The Peoples Resistance invites you to. “The Blasphemy Law: An Objective Assessment from Religious, Legal & Social Perspectives”
Date: Saturday 24th October, 2009
Time: 5:30 PM
Location: PMA House, Karachi
Some Speakers include:
Dr. Khalid Zaheer,
Advocate Zain Sheikh
Other notable Human Rights Experts and Minority Group Representatives will speak and attend the Seminar.
Chaired and Moderated by Retd Justice Mr. Rana Bhagwandas.
The Peoples’ Resistance (PR) is a civil society group that advocates and supports the Rule of Law and Constitutionalism in our homeland. We, at the PR, are deeply perturbed by the recent blasphemy related incidents in Gojra and other places where many innocent people were subjected to shameless violence and destruction and would like to sponsor an open and objective dialogue aimed at understanding the Blasphemy Law and its implications for our society. In this context, we are organizing a seminar on Saturday, October 24, 2009, at the PMA House, Karachi at 5:30pm under the title of:
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149 responses to “The Blasphemy Law: An Objective Assessment from Religious, Legal & Social Perspectives”
Dear Dr Awab Sahab,
This Law is more than often is used to settle personal scores. Registration of FIR in this regard should be made more difficult after thorough enquiry by a First Class Magistrate [having knowledge of Islamic Jurisprudence]. For example I have read many expressions in Muslim Sufi Literature that can easily be declared Blasphemous. I can provide quotes from original books. These are called Sufi Utterance (shathiyat) in trance.
I just can't digest one thing … if I blaim a person for murder and lodge a FIR against him … he gets arrested and harresed by our corrupt police … I get away because I have some contacts in high places … that poor guy with limited resources is stuck for life as he don't have much to fill the pockets of corrupt police officers …
if this is all happening, then is it the 'Law' that needs to be blaimed? …
I am not here defending the case against the Blasphemy Law … but just challenging the solution being presented to a problem … the root cause needs to be addresses in order to solve such issues? May be the Law might need some adjustments but Is the Law the root cause?
I had the same questions at the time when Huqooq-e-Niswan Bill was being passed? and today I would like to ask, has any one done some follow up on that as well? did that ammendment in the law have solved the problems or issues faces be women at that time?
And why there is debate only when any law having a religious dimension is misused by the corrupts? Why their isn't such debate when other laws are misused as well?
Enlighten me Please
Dear Awab,
Firstly, you should have chosen another heading instead of “The Blasphemy Law: An Objective Assessment from Religious, Legal & Social Perspectives" I mean the heading like “A propaganda lecture session on brainwashing how to scrap the blasphemy Law” which is very much enacted in the Christian United Kingdom. Why I am saying this? Thanks to Geo at least they comprised two penal to show that that was debate for repealing the Hudood Laws.
How can one assess a law only by studding one point of view and ignoring the one which can be called the point of view of stake holders? If one sees the list of speaker, one is controversial although he posed to be a religious scholar, I mean Khalid Zaheer Sb. The remaining two are known to every one. Don't you have a speaker who may show the audience another side of story? And as for as the intro for People’s Resistance is concerned, it is misleading.
It reads;
“The Peoples’ Resistance (PR) is a civil society group that advocates and supports the Rule of Law and Constitutionalism in our homeland.”
I don’t know whether you are part of it or how many more moderates are parts of this without knowing that whose venture is this? This group is the brain child of Dr Riaz, a well known atheist rather “lone” true communist who couldn't annihilate much in the dead body of NSF and communist political parties with their real names. I had the opportunity to run a campaign against university ordinance with him. He has the potential but the irony with him is that all opportunists who were past’s communist have left him. Setting in the newsroom and occupying high position in media they are busy in getting much from the Media empires. The one service they did to their atheists aims [they have given up their socialist agenda] was to scrap the Hudood Laws.
He is also running a progressive student federation as the National Student Federation proved to be a worst failure. Any debates from the moderates like you and even some liberals is welcomed, however any involvement rather steering by the persons like Dr Riaz Ahmed Sb make the things suspicious.
After the Hudood Laws it is the turn of Blasphemy Law but this time the job seems to be a bit difficult.
@ OJ
It’s difficult to enlighten you. As no one may answer to yours questions.
@ One thing should be clear. As for as I know Dr Awab his sincerity if beyond doubt. And his feelings for the humanity as a whole are commendable.
