In the past few weeks there has been a buzz spreading around Pakistan’s digital world talking about the recent fame surrounding the TV show personality Zaid Hamid who conducts a show on TV One called Brasstacks. It should be mentioned that brasstacks is reportedly a paid-for show which has started airing barely a few months back and has developed a very strong following amongst the masses. Admittedly Zaid Hamid is quite eloquent in his show and is well versed in his explaining his innumerable concepts of ranging from economic terrorism by the Zionists to other such issues which are poised at him even Islamic issues
I too have been guilty of occasionally catching a glimpse of his show and did even carry his five part series on Economic Terrorism. All seemed well until a close associate contacted me via facebook sharing his concerns about Zaid Zaman Hamid and revealed his suspicious association with Yousuf Ali, a self proclaimed prophet from Lahore in the 1990’s. Zaid Zaman was purportedly the right hand man of Yousuf Ali and was fondly referred to as his Hazrat Ali. Zaid Zaman was instrumental in spreading the message of prophecy far across Pakistan, to develop a large cult like following in Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad mostly due to Zaid Zaman’s excellent communication skills.
Yousuf Ali had been preaching his divine revelation to his followers for quite many years when finally a handful defected and braved to testify against him in the Lahore High Court which ultimately gave Yousuf Ali, a death sentence on charges of Blasphemy. Yousuf Ali was then confined to Kot Lakhpath jail and in 2001 was shot dead by a fellow prisoner. Throughout the legal proceedings one witness after another testified to the fact that Zaid Zaman was a key figure in the promotion of Yousuf Ali’s Kazzab movement. I have been told that there even does exists an analog video of Zaid Zaman standing beside Yousuf Ali while he addressed his followers in Lahore. Somehow the fact that Zaid Zaman was a key figure in this movement is generally a foregone conclusion, as there are one too many eye witnesses and more importantly numerous had testified the fact which may even be present in the records of Lahore High Court, including Zaid Zaman’s testimony to the honorable judge, all records are securely preserved in the archives of Tahaffuz-e-Khatm-e-Nabuwwat in Karachi.
The Zaid Zaman Hamid storm actually started with the email from Naufil Shahrukh, a close friend whom I have known since 1990, the email at first in the form of a private message on Facebook but soon propagated online and published on Dictatorship Watch, verbatim
If you guys remember the Pakistan false prophet, Yousuf Ali, who was arrested and sentenced to death by the Lahore High Court and then murdered in Kot Lakhpat jail by a fellow prisoner – this guy Zaid Hamid was known as Zaid Zaman at that time and was the Khalifah of that Kazzab. Zaid is still leading that cult which belongs to the Firqah Batinyah of Sufism and they have a different aqeedah altogether which they only profess within their inner core. Many of my personal friends fell prey to his charisma in the 1990s, some of them reverted back to Hidayah and were instrumental in filing a case against Yusuf Ali which ultimately lead to his death sentence and the cult members dispersed for a few years.
The time line of events that he narrates in his letter are erringly accurate and when Naufil mentioned to me later pointing out the common friends who fell prey to this cult one does weigh in a sigh of relief to have been spared of the poison. The most logical reason as to why our neighborhood was penetrated to such an extent can be attributed to the fact that Zaid Hamid hailed from our locality. Off the friends who willingly embraced Yousuf Ali’s prophecy was Ryzwan Tayyab who very soon featured himself as a militant leader of the movement and after the collapse of this movement has retreated into a cocoon of severe depression irreparably damaging his family around him. Ryzwan was also involved in actually issuing death threats to the few journalists who were critically investigating Yousuf Ali back in those days.
The resurfacing of Zaid Hamid after 15 years of hibernation is interesting, he catapults himself in 2006 as a security threat analyst frequently publishing PDF based Pakistan threat reports for a subscription fee of Rs. 25,000 but within a span of a two years mustered up enough finances to launch a self sponsored TV show which started transmission in the early months of 2008, suspiciously timed around the fall of the Pervaiz Musharraf’s regime. The sudden shot to fame on TV is being compared to the launch of Dr. Shahid Masood’s End of Time series, which too was based on an eloquent anchor with one too many theories to present.
Off the numerous people stepping forth to expose Zaid Hamid the must read narration is of a two year email correspondence between Zaid Hamid and Abidullah Jan. It gives an insight onto Zaid Zaman when he first started sharing his BrassTacks Security reports, slowly moving into becoming a much sought after personality. What was interesting to read was when in the early months of 2007 Zaid Zaman approached Abidullah Jan struggling to stay afloat and requested Abid to help promote his security reports to a wider audience “I am in need of some clients to stay afloat as I am being squeezed by the government’s men for being too open and ruthless”. Zaid Hamid a few months later, after the 3rd Nov Martial Law appeared on a couple of pro-Musharraf TV shows on PTV with Ahmed Qureshi. Then suddenly out of the blue he is able to muster up enough finances to launch a self sponsored show on TV One. Watching a person flutter from being financially strapped and haunted by ‘government’s men’ to appearing on a pro-Musharraf show, then having catapulting into his own show seems all too suspiciously the work of some ‘hidden hands‘
If coincidence was anything to go by, I also noted that around this time emerged Zaid Hamid’s articles on a very staunch pro-Musharraf proponent Ahmed Quraishi who continues to wage an online battle with the Anti-Musharraf sect. When today I inquisitively launched a witch hunt for Zaid Hamid on the website I was surprised to see that quite a few of Zaid Hamid’s editorials were missing for example the January 29th article which should have led to the page has been removed from the website sometime after September 5th 2008 [as indicated by the Google Cache] and this is not the only article missing of the series, I wonder why the sudden cover up after September 5th by Ahmed Quraishi.
