The fiasco started as #FamilyGate, turned into a #MalikGate, morphed into #MediaGate and suddenly I was thrushed into a weird fiasco which I choose to call as #TwitterGate. Unless you have been sleeping under a rock im sure you must have read Pakistans obsession with the “Gate fiasco” somewhere along the line, watergate to memogate etc etc, It seems Pakistanis are ready to rename all possible gates in Lahore and beyond
TwitterGate takes birth on the afternoon of 14th June 2012. When suddenly scanned copies of a Baharia Town documents appeared on the social networks, it listed about 19 top journalists to have been allegedly favored by the Bahria town owners in one form of the other, [this release comes hours after the off-air DunyaTV youtube video hits the social network hours earlier]. Noticing these images, I choose to share the image by ProPakistani at 4:05 pm on my facebook profile
The ProPakistani had actually picked it up from a twitter account of Abdullah Saad (@Kursed) who had actually posted this a status update on Twitter
Post Deleted
— Abdullah Saad (@Kursed) June 14, 2012
Upon talking to Abdullah Saad today he categorically says that the image was not posted by him, but instead was a ReTweet of a particular media personality, whose tweet he ReTweeted (new style), when “the media personality” deleted his own tweet, it actually resulted in Abdullah Saad’s tweet also being deleted. The name of the media personality mentioned by Abdullah Saad was given to me but I choose to with-hold the name until I can get his own point of view [I’m paying caution to the wind lest i be sucked in an another circus]
[Read an update at the bottom of this post]
My second facebook update was made at 4:31pm after I discovered that the ProPakistani had only one page [3rd page] and Meri Jan Pakistan had the entire 4-page set on their facebook page in an album titled #MediaGate
After this post almost 29 minutes after from my “first Facebook (ProPakistani) status update” I tweeted the following at precisely 4:34pm on 14th June 2012. This was then also the first time I shared this on twitter and by then twitter was brimming full of these documents, if for an example even Kursed himself had retweeted the particular update well before 4:05pm, to have been picked up by ProPakistani and then to have been re-shared by myself
19 anchors on MR’s Bahria Town land list – most will have a tough time to deflect this accusation #MalikGate on.fb.me/NAu2Wp
— Awab Alvi (@DrAwab) June 14, 2012, 4:34pm
COMMENTS
- No where have I been involved in the “release or creation of this list” – I issue an open challenge to anyone to find any link, IP address to find that I personally helped create the list or to have uploaded this document.
- The mere fact that roughly 39 people [as of writing of this post] retweeted a tweet after it had already been in circulation prior to 4:05pm does not mean that the blaming finger points to a person whose tweet “was viewed by the most number of times” versus anyone elses’.
- If the accusation, that I should have verified the document before sharing – can be the possible debate, but the brunt of the accusation thrown upon me for the past two days, is to have been the “original uploader” &/or “have been involved in the creation” of this list – Which I am neither
- The slanderous campaign on Dunya TV and on Bolta Pakistan is uncalled for, as much as they accuse me for not verifying a document, I stand to question them in-turn – these “Professional Journalists” have initiated a slanderous campaign against me without verifying the facts, they accused me of creating the document but did not even so much as care to investigate the facts or the digital trail, two wrongs dont make a right.
- Nusrat Javed Sb was mighty irritated on the evening of the 14th on Bolta Pakistan, after having been cyber bullied by many on twitter, Im sure he along with many other anchors must have received a number of attacks, for which he generally has chosen to clump them to have been “directed by PTI”. Nusrat Sb, with all due respect, PTI Social Media team (including me) have absolutely no control over any twitter user, we advocate our supporters to discuss issues with decency and respect but there is no way we can control or censor what a random person might say.
- Absolutely no one is under my personal direction nor is delegated by me to run such malicious campaign against any journalist or any person whatsoever
- With the possibility of so many fake & random accounts that can exist on twitter, we would like to draw your attention that there could very well be a deliberate & malicious attempt by our opponents to mal-align PTI, I’m not transferring the blame away but it must seriously be factored in.