Dear Awab, Ur commitment with civil rights is beyond any doubt, but I will request u that pls careful about various initiatives.
Couple of days back I recived an e-mail about this program where along with other 4 to 5 groups Pakistan socialist party is also present. It means behind this initiative a whole ideology is working.
To understand this issue kindly read my article from following link
http://kashifiat.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/%db%8c%…
Fact is that this law basically save minorities.
look it in other way!
what if the people start to kill the blasphemers after the law?
the implication of current law is designed in a way that it provides the gauranty of safety and immunity from capital punishment.
how many convictions we have seen after passing this law?
people have already been started saying that Ghamidi @ company is after this blasphemy law. this is an attempt to destroy the islamic identity of pakistan. this msut be stop here by any and all mean neccessary.
why the suicide bombers can't see ghamidi and khalid zaheer?
@djk
You say:
"why the suicide bombers can’t see ghamidi and khalid zaheer?"
What if one says in the same vein:
"Why not the drones target you as a terrorist?"
My question is,"Why should there be any law or any judicial system, for that matter, when the scalawags like djk believe in their own lynch law?"
this is an attempt to destroy the islamic identity of pakistan [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Dr Sahab,
Which Islamic Identity? Pakistan was made by Jinnah and he was a Shia and bitter fact is this that Jinnah appointed a Quadiyani as a First Foreign Minister/Secretary of Pakistan i.e. Sir Zafarullah Chaudhry. By the way Ghamidi was your fvourite Mawdudi's apt pupil and was Director of Tarjumanul Quran – Mawdudi founded that. Dr Khalid Zaheer is also a pupil of Mawdudi's Pupil i.e. Dr Israr Ahmed. Ghamidi and Khalid Zaheer both are inspired by Mawdudi's Companion Mawlana Waheeduddin Khan [One of the Founder of JI in India and later resigend like Israr, Ghamidi, Islahi, Irshad Ahmed Haqqani, and Naeem Siddiqui.
We all know your sentiments about Shias.
The Brouhaha over Blackwater continues Posted by Teeth Maestro September 27, 2009
Comment by dr jawwad khan on September 30, 2009 @ 1:00 am
as you have noticed that i hate shias more than any one else
why the suicide bombers can’t see ghamidi and khalid zaheer [dr jawwad khan]
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Dear Dr Sahab,
You have quite a good collection of Islamic Books on your scribd profile. Try to find any Quranic Verse or Hadith justifying Suicide Attack on anybody what to talk against a Muslim.
what if the people start to kill the blasphemers after the law? [dr jawwad khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
As per Islamic Law, punishment can only be administered by the State and no one has the authority to conduct any punishment and if anybody does that then he will be guilty of committing Hiraba [War against State which is punishable by Death with Extreme Prejudice] Reference: Baloogh ul Ma'aram an Adillat il Ahkam by Ibn Hajr Asqalai [book about Islamic Law] and Dururl Beh by Imam Shawkani [Book about Islamic Law. Do read Bukhari and Muslim's Chapter related with Governance and Authroity and Responsibility of Ruler and State.
Ghamidi @ company is after this blasphemy law. this is an attempt to destroy the islamic identity of pakistan. [dr jawwad khan]
Comment by dr jawwad khan on September 30, 2009 @ 1:00 am
as you have noticed that i hate shias more than any one else [dr jawwad khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
You are talking about blasphemy law but what about blasphemic comment of Mawdudi and his brother Khomeini against Prophets [PBUT] and Companions [May Allah be pleased with everyone of them] of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]
Read book mentioned below as to what kind of Filthy Language Mawlana Mawdudi and his brother Khomeini used against Prophets [PBUT] and against the Companions [May Allah be pleased with everyone of them] of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]. The book has provided the original quotes from Mawdudi’s book with the editions and page number.
Mudodi Khumeni do bhai, Moudoodi and Khumeni(shia) two Brothers
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15702018/Mudodi-Khumeni…
Which Islamic Identity?
