In the past few weeks there has been a buzz spreading around Pakistan’s digital world talking about the recent fame surrounding the TV show personality Zaid Hamid who conducts a show on TV One called Brasstacks. It should be mentioned that brasstacks is reportedly a paid-for show which has started airing barely a few months back and has developed a very strong following amongst the masses. Admittedly Zaid Hamid is quite eloquent in his show and is well versed in his explaining his innumerable concepts of ranging from economic terrorism by the Zionists to other such issues which are poised at him even Islamic issues
I too have been guilty of occasionally catching a glimpse of his show and did even carry his five part series on Economic Terrorism. All seemed well until a close associate contacted me via facebook sharing his concerns about Zaid Zaman Hamid and revealed his suspicious association with Yousuf Ali, a self proclaimed prophet from Lahore in the 1990’s. Zaid Zaman was purportedly the right hand man of Yousuf Ali and was fondly referred to as his Hazrat Ali. Zaid Zaman was instrumental in spreading the message of prophecy far across Pakistan, to develop a large cult like following in Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad mostly due to Zaid Zaman’s excellent communication skills.
Yousuf Ali had been preaching his divine revelation to his followers for quite many years when finally a handful defected and braved to testify against him in the Lahore High Court which ultimately gave Yousuf Ali, a death sentence on charges of Blasphemy. Yousuf Ali was then confined to Kot Lakhpath jail and in 2001 was shot dead by a fellow prisoner. Throughout the legal proceedings one witness after another testified to the fact that Zaid Zaman was a key figure in the promotion of Yousuf Ali’s Kazzab movement. I have been told that there even does exists an analog video of Zaid Zaman standing beside Yousuf Ali while he addressed his followers in Lahore. Somehow the fact that Zaid Zaman was a key figure in this movement is generally a foregone conclusion, as there are one too many eye witnesses and more importantly numerous had testified the fact which may even be present in the records of Lahore High Court, including Zaid Zaman’s testimony to the honorable judge, all records are securely preserved in the archives of Tahaffuz-e-Khatm-e-Nabuwwat in Karachi.
The Zaid Zaman Hamid storm actually started with the email from Naufil Shahrukh, a close friend whom I have known since 1990, the email at first in the form of a private message on Facebook but soon propagated online and published on Dictatorship Watch, verbatim
If you guys remember the Pakistan false prophet, Yousuf Ali, who was arrested and sentenced to death by the Lahore High Court and then murdered in Kot Lakhpat jail by a fellow prisoner – this guy Zaid Hamid was known as Zaid Zaman at that time and was the Khalifah of that Kazzab. Zaid is still leading that cult which belongs to the Firqah Batinyah of Sufism and they have a different aqeedah altogether which they only profess within their inner core. Many of my personal friends fell prey to his charisma in the 1990s, some of them reverted back to Hidayah and were instrumental in filing a case against Yusuf Ali which ultimately lead to his death sentence and the cult members dispersed for a few years.
The time line of events that he narrates in his letter are erringly accurate and when Naufil mentioned to me later pointing out the common friends who fell prey to this cult one does weigh in a sigh of relief to have been spared of the poison. The most logical reason as to why our neighborhood was penetrated to such an extent can be attributed to the fact that Zaid Hamid hailed from our locality. Off the friends who willingly embraced Yousuf Ali’s prophecy was Ryzwan Tayyab who very soon featured himself as a militant leader of the movement and after the collapse of this movement has retreated into a cocoon of severe depression irreparably damaging his family around him. Ryzwan was also involved in actually issuing death threats to the few journalists who were critically investigating Yousuf Ali back in those days.
The resurfacing of Zaid Hamid after 15 years of hibernation is interesting, he catapults himself in 2006 as a security threat analyst frequently publishing PDF based Pakistan threat reports for a subscription fee of Rs. 25,000 but within a span of a two years mustered up enough finances to launch a self sponsored TV show which started transmission in the early months of 2008, suspiciously timed around the fall of the Pervaiz Musharraf’s regime. The sudden shot to fame on TV is being compared to the launch of Dr. Shahid Masood’s End of Time series, which too was based on an eloquent anchor with one too many theories to present.
Off the numerous people stepping forth to expose Zaid Hamid the must read narration is of a two year email correspondence between Zaid Hamid and Abidullah Jan. It gives an insight onto Zaid Zaman when he first started sharing his BrassTacks Security reports, slowly moving into becoming a much sought after personality. What was interesting to read was when in the early months of 2007 Zaid Zaman approached Abidullah Jan struggling to stay afloat and requested Abid to help promote his security reports to a wider audience “I am in need of some clients to stay afloat as I am being squeezed by the government’s men for being too open and ruthless”. Zaid Hamid a few months later, after the 3rd Nov Martial Law appeared on a couple of pro-Musharraf TV shows on PTV with Ahmed Qureshi. Then suddenly out of the blue he is able to muster up enough finances to launch a self sponsored show on TV One. Watching a person flutter from being financially strapped and haunted by ‘government’s men’ to appearing on a pro-Musharraf show, then having catapulting into his own show seems all too suspiciously the work of some ‘hidden hands‘
If coincidence was anything to go by, I also noted that around this time emerged Zaid Hamid’s articles on a very staunch pro-Musharraf proponent Ahmed Quraishi who continues to wage an online battle with the Anti-Musharraf sect. When today I inquisitively launched a witch hunt for Zaid Hamid on the website I was surprised to see that quite a few of Zaid Hamid’s editorials were missing for example the January 29th article which should have led to the page has been removed from the website sometime after September 5th 2008 [as indicated by the Google Cache] and this is not the only article missing of the series, I wonder why the sudden cover up after September 5th by Ahmed Quraishi.
The only acknowledgment of any link with Yousuf Ali came from an email shared with me privately where Zaid Hamid Alhamdolillah, i have nothing to do with Yousuf or his beliefs or any other people like him.
Lest I be charged of taking this message out of context I share with you the entire section of the email so people may understand his response fully
In the last 30 years of my life, In search of truth and to study this world and its ideologies, Allah took me to many places and I met many people. I have traveled with Iranian revolution, have faught in Afghan Jihad, have gone out with Tablighi Jmaat, spent time with Jamaat Islami, have met hundreds of people including Dr. Israr, Ahmad deedat, Yusuf Islam, Anne Marrie schimmel and so on and so forth. Have also been with sufi groups in Pakistan, Turkey, Madina and Cyprus. I have also seen the western society, its civilization from a close range. Whatever I speak and do today, is the result of these experiences in life but with the mercy of Allah, He protected his humble slaves and keeps them in His infinite mercy and guidance. He showed me the world and people, but kept me away from their harm and made me benefit from any khair they had.
I also met and studied many objectionable people who were controversial but in the end Allah kept me away from them. It was all learning experiences. Alhamdolillah, i have nothing to do with Yusuf or his beliefs or any other people like him
Though he puts forth a convincing argument but it seems yet again that he refuses to acknowledge his association with Yousuf Ali to categorically say that he has “nothing to do with Yousuf or his beliefs” is this admittance of his association or denial of the fact?
Proponents of Zaid Hamid continue to plead his innocence even today as Pakistan First blog, which has been previously labeled to have a strong pro-Musharraf tilt, shared an article by Asif Shiraz who writes Zaid Hamid: As I knew him
I first met Zaid hamid at the youthful age of 17, when the emotions were high, and the search for truth pristine and innocent. A friend had told me about Zaid Hamid, and I was anxious to meet him: I was not disappointed. Our first meeting was a blast. I enjoyed Zaid sahib’s charismatic talk on many different issues, especially his passion about Islam and his knowledge on a diverse set of subjects. Although it’s been many years now, I still remember highlights of that conversation: Quotations from Iqbal, recollection of glorious events from the lives of the Sahaba, and discussion of the relevance of having truth faith “Yaqin”. Not once on that day, nor ever afterwards in these fifteen years, have I ever heard anything from Zaid Hamid which is incongruent to ideas present in mainstream religious teachings of Ahl-e-Sunnah wal-jamaat. No mention of any “cult ideology”, and no reference to anyone claiming “prophethood” whatsoever. He is a firm believer in Khatme-e-Nabuwat and the finality of Prophet Muhammad(sm). In fact, Zaid Hamid is the only person whom I have met, who lives in a rented home, but still spends a handsome chunk of his earnings every year to pay a visit to the blessed cities of Hijaz-e-Muqaddas. It is nothing other than Zaid Hamid’s love and devotion to the Prophet(sm) that he has visited Masjid-e-Nabwi more than 10 times. After the first initial meeting, I have been in touch with Zaid Hamid off and on for many years, until I moved to Chaklala Scheme III becoming his neighbor and an even closer friend.