The only acknowledgment of any link with Yousuf Ali came from an email shared with me privately where Zaid Hamid Alhamdolillah, i have nothing to do with Yousuf or his beliefs or any other people like him.
Lest I be charged of taking this message out of context I share with you the entire section of the email so people may understand his response fully
In the last 30 years of my life, In search of truth and to study this world and its ideologies, Allah took me to many places and I met many people. I have traveled with Iranian revolution, have faught in Afghan Jihad, have gone out with Tablighi Jmaat, spent time with Jamaat Islami, have met hundreds of people including Dr. Israr, Ahmad deedat, Yusuf Islam, Anne Marrie schimmel and so on and so forth. Have also been with sufi groups in Pakistan, Turkey, Madina and Cyprus. I have also seen the western society, its civilization from a close range. Whatever I speak and do today, is the result of these experiences in life but with the mercy of Allah, He protected his humble slaves and keeps them in His infinite mercy and guidance. He showed me the world and people, but kept me away from their harm and made me benefit from any khair they had.
I also met and studied many objectionable people who were controversial but in the end Allah kept me away from them. It was all learning experiences. Alhamdolillah, i have nothing to do with Yusuf or his beliefs or any other people like him
Though he puts forth a convincing argument but it seems yet again that he refuses to acknowledge his association with Yousuf Ali to categorically say that he has “nothing to do with Yousuf or his beliefs” is this admittance of his association or denial of the fact?
Proponents of Zaid Hamid continue to plead his innocence even today as Pakistan First blog, which has been previously labeled to have a strong pro-Musharraf tilt, shared an article by Asif Shiraz who writes Zaid Hamid: As I knew him
I first met Zaid hamid at the youthful age of 17, when the emotions were high, and the search for truth pristine and innocent. A friend had told me about Zaid Hamid, and I was anxious to meet him: I was not disappointed. Our first meeting was a blast. I enjoyed Zaid sahib’s charismatic talk on many different issues, especially his passion about Islam and his knowledge on a diverse set of subjects. Although it’s been many years now, I still remember highlights of that conversation: Quotations from Iqbal, recollection of glorious events from the lives of the Sahaba, and discussion of the relevance of having truth faith “Yaqin”. Not once on that day, nor ever afterwards in these fifteen years, have I ever heard anything from Zaid Hamid which is incongruent to ideas present in mainstream religious teachings of Ahl-e-Sunnah wal-jamaat. No mention of any “cult ideology”, and no reference to anyone claiming “prophethood” whatsoever. He is a firm believer in Khatme-e-Nabuwat and the finality of Prophet Muhammad(sm). In fact, Zaid Hamid is the only person whom I have met, who lives in a rented home, but still spends a handsome chunk of his earnings every year to pay a visit to the blessed cities of Hijaz-e-Muqaddas. It is nothing other than Zaid Hamid’s love and devotion to the Prophet(sm) that he has visited Masjid-e-Nabwi more than 10 times. After the first initial meeting, I have been in touch with Zaid Hamid off and on for many years, until I moved to Chaklala Scheme III becoming his neighbor and an even closer friend.
Asif Shiraz does admit in his article that he is now a neighbor of Zaid Hamid but surprisingly fails to disclose that he is an employee of BrassTacks as proclaimed by him in this Facebook message (Screen capture) whilst a little investigation also sheds some light that Mr. Asif Shiraz incidentally happens to be the Administrative domain contact for Zaid Hamid’s website Brasstacks.biz (screen capture)
It is sadly Asif Shiraz’s attempt to stand up for his boss only goes to discredit Zaid Zaman. To analyze Zaid Hamid’s Brasstacks TV show one should read the two articles published in The News by Fasi Zaka September 18th The Pakistan Report and on 25th September published a follow up titled Hate Speech – II
My concern here remains is that Zaid Zaman is appearing on public TV and continues to eloquently preach his philosophy to the public at large, had if this individual remained as private entity, then we would have had no right to question his beliefs, but once he dons the public forum, then I feel it is the right of the people to know the facts. Generally as a free society we cannot stop him from sharing his opinion with the public at large but it is our right to question his logic and any underlying issues that may tarnish his analysis as he chooses to present to the public, and in the same pretext its important to then question his association with the self proclaimed prophet a notion strictly prohibited in the religion of Islam.