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no matter how much one denies.no matter how one try to confuse by attributing lies to Quaid e azam about ideology of pakistan.no matter how much one try to blurr the movement of pakistan.And no matter how we deviate from the ideology of pakistan by corruption,by neglecting islam, by following foreign instruction or by promoting the liars and cheats like javed ghamidi and khalid zaheer….
the FACT is that we are living in ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN. where no law could be passed against the islam(till appearance of javed ghamidi, who have marvelous capability of destroying islamic ideology and its objective through lies,perjuries and wrong interpretations)
we still live in ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN.
islam and its ideology is in its genesis its past and most probably in future.
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"Try to find any Quranic Verse or Hadith justifying Suicide Attack on anybody what to talk against a Muslim"
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against muslim? NO PROBLEM….
against islam + by javed ghamidi = fitna
and fitna is much horrible than the murder.
BTW there is also one folder in my scribd account related with javed ghamidi kindly read those books.it sgall help you realize that how biggest fitna javed ghamidi is.
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“Why not the drones target you as a terrorist?”
most welcome! it will be an honor.it will prove that i am not on the side of diabolical side.
it will be a short cut to jannah.
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"My question is,”Why should there be any law or any judicial system, for that matter, when the scalawags like djk believe in their own lynch law?”
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that is exactly what i was trying to say.
there is a law against blasphemy.which is under attack by the gentlemen like you, ghamidi and others.and conspiracies are being woven around it.
my question was simple what if tomorrow this law is abrogated then???? who will deal the matters of blasphemy?
state will be tolerant and people begin to take this matter in their own hands.then what? will you pass a law to protect the rights of blasphemer?
this law actually protects the blasphemer but on the other hand it keeps the islamic identity intact,which is unacceptable for you and ghamidi.
you going to solve one problem and creat much bigger problem.
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"blasphemic comment of Mawdudi and his brother Khomeini against Prophets [PBUT] and Companions [May Allah be pleased with everyone of them] of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]"
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enough with this crap.on one side you hate deobandis so much that your gentle behaviour is overrided by filthy language whenever you talk about eminent deobandi scholars, on the other hand you waste no opprtunity to quote them against molana syed abul aala modudi…
i tell you what!!!
build your own case. read the books of molana modudi and underline the pharases of blasphemy.then note the book name and page number beneath those refrences and show the world.
prove that molana syed abul ala modudi did blasphemy.
the reputation of molana modudi can't be tornished by cheap and disgusting propaganda.
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I am not against the death penalty for Blasphemy Law but I am against the misuse and procedure of the Law which has always targeted weaker section of society to settle personal scores and in many cases this Blasphemy Law is even used against Sunni Imams of Mosques due to different interpretation of Fiqh and one Sunni Imam in Punjab was lynched on False Allegation.
“Try to find any Quranic Verse or Hadith justifying Suicide
we still live in ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN. islam and its ideology is in its genesis its past and most probably in future. [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dr Sahab,
When did Pakistan become Islamic Republic, please give us the date and under whose govt. Pakistan became Islamic Republic.
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Attack on anybody what to talk against a Muslim”
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against muslim? NO PROBLEM…. [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dr Sahab,
There are verses of Jihad in Quran and Hadiths in Hadith books against Infidels but tell me where is the Order of Suicide Attack against anybody what to talk of Muslims.
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and fitna is much horrible than the murder.[Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Dr Sahab,
Please provide the complete Quranic verse with background which you have quoted above against Ghamidi.
I have read many books against Ghamidi, one of the refutation was written by Dr Israr's Pupil. Ghamidi has a slight different interpretation of Hadith but if you condemn Ghamidi and Khalid Zaheer for that then go and read Usool-e-Shahsi a book of Hanafi Fiqh and read as to how Imam Abu Hanifa [May Allah have mercy on his soul] and other Hanafi jurists interpret Hadith.
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enough with this crap.on one side you hate deobandis so much that your gentle behaviour is overrided by filthy language whenever you talk about eminent deobandi scholars, on the other hand you waste no opprtunity to quote them against molana syed abul aala modudi…[Dr Jawwad Khan]
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I wonder if you have even read the Deobandi and Barelvi Literature against each other and [read Dhamaka and Zalzala, yes these are actual books written by these Mullahs on each opthers Takfir (Declaring Apostate)].