Asif Shiraz does admit in his article that he is now a neighbor of Zaid Hamid but surprisingly fails to disclose that he is an employee of BrassTacks as proclaimed by him in this Facebook message (Screen capture) whilst a little investigation also sheds some light that Mr. Asif Shiraz incidentally happens to be the Administrative domain contact for Zaid Hamid’s website Brasstacks.biz (screen capture)
It is sadly Asif Shiraz’s attempt to stand up for his boss only goes to discredit Zaid Zaman. To analyze Zaid Hamid’s Brasstacks TV show one should read the two articles published in The News by Fasi Zaka September 18th The Pakistan Report and on 25th September published a follow up titled Hate Speech – II
My concern here remains is that Zaid Zaman is appearing on public TV and continues to eloquently preach his philosophy to the public at large, had if this individual remained as private entity, then we would have had no right to question his beliefs, but once he dons the public forum, then I feel it is the right of the people to know the facts. Generally as a free society we cannot stop him from sharing his opinion with the public at large but it is our right to question his logic and any underlying issues that may tarnish his analysis as he chooses to present to the public, and in the same pretext its important to then question his association with the self proclaimed prophet a notion strictly prohibited in the religion of Islam.
The mystery surrounding this controversy seemingly gets worse with every passing day, could it be a mere propaganda, could it be his attempt to cover up his past, or does he simply choose ignore and hopefully forget, but more importantly does he still believe in the prophecy, so many questions, all shall remain a mystery until he alone chooses to address the propaganda and clarify his position once in for all
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Regarding this in my earlier comment:
*Quran’s own words: Allah said, “We put some of our noor in Adam/ bashar.”
This is the English translation of what Maulana Maudidi has interpreted in his Urdu Tarjuman-ul-Quran. I accidentally found the two passages, and insha’Allah when I have time, I shall refer to the page numbers and edition (will have to find the passages again). Otherwise, any person here is invited to investigate Maulana Maududi’s Tarjuman-ul-Quran.
While the individuals labeled as guilty in this blog may or may not be so – (and I cannot single-handedly declare anyone innocent, for this too is a form of judgment – and I have no direct knowledge of ZZH or his program – I’ve finally checked it out though) – what is scary is a generic condemning of… well it’s hard to make head or tail of how many things or people are condemned in this complicated tale.
The concepts of faith which are dragged in, though, and the aspects of the Yousuf Ali story for which he is condemned here and more widely are – though – often part of POPULAR Muslim faith. This issue is badly mixed up. Finally, Sufi speak is not digestible by everyone, which is true. And not everyone who calls them Sufi is one, or is as knowledgeable as the other Sufi. To call sufis by the title of “firqah e batinyah” is a gross generalization.
If a person is misguided, they can come from any race or clan. And if a person is rightly guided, they can be from any race or clan. Question the person, not the whole group.
Iqbal’s poetry is full of the dangers of mullah’ism (NOT ulema, but mullahs – who require no minimal knowledge and are often self-declared clerics), he is on record having said, “Deen e Mullah fi’sabeel Illah fasaad!”
…. And that’s all I will say. Indeed there are too many vague aspects to address here. All in all, a very dangerous subject to bring up which has inadvertently helped expose an issue we need to expose: Pakistani Muslims’ poor grip on both Shariah and the inner meaning of Islam. May we be rightly guided hence.
P.S. Just to share one thing I learned about my research on Tasawwuf: there are two types: one is HORIZONTAL (exploring all sorts of spiritual experiences – wandering in a spiritual Disneyland so to speak) and the other is VERTICAL (cleansing after cleansing after cleansing of self and INTENT/ “niyyat”). The first type is prevalent in Indo-Pak and has a great inclination towards crazy. Those learners who come into contact with this have a likelihood of going crazy themselves.
The second type is straightforward: cleanse yourself. And for this, you must know yourself. Hazrat Ali said, “The one who knew himself, knew his Lord!” Which is another statement liable to misinterpretation. What is means is this – to give an example – once you know a Ferrari, you know how fine its designer must be! I.e. the WAY to know Allah is to know your own design. (Because you can’t know more.)
That’s all. I had wished since day 1 of this blog to share the other side of the reality – but I am feeling I cannot even begin to do justice to the subject – hopefully I will disturb minds enough so that even if to refute, people will investigate the truth of everything on their own.
AND THAT WILL BE THE BEST OUTCOME, FOR WE SHOULD NEVER LEND OUR MINDS TO ANYONE! If that were the case, no Sahabi would have ever given counsel to the Prophet peace be upon him.
There are no holy – or unholy cows. Dear Pakistani people: LIBERATE YOUR MINDS and hearts! Reflect upon your own design and consider why Allah gave you a brain and a complete body on your own. Why didn’t Allah take a wire out of our head and plug that into someone else’s brain?
The worst dictator is a sleeping mind that is controlling a person. WAKE UP!
And Allah knows best!
@ABDULLAH
“Thank you ALLAH for giving us a Noor (The light) and hope, in the complete darkness, in the form of Mr. Zaid Hamid (Sher-e-Khuda)”
And I thought Allah had given us Noor (The light) and hope, in the complete darkness, in the form of Hazrat Muhammed (PBUH). He might not be enough for you but he certainly is enough for ME!!!
(I feel queasy reading such a statement coming from someone named “Abdullah”. Isn’t it almost blasphemous? )
@know
I don’t know of a single sufi who supports murder, kidnapping, abuse of innocents like ZZH does with his suport for Mush/ISI policies…I don’t know of a sufi who conducts a TV show and that too on terrorism, etc., and that too using a bimbo as a showpiece 🙂
@ Zaid Hamid
salam brothers and sisters
i am zaid hamid from Brasstacks.
i have decided to answer all your questions in one go.
i belive that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the LAST MESSENGER,PROPHET,(NABI,RASOOL) OF ALLAH.
i don’t follow Yousuf Ali Kazzab.
thanks i think thats enoughto explain.
Zaid Hamid
IANZHYI”
i don’t think this zaid hamid. IF he is zaid hamid post the same text on brasstacks official website.
aur billi thailay se bahar agayee…
the above posts by the followers of Yusuf Kazzab who are now being led by Zaid Zaman Hamid are self-explanatory of their perverted beliefs. What do they say about the article published in Jasarat last week? I am sure Zaid Zaman knows both the guys personally who testified against the financial and moral corruption of Yusuf Kazzab and Zaid Zaman in the name of Jihad, Khilafat and Sufism.
if zaid hamid doesnt admit this facts ( stilll not confirmed) so he should come on his program and say that i curse on yousuf kazzab and yousuf kazzzab is a jahannumi because of his this cursing deeds.
anyway zaid hamid is suspicious now…
These liars even lie about Quran for their vested interests. There is no ayah whatsoever in the Quran saying that “We put some of our noor in Adam/ bashar.” Nauzubillah. This is a blatant lie…
“Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: I am about to create man from clay. When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.” (38:71-72)
For clarification read this:
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1212925246967
For God sakes if you refer to and Aya from Quran or Hadith. Give reference in the first place.
gentleman
i read the arguments specially @Know’s argument.
the style and patteren is the same like qadiyanis.
batanis and qadiyanis have one thing common”IMPOSTERS”
qadiyanis are notorious for lies, deceptions and forgery
i can see the same when @know say’s:
*Quran’s own words: Allah said, “We put some of our
noor in Adam/ bashar.”