Nusrat Sb goes on to accuse me on his Bolta Pakistan page to be running the PTI-troll army
This SMS I just got from a PTI-insider from abroad: Nusrat Sahab the man behind all this propaganda against us is Dr Awab Alvi. He gives instructions to all the PTI trolls on social media. He was also behind that list.”
My response, Sir, is your journalistic research dependent upon an SMS? I’m sure not, I do hope that your PTI-Insider has more to show for than a mere 180 character message. Let me reassure you PTI totally and fully denounces abusive language, neither the party not its social media team has any interest in creating enemies from media personalities. Our team is open to suggestions on how to handle this growing problem and remain open to ideas and suggestions for the same, we cannot stop / censor the internet, mere reinforcement by leaders does not solve the issue, hence a dilemma worth frothing over
I must admit, due to the emotionless 140-character paradigm of twitter there are times when a certain irritated slapstick jab, possibly a wrong selection of words, can be perceived as abuse [non-profanity], but we all try to avoid such situations and advocate others to do the same
Hence in conclusion – neither PTI nor I, have any link or association with this document, the public discourse after its release has more or less been shrugged off as false
A good read as well – Facts that Nusrat Sahib missed
UPDATE June 17th 15:00: On June 12th at 12:59am it seems Wajahat Khan posted a link to the youtube video which has the same names of the anchors listed – he posted the same to his own followers on twitter and facebook
Here it is. The allegedly ‘corrupt journo’ list which was ‘released’ in Lahore MT @GMustafaaa: youtube.com/watch?v=GFJnA0… @Razarumi #Bahria #CJ
— Wajahat S. Khan (@WajSKhan) June 11, 2012
Who had tweeted the youtube from Ghulam Mustafa at 12:42am on 12th June
@AsadKharal Are you talking about this list circulating for a few days.youtube.com/watch?v=GFJnA0… — Ghulam Mustafa (@GMustafaaa) June 11, 2012
And in their discussion Asad Kharal, Express Tribune reporter mentioned in reference at 12:36am
Out of total 8 journalists as many as four anchors/columnists have been belonging to only one media group — Asad Kharal (@AsadKharal) June 11, 2012
It seems the Twitter and Facebook digital trail ends at or near this time frame Wajahat, Ghulam Mustafa & Asad Kharal were discussing this list almost two days prior to it appearing on the 14th afternoon, it might be best to ask them to clarify the origins of this list?
UPDATE #2 17th June 19:30: Digging a little deeper it seems the Youtube Video that Wajahat & Ghulam Mustafa shared was actually uploaded on 7th of June 2012 [go to the Youtube video and click stats to see the necessary data] the first site to upload it was on a forum on PKPOLITICS – the URL http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/%d8%b5%d8%ad%d8%a7%d9%81%db%8c%d8%8c-%d8%ac%d8%b1%d9%86%db%8c%d9%84%d8%8c-%d8%b3%db%8c%d8%a7 it is now not accessible, and may have been moderated out, while at the same time the user made multiple posts on Twitter, Facebook & Siasat.pk. It seems to be a random user making multiple posts and possibly got moderated. Of the four sites uploading it first, it might be prudent for the investigation team to issue a show-cause notice by NR3C and get the necessary IP addresses from PkPolitics &/or Siasat.pk [since Twitter and Facebook would definitely not oblige] Once you track the video you can figure out where did the TwitterGate actually originate from.
UPDATE #3 June 18th 23:00: The digital trail seems to end at Asad Kharal who at 12:17am on June 12th shares that a list of distributed at the Punjab Assembly
list distributed in Punjab Assembly, contains names of anchors includingfemale anchor,allegedly received money, plots, fromMalik Riaz.
— Asad Kharal (@AsadKharal) June 11, 2012
Seeing this tweet I’m furious, this document was circulated outside the Punjab Assembly in front of hundreds of Lawmakers, Not one person had the decency to confess up or point out the facts to Nusrat Javed Sb that this list originated from an individual in the Punjab Assembly.