The mystery surrounding this controversy seemingly gets worse with every passing day, could it be a mere propaganda, could it be his attempt to cover up his past, or does he simply choose ignore and hopefully forget, but more importantly does he still believe in the prophecy, so many questions, all shall remain a mystery until he alone chooses to address the propaganda and clarify his position once in for all
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667 responses to “Who is Zaid Zaman Hamid? Brasstacks or Yousuf Kazzab Prophecy?”
@ Dr Jawwad:
Sorry dear, I didn’t say continuation. Did I? But what I can say is this, that if one says they “carry on” the spirit, then an idiot has all the possibility to misinterpret that. Open the dictionary, and investigate the meanings of words. People do have a poor grasp of literary terms in this neck of the woods.
Spirit means the spirit – like spirit of courage, spirit of sportsmanship, spirit of generosity. It does not mean spirit as in soul transferring, which is absurd. So if a person says the words “I carry the spirit of Mohammad peace be upon him” then 1: s/he should know an idiot can overhear and be prepared for the consequences. 2. It means the spirit of sidq, righteousness, generosity or whatever. It does not the kind of spirit we see let loose in Indian movies after a person’s death.
I recommend that we should all continue the spirit of the Prophet and carry that within us! Each single Muslim should have the spirit of the Prophet.
Go translate that in common sense speak! After all every Moharram Muslims speak of continuing the spirit of Imam Hussain? Never heard of that?
But I won’t speak for Yusuf Kazzab or Sadiq whatever he was. I only worry about the idiotic arguments here, and the utter lack of understanding of tasawwuf.
Finally I agree on the Shariah part. But of course! *Eye roll*
So I am not afraid to admit that I think that Yusuf was possibly a man who was wronged – after all no one invited me to investigate his case and only this blog reminded I read this story years ago. No conclusions. At the very least, even if he was a kazzab claimer to prophethood, then that’s his problem – it’s not the problem of Sufis or tasawwuf in general which this blog un-rightfully and ignorantly makes it to be. Both he and ZZH also happen to be men and Pakistanis. Now should we declare all males/ Pakistanis are liable to suspicion and going to hell? (We never know!)
I don’t care if there was an article against him in Jasarat or in New York Times. They are papers, they are not judgments from God, and they are often written by men with personal agendas. Even human courts could be wrong. My job is to make up my own mind and I am fully capable of doing that even if 6 billion people say otherwise.
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And now let’s assume I am the Devil. And a Jew who accepted Qadyanism in a Hindi temple. I eat crows. Well, how is that anyone’s problem? Does that disturb the iman of the pious? Is that how fragile the faith is? Then it is no faith at all if a TV program or a blog or comments on the blog can change that! There are people here whimpering that they believed in ZZH when they watched him, and a single reading of the blog changed their minds. Subhan’Allah! And what if tomorrow someone can cook together a proof that the blogger here belongs to a cult from Mars? What will the lovely readers do? Start crying again? “OOOOOHHHHHH this blogger lied! Ooooh, my heart is broken! Ooooooooh!”
Try making Allah the focus of your imaan sometime, and then you won’t lose your heart like a 13-yr old kid. (Sorry – did I just insult the 13-yr olds? All kids in my class at that age were very mature and laughed at such nonsense as has transpired on this page. We used to go to the library and talk and discuss before reaching a conclusion.)
As long as this society or any society asks the wrong questions, they get the wrong answers. Who is ZZH? Who is or was Yusuf? Where else is CIA or ISI reaching?
Well, the real question to ask is: WHO AM I? What am I doing here? What is my belief? Why am I such a terribly educated soul that a TV anchor can tell me one thing about the world and convince me of his view – and then one day a blogger can sway me otherwise? Am I blind? What knowledge do I have? What if there was no one to TELL ME WHAT TO THINK – what would my brain be doing then?
Why is it so that if I meet a qadyani/ Jew/ Mullah/ hindu/ devil/ archangel in disguise, I can’t tell the difference between a truth and a lie? What does that tell about my knowledge and character?
Go ahead. If you have courage, ask yourself these questions. Go ahead. Truth won’t disappear if you investigate.
STOP ASKING DR AWAB TO CLONCLUDE OR START – he is not an authority on anything except teeth. He is a dentist, not God. He is not an intelligence agency, this blog states that he started thinking about the whole issue when a FRIEND pointed the whole thing out. Don’t ask ZZH for answers. He could be a Muslim or a kafir and in either case he will keep on lying or telling the truth – IT DOES NOT MATTER. It’s stupid to ask a possible liar to clarify his position. Why not ask him, “Hey, we think you’re a kazzab associate. Can we kill you or try getting someone else to do that?” Imagine the answer he’ll give!
Grow up, be an adult Muslim. Focus on what Allah created you for and stop indulging in rumor-spreading, conjecture, buhtan, delusion.