@Know can you give us the refrence?
also cursing the opponents.
fight with opponents insted of arguments(i never read a single incidence in the history of TAREEQAT that disiples made such a fuss when some one opposed thier school of thoughts.
qadiyanis and batanis look like same.
is it coincidence or some conspiracy?
http://archive.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6454&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
May Allah Protect all Muslims from the fitna of Yousaf Kazzab (the false prophet) and his successor(right Hand Man) Zaid Zaman Hamid
http://www.jasarat.com/2008/10/24/columns/details/06.gif
Following is an article in Urdu from Daily Jassarat, October 24, 2008 which mentions all the related facts about Musharraf’s massacre int he heart of Islamabad and dispells the myths crafted by ISI and its mouth piece, Zaid Zaman Hamid.
http://www.jasarat.com/2008/10/24/columns/details/02.gif
Are you guyz here scared of the Unknown. Listen to Zaid Hamids messages not what people think he is he has alot of good things to say so listen and live and let live. And as muslim I don’t think we should be cursing anyone though I am not that knowlegable in Islam. One who says kalma shahadat shouldn’t be questioned any further for his beliefs. I mean any human being shouldn’t be questioned for their beliefs anyway. Only Allah is the jugde and we all surely be judged sooner or later and we should worry about our own judgements at the day of judgment. Not even ones who talks about having noor in them because they say kalma shahadat.
Kalama shahadat is:
“Ashaduanlailaha illAllahu wa ashaduanna mohammadan abdahu wa rasuluhu”
I mean any human being. REMEMBER WE WILL ALL RETURN AND BE JUDGED.
Zaid Hamid is not backing anyone not ISI nor Army. Even if he is who is gonna fight for the country of pakistan when an enemy comes???????
By the way should we be active against fitna of our leaders in pakistan????? I guess not we should go after somebody who might be telling us some truth and who is weak without billions in his pockets.
The Prophet Muhammed Peace be upon him:
The time of the Dajjal will be years of confusion. People will believe a liar, and disbelieve one who tells the truth. People will distrust one who is trustworthy, and trust one who is treacherous; and the ruwaybidha will have a say.” Someone asked: “Who are they?” He said: “Those who rebel against Allah and will have a say in general affairs.”
We may be at this time. But Allah knows best.
@The Lone Ranger
I am not good in English or Urdu. Also I am not knowlegable in Quran and may Allah forgive me if I am wrong. But
“our noor” sound very similar to “of my spirit”
I am only referring to this part because I think thats what you were trying to clarify above that Allah never says he has put some of his noor in Adam. So please just don’t start accusing people of lies.
As muslim we need to be tolerant not dictators.
@Arshad
Please fear God in the matters of Quran and hadith. It does not at all sound similar! And even the spirit (ar-ruh) as mentioned in the ayah needed some clarifcation for common people that is why I had pasted that link above with it.
AND STOP ACTING AS A PIMP FOR ZAID HAMID! We all know that you are one of that kazzab’s followers.
@arshad khan!
one should not question the intentions and belief of other muslim, but zaid zaman hamid is a different story.
His past will haunt him forever.his association with yousuf kazzab is not something which can be easily forgotten,specially in new scenario where he is in desperate plight to be a leader of this nation.
the suspicions grew more when some intelligent guys posted some basic question regarding his past and present.
also one should remember the fact that he never condemn the yousuf kazzab.
dear arshad khan! please read the articles of daily jasarat dated october 24/2008
http://jasarat.com/2008/10/24/columns/details/02.gif
posted by @arif and other peoples
may ALMIGHTY ALLAH save us from fitanas of our age.
best regards
I would like to share Altaf Hussain Hali’s poetry as an answer to this.
Agar 1 jawanmard hamdrd insan
karay qom per dil se jan apni qurban
to khud qom is per lagae ye bohtan
k hai iski koi garz is mai panhan
wagarna pari kia kisi ko kisi ki
ye chalain sarasar hain khud matlabi ki.
@The Lone Ranger
So you know exactly "spirit" means in Quran I guess. I am not gonna argue because I haven't done any research on this matter. You telling me to fear Allah even though my comment states thatI may be wrong. And you know exactly that Khazzab is for sure condemned to hell because of our perfect judicial system and press existing in pakistan. We must ask people to prove there innocence. We must listen to second or third or other sources to get to know a person. I guess I am wrong. You must know alot about pimping too.
@ Sop much of Bakwas said against Zaid Hamid that
the blog is inundated with falsifications and fake
documents, fabricated rumours, and a whole bunch of
Qadiani impostors have made a yalgar,
to recognize a Qadiani ask him the following
do you blieve and apply Nazaria-e-Pakistan and
do you adhere to Pak constitution of 1973.
the masks will fall down one by one !
some people have opted to talk without knowledge which is dangerous.
this is not a common matter and jst saying a sentence here and sentence in a uturn fashion is not enough.
record says that zaid zaman was closely affiliated with a distorted sufi yousuf ali who announced him as his “sahabi”.this yousuf ali was sentenced to death on 5th aug 2000. zaid zaman hamid struggled hard to preach the ideas of yousuf ali in karachi and he defended him in newspapers and tried to save him.Yousuf Ali was killed in the jail. yousuf ali had a very irrational and controversial views.Apart from sesion judge he was also scrutinized by a muslim council comprising of all sects of muslim scholars.though zaid hamid’s team now a days denies any relation with yousuf kazzab, but record proofs and the people who suffered due to this cult are many. zaid is said to be sponsored by pakistani powerfull institutions but their is no obvious proof and some says that this is just to defame pakistani institutions to link these institutions with yousuf ali type of people.
Despite his repeated negations, court order abouit yousuf ali contains the statments mentioning clearly the name of zaid zaman as the announced “sahabi” of yousuf kazzab.The court order was published by al maarif ,ganj bukhsh road lahore in 2000, and its foreward writted by renouned lawyer Mr Ismail Qurashi A dvocate writes that mr Zaid Zaman Hamid wrote a letter in daily Dawn of 13th august 2000 against the court order and labelled the order as murder of the justice.just denial of the fact is not the solution of this controversy and court order published in 0ct 2000 contains zaid hamid;s name on pages 89, 202 and 248 among the statements by the wittnesses.even people who attended the gatherings in which zaid was announced as “sahabi” of yousuf kazzab are available and court order is the proof of that.mer zaid zaman after this award delievered a speach also to prais yousuf ali. zaid zaman was the main propagator in karachi for yousuf ali, whom he denies but news papers and court order cant be denied which is a part of history and official record of the “judgment of the yousuf ali blasphemy case” in the court of mian mohammad jahangir,session judge lahore,sessions case no.60 of 1998 sessions trial no.3 of 2000 in re : the state vsmohammad yousuf ali.this was an historical judgement in the history of pakistan and zaid zaman was one of the people who defended yousuf kazzab.now he when caught in a situation simply denies in a joking fashion. this whole story of lies and deception is now exposed and “jhootay ko ghar tak pahunchana zaroori hay” now the proofs from court order will be available to those who have eyes ,brain ,any sense. those who are misbehaving and cant controll their language and want to enjoy the swimming in the pool of ignorance are free to do so but….remember the yousu kazzab and his followers.the sincere people when lost a lot of time money and eeman were very embarrased. only Allah saved some. some are still giving wrong statements and are hiding the truth.
peopl stop fighting and critisizing each other. So far zaid hamid haven’t said anything that goes against the teachings of Islam. I don’t care about his past and don’t give a dam about it. ALL I CARE IS WHAT IS HE SAYING DOES THAT MAKE YES IT DOES, THEN PLZ STOP THIS NONSENSE AND THINK ABOUT PAKISTAN.