A so-called jounrliast like Nusrat Javed should have done the necessary research before mouthing off allegations, on me and PTI. I personally can only thank him for all the media attention it got me, but I should have the right to challenge Nusrat Javed to have the decency to issue an apology, is he above the norms of decency? must be since when we challenged he flatly refused
Comments
178 responses to “TwitterGate & a Response to Nusrat Javed Sb”
will be made viral tomorrow, make sure its posted on all official pages bro @DrAwab @javeedNusrat
@PTIrevolution bhai jee nusrat peokar per bhi koi trend hona chahiye 😀 kya khayal hai ? @DrAwab @javeedNusrat
@Aashoor we tried to trend #ShutUpNusratJaved but it was too late, but I dont know cos we have a nationwide protest on 18th so.. @DrAwab
@Aashoor we might focus on promoting that
@DrAwab You just cant term this lowlife a 'professional journalist'. He needs therapy asap. Stunned by his tweets to people & troll feeding.
The only problem with your action is that you shared it without confirmation and since you are now considered as a known blogger or social media activist so it went a bit bad. Another factor they used against you is that you are the son of Dr Arif Alvi and its in fashion now days to criticize PTI badly and when some supporters criticize that criticism then act like a cry baby on media.
@DrAwab @javeedNusrat What a brilliant response Mr Alvi.Tho I blieve Mr Javed wont change his attitude towards PTI…
@DrAwab @javeedNusrat Well delineation of the whole scene.But damage has already been done
@DrAwab @javeedNusrat @arsched those who's a little sense of twittr wl easily understand you but (cont) http://t.co/OydT092k
@HabibaButt
I ho through the whole thing yesterday, trust me guys from us use abusive language.!!! I observed it.
@moawais16 You read his tweets? Pta ni kese control karra va hai hum ne 😀
@HabibaButt
I know all, but I can't clap with one hand, isn't it.?
@DrAwab @javeednusrat nice reply doc.hope NJ sb will reconsider it.Baba jee hun to Jan diyo. sadi wari aan diyo.lol
@DrAwab @javeedNusrat Good response. I wonder if Nusrat sahib would even take a look at a this..0_0
@DrAwab @javeednusrat I wonder if those who accuse on live tv shows now have the decency of apologising on the same live shows.
@DrAwab @javeedNusrat good work, but I doubt it would make a difference, as truth rarely changes prejudice 🙂
@DrAwab you shld not waste ur time on this characterless person @javeedNusrat .
@mubasherabad http://t.co/uHrEUc5K
@kjk786 for God sake why to use word Sb for @javeedNusrat @DrAwab
@DrAwab Wonderful response!
@AhmerMurad @DrAwab dont knw abt him..but Dr Awab surely is ;)!!
@faizanlakhani @DrAwab @Shafqat_Mahmood @arsched For the Mis-understanding I guess,What else??
@DrAwab Good work Dr Awab nice tight slap with proofs on the face of serial abuser now #ShutUpNusratJaved
@faizanlakhani As an observer, i see unnecessary magnification of tweets by certain individuals. @DrAwab @Shafqat_Mahmood @arsched
@faizanlakhani As for the apology, its nice of Shafqat Sb., but it has happened before too. @DrAwab @Shafqat_Mahmood @arsched
@faizanlakhani Apology without establishing facts 🙂 @DrAwab @Shafqat_Mahmood @arsched
SAKROO YOU! @DrAwab @javeedNusrat
@DrAwab ne SAKROO ker dia @javeedNusrat ki allegation ko 🙁
@Sanaa_Amir he iz too drunk and emotional to say anything
I gave away my TV almost three years ago because i could not tolerate the crap, so i have not watched the show. my question is why is nusrat javaid using bolta pakistan to clear his name. name it bolta nusrat then, not bolta pakistan.
@DrAwab Who was responsible for the fake list??any conclusion??
