi (RA)
http://www.central-mosque.com/aqeedah/Mawdudi.htm
The writer of the article, well-recognised by the non-Arab as well as Arab Ulama and a well recognised expert in Firqa-e-Baatila (deviated sects), Moulana Muhammad Yusuf Ludhianwi (RA), has maintained his intellectual honesty by fulfilling his scholarly responsibility of pointing out (criticizing) Mr. Mawdudi. The writer is concerned that Mr. Mawdudi has attacked the very fiber and backbone of Islam by criticizing the illustrious Prophets and building a wall between the Ummah and the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum). In his constitution, Mr. Mawdudi says, 'No human should be made a measure of truth besides Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam).'. but Allah Ta'ala clearly declares the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum) as a measure of truth in the innumerable verses of the Qur'aan NS in particular, Chapter 2 verse 13 and chapter 48 (Fath), Verse 29.
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari. jibran says:
June 16, 2010 at 7:15 am yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
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MMA and Barelvi Fatwa against Deobandis and Ahl-e-Hadith:
Here lies the so-called Muslim Ummah! – 3 READ AND LAMENT
"Fatwa of three hundred Ulama against Deobandis
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie…
Why don't Mullah declare that Iqbal was Kaafir as well because Iqbal denied second coming of Prophet Jesus [PBUH] and Imam Mehdi [Ummah hasn't decided whthere he will be Shia or Sunni]:
Witness Divine descent on your heart’ tower,
Give up the wait for Mahdi or the Messiah!
Allama Iqbal has a very saying about Mehdi’s Image.
thay tu woh aa’ba tumharay tum kya ho
haath per haath dharay muntazir-e-farda ho
Iqbal,
howi jis key khudi pehlay baidar, hay wohi mehdi
He wrote in a poem in Armaghan-e-Hijaz
“Is the son of Mary dead, or does he live?
Are Divine attributes separate from God, or one with His Person?… See More
Is the Coming one the Nazarene Jesus, or a Mujaddid having the son of Mary’s qualities?
Are the Divine words created, or pre-existing from eternity, In which belief does lie the salvation of the Ummah?
Are not sufficient for the Muslims today, These Lat and Manat [idols] carved out by theology.”
One of the letter of Allama Iqbal from Iqbal Nama has this text:
“I can only tell you what I believe. I consider the Hadith reports about the Mahdi, the coming Messiah, and mujaddidiyya, to be derived from Persian and non-Arab conceptions. They have no connection with Arab concepts or the true spirit of the Quran.”
In Baqiyat Iqbal, p. 451… See More
“Look for the descent of God upon the minaret of your own heart,
And give up waiting even for the Mahdi or Jesus.”
In Khutba-e-Madras
“As far as I understand the meaning of this movement, the Ahmadis believe that Jesus died the death of a mortal human being, and the return of the Messiah refers to a person who bears spiritual similarity to him. This belief gives this movement a rational appearance.”
Sheikh M Ikram in one of his books Mauj Kausar, Aab-e-Kausar and Rood-e-Kausar had written that if Hanafis Law Book Fatawa-e-Alamgiri's Apostasy Law is fully implemented then nobody would remain Muslims in the Sub Continent.
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Time for Laugh
ایک ہی ہوں مسلم حرام کی پاسبانی کے لیہ
نیل کے ساحل سے لے کر تابخا کے کاشغر تک “سب کافر ہیں
Point Blank: Ahmadis are heretics (worthy of killing), more Ahmadi deaths to follow
http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20100617/…
What's wrong with these anchors? In another country they would have been arrested by now for incitement to death but in Pakistan its supposed to be a good thing.
http://tinyurl.com/3xqlt4y
Hate Speech
A strong case can be made against the JI leader for fomenting aggression and religious persecution under the country’s laws regarding hate speech and incitement to violence. – Photo on file
The street power and political clout wielded by Pakistan’s religious right have resulted in the state and society being held hostage by extremist elements. The latter stop at nothing to further their agenda of inciting hatred, divisiveness and violence. The latest example is that of the Jamaat-i-Islami chief, Syed Munawwar Hasan, who during a sermon in Lahore on Friday threatened a fresh movement against the Ahmadi community if it “did not accept their minority status” and the government kept silent about “their blasphemous and unconstitutional activities”.
Mr Hasan did not specify any particular instance substantiating his charges, leading one to read his comments as hate speech and also as an attempt to blackmail the government into further victimising an already persecuted community. Given the incendiary passions the issue arouses, any call by religious parties in this context is certain to be attended by violence. A strong case can be made against the JI leader for fomenting aggression and religious persecution under the country’s laws regarding hate speech and incitement to violence.
Even beyond this particular case, it has now become a matter of urgency that the government show an active and uncompromising stance on the issue of hate speech and incitement to violence or other sorts of criminal activity. Pakistan’s polity is already rent by religious, ethnic and sectarian divisions. Allowing irresponsible and divisive opinions to be aired publicly will deepen these fissures. Once it begins, the process of religious, ethnic and other communities being pitted against one another will prove difficult to bring under control. Spiralling violence, particularly in view of other issues being faced by the country such as militancy and terrorism, can then be expected. It is in the interests of both the state and citizenry to take a stand against inflammatory hate speech and lobby for the prosecution of those who break the law.
Dawn Editorial
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-…
Between the years 2005 and 2010, Abdullah was the nazim of the Islami Jamiat Taleba (IJT). Sometime during this period he was given training at the JD’s armed wing, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), in Azad Jammu and Kashmir. Doctor admits playing role in Lahore attacks Tuesday, 27 Jul 2010 http://tribune.com.pk/story/31327/doctor-admits-p…
Jinnah doctor ‘missing’ By Our Staff Reporter Thursday, 15 Jul, 2010 Jinnah Hospital’s chief executive Dr Javed Akram told Dawn that Dr Abdullah had been Islami Jamiat Tulaba nazim at the Allama Iqbal Medical College. http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-…
Karman Khan says Jamat e Islami Terrorist Dr. Usman was mastermind of Attack on GHQ URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeUXYXiAkyM&fe…
JI splinter group leader, females held for links to suicide attackers Friday, December 18, 2009 By Umar Cheema http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=214063