zaid is critical of the present government of Pakistan(me too!), declaring it as the ‘CIA-sponsored democracy.’Zaid critisize the government formed after a deal between army chief kiani, musharraf and benazir in dubai(the famous dubai deal)but he defends all the moves taken by army like killings in lal mosque, killings in Fata nwfp by pak army. he says that Prohet (saw) has said about the happening of “ghazwa e hind” which will be faught by pak army ,so every step is defended in islamic perspective. here is the final conclusion of zaid,s thought that any step by pak army will be right path an the path adopted by pak army is the “true” path.most of his conclusions are ended up in defending pakistan army while most of the islamists and pakistani common man have bitter experiece with paksitan army. He considers the army and pakistan same so any critic regarding in zaid’s opinion is anti pakistan. he considers anti dictator thoughts promoted by pro independence writers as the agents of Raw Mossad and CIA. Zaid very simply considers all those who oppose dictatorship as the enemies of pakistan(while most of the pakistanis are now anti dictatorship and anti army rule).
i think zaid is seriously damaging the image of pakistan and army by advocating in achildish way .Are’nt there any sensible people in these institutions who controll the language of the advocate.”nadaan doost” ko lagaam do bhai warna bacha bacha thoo thoo karay ga.
mr shahid sahib says”peopl stop fighting and critisizing each other. So far zaid hamid haven’t said anything that goes against the teachings of Islam. I don’t care about his past and don’t give a dam about it. ALL I CARE IS WHAT IS HE SAYING DOES THAT MAKE YES IT DOES, THEN PLZ STOP THIS NONSENSE AND THINK ABOUT PAKISTAN”
i think it is important that the leader of the opinion should be of sensible past and is the past is tortuous and surpentine ,it may lead to a dead hole… if you think that after promoting a false prophet one is elligible to lead the nation intellectually then this is your “precious’ opinion. keep this asset in your almira. let people know the fact. it is important to know the past of such people.
even we cant afford tp marry a man of dubious past, how can we surrender our brains to such a man who was followers of a jahil kazzab and now clearly denies any association. it is clear “jhoot”. we know the story while you dont want to know. we have taken pain to confirm to the bottom. if you have your principles of life about following in such a way then it is dangerous. Pakistan cant afford such intellectuals and time wasters.
@Dr. Jawad Khan
Sir,
I read some of the article the. It seems to have been written like a fiction story. This writer is referring to two brothers “Rizwan Tayyab and Mansoor Tayyab” who tell the history of a guy named Yousuf Kazzab. There is some association of Yousuf Kazzab with Zaid Hamid. The writer shows his own and “Rizwan Tayyab and Mansoor Tayyab” credibility by saying “I will introduce you to these two brothers who with the mercy of Allah were rightly guided by Allah after years of working with the group of Yousuf Kazzab” Mansoor Tayyab is the one who seems to be telling this story. All that said. Are we supposed to believe what these people are saying in a newspaper or we should believe the words that we have heard from Mr. Zaid Hamid’s mouth on his shows. All what is said is allegations by third parties who whe don’t have a clue about.
This writer is so shameless I am so sad to say. He mentions that most of the people supporting Zaid Hamid are women. What his statement is meant for only Allah Knows. Where does he get his data from?
Listen!
When you want to totally destroy somebody in Islamic societies so that they don’t gain support. All you have to do attack his religious beliefs especially if the person is religious or righteous.
When you want to totally destroy some body in the West so that they don’t gain support. All you have to do is attack them so that they are criminally charged that is if they speak agaist the status quo.
So try to understand that what is going on is people are just attacking him “Zaid Hamid” because he is a threat to “false hood” or “Batil” thus a direct threat to themselves or people they are associated with.
Lets say I am wrong so far.
Then what do we have to lose if we give Zaid Hamid a chance?
Are we Happy with Zardari?
Are we happy with Nawaz sharif?
We weren’t even strong enough to stop these crooks from getting elected a second time.
Are we happy with what Mussharaf did?
Do you or they themselves have any idea what “Fitna” they are creating by amassing wealth for themselves by taking it from poor who deserves it? This fitna is nothing compared to people arguing about small issues.
Are we happy with what Mussharaf did?
What about the people that were handed over so they could be locked up in cages in Guantanamo bay and else where? What about this poor lady named “Dr. Siddiqui”
May be when and if we get a leader in pakistan like Zaid Hamid we won’t have these things happening to innocent.
Why go to learn about him through second and third parties?
Have you heard Zaid hamid talk in Economic terrorism?
Have you heard from his own mouth Hindu zionism?
Are you only capable to believe what others are saying about him but not capable to understand that most of what he says is truth? Which we don’t get to hear very often in Media in general let alone Pakistani media.
Why don’t you recognize the “Fitna” that is caused by taking away from the poor?(This is what Zaid Hamid is taklking against) Is that not way more harmful to humanity then about minor issues in Islam. such as differences betweeen “noor” and “rooh”
I don’t know Zaid hamid personally all I have done is viewed some of his TV shows. And from what I heard I was able to see that this guy is sincere for All muslims and humanity.
I think that is enough.
InshAllah we will see in our life time truth prevailing.
Take care and May Allah guide us to the right path. Ameen.
mr zafar iqbal
my concern is not zaid hamid. My concern is my dear country
not a single person and so far i havent seen any problem with his patriotism and his love for islam and i am not asking you to surrender your precious brain but instead i want to use it to analyse what he is saying now and criticize that, not what he did 20 years ago atleast i am not concerned about it and open to learn something good from him or you cause i don’t know both of you and anything good coming from anywhere is alway welcome.
@ Arshad Khan
What Ever Mansoor Tayeb has said about “fitna Zaid Zaman Hamid” is 100% true, Because I know this man since 1989 , he used to live in Shabirrabad ‘A’ block then.
Now Its your decision to fell in trap of ISI agent Zaid Zaman” OR research your self for the truth and then yourself reject him
@ Arshad Khan
Dr. Afia Siddique was abducted from Karachi by ISI/Musharraf and then illegally handed over to USA.
Zaid Zaman Hamid supports and defend the same army, the same musharraf so indirectly zaid supported Dr. Afia Siddique abduction.
Now arshad don’t start this bull shit that zaid never supported ISI/ Army.
Please see his initial TV interviews on PTV
Please see his report on LAL MASJID / Jamia Hafsa
Where Zaid has openly defend Pak Army massacre in Lal Masjid
Please while please read this report which is opposite of zaid hamid report
ollowing is an article in Urdu from Daily Jassarat, October 24, 2008 which mentions all the related facts about Musharraf’s massacre in the heart of Islamabad and dispells the myths crafted by ISI and its mouth piece, Zaid Zaman Hamid.
http://www.jasarat.com/2008/10/24/columns/details/02.gif
@Arif
Let me first clarify first that I don’t intend to defend ISI or Musharraf.
Now comming to this Jassarat article… You people are mentioning this article like its a revelation from God. On one side every body is condeming media for airing Zaid’s programs and on the other hand you are forcing us to believe in the news of a newspaper about which not more than two pc of Pakistan population know.
Secondly it is portraying Mr.Qazi and is gang of fanatic retards a group of super heroes.
Where the hell was this man when those people in Lal Masjid were getting killed… no dharna .. no train march.. no million march .. no jalsa no jaloos.. man Mr.Qazi is an expert of all this and why didn’t he and his gang came out on streets in protest during the whole siege. And where was molana Diesel, attending APC in London… damn, that is off course more important.. What happend to Liaquat Baloch when he tried to enter and tried to win Lal Masjid’s ppl’s hearts.. jootay lagay thay usay…
and look at this report.. damn it ..
@ Ali
why don’t the gand (dirt) of Yousaf Kazzab answer the real question asked.
Question 1
I asked why did Zaid Zaman Hamid supported and defended army/Musharraf massacre on Lal Masjid ???
you answered where was qazi then ?? Did Qazi ever supported or Defended army Action on Lal Masjid.
Question 2
Many times the question was asked that was zaid hamid associated with the false prophet yousaf kazzab
you answered curse on every one who blames zaid zaman
Is Zaid Hamid a Prophet that he could not be questioned ??
Regarding Jasarat article which have narrated 100% true story of Mansoor Tayeb and I know mansoor for the past 19 years and I can give my words for his honesty and credibility. “Ab billi thelay say bahar agai” and Zaid Zaman is exposed so now you have started critisizing other leaders as it is said “Chor kee Dari may think”
Look at ISI agent zaid hamid report on Lal Masjid …damn it
@Mr Arif
Are you outa your mind … Are you wearing your spectacles or are you blind…
I would like to answer you second question first..