Start learning yourself about the truth of life, stop having delusions about conspiracies, refer to the Quran directly there is NO BAN ON THAT, no one will stop you except your own ego. Go ahead, pick a Quran. GO AHEAD!
@ Dr Jawwad:
Here you go:
“Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: I am about to create man from clay. When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.” (38:71-72)
Lone Ranger found and posted that reference (thank, LR!) – but here you go again:
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1212925246967
In the case of Yusuf Ali, I feel that he may have made some statements which must have confused his audience just as the man asking the question on the URL above is. This is because of
1. poor education in Pakistan and people’s tendency to rely on others to solve their mental queries rather than on personal understanding.
2. Semantic difference. The word “prophet,” for instance is commonly used in English for anyone who gives news of the future. Whereas many Pakistanis have only heard of this word with regards to Prophets (the Divinely appointed kind). Rooh or spirit have the same case.
It is fair to wonder, but not fair to start killing people or believing people should be killed BEFORE reaching an answer for one’s self – and indeed usually not even after. No one is an authority unto themselves according to Divine Law except Allah. Therefore the Qur’an is there – it is direct and accessible.
Don’t ask dentists or TV anchors or anonymous commentators to clarify your deen for you – are these people the kind of people any sane person would turn to on issues of deen, especially when it starts to involve blood? Is that what Allah has taught us? Is that what the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him came to complete the deen for? The deen is completed – sorry, don’t try to create new divine messengers and prophets. I am called a qadyani which means I must believe there ought to be some guy claiming to be a Prophet / Messenger (I think that’s the belief – I haven’t wasted much of my lifetime affirming or negating other people). Well, then why in the other breath am I asked for showing the light of deen?
If you are truly Muslim, which I believe you are, learn for yourself. If not in the age of fitna, then when? This is the ultimate lesson of this blog: IF YOU DO NOT LEARN DIRECTLY – FOR YOURSELF – THEN ANYONE CAN DEFINE YOUR WORLD FOR YOU. Anyone. It is entirely possible that most anchors are driven by secret money. It is also entirely possible they are driven by no more than sheer stupidity. It is also entirely possible they are driven by the human urge to share news or knowledge. Anything is possible. That’s not the problem. YOU ARE YOUR PROBLEM AND RESPONSIBILITY. Your ‘maamla’ (affair) is between you and Allah. Correct that! Don’t ask people on the highway for directions.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spirit
It is perfectly logical and possible that a person can use the word spirit in the 3rd, 5th, 6th or 8th sense of the word as defined on the link above as on the time that this comment is published (web pages evolve!).
3: temper or disposition of mind or outlook especially when vigorous or animated
5 a: the activating or essential principle influencing a person b: an inclination, impulse, or tendency of a specified kind : mood
6 a: a special attitude or frame of mind b: the feeling, quality, or disposition characterizing something
8: a person having a character or disposition of a specified nature
AND IT IS ALSO entirely possible for a lesser aware person to translate that into any of these senses:
1: an animating or vital principle held to give life to physical organisms2: a supernatural being or essence: as acapitalized : holy spirit b: soul
2a c: an often malevolent being that is bodiless but can become visible ; specifically : ghost 2 d: a malevolent being that enters and possesses a human being
4: the immaterial intelligent or sentient part of a person
This kind of understanding is one that tasawwuf addresses often such as through the story of 4 blind men and the elephant – or the four men who all wanted grapes, but each wanted it in a different language and hence all of them fought, unable to understand one another.
These are Sufi stories, known to most Pakistani children familiar with Urdu literature – and they were told to share the nature of the limited capacity of human understanding.
For the sake of Truth, stop yourselves before declaring something as serious as sidq or kazb. Before deciding about someone’s imaan. Ask your heart if it is comfortable? Ask yourself why are you doing it anyway? Are you doing it to serve Allah? How are whatever you’re doing or saying improving your relationship with Allah?
May Allah protect our imaan and give us the spirit of relentless pursuit of Absolute Truth. Aameen.
breath taking!
one think i still couldn’t understand that why sufis go to such limits where a minor push can lead to brink of the hell,as someone also said in jungle or desert,either you can be waliullah or you can be the companian of shaitan.why they preach such terminologies which can be easily misinterptated.
no one can disagree with you except the last part.I strongly believe that @teeth maestro is doing a great job.
he provided a forum which not only keep us welinformed but also we can see different kinds views (you may not like)
we can raise questions and we can answer
it is unjust to say that this forum spread the rumors after all we are asking the questions to whom?
not an ordinory person of any belief.we are asking about the crdibility who have great influence in our people.
is it irresponsible act?
i think @dr awab and @teeth maestro are doing great job
lots of regards and prayers for both of you.
@know
creation of adam(pbuh) is a well known phenomenon bringing a lifeless body into living human being.