I don't have to prepare a case against Mawdudi, the case is already prepared by Mawdudi himself and you favourite Mullahs as well:
There is book written “Khilafat wa Malookiyat Ki Tareekhi Aur Shariee Haisiyat [Authenticity and Relity of Caliphat and Kingdom by Mawdudui] by Hafiz Salahuddin Yousuf [Editor of Weekly Eitisaam, Lahore Pakistan , he is a Salafi Scholar and if you get that book then please note that in preface following Deobandi and even Barelvi Scholar praised the above book on the refutation ofr Mawdudi's Deviant and Blasphemic Beliefs regarding the Companions of Prophet Mohammad. You have already praised Deobandi Mullahs in one of your mail and following Mullahs [not ordinary Jahil Taliban] praised the book:
1 – Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani [Deobandi]
2 – Justice Taqi Usmani [Deobandi]
3 – Maulana Ziauddin Islahi [Daar ul Musanifeen Azam Garh India]
4 – Maulana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi [Binnori Town – Deobandi]
5 – Maulana Ghulamullah Khan [Rawalpindi – Deobandi]
6 – Dr Israr Ahmed [Former Deputy of Mawdudi]
7 – Maulana Amee Ahsan Islahi [Former number 2 of Mawdudi]
8 – Agha Shoorish Kashmiri [Noted Scholar and Journalist]
9 – Maulana Manzoor Naimani [One of the founder of Jamat-e-Islami and Deobandi scholar and also refuted Mawdudi in his book on Islamic Revolution of Iran]
10 – Safi ur Rahman Mubarakpuri [Author of Prophet Mohammad – PBUH's biography Ar Raheeq Al Makhtoom and he is an Indian Scholar and a Salafi]
11 – Yousuf Saleem Chishti [Deobandi Sufi Scholar]
12 – Maulana Abul Hasan Nadvi [Former Head of Darul Ulomm Deoband and Member Board of Medina University Saudi Arabia]
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
These are not some Deobandi Ulema:
1 – Maulana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi – Binnori Town refuted Mawdudi.
2 – Mawlana Yousuf Binnori – Founder of Binnori Town refuted Mawdudi
3 – Mawlana Abdul Majid Daryabadi pupil of Ashraf Ali Thanwi refuted Mawdudi.
Ghamidi @ company is after this blasphemy law. this is an attempt to destroy the islamic identity of pakistan. what if the people start to kill the blasphemers after the law? [dr jawwad khan]
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I am not against the death penalty for Blasphemy Law but I am against the misuse.
Example:
Imam lynched by mob for ‘blasphemy’ By Majeed Gill
Daily Dawn Dated June 16, 2006 Friday Jumadi-ul-Awwal 19, 1427
BAHAWALPUR, June 15: A mosque Imam was killed while a religious leader sustained critical injuries in violence caused reportedly by sectarian tension between two Sunni sects in Choonawala Mandi near Hasilpur, about 90km from here, on Thursday. According to reports reaching here, the trouble started when Hafiz Qamar Javed, prayer leader at local Masjid Ahl-e-Hadith, burnt some trash near his mosque. The fire attracted neighbours, including people from the rival sect, who propagated that Javed was burning pages from Quran. Within no time a huge mob turned up at the scene and attacked Javed. When Ahl-e-Hadith’s local leader Master Muhammad Sadiq came to his rescue, he was also beaten up severely. The assailants left the scene when the two fell unconscious.
Police rushed to the scene after getting information. In a hurry, a police vehicle hit and injured Muhammad Nadeem (13). The mob then damaged the van and thrashed ASI Muhammad Nawaz, who also sustained injuries. Later, the Hasilpur DSP and tehsil nazim reached Choonawala and managed to disperse the mob. The injured were rushed to the Bahawal Victoria Hospital, Bahawalpur, where Hafiz Qamar Javed succumbed to injuries while Master Muhammad Sadiq was in precarious condition.
Following an appeal, Choonawala traders’ president, shopkeepers pulled down their shutters to protest the ‘blasphemous act’. Meanwhile, it was learnt that a case under the Blasphemy Act had been registered against deceased Hafiz Qamar Javed and injured Muhammad Sadiq while no case was registered against the assailants. DPO Arif Nawaz was not available for comments.
this is an attempt to destroy the islamic identity of pakistan [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Keep in mind the following verse by going through the post below:
إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَلِكَ لِمَن يَشَاء وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللّهِ فَقَدِ افْتَرَى إِثْمًا عَظِيمًا
Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin. [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 – Verse 48]
Is this the Islamic Identity of Pakistan you are trying to protect?