Did I say this
“you answered curse on every one who blames zaid zaman ”
I have four recommendations
1- Read the article again
2- Use the spectacles and read again
3- Unfortunately, if you are blind then ask someone to read it for you
4- If you can’t read do the same as mentioned in point# 3.
Whom did I curse? And please mention the line number in my comments.
Now coming to question#1
I asked why did Zaid Zaman Hamid supported and defended army/Musharraf massacre on Lal Masjid ???
– First of I am not Zaid Hamid,
– Secondly, I am not his f***** supporter
– Thirdly, I am not a Lal Majid guy
– Lastly I don’t know what was the reason and what was the actual story behind all what happened in Lal Masjid.
Now coming to Mr.Qazi and Maulana Diesel and their fanatic retard gangs.
I only commented on the article published in an unknown newspaper that is referred by every one all the time.
“Regarding Jasarat article which have narrated 100% true story of Mansoor Tayeb and I know mansoor for the past 19 years and I can give my words for his honesty and credibility.”
Mr.Arif I am sure you are not a kid and I can imagine that you are a mature person… right? Sorry that wrong ….lolzzzzzz
look at the maturity, You ask me to believe in a story of an unknown newspaper by an unknown person because you know him… hahahah.. Do I know you????
You are pretending like a school going kid that cuz i know him , he is 100% honest so believe me .. plz believe me.. ohhh come on man .. show some maturity..
Lastly, damn to f**** Yousaf Kazab and damn to f**** Zaid zaman if they are associted to a cult that claims false prophesy … I am not one of them… Now plz believe me cuz i am honest .. plz plz plz…
May Allah destroy those who claim to be prophets and and all their associates and their families.. Ameen…
ppl here are f***** crazy.
Why do you blame any one who speaks against anyone else that he is a damn Qadayani, he is yousaf’s cult member, he is this and he is that..
I am not associated to any one… for god sakes stop blaming each other …
If I disagree with you view and thougths I am straight away labeled as ISI agent, Mush supprter, Qadayani, Munkir,Kafir and Yousaf kazab’s cult member..
So then where is the actual discussion going…
The blog post simply mentioned the fact according to the the blog writer. Now if I disagree with him, its my right. And it is written against Zaid hamid…
Now will somebody, somehow ask that man to defend himself… because we are biting each other for no reason….
@ Shahid, Zafar Iqbal, Arif, Ali etc. etc
read Arshad Khan’s comment of 29th octobre at 6.21
this article is quite decent and kind, contrary to
your sotises and fake, lies and cheats.
Either you disappear or sendin your clown
Khalifa-ul-khuraffat, if he has guts. Immature kids are
nulls.
@ Ali,
your last para,
would you damn also the Kazib Mirza ? I begin with that !
@ali
no body blamed any one.People are asking few simple questions which are still unanswered inspite of long heated debates and arguments.
And then you gave the entry with your dirty fingers pointing towrds mohtaram qazi hussain ahmed and you distracted the discussion.
lastly i want to send some laanat to any one who supported the action against jamia hafsa,including altaf kala
Is Pakistan Doomed?
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/is-pakistan-doomed/
The Suicide Anatomy – Must Read!
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/the-suicide-anatomy/
Marriott hotel, Islamabad, the sign of glory, architecture, services and status is now nothing but a dump and mark of devastation, with blood, dust and smoke filled with tears, cries and smell of burnt human flesh. The footage broadcasted on television channels with a tag of ‘PG’ are just an indicant of how miserably the suicide bomber has turned a hell around in pursuit of paradise for him. After 20th September’s tragedy, It’s useless to question the security lapse when the security guards of hotel themselves are among the list of dead ones. It’s also another difficult quest for security agencies to trace the suspicious truck, when already dozens of such vehicles are running freely on roads. It’s also of no use to just present statistics of suicide bombing happened so far in these years. It’s time to make a detailed anatomy, the suicide anatomy. Who are the godfathers running this suicide factory; the planners, the financiers, the strategists, the facilitators, the motivators and the fuel to Paradise? What chain of events has brought Pakistan to such a self destructive mode? Is the motive of a man with suicide jacket deals in the short cut to heaven or there are other dimensions too? Is there any way to dismantle human bomb etc.
Historic prospective:
The phenomenon of Soviet-Afghan war in 80’s is self evident. Once, a journalist asked President Ronald Regan about the veracity of initiating Soviet war after a failed assignment of Vietnam War. Regan replied, “We would never lose Soviet war, because this time we have launched Jihad”. So, our intelligence services and CIA joint ventured a magnum opus thriving operation to devastate the Soviets. 20 to 30 thousand ‘mujahideens’ were brought from all over the world in Afghanistan. They were heroes for Pakistan, Afghanistan and US at that time. Hollywood made many propaganda movies to dedicate the valiant people of Afghanistan. Later, General Zia-ul-Haq killed in mysterious plane crash. Soon after it, democratic governments took charge. Stage was well prepared for USA to say good bye, leaving the Afghan land without introducing reforms or curing the wounds of Afghans, who suffered 10 years of war. The vacuum left was most vulnerable for anyone anywhere to come here, start training for militancy and become danger for peace. Pakistan was left alone. The so called ‘Mujahideens’ turned themselves to war lords, and started ‘Jihad’ among themselves. The supply of dollars was stopped. Battle field was open to be conquered, and lot of militant groups organized themselves to get the land occupied. I have no doubt that to retreat Soviets in Afghanistan was what required in our national interest at that time, but the most sensitive slip-up in all that phenomenon was the way the term ‘jihad’ had been coined, without thinking of the after effects.
The relic was natural. About 3.5 million Afghans killed in war. The 4 millions of refugees were to be accommodated in sole by Pakistan. Our social fabric was disturbed badly. For the first time, Pakistan was introduced by Kalashnikov culture and narcotics. The victorious ‘mujahideens’ were warmly embraced at our tribal areas. They have been offered by the tribes to get married there and breed a new generation with blood having ‘gun powder’ inside. Under such an environment, it was safe refuge for any group to label itself a Jihadi organization, and to start asking for ‘chanda’, armed themselves and to start turmoil at any level. Later in 1995, Talibans were re-emerged. The society mind set polarized with sectarian biases opened the arms well to accept them. Since, all that was assumed to be featured by religious motives, every one feared to oppose them. Thousands have been killed by clashes among them. That all what we reaped was in accordance with what we have sown. We mixed up state and religion in sensitively careless manner earlier, in 1970’s and later in Zia regime, all Jihadist ideologies were being sponsored by state machinery. To grow sympathies for jihadists on youth scale, changed academic syllabus introduced. It might be the most effective strategy on short term scale to secure the national interests regarding possible Soviet invasion at us, but that strategy was disaster on long term scale. It proved itself to be a germ pool of plasmodium of religious intolerance and militarization under the cover of Jihad.
Like an uncontrolled reaction at a laboratory, we observed the bi product of that dollar sponsored ‘Jihad’, in the form of sectarian extremist groups. Harkat-ul-Jihaad-ul-Islami (1980), Tehreek-e-Nifaaz-e-Fiqa-e-Jaafria (1980), Harkat-ul-Mujaahedeen (1985), Sipaah-e-Sihaaba (1985), Harkat-ul-Insaar (1993), Sipaah-e-Muhammad (1993), Lashkar-e-Jhangwi (1994), Jaish-e-Muhammad (2000) are just few of them. With the feel of blood thirst among each other, such organizations started making turmoil in the country, and openly inflame the common masses to join them for some so called religious motives. Thousands of lives lost in conflicts among them. Our roads tasted the drops of human blood. Security agencies appeared standing helpless in front of such a violent agitation. We failed to find any spark in democratically elected governments to root out that evil. Regrettably many of the politicians including the ones in government or in opposition provided the protection to them, as well.