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab off course PTI
@Shahidmasooddr who is responsible for #NusratJaved's Filth sir? @DrAwab
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab Is bechay ray Peechay Par Gaye hain !!! Journo's Sahab's Jan diyo
@Shahidmasooddr Sir in my investigation the existence of the list goes as far back as 12th June – please read http://t.co/rdWQA5aO
@DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr Without reading anything,gut feeling and intuition tells me that Mr. Javed Nusrat is the Veena Malick of journalism.
@mohsinhijazee : That's why most sought after?:-) @drawab @shahidmasooddr
@DrAwab Marvi Surmid was mourning yesterday that you Blocked her but still read her tweets 🙂
@rehmananwer lol her tweets are public as are mine we can read them despite block – but I just cant stomach her relentless abuse 😉
@DrAwab let me interject. if u are signed in via twitter, u can't read someone's TL if u have blocked him/her unless u sign out.
@DrAwab I know she is unbearable 🙂 but you must have left an unforgettable impact on her thoughts 🙂
@DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr Good job Dr Awab sahib/
@DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr Shahid Masood is a GOLD DIGGER in the media. He is one man in media without any journalism degree faking as anchor
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab whoever it was!! Abuse and name-calling openly is extremely childish and irresposible behaviour #ShutUpNusratJaved
@5hobi @Shahidmasooddr it was not @DrAwab but that Ugly Gutter man Nusrat called us dog #ShutUpNusratJaved
@imranwaseem @Shahidmasooddr #ShutUpNusratJaved @DrAwab was just tagged in the tweet. I know him 🙂
@Shahidmasooddr here's @DrAwab reply http://t.co/058IajIJ
@Shahidmasooddr if you want to avoid details read the update at the bottom of the post
@DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr .awab ur father belong to zardari and mother blong to MQM. Shame on ur father ik
@DrAwab Thanks. Please keep me posted as I am taking this to SC inquiry formed on media. Best Regards
@Shahidmasooddr @drawab yep dr sb must do it 🙂
@Shahidmasooddr you have my full and total cooperation in regards to any SC inquiry about the Baharia list / thank you
@DrAwab Why Javed Nusrat is not blaming it on ProPakistani and why on someone from PTI?
@DrAwab Thx a lot.
really, r u @Shahidmasooddr gonna be taking details to SC ?? @drawab
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab Why are Media hawks and others quite on Nusrat Javed's outrageous vituperation on air and on internet?
@mohsinhijazee Nusrat Sahib, have completely lost it. He abused Javed Hashmi and Imran Khan's sisters on facebook page @drawab
@rangbaaz_ Really?? Screnshots? @drawab
@MohsinHijazee @drawab he will not get publicity man and pti is his favourite topic.
@Shahidmasooddr @drawab not as important though but can u ask @UmarCheema1 y he is so favorable for pmln? http://t.co/sHV4LksS
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab if nusrat javeed is journalist then i m sick of these journalists and this badmash journalism profession.
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab Dr Shahid why u r showing courtesy to Dr awab who is cheater and spread fake list
@PTI_tsunami In respect of an old man. Jinnah "Respect peoplefor their wisdomnot age" @shahidmasooddr @drawab http://t.co/cGdM2owl
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab Dr. Shahid Masood, you are a so-called anchor and analyst.. Just go back to your clinic where you came from..!!
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab There should be a strong campaign against those who left their profession and became so-called anchors and analysts
@mohsinhijazee Sir, I will share the Screnshots when I am home. can't access facebook at work
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab that's good, thanks.
@Shahidmasooddr sir dr sb. Janne dayeen aab. Yahan loog light naa hunee pee maar rahee hain. Aap loog aik aur khani khool rahee hain (1/3)
@Shahidmasooddr aab 6 mahanee light aur actual issues pee baat nahin huu ge…aap loog aab "medal of clarity" leena chahatay hain (1/3)
@Shahidmasooddr juu saaf nahin ha dafa karen usse…media pressure see loogoon kee zilaat khattam karayeen…tamgha miil jayee gaa aap kuu..