Makkah to Data Darbar Lahore [Sufi Shrine in Pakistan]
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/makkah-t…
i do not know about you but i feel relaxed when i think of current judiciary. now i know that in judiciary there people who can question the govt and law enforcement agencies. [dr jawwad khan on October 3, 2009 @ 2:23 pm] – Video on Human Rights Abuses by Pakistan Army leads to Censorship
Posted by Teeth MaestroOctober 3, 2009
Ghamidi @ company is after this blasphemy law. this is an attempt to destroy the islamic identity of pakistan. this msut be stop here by any and all mean neccessary. why the suicide bombers can’t see ghamidi and khalid zaheer? [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
If you would note the thread above also carry the name of Former CJ of Pakistan Rana Bhagwandas.
Also read this:
Girl’s flogging not true picture of Islam, says LHC judge By Our Reporter Sunday, 12 Apr, 2009 05:08 AM PST
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-…
i do not know about you but i feel relaxed when i think of current judiciary. now i know that in judiciary there people who can question the govt and law enforcement agencies. [dr jawwad khan on October 3, 2009 @ 2:23 pm] – Video on Human Rights Abuses by Pakistan Army leads to Censorship
Posted by Teeth MaestroOctober 3, 2009
Ghamidi @ company is after this blasphemy law. this is an attempt to destroy the islamic identity of pakistan. this msut be stop here by any and all mean neccessary. why the suicide bombers can’t see ghamidi and khalid zaheer? [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
The author of the following article is CJ Baluchistan High Court Qazi Faez Isa [son of Qazi Esa, the right hand man of Jinnah in Baluchistan]
I hope you would agree with your favourite Judiciary's Favourite Judge.
1- NEED TO CHECK MISUSE OF BLASPHEMY LAW BY QAZI FAEZ ISA
"As it was the unanimous demand of the Ulema, Mashaikh and the people, therefore, I have decided to do away with the procedural change in registration of FIR under the blasphemy law" (General Musharraf, Dawn 17.5.2000).
How was public opinion determined? No one asked me! Is the reference to ulema and mashaikh to the self-proclaimed ones or men and women of Islamic learning? And did populism prevail over Islam? Why was no attempt made to enter into a debate, or at least a learned Islamic discourse? What was the role of the two ministers (religious affairs and law) who are primarily concerned with this issue? One does not recollect any valuable contribution from these two sources.
Read the details:
Heresy, Apostasy & Misuse of Blasphemy Law – 5
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/heresy-a…
"Please provide the complete Quranic verse with background which you have quoted above against Ghamidi"
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first of all i just expressed my anger on the services of mr.javed ghamidi,offering to DE-ISLAMIZE the islam.
its an expression of anger not the religious fatwa(i am no position to issue a fatwa) like we use to curse some one in daily life.why???
because we are watching Mr.javed ghamidi on tv. redefining and interpreting islam in a unprecedented way. many things which are considered as haram or unethical in islam are now interpretated in a new way by these scholars like music, hijab, jihad etc etc. according to dr.israr ahmed these scholars have the ability to deislamize the islam. many believe that this phenomenon is not a coincidence rather a planned strategy..
this is true if you see the promotion of these scholars on many tv channels in the light of the research paper of cheryl benard, a research analyst in national security research division of notorious RAND corporation.
cheryl benard is a jew wife of special us envoy zalmay khalil zad. in her research paper named "CIVIL DEMOCRATIC ISLAM-partner resources and strategies" she categorise the muslims into 4 elements. 1) traditionalists 2) fundamentalists 3) progressive religious and 4) liberal secular. and developed the strategy for handling the after effects of war on terror.
the big picture can only be seen by reading this research paper. which is the proof that javed ghamdi and others in pakistani society are not appeared randomly to correct the disorders in ummah rather they are sent by representives of the global elites for softening the hard core islam.
kindly read the paper of cheryl benard:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1716…
“Please provide the complete Quranic verse with background which you have quoted above against Ghamidi”
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"They ask you concerning fighting in the Sacred Months (i.e. 1st, 7th, 11th and 12th months of the Islamic calendar). Say "Fighting therein is a great (transgression) but a greater (transgression) with Allah is to prevent mankind from following the Way of Allah, to disbelieve in Him, to prevent access to Al-Masjid-Al-Haram (at Makkah), and to drive out its inhabitants, and Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion (Islamic Monotheism) if they can. And whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever."