” rooh ” here used for ORDER of ALLH(SWT. the word “spirit”
can not represent the phenomenon of creation of adam.
the arabic word “AMR” is close to rooh in this verse.
please do not go througfh dictionaries when it comes to QURAN.
also when you read the hadeeth of sahee muslim in which it is narrated that ” angels are created from the noor, jinnat from ” maarij min nar” and human “salsalin kalfakhar” (from clay.
(kitab uzzohad bab hadeeth e mutafarriqa)
” In the case of Yusuf Ali, I feel that he may have made some statements which must have confused his audience just as the man asking the question on the URL above is. This is because of
1. poor education in Pakistan and people’s tendency to rely on others to solve their mental queries rather than on personal understanding.
2. Semantic difference. The word “prophet,” for instance is commonly used in English for anyone who gives news of the future. Whereas many Pakistanis have only heard of this word with regards to Prophets (the Divinely appointed kind). Rooh or spirit have the same case.
is it a defence of yousuf kazzab?
semantic difference?……my foot
he was convicted by court of law and please don’t say that your judgement is better than a qualified justice of high court as it make me laugh.
“Anyone. It is entirely possible that most anchors are driven by secret money”
dear @know isn’t a slander?
do you know what quran says about “slandering”
tell me about you. what is your driving force?
any way i must admit that you gave the best defence ever to yousuf kazzab.
SAF CHUPTEY BHEE NAHEEN SAMNEY AATEY BHEE NAHEEN
Do I notice that the followers of ZZH don’t forget to mention that they are “well qualified technocrat” , “educated expatriots” , another interesting point I notice is that they don’t forget to mention that they have never met ZZH blah blah…
Also it was interesting to read @know comments , she insisted reading Quran as if nobody reads it except her, and somehow I felt as if she is saying
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there are a lot of people reading and understanding Quran for centuries, I am sure Dr. Jawwad might have good understanding of Quran too as it appears from his comments (of course “Good” is relative to my understanding) .. but what I want to mention is that he does not boost about his Quranic Knowledge.
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As for my personal opinion , I remember I heard ZZH almost an year back in one of his program , and truthfully speaking I had a very hearty laugh and was extremely amused not only by his arguments but his expressions , and believe me somebody else also had the same laugh , check out 4man show who have produced gem that gives his (ZZH) best representation.
http://pkpolitics.com/2008/10/28/bolta-pakistan-28-october-2008/
@ This anti-Zaid Hamid blog has become so lethargic,
lazy and without interest, they repeat 24000 times
the same bloody argument and falsified routine papras,
i think they have lost totally against Mr Hamid
though they came with Qadianis,seculars, Marxists,
Roshakhayalis, progressivists and all the jerks of the
world, but they failed, sorry you have all lost.
filamaan.
Latest Article by Mr. Zaid Hamid:
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/india-pakistan-ppp/
@ Sara
“Latest Article by Mr. Zaid Hamid:”
I went through this article and read it thoroughly. Pls read this part of article and see this “Dalal” of khaki “Heejras” is using the word violate. It has been proved that the US drones do come to Pakistan with the permission of Pakistan army and government of Pakistan. Now what does violate means? Sara don’t you have a set of bangles to send to those who has given permission to the US. If you gona Send Pls also send a set for their Dalal Zaid Zaman Hamid.
“To complicate matters for Islamabad, U.S. drones continue to violate Pakistan’s air space and attack inside Pakistan on random targets of their choice without any concern for civilian losses or political or social crisis for Islamabad.”
Assallam aleikum, this criticism of zaid Hamid is unwarranted and based on untruth. I cannot see his picture or his resemblance standing next to Yusuf Kazzab as claimed by the writer. This is simply a fabricated story and could have been motivated by simple jealousy, something that is greatly increased in pakistanis.
I am afraid that I would have to consider that in this particular case, the author of this story is simply lying.
I have not met Zaid Hamid, nor do I know any one who has met him or knows him. His web site was emailed to me by my nephew living in Pakistan and until that time I had not heard of him.
What he says is plausible and supported by facts, especially his mentioning of the templars in one of his videos. Since I have an active interest in crusades, and the Knights templar, I do know that what he says is true.
No I am a not a historian but a simple well qualified technocrat. Khalid S.
@ Dr. Jawad:
Thank you for appreciating my “defense.”
It is quite clear, and I have no shame in saying that, I do not entirely feel Yusuf Ali was a Kazzab or claimed to Prophethood at all. I feel he was a man whose language was misconstrued – and I have given references from the Quran and from human dictionaries. You don’t want to accept it, go ahead, that’s your prerogative. I am sure it’s a genuine concern for any Muslim flowing out of the love of Prophet peace be upon him, and I understand that. I also think that at the same time, we honor Allah’s Law and the teaching of the Prophet if we leave matters of doubt, as the Prophet taught us. The Qur’an itself says when in Jihad, if a person says “Salaam!” don’t kill them just because you’re suspicious they are kafirs pretending to be Muslims (it was when arab Muslims were confused when fighting with Arab kafirs – no way to tell the difference). Human life is a sensitive matter, so I would exercise caution before spreading a poorly-researched conjecture.