@Shahidmasooddr Sir khuda kee liye apne position kuu loogoon kee liye usee kareen…aur mubashaar see tuu aap sarra din romance kartee thee
@Shahidmasooddr subha pehlaa hello unn kuu hee hutaa thaa…aap waisay tu bohot resourceful hain…lakin yeh patta nahin challa?
@Shahidmasooddr sb check this as well http://t.co/0I0NVZ1m
@DrAwab
@Shahidmasooddr @drawab sirs,
might be an ignorant question-so I apologise in advance but y direct 2 SC? Our our normal courts THAT corrupt?
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab
@shahidmasooddr NS/SS pher trap main agaiy L/S k mamlay main apko boots ki awaz arahi kia???
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab Shahid sb .r u realy dont know who ws?? if u see anything fake or abusive… utomatically the copy right goes to PTI
@shahidmasooddr @drawab sir if v surely call it a fake list then y r v aftr tht list just 4get it.its creating misconceptions abt lot ov ppl
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab alledgely jurno ikhtelaf wala..lol..but i think u cnt find the real starter of that
@Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab
DR SHIAHID MASOOD
with no respect you are no different-You are the first one who betrayed people
@junaidalamgir @Shahidmasooddr @DrAwab
-I am sorry for you that you were loved so much by this stupid nation BUT you didnt deserve that.
@Shahidmasooddr chorren list kuu..aap agar saaf hain tu tension naa layeen…Loogoon kee maslee solve karayeen…bijli, khana, roozi
@Shahidmasooddr aap yeh samjhayeen kee AZ chahata haa kee aap loog kisse aur cheez kee peechayee laag jayeen…wohi huu raha haa
@Shahidmasooddr please have a look at the last update on the blog – the list was shared in Punjab assembly b4 11th June http://t.co/rdWQA5aO
@DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr is it proved that list was fake as many of them a part of it
U shouldnt have shared this list at all @drawab @shahidmasooddr
@DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr So it was not act than who exactly was trying entrap you ?
@Farhan_Imaan @drawab @shahidmasooddr by the way, I never believed on that fake list.
@AyeshaDurrani2 @drawab @shahidmasooddr Than question comes in my mind who would do that and let Awab Alvi being accused for it? entrapment
@Farhan_Imaan entrap ? Not sure, but it was Nusrat Javed an Anti PTI comedian blamed @DrAwab to malign PTI @shahidmasooddr
@imranwaseem @DrAwab @shahidmasooddr had conversation with him, actually PTI guys are not respecting seniors and dealing wisely, they should
@DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr NJ sb ows u an apology for Bashing u and PTI on national tv. Unresponsible journlism.
@DrAwab awab bhai on 12th on twitter some1 tweeted that this list he got from puunjab asembly or sm1 distributed there..
@aasimnaveed Must ack you for providing the all important hint that an Etribune Journalist tweeted that the list was dist in Punjab Assembly
@DrAwab sorry dint get u bhai..
@aasimnaveed read entire trail of the Baharia Docs leading up to it being distributed in Punjab Assmebly http://t.co/Ci607iNE on 11th Jun
@DrAwab so u saying thanx to me? Bcz some spell mistake i dint get exactly…
I seriously thought Nusrat Javed was an idiot to be taking twitter/Fb so seriously. I mean had Zardari done the same, he wouldve had 10-20 heart attacks by now.
And not to mention, I am equally surprised now that the social media team is taking NJ seriously as well.
NJ has managed to engage us which is stupid on our part. PTI is not anti-Nusrat movement. Khan's agenda back in 96 wasnt to tarnish NJ's holy image.
If NJ likes to believe so, he should be allowed to do so. Clarifications come from the guilty.
I may not be able to count exactly right but im dead sure about the gazillion times NJ has leveled stupid allegations against Khan. How many times has he come out to give clarifications?
@DrAwab Chorein Dr.Saab uss aadmi ko kya kehna jo hosh mein hi naa rehta ho… pehley uss TUNN Insaan se kahein hosh mein aaye phir bat kare
@DrAwab Good work!!