(sura Al-baqarah -217)
Abu Al-Aliyah, Mujahid, Said bin Jubayr, Ikrimah,Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi bin Anas said that what Allah said [translation of the meaning]:
"Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''
"…..and Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion (Islamic Monotheism…."
(sura Albaqarah-217)
hafiz ibn e kathir commented on these verse that "even this war is fought in the sacred months,your wrongdoing and mischeavousness is far worse than fighting in sacred months.and your affliction is that you try to divert muslims from Allah's religion"
"misuse and procedure of the Law which has always targeted weaker section of society to settle personal scores and in many cases this Blasphemy Law is even used against Sunni Imams of Mosques due to different interpretation of Fiqh and one Sunni Imam in Punjab was lynched on False Allegation"
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how it was misused? did they complain in a police station and the police arrested the alleged guy and presented in front of court and court wrongly convicted that alleged person?
what if i kill some one saying that the guy is terrorist.
would you turn against the laws against terrorism.
what kind of thinking is this?
cheryl benard is a jew wife of special us envoy zalmay khalil zad. [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Zalmay Khalilzad had ALSO been a go between Taliban and USA Advisor for Oil Pipeline.
Unocal Advisor Named
Representative to Afghanistan by Patrick Martin
Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), globalresearch.ca, 29 January 2002
As an advisor for Unocal, Khalilzad drew up a risk analysis of a proposed gas pipeline from the former Soviet republic of Turkmenistan across Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Indian Ocean. He participated in talks between the oil company and Taliban officials in 1997, which were aimed at implementing a 1995 agreement to build the pipeline across western Afghanistan.
Unocal was the lead company in the formation of the Centgas consortium, whose purpose was to bring to market natural gas from the Dauletabad Field in southeastern Turkmenistan, one of the world's largest. The $2 billion project involved a 48-inch diameter pipeline from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border, passing near the cities of Herat and Kandahar, crossing into Pakistan near Quetta and linking with existing pipelines at Multan. An additional $600 million extension to India was also under consideration.
Khalilzad also lobbied publicly for a more sympathetic US government policy towards the Taliban. Four years ago, in an op-ed article in the Washington Post, he defended the Taliban regime against accusations that it was a sponsor of terrorism, writing, ''The Taliban does not practice the anti-U.S. style of fundamentalism practiced by Iran.''
Ghamidi has a slight different interpretation of Hadith but if you condemn Ghamidi and Khalid Zaheer for that then go and read Usool-e-Shahsi a book of Hanafi Fiqh and read as to how Imam Abu Hanifa [May Allah have mercy on his soul] and other Hanafi jurists interpret Hadith.
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it means that either you have no idea where javed ghamidi is taking the pakistani muslim "OR"
inspite of a wahabi back ground you are one of the "ISLAM ALLERGIC-PSEUDO MUSLIM MODERATE"
I don’t have to prepare a case against Mawdudi, the case is already prepared by Mawdudi himself and you favourite Mullahs as well.
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and you are propagating that filth without any investigation and research…. 🙁
it means that either you have no idea where javed ghamidi is taking the pakistani muslim “OR” inspite of a wahabi back ground you are one of the “ISLAM ALLERGIC-PSEUDO MUSLIM MODERATE” [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
These name tags e.g. Wahabi, Deobandi, Barelvi, Ahle-Hadiths and Shias are negation of Islam, I am just a Muslim [ordinary, mortal, sinner, and full of faults]. I am not at all a pious Mulsim like you but despite all that I am a Muslim and I hate linking any name tags like Moderate Muslim or tags like above because in Quran Allah says…
True Muslims should be content with the name "Muslims given to them by Almighty Allah as He says:
وَجَاهِدُوا فِي اللَّهِ حَقَّ جِهَادِهِ هُوَ اجْتَبَاكُمْ وَمَا جَعَلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ مِنْ حَرَجٍ مِّلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمينَ مِن قَبْلُ وَفِي هَذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاء عَلَى النَّاسِ فَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَاعْتَصِمُوا بِاللَّهِ هُوَ مَوْلَاكُمْ فَنِعْمَ الْمَوْلَى وَنِعْمَ النَّصِيرُ
And strive for Allah with the endeavour which is His right. He hath chosen you and hath not laid upon you in religion any hardship; the faith of your father Abraham (is yours). He hath named you Muslims of old time and in this (Scripture), that the messenger may be a witness against you, and that ye may be witnesses against mankind. So establish worship, pay the poor-due, and hold fast to Allah. He is your Protecting friend. A blessed Patron and a blessed Helper! [AL-HAJJ (THE PILGRIMAGE) Chapter 22 – Verse 78]
and you are propagating that filth without any investigation and research…. :[Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Sir,
I have just quoted Mullahs on Mullah because when they are not united on the interpretation of Islam then how can they unite so-called Muslim Ummah. I have read the original references in Mawdudi and Khomeini books and this e-book above confirms all the allegation.