If Allah were to ask me for my opinion personally, I would reply the same. After all, it is in the spirit of shahadat to speak the truth from one’s own point of view.
If there is a murder in my neighborhood, and everyone “knows” it’s the gambler living alone in the street who killed the old woman across his house – and I DID NOT WITNESS this, I would say in the court that I do not know if this man is the murderer and I would not say he is not either. (Though in that case, I’d be highly suspicious that he is, but that’s not admissible in human court – in the court of my heart, I can declare him guilty.)
If they were to ask my opinion of his character, though, I’d say it is likely not a responsible one.
Sheherbano Khan,
very well identified.
These bastard Generals have hijacked Pakistan Army and looks like Zaid Hamid as cashing-in as PR mouth piece.
@ Dr Jawad:
If we have an issue with Allah using the word Rooh as Allah pleases, it is appropriate that the matter is taken up with Allah directly if possible? I am not responsible for Allah, Allah is sufficient for His choice.
All languages, by the way, belong to Allah. To Allah belong the east and the West! (02:115) English is a language under the command of Allah as any other language, for Allah says all things come from and return to Allah. Isn’t that Tawheed? What else is Tawheed?
And I will go to a dictionary or a rock to understand Truth. I will go to China, and I will dig up Earth. I will watch how leaves grow, and how people die. How night comes from day, and life from death (e.g. tree from seed). Because Allah has commanded so in the Qur’an. THAT is the job of Muslim, to investigate. Not shy from the search of Truth. What do we fear? We will find something else? We will AMREEKA behind the machinations of this Universe, or a giant turtle, or a man who’s holding the globe up?
I know that wherever we look, we shall see the Face of Allah. Therefore, I am not afraid to refer to anything.
002.115
YUSUFALI: To Allah belong the East and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of Allah. For Allah is all-Pervading, all-Knowing.
PICKTHAL: Unto Allah belong the East and the West, and whithersoever ye turn, there is Allah’s Countenance. Lo! Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.
Dr. Awab is amongst my friends, which is why I withheld my comments on this blog for a long time until I realized it may be a dis-service to truth. (It took for me to be insired by an Imam Sahib’s lecture on truth to be prompted to comment here.) I believe Dr. Awab’s heart is in the right place, but not his method – esp. with this particular post.
I also hope that if I do something wrong publicly and allow my opinion to prevail, he or another Muslim (or for that matter any human who sees the truth, for Truth is not subject to human will) has the courage to stop me there and then and correct me.
This is the Muslim ethic. Our greatest allegiance is to Allah, not to people.
And the other reason I withheld my comment was that I did not think I could do justice to the subject. But may Allah cover my flaws and whatever the truth may be, it emerges. Aameen.
@ Sheherbano Khan
Great work ! in exposing ‘Dalal-Mr Zaid Zaman’ of ISI and Army
Musharraf has committed crime against humanity to please his western masters.
Dr. Afia has done PHD in Bio-Technology from USA Like wise Dr. Abdul Qadeer studied Nuclear Technology from Holland.
America thinks both these people can be threat to it.
So with the help of Musharraf Dalal they disgraced Abdul Qadeer and banned him and the hero of the nation became prisoner in his own country.
Dr. Afia is also being falsely accused of rubbish stories just to held her in USA.
By the way your Musharraf Begharat was the one , who abducted Dr. Afia from her Karachi Residence and sold her to America for few dollars.
Zaid Hamid is Dalal Of Musharraf:
Shame on u Zaid
@know
i just asked for the refrence of the following phrase which was claimed to be “quran own words”
“Regarding this in my earlier comment:
*Quran’s own words: Allah said, “We put some of our
noor in Adam/ bashar.”
This is the English translation of what Maulana Maudidi
has interpreted in his Urdu Tarjuman-ul-Quran
but you gave the refrence of another verse which was a very well known verse of sura saad(similar matter also described in other places in quran) because of that we distracted again.
lols, i didn’t admire the defence.It was a satirical gesture.
“MISCONSTRUED, SEMANTIC DIFFERENCE,POOR UNDERSTANDING”
Again i shall say that he was convicted by court of law.
and he was sentensed to death.You can not give him the benefit of doubt.we can be wrong,we may have the prejudice
but in courts only concrete evidences leads to capital punishment.
when i say don’t go through dictionaries it means that dictionaries are humanly work while the quran is a word of ALLAH(swt).even eloquent companions(raa) were dependent on rasool ullah to understand the true meanings of quran at many places and you indulged your self in the research on “TRANSLATION”…… ???
yes this is true that all languages belong to ALLAH(SWT) but arabic is the language HE chose to adress the mankind.
therefore one(even arabs) should be very careful when it comes to word of ALLAH(swt)
human life is a sensitve issue but i believe for any true muslim “iman” is more sensitive issue than life.
iman is not a mountain which can not be shaken.iman is like a moon(some time more some time less) for most of the people like me.there fore it is duty of every muslim to strive against any fitna emerging from our neighborhood,street, city and anywhere in country.uprooting of qadiyaniat is a noble example for every pakistani.