The madrassas were the best breeding field to get the human resource to be used by such organizations. Few political parties with some religious titles were safety valves for such madrassas, involved in the activities other than just study. Since, the students of these madrassas are always most vulnerable to be brainwashed by such groups and organizations, it was easy to engage them in any bloody turmoil for their own vested interests. Thousands and thousands lost their lives in the clashes, and strategy to support the Jihadists during 80’s turned out as a horrible nightmare for the nation in 90’s.
When General Pervez Musharraf took charge of Pakistan in a bloodless coup, situation was at worst. Police was helpless to struggle against the well established network of Jihadists. From 12th October 1999 till 14th August 2001, there were 55 casualties in Karachi only and 61 in FATA in sectarian clashes. In June 2001, terrorists killed Shoukat Raza Mirza Managing Director (Pakistan State Oil) PSO and his driver in Karachi. Soon after it, Syed Zafar Hussain Zaidi-Director Research Laboratories, Ministry of Defense was killed. Lashkar-e-Jhangwi claimed the responsibility of both. Bold steps were required to curb that Frankenstein. Such steps are difficult to expect from any democratically elected government having dapper designed suit. General Musharraf-a man in (Special Services Group) SSG jacket didn’t waste an opportunity to coin all such moves to undo the wrongs of his predecessor General Zia-ul-Haq. On 14th August 2001, he banned Laskhar-e-jhangwi, and later on 12th January 2001, he announced a ban on Sipaah-e-Sihaaba Pakistan and Tehreek-e-jaafria Pakistan. This was the time when already a threat to kick Pakistan back on ‘stone age’ was floating in the thick atmosphere of Islamabad’s policy makers, and India had deployed his army at border.
To become an ally of Western world in ‘war against terror’ was the only choice for Pakistan, but that was an unpopular decision. On one hand, government had to deal with the external threats and on the other, had to face the public opposition. Election year was ahead, too. Tribal areas were the most horrible challenge to government, from where the cross border infiltration was evident. Usama Bin Laden, regardless of confession of involvement of Al-Qaida behind 9/11 attacks, was the most popular old guy for the men on streets. This all was like a horrible dream for any government, but Pervez Musharraf-a man holding most toughest office in the world, as said by ‘Times’ magazine, faced them audaciously, and brought Pakistan out of sudden death like situation.
Here I would stop, and ask your attention over the chain of events.
It was 24th December 1999, when Indian Airlines passenger plane flight-814 took off from Khatmandu and after being hijacked by few masked men landed at Qandahar. Hijackers demanded India to release Mulla Masood Azhar, Mushtaq Zargar and Umer Shaikh. At 31st December 1999, Wajpaayi government surrendered and Indian foreign minister Jaswant Singh brought with him these 3 persons in a special plane to Qandahar to resolve that issue. Now things happened dramatically. Mulla Masood Azhar launched ‘Jaish-e-Muhammad within few weeks after being released. Zargar and Umer Shaikh went underground. Later in late 2001, famous ‘shoe bomber’ development took place. Daniel Pearl-South Asia bureau chief of ‘Wall street Journal’ arrived on 29th December 2001 to Karachi to make a detailed story to publish regarding ‘shoe bomber’. He met various members of ‘Jaish-e-Muhammad’ and all of a sudden on 23rd January 2002, every news channel started breaking news that Daniel is kidnapped by Jihadists. This was disastrous for Pakistan. President Musharraf visit to USA was just ahead in few days. Kidnappers were sending threatening emails to ‘Wall street Journal’ with the photographs of Daniel. Biggest search operation of history of Pakistan was made to rescue him. Later, Umer Sheikh surrendered himself to police on 5th February 2002. Investigations started. When President Musharraf was in USA, on 14th February, all the international press was quoting Umer Shaikh, “Daniel is dead”. How big was all that embarrassment.
Coincidence or Perfection?
Have you observed the timing associated with these events? Is it a mere co-incidence or perfection of the plan? Now, let us observe another event. President Musharraf was attending the UNO General Assembly in November 2001 and war against terror was the hottest assignment for the world leaders present there. Meanwhile, Hamid Mir-a journalist from Pakistan published an exclusive interview of Usama Bin laden, claiming, “Al-Qaida has nukes”. We can imagine the position of President Musharraf standing among the world leaders in UNO to defend Pakistan. Now, link this situation with another visit of President Musharraf of USA. It was September 2003, when George Tenet-the CIA Director asked Musharraf about the nuclear proliferation from Pakistan. This again was a hard test for leadership. Even recently, just a day before President Zardari’s departure to USA, there happened Marriott’s blasts and responsibility is claimed by an unknown organization, ‘Fidayaan-e-Islam’. USA blamed Al-Qaida to be possibly involved behind the blasts. Is it all mere set of frequent co-incidences? It’s difficult to swallow that pill. Surely the entire world has changed after 9/11, and what has been written above is the sequel to a bigger conspiracy behind the plane attacks. There is no iota of doubt regarding the involvement of Al-Qaida and Bin Ladin behind 9/11, yet it’s not digestible that few people residing at mountains, having no training of aviation etc. are sole responsible of all that. Surely, some bigger intelligence slur in curtain.
9/11 Aftershocks:
The role of Talibans in Afghanistan was one of vital importance for Pakistan. Taliban regime was not supportive to India at all, and that was what best suited to Pakistan. After 9/11, Taliban regime was kicked out and CIA sponsored-Karzai government was put on board. Soon after it, we found the reorganization of separatists’ movement in Baluchistan. Baluch liberation army (BLA) and its cohorts asking openly for establishment of ‘Greater Baluchistan’ are getting full support from Afghanistan and India. This year, official holiday is given at 15th August to synchronize it with the independence day of India, but nowhere in national media, is reported. New democratic government is releasing the militants of BLA etc. and withdrawing the charges, giving them full choice to restructure themselves to design more rebellion in Baluchistan. In Swat, Parachanar and tribal areas etc., crystal clear evidences are there of the involvement of RAW and CIA. Let’s have some deep insight.
All the investigation reports for suicide attacks in Pakistan indicate the link to tribal belt. The center of gravity of all the terrorism in Pakistan is Bait-ullah-Mehsud at South Waziristan. The supreme commanders of ‘Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan’ and Baluch separatists are working in full support by CIA and RAW.
The rationale is self evident, as given below;
1- Regardless of all the intelligence information sharing by ISI, Baitullah Mehsud is never hit by NATO. He daily enjoys using satellite phones, yet supposed not to be traced by a super power. On 24th May 2008, Baitullah conducted an open press conference. That day, CIA not hit him, even after knowing 6 coordinated positions, given by ISI.
2- The most frequently used material in suicide attacks is “C4 Plastic explosive”. It is available nowhere in Pakistan. Investigation reports claim that the factory making suicide jackets run in neighboring country and then are given to their assets, residing at tribal areas.
3- At the border, there are many consulates of India, which are supposed to work as intelligence bases.
4- Many killed militants of ‘Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan’ are found to be Hindus, not having ‘Khatnaas’ even. The same has been investigated for many militants in Swat.
5- NATO claims that there is cross border terrorism to Afghanistan from Pakistan, but yet not allowing Pakistan to seal Afghan border either by fencing or mining. Earlier, when Pakistan introduced bio-Metric cards to control cross border movement, Afghan side not encouraged this move.
6- After many years of military operations, still we are unable to curb militants completely. Surely, the finances and weaponry support is given to Baitullah Mehsud and his men from some other outfit as well. Last year, 300 troops of Pakistan army surrendered against Baitullah Mehsud. Surely, some one more advanced than our army and intelligence agencies is giving information and support to Baitullah Mehsud. After about couple of months, only 211 are released. Remaining ones are killed and slaughtered brutally by militants. Even videos are available of such horrible act. Please note here that contrary to Mehsud led Talibans, Mullah Umer led Afghan Talibans were known to be rigidly against photography etc.
7- The involvement of Abdullah Mehsud-the brother of Baitullah Mehsud in killing of Chinese Engineers also is an indicant that under the label of anti-USA organizations much is going in pipeline to disturb relations of Pakistan to a friendly nation-China.
8- In Swat and Parachanaar, many militants are arrested in uniform of Afghan army.