By the way how come the Quranic Verse from Suraah al Baqara is appropriate for Ghamidi and Khalid Zahir because they are not polytheiosts nor they stop anybody from going to pilgrimage.
inspite of a wahabi back ground you are one of the “ISLAM ALLERGIC-PSEUDO MUSLIM MODERATE” [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I am sure you know as to how Quran and Hadith see Sectarianism and Mullahs of every sect use these very verses and hadiths to declare each other Apostate [Murtid and Kaafir], unless and until these Mullahs are united forget about Muslim Ummah.
إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِندَ اللَّهِ الإِسْلَـمُ
English Translation:
The Religion before Allah is Islam [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 – Verse 19]
وَاعْتَصِمُواْ بِحَبْلِ اللَّهِ جَمِيعاً وَلاَ تَفَرَّقُواْ
English Translation:
And hold fast, all of you together, to the cable of Allah, and do not separate. [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 – Verse 103]
وَلاَ تَكُونُواْ كَالَّذِينَ تَفَرَّقُواْ وَاخْتَلَفُواْ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَهُمُ الْبَيِّنَـتُ وَأُوْلَـئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ
English Translation:
And be ye not as those who separated and disputed after the clear proofs had come unto them. For such there is an awful doom, [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 – Verse 105]
وَأَطِيعُواْ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَلاَ تَنَـزَعُواْ فَتَفْشَلُواْ وَتَذْهَبَ رِيحُكُمْ وَاصْبِرُواْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الصَّـبِرِينَ
English Translation:
And obey Allah and His messenger, and dispute not one with another lest ye falter and your strength depart from you; but be steadfast! Lo! Allah is with the steadfast. [AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY) Chapter 8 – Verse 46]
وَلَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ فِى شِيَعِ الاٌّوَّلِينَ – وَمَا يَأْتِيهِم مِّن رَّسُولٍ إِلاَّ كَانُواْ بِهِ يَسْتَهْزِئُونَ
English Translation:
We verily sent (messengers) before thee among the factions of the men of old. And never came there unto them a messenger but they did mock him. [AL-HIJR (AL-HIJR, STONELAND, ROCK CITY) Chapter 15 – Verse 10 and 11]
قُلْ هُوَ الْقَادِرُ عَلَى أَن يَبْعَثَ عَلَيْكُمْ عَذَاباً مِّن فَوْقِكُمْ أَوْ مِن تَحْتِ أَرْجُلِكُمْ أَوْ يَلْبِسَكُمْ شِيَعاً وَيُذِيقَ بَعْضَكُمْ بَأْسَ بَعْضٍ انْظُرْ كَيْفَ نُصَرِّفُ الاٌّيَـتِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَفْقَهُونَ
English Translation:
Say: He is able to send punishment upon you from above you or from beneath your feet, or to bewilder you with dissension and make you taste the tyranny one of another. See how We display the revelations so that they may understand. [AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6 Verse 65]
إِنَّ فِرْعَوْنَ عَلاَ فِى الاٌّرْضِ
َجَعَلَ أَهْلَهَا شِيَعاً
English Translation:
Lo! Pharaoh exalted himself in the earth and made its people castes. [AL-QASAS (THE STORY, STORIES) Chapter 28 – Verse 4]
مُنِيبِينَ إِلَيْهِ وَاتَّقُوهُ وَأَقِيمُواْ الصَّلوةَ وَلاَ تَكُونُواْ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ – مِنَ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُواْ دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُواْ شِيَعاً كُلُّ