“@know
Pls just tell was and is Zaid Hamid associated with cult of Yousaf Kazzab or not?
Only yes or know, we are not gona read your Aen Baen Shaen
@know
also please tell us qadiyani or ahmedis are muslim or not?????
only yes or no
yes,we are not gona read your Aen Baen Shaen
Guys, I request you all.. please close this topic now. We are discussing very sensitive issues here behind screen names.. no one is an expert on these topics but we are just trying to prove something..Guys… Pakistan Army and its agencies may be bad or wrong but they are from ourselves.. we can fight each other and settle but dont insult our country and our dignity on this Internet global village!
its very easy to talk about anything by hiding the indentities but please see the larger picture.
I am sorry for the lecture but you all guys are intelligent.. please use your own common sense.
Many thanks
Guys, I request you all.. please close this topic now. We are discussing very sensitive issues here behind screen names.. no one is an expert on these topics but we are just trying to prove something..Guys… Pakistan Army and its agencies, zaid hamid and all others may be bad or wrong like you are trying to prove… but they all are from ourselves.. things can be settled otherwise but please dont insult our country and our dignity on this Internet global village!
its very easy to talk about anything by hiding the indentities but please see the larger picture.
I am sorry for the lecture but you all guys are intelligent.. please use your own common sense.
Many thanks
Everybody Watch Fall of Caliphate episodes by Zaid Hamid on youtube.
Everybody Also watch Zeitgeist on youtube also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVNN1wqw3k&feature=related
Every Body watch 4man show doing comedy on zaid Zaman.
http://pkpolitics.com/2008/10/28/bolta-pakistan-28-october-2008/
Sorry Previous link was not correct
4 Man Team brings a fresh and hilarious episode of 4 Man Show with Zaid Zaman Hamid
http://pkpolitics.com/2008/10/20/4-man-show-20-october-2008/
“@ Talha
When these ZZ Hamidain have no answer left with them they advise us to not post more on the issue as they are from us. Being taxpayers, Pakistan Army and ISI is our army and we just criticize its newly adopted role of mercenary force of Jews and USA. As for as Zaid Hamid is concerned, we oppose him due to two crimes he has been committing. The first one is his past association with yousaf Kazzab and his efforts to facilitate him to escape from the country to Afghanistan. Unfortunately ZH hasn’t disowned himself from Kazzab’s thought yet. Secondly ZZH is supporting ARMY’S role as US and Jews’ mercenary although he pretends to be barking against JEWs. I hope it is clear now.
@Khanlala
If you are really interested where one stands religiously. why don’t you go investigate Maulana Tahir-ul-Qadri?
Just on the internet for now I guess. And more if you have the means.
“@Arshad Khan
Do you mean Maulana Tahir-ul-Qadri is from Kazzab’s party? Does Dr Qadri talk on phone while offering prayers with Jama’at? Does he ask his followers to marry with girl already in someone else Nikkah? Does he ask his followers to send their wives before suhaaj raat to have with Him (naauzubilah) safar-e-Miraj? Does he tells that Nabi’s “rooh” in him and he is the present day Muhammad (Nauzubillah) Does he say a peer (man) his and others Rabb? What else does he do cause the dirty face of Kazzab is so long and ugly? I hope Dr Qadri possess none of these qualities. and if you think he has investigate that and tell us, we will fight against him the way we have fought against Kazzab and now against his news dirty face Zaid Hamid.
All allegations. Please go investagate Maulana Tahir-ul Qadri.
If you already know him.
Then I think I know where you stand.
Listen to Tahir-ul-Qadri’s Dream (khawab) on youtube.
@khanlala
Here is a link for you. For the Dream watch all 6 episodes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Ecp3KdBV4
It doesn’t work in my office. can you paste here the text of this Khwab? i’ll appreciate if your share with me and other bloggers.
just watch it its 6 parts.
The is very old like from 70’s. There is so much there I don’t think I can put it in words.
He says he saw prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) who came to pakistan. He (pbuh) started to leave because no body was there to be his host except Mr. Tahir Qadri. so tahir Qadri begs to Him (pbup) to stay. Eventually (pbup) agrees and then say i will stay with you for seven days if you pay for it or something like that (NAUZOBILLAH)
JUST WATCH ALL 6 CLIPS ON YOU TUBE WHEN YOU HAVE TIME THEN WE WILL TALK.
MAY ALLAH GUIDE US TO THE RIGHT PATH. AMEEN.
I DONT MEAN TO DIVERT PEOPLE ATTENTION FROM ZAID HAMID.