@DrAwab Inna lilla wa inna illahe rajeoun. #FauziaWahab R.I.P #PPP
@DrAwab Gud work,still b it @kursed or whoever Y only u & others #PTI supporters RTed,2ndly PKpolitics & siyasat I doubt u r nt linked wd em
@tatom2k It was shared by PMLn Facebook pages as well and random ppl shared too it just went viral coz of video leak @DrAwab @kursed
@DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr by the way PK politics is run by PMLN
@XIApk r u sure coz? coz I am quite sure it and siyasat r ran by #PTI @DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr
@tatom2k Siasat is not run by PTI its random ppl yeh admin have soft spot for PTI its very old forum @DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr
@tatom2k But PKpolitics is by PMLN u can check the news there. Haroon Rashid even said Ahsan Iqbal involved in it @DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr
@XIApk n e way whatever is case so it is #PMLN and #PTI joint action, either u say soft corner or whatever @DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr
@XIApk it ws @DrAwab blog, and these 2 who also shared Salman Taseer's things on net so i dont see n e difference @Shahidmasooddr
@tatom2k U know PMLN was also not a big fan of Taseer. by the way forums r open for any 1 to post. @DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr
@XIApk Thts Y I m saying tht in this & prior case of ST both #PTI & #PMLN,well I knw tht dey dnt accept unanimously @DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr
@tatom2k Not planned as I said thing goes viral on social media @DrAwab @Shahidmasooddr
@DrAwab Why @mushtaqminhas is claiming that you uploaded this fake document? What proof he has and why don't you sue him? @shahidmasooddr
@DrAwab You should ask @Shahidmasooddr who this media guy was… #MediaGate https://t.co/ZOIn4tVP
@DrAwab You should ask @Shahidmasooddr who this media guy was, who created & 1st published that list… #MediaGate https://t.co/ZOIn4tVP
@DrAwab Sharing wrong list having allegations with out any prove, is itself showing the irresponsibility and immaturity of you and the #PTI
@asimkazmy @javeednusrat it's fake document, A millions of twitter and Facebook user shared it in few mins. it's nothing to do With pti.
@DrAwab u really need to control some of your online members-im ashamed at some of the crap coming from their end esp on FW's untimely death
checkout the letter head design? the logo is offcentred, the header looks fishy too. whether or not the list of anchors accused correct or not the letterhead looks totally fake! grow up ppl!
@Rai_Azlan @DrAwab wesite is offline….!!!
@Fakhar_Ul_Islam @DrAwab working fine at my end
@Fakhar_Ul_Islam @Rai_Azlan @DrAwab its up
@Rai_Azlan @DrAwab nope not here… 🙁
@DrAwab BRILLIANT Doc !! Superb.. NOW throw it on their face. and for God sake sue them
@DrAwab tell this to @javeednusrat who has nothing better to do other than finding new blames on PTI
@DrAwab
Good job mate, who cares what these SOLD OUT journalists especially that Nusrat "Mujra" Javed. They talk bull $hit day & night
@DrAwab #twittergate Simple and quick please if u can solve the twist for us: 1) Is that list real, and 2) who shared it and how it ends?
@mushtaqminhas Dono Laggar baggar sirf TV per time zaya kernay atay hain. Apna aur qaum ka. @mrcruizy
@XIApk I heard that Dr.Shahid going to court i suggest @DrAwab to present all releveant data there to #ShutupNusratJaved ,its very important
@imranwaseem – im ready to share all info with @ShahidMasoodDr infact that is the reason why i made this public – PEOPLE should know
@DrAwab @imranwaseem @ShahidMasoodDr should know what ?
@mrcruizy acha later
@DrAwab Would be interesting to find out who distributed this in Punjab Assembly? @javeednusrat sb I hope wl reveal it in his program
Nicely Done!! "@XIApk @DrAwab Nailed it http://t.co/c9pzFf8H Nusrat Javed Pawned"