9- BLA is controlled by Brahmdaagh Bugti, having known connections with Afghan intelligence agencies and RAW. There are known video evidences to Pakistan’s intelligence agencies. These are also shown to Admiral Mike Mulin along with Baitullah–CIA collaboration.
The clones of Talibans:
Now it’s time to smell the difference between Talibans and clones of Talibans. Original Talibans are what supposed to be led by Mullah Umer. Baitullah led ‘Tehreek-e-Taliban’ is actually a clone sponsored by CIA and RAW. All the prominent indications are written above. However, there is no doubt that the people supporting and joining such organizations have full sympathies with the original ideologies of Talibans, and they feel proud in announcing themselves Talibans. The conspiracy lies only at the upper level of their command. The people belonging to lower cadre have no sense of understanding of all that.
The strategic importance of introduction of that clone in Pakistan is to get few apparent objectives. For example;
1- To establish USA strategic bases in our tribal areas.
2- To have pro-Indian regime in full control of Afghanistan.
3- To sideline the interests of China and Russia.
4- Destabilizing Pakistan and neutralizing Pakistan’s nuclear capability.
5- To make Afghanistan a hub for Opium production. A major share of drug internationally comes from Afghanistan. Don’t forget that US intelligence has announced Karzai’s brother as 2nd leading drug dealer.
6- To sabotage IPI (Iran-Pakistan-India)pipeline project and to root out Gawadar port.
Behind the suicide:
After having such analysis, now it’s time to focus only on suicide phenomenon in Pakistan. There are multi-folded factors running parallel behind that horrible human bomb industry.
First of all, as discussed earlier, the explosive material for blasts is not something to collect easily without having main stream linkages with the key players involved. Main key organization is ‘Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan’, which takes the responsibility of most of suicide attacks in Pakistan and openly challenges for many more attacks. All other leading militant groups covering themselves in the label of religion have their tentacles in romance with Baitullah Mehsud. They are involved in militancy, training for ‘jihad’, killing army and security agencies, blasting girls’ school etc.
Secondly, the financiers and motivators involved are sponsored by anti-state elements, residing both within Pakistan and outside. Regarding external sponsors, much has been stated above. As for as inner ones is concerned, few are those who were involved in Soviet-Afghan war and later in emergence of Talibans in 90’s. Now, they are serving for the greater game plan of CIA, by motivating these Jihadis. They are well known as defense and strategic analysts. They openly speak against USA, and provoke Jihadists to keep on performing their ‘holy mission’. They inject dreams of ‘Islamic Renaissance’ in their minds. They appear frequently in national media. They brainwash their audiences that Pakistan army is killing our own people to appease USA. Hence, they demoralize the army and nation and mislead that this is not our war. Similarly, few are from political parties, receiving dollars to carry on vested agendas in Pakistan. Interestingly, they are also known for their harsh stance against USA. They support and provide covers to madrassas involved in militancy. In addition, media channels and many columnists are known for their biases towards Pak army. They speak against President Musharraf’s policies, they criticize intelligence agencies, and try to make perceptions that Pakistan is serving for interests of USA. Our 24/7 media has never started any campaign against these radical fanatics. They tried justifying the militancy and Red mosque terrorists by blaming President Musharraf and army of everything. In this way, they provoke feelings in favor of jihadists. For instance, a most popular columnist ‘Javed Choudhray’ has once openly favored Molvi Fazlullah (Swat), Abdul Rasheed Ghazi, and Baitullah Mehsud, saying that they are fighting for Justice.
Thirdly, the most important is the supply of human resource for suicide blasts. There is no fraction of doubt at all, that the only motive running in blood of a suicide bomber is ‘religious’. Symbiosis of religious extremism and terrorism is terrible. Suicide bombers believe from their heart and soul that they were following divine path and fulfilling a holy mission. The videos are available to express their final thoughts before going to deadly mission. You would fail to find any sense of fear at their faces. They embrace their trainer and colleagues very peacefully and they all congratulate them of ‘paradise’. Such mindset is easy to design in madrassas system. The students there are usually from lower class. Their parents can’t afford them to send at some good schools or institute. The economic and financial pressure forces them to send their kids to religious centers. Moreover, such students have very often low IQ. So, it looks a good choice for their families to engage them in any madrassas, assuming it a service to religion as well. The strict ideologies taught at madrassas make such students totally away from main stream mode of life. They appear fully isolated. Knowing that they have no scope of an established and prosperous future, their psychology disturbs miserably. Outcome is natural. There emerges a sense of revenge and hatred for society. Most of madrassas are featured by sectarian and hate literature. The madrassas administrators use these students for their own interests. Whenever there is some sensitive or emotional issue, they use these students to make protests on roads and streets. The poor guys have no other choice available either. The biggest example is of ‘Lal Masjid’. The students, both male and female are used by the clerics for all the illegal activities freely. They were too indoctrinated that they started dreaming for ‘martyrdom’. The cleric arrested while escaping in ‘burqa clad’ is the most painful and regrettable example to expose them. The investigations regarding recent Wah POF suicide blasts which killed about 100, announced the involvement of a madrassa from ‘Akora Khattak’.
Here, one important thing must be added. There is also an ‘Economic’ motive. Suicide trend is also established like an industry. There are perpetrators who channelize suicide bombers and market to other groups. Not only this, such producers also blackmail the governments of these human bombs, in order to collect bounties of money.
How to dismantle a human bomb:
If we need to dismantle a human bomb, we have to follow a multi-prong strategy. This must be a win-win strategy, as we have no other choice. On one side, at tribal belt, must put on board the military actions supported by tribal elders. Secondly, speed up the developmental progress in tribal belt and providence of better life opportunities to add the people in main stream. Thirdly, education must be revolutionized to enlighten their conscience. Fourthly, there is an urgent need to bring our madrassas to the main stream. For it, all the madrassas must be registered and the record of students would be shared to government as well. The syllabi of madrassas must be checked out and revamped to bring according to the modern age requirement. Strong checks and balances must be made to stop any trace of militancy, to avoid more Lal masjids. The illegally occupied and expanded mosques and madrassas must be monitored. Moreover, strong check over any sort of hatred literature or sermons and misuse of loud speakers must be taken. Friday sermons must need to be documented. Steps should be taken to enlighten the madrassas student by the availability of multimedia facilitation to give them the broader view of world we are living in. Fifthly and perhaps most important is to bring awareness in masses to stand up against such obscurantist ideology and to oppose these fanatics loudly. All these steps if taken simultaneously would bring a positive change in Pakistan. Remember we have already wasted much time, and now our picture internationally is not too smart against terrorism and extremism.
Pakistan at Cross roads:
Pakistan is standing at the cross roads of her fate. Nation has to choose the one. It may lead to blind end, or may lead to the bridges of continued existence. Pakistan is sandwiched between 2 fascists’ ideologies; one followed by extremists and other followed by West in the name of ‘war against terror’. We have to hoard ourselves from both of them. While frightened of USA attacks over tribal areas of Pakistan, we must not forget that if USA stops acting like, even then terrorists would not leave us at peace. We, as a nation must stand up together, and join hands together for ‘Pakistan first’. Only then we can be able to resist these extremists and terrorists and be able to change the international perceptions against Pakistan. After being united, second most important thing is to show no trace of despondency. Pakistan army is alert 24 hours for the nation. People of tribal areas are also now fighting along Pakistan army against the terrorists. Now, there remains no doubt that this is OUR War and we have to fight it. Pakistan is not meant for defeat. We must win. We must win for ourselves and for our future generations.
@ dr_jawwad71
but Mr.Doc, if no one is blaming then why am I so conscious in writing comments .. cuz I know one word here can make me Kafir and Yousaf’s cult member…
And Mohtaram Qazi.. yeah he might be your godfather, but I hate him and his fanatic gang and thats my right! and I have my own opinions about him. You should not have any problem with that… and above all I can express my haltered towards him at any forum, thats my right too… after all its a democratic country , right?
Doc Alvi:
Could you please check if “Nousheen” and “Sarah” are new nicks of one of our friends here. What a coincidence that two “ladies” just happen to post cr@p of the ZZH buddies ISI linked (Pakistan First “Think Tank” and Ahmed Qureshi)
For those who don’t know ZZH, AQ and PFTT are in a very symbiotic relationship each promoting the other on their website. So seems to be this PakAlert blog. Have a look at titles of articles posted and you will get the idea. Some examples:
The Plan To Topple Pakistan Military
Musharraf’s Pakistan Had True Potential
EXCLUSIVE: Musharraf Is Writing A Second Book
Arrested Militants: RAW, Afghan Agency Funding Pakistan Terrorism
9th Anniversary Of Gen. Musharraf’s Coup
Ayesha Siddiqa’s MILITARY INC: A Deflective and Derogatory Book
You get the idea…
@ali
peoples are rightly instigated because one way or other it leads to yousuf kazzab(not fanatic).people witnessed and some suffered badly because yousuf kazab and his followers (non fanatics) that is why you cought in crossfire.
Yes it is democratic country but maniacs should not have an access to internet.
Dr Jawwad Khan:
It did occur to me that I would be declared a whatever-bad-thing-comes to your head, such is the nature of with-hunt. I believe by now Dr. Awab must have known my identity for he is very adept with technology.
As for the noor ayat reference (which had surprised me too, since I accidentally came across that about ten weeks ago when randomly leafing through Quran), it is in Tarjuman-al-Quran by Muadudi and I have mentioned that -please be mature enough to read the reference. By the way, I thought every educated Muslim has heard of Allah Hu Noor us Samawaat e Wa-al Ardh?
Once you have done your job, we shall talk further.
I am a Syedda, and I have no problem speaking the truth that I believe in.
Corrections-
It did occur to me that I would be declared a whatever-bad-thing-comes to your head, such is the nature of witch-hunt*. I don’t mind, go ahead call me whatever your aqal settles on. I believe by now Dr. Awab must have known my identity for he is very adept with technology.
As for the noor ayat reference (which had surprised me too, since I accidentally came across that about ten days* ago when randomly leafing through Quran), it is in Tarjuman-al-Quran by Muadudi and I have mentioned that -please be mature enough to read the reference. By the way, I thought every educated Muslim has heard of Allah Hu Noor us Samawaat e Wa-al Ardh?
Once you have done your job, we shall talk further.
I am a Syedda, and I have no problem speaking the truth that I believe in.
Links posted in defense of ISI/army massacre of Lal Masjid by “Nousheen” and “Sarah” (which are supporter of Zaid Hamid) nows confirms that Zaid is a ISI agent.
Oh I just skimmed through the comments above – it seemed that Lone Ranger has given the reference of the Ayat I mentioned. I have a paper version of where I read it, and I was trying to look up the same in Compendium of Muslims Texts, but didn’t manage to find.
Go ahead, find it in the Quran. Why ask other people to tell you? What if, as Dr Jawwad suspects, I am really a qadiyani or just a bored teenager trying to mess you all up? Will you believe me or disbelieve me? What do you have minds and hands and legs for? Why not go and buy a book for yourself and start investigating? What stops you?
If someone doesn’t do that and still argue, they are only interested in blood, not Truth.
I said it, whoever is interested in investigating the ayat I referred to is welcome to go pick a copy of Tarjuman al-Quran by Maulana Maududi and look up the episodes about Adam’s creation and Iblees’ refusal to do sajda. Go ahead if you are so truly motivated.
Besides, go further ahead and read history. The Jews came to ask the Prophet peace be upon him several trick questions. One was, “What is Rooh?” IN THE QURAN YOU CAN FIND THE ANSWER. Allah advised the Prophet, and I repeat the Quranic words in Urdu, “Rooh to faqat Amar-e-Rabbi hai.”
English translation: “Spirit is the deed/ work of Allah.”
Hzzrat Isa is called “Rooh Allah” – have we never heard of that?
There is a prayer of the Prophet – a masnoon dua – which says Allah fill me with your Noor. The prayer goes on to request that our bodies, blood, everything is filled with Allah’s Noor. Have we never read that in our panj-Sura? If not, how is it someone else’s fault?
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And a true Sufi will fight for truth tooth & nail – weakness is not what Muslims are made of. Courage is what makes Islam a complete deen – for courage is the basis of Jihad and Amar-e B’il maroof va nahi a’nil Munkir. What kind of argument is that a person who argues or fights back is NOT a person of the Tareeqa (or is not a righteous Muslims)? Who were the mujahideen of Badr then? Violent people? They were true blue Muslims who fought for the Truth. Imam Hussein fought for the truth against the jahalat of those who called themselves Muslims too, but were mired in ignorance. Ignorance is a behavior. No one gets up on this Earth with a kalima professing to ignorance. Even Ibless calls Allah his Lord – read the Quran where he takes Allah’s PERMISSION to misguide people. He never disbelieved in Allah, he swore on Allah to misguide people until the end of Time and Allah permitted him.
Will you call me a misguided person for saying that? Just because YOU never had time to read the Quran?
You know this whole blog could be about Disneyland buying Safari Park, and Bill Gates being behind it all. The content is not the point.
What is truly scary is the way information has been put together on hearsay, and much more troubling is the way people are constructing their arguments. Imagine we all writing to Disneyland saying, “Hey we heard you’re buying our Safari Park? You’re killing the environment!” And they copy/pasting their replies to which one of the aqalmands here concluding: “Disneyland is sending a ditto reply to us all. This means they are buying Safari Park, and it’s Bill Gates behind this.” Subhan’Allah! What a reason to condemn someone!
It is awful to have an angry mob of truly stupid people unable to investigate the truth, following every rumor, and ready to kill or want to kill.
People, if you fear Allah, wake up for your own sake! USE YOUR OWN BRAIN. Don’t even listen to me. Assume I am a qadiyani and the devil himself. (I am not bothered, Allah knows me.)
Go, pick up your favorite translation of the Quran and READ. READ till you find your answer. Read till you know the truth you are seeking. Read. Read so you may be able to tel liars apart from the honest, misguided apart from the rightly guided. READ so you may know and no next person can fool you. Go ahead, invest your time and effort if it really bothers you. Don’t worry, at the end of it, Allah is NOT going to ask you how many ppl you were able to damn to hell. This remains Allah’s prerogative, mind you own job which is to KNOW THE TRUTH.
wow!syeda bibi (@know)
what a translation.I must admit that i didn’t read this kind of translation.
Allah Hu Noor us Samawaat e Wa-al Ardh
is it mean that(nauz o billah)these star,planets,sky and mountains are the continuation of ALLAH?
OR
It means that these are paragon of creativity from ALLAH(SWT)
is it the reason that yousuf kazzab called him self “the continuation of noor e mohammadi” (maaz allah)
please don’t tell me who you are.give me the verse no and
surah,which i still not able to see from your posts.
tasauwuf is the way to purify oneself in order to please ALLAH(SWT), not an excuse to by pass shaiyah.
that is why it is said that TAREEQAT is under and within the limits of SHAREEAT.(not above and beyond)
junaid baghdadi(rehmatullah aleh) once said that if you saw a person flying in the sky or walking over waters,comes to you and does some thing against shariyah then you should punish him because a wooden piece can float over waters and a fly can fly well in the air.
Doc Awab:
I think the above discussion is near conclusion. There is no doubt left that:
1. ZZH was a “sahabi” and promoter of Yusuf Kazzab (that is why he is encouraging his supporter now to defend the false prophet instead of clearly declaring that his being associated with him was a grave mistake or black patch of his life and now he regrets it)
2. Being defended by the likes of Ahmed Qureshi and PFTT guys it is established that he is an ISI agent. A couple of days ago he even dared to say in his program that “ghazwa-i-hind” will be fought by Pak Army! He is defending the rape of Pakistan by the generals who are being paid by American CIA for the so-called war on terror.
I would like to request you to write a concluding remark and close this discussion now.
For the supporters of Yusuf Kazzab and ZZH it would be enough to state QAALU SALAMA as they are those JAHILOON whose hearts are dead and have been sealed by Allah (SWT). Neither they can see the truth about Islam nor Pakistan.