BUT WE HAVE TO TRY TO SEE A BIG PICTURE. BEFORE ACCUSING PEOPLE OF ANYTHING. AND PROTECT OUR OWN EMAN.
this is no place to discuss tahirul qadri, aamir liaquat or gobar shahi. we have and could have many other blogs on him. this blog and discussion is on zaid kazzab (khalifah of yusuf kazzab) lanatullah alaih.
it was a grave mistake on the part of khatme nabuwwat tehrik and other petitioners against yusuf kazzab that they did not followed the case after his death and his lanati followers were let loose. this time inshallah we will not repeat the same mistake. zaid kazzab and each of his bloody followers (their names and addresses already listed) will be brought to the court of justice and INSHALLAH THEY WILL MEET THE SAME FATE AS THAT OF THE MARDOOD KAZZAB.
@Lone Lone Ranger
We are trying to get to the truth here as you say (or I say). Then we shouldn’t pick and choose what to discuss here.
INSHALLAH ZAID HAMID WILL MEET THE FATE HE DESERVE AND SO WILL WE.
@Arshad
you are here to defend zaid kazzab (lanatullah alaih), not to get to the truth as you claim. Go tell your khalifah we are coming after him.
Even his recent paymasters have decided to dump him!
If he wants to save his bloody ass it would be better for him to challenge the yusuf kazzab case in a superior court and prove that he was wrongly sentenced to death. there is nothing left to argue that he was not associated with that kazzab and is still his khalifah.
@Lone Ranger
You shouldn’t make threats sitting behind a screen with nick like “The Lone Ranger”
@Lone Ranger
Making threats like that doesn’t make sense.
@Lone Ranger
“Behind the screen” that was.
@Arshad
Why do u defend zaid kazzab (lanatullah alaih), Does he pays you OR you are blind OR may be you are ignorant
@Arif
I would like to ask you. Who pays you?
@Arif
I should briefly answer your questions too though they are kind of vague.
Why I defend Zaid “Hamid”?
Because of our Corrupt judicial system. That may have wrongly convited Yousuf Ali.
Does he pay me?
I wish he did especially in Gold.
Am I blind?
No one else is typing for me.
Am I ignorant?
Another vague question? you be the judge of that.
Other than that its been easy so far trying to defend him.
And only Allah is Al-Alim (The All-Knowing, the Omniscient).
Assalamu alaikum. main kehna chahunga ke agar aap log jo zaid hamid par ilzam laga rahe hain wo sacha hai to uske saboot kyoon nahi paish karte lahor ka supreme court koi chand par to nahi kyoon wahan sare saboot lakar samne layen take sacahi sabke samne aye jo cheeze aap log paish kar rahe hain wo koi thos saboot nahi aise to koi bhi print karde akhbar ke main ane wala har article bhi ascha nahi hota mera ye kehna nahi ke aap log jhoote lekin agar ye sach hai to itna waqt kyoon laga rahe hain poori sachai samne kyoon nahi late aur aap logon ko ab kyoon khayal aya jo log Zaid Hamid ko yousuf kazab ka sathi keh rahe hain to zahir hain wo jante honge to itne arse se kyoon chup the ab aik dam kyoon jage hain logo ko poora sach kyoon nahi dikha rahe bar bar yehi kehna ke saboot samne layenge kab???
aur is bat par hairat hai ke jesa article main aur logon ka kehna hai ke Zaid Hamid Yousuf kazab ka sathi hai to itne arse wo koi underground hokar to kam nahi kar raha tha to jab ye hazrat kyoon nahi bole ab kyoon khayal araha hai hairat hai kuch samajh nhai ata kya sach hai kiya jhoot Allah reham kare.
@Arshad
I am self employed, by the Grace of Almighty Allah, so no one pays me like other (spokesmen like Zaid Zaman) are paid by ISI/ Army
Tehreek Nifaz Khatamay Nabawat the same people who declared Mirza ahmed qiyadni has false prophet, filed case against yousaf Kazzab in high court after seeing kazzab video and taking several hundred witnesses into account. The Judge also sentenced Kazzab to death seeing the same evidence. Now you would say Ahmadi was also wrongly convicted because of Corrupt judicial system.
@arshad
abhi tau screen name se hi tumhari hawa kharab ho rahi hai. asal naam bata diya tau peshab nikal jayega!
your associates sohel, shahid, tahir and other followers of zaid kazzab (lanatullah alaih) should know that this time we will not repeat the mistake of tahreek e khatme nabuwwat and other petitioners dr aslam, mohammad ali abubakr and rana akram, etc who had let the followers of yusuf kazzab to get away easily after his death sentence and wasl-i-jahannum. you all just wait and see what happens. understand?
@Talha
Who you are talking to? Do you think these guys who are working on an agenda to create obstruction, confusion and diversion for Zaid Haimd supporters would stop by your mere request? No way buddy.. they wont.
Instead I would request to the supports of Zaid Haimd to stop rebutting to prove your points here. There is no way these pussy cats will come out of their hidden screen names nor they are able to do anything expect barking on blogs!They have already failed miserably to prove anything so there in no point to take this forward!
The best strategy is to ignore these ignorant arrogants and leave them alone to bite themselves. Please no more responses… we are not making anything good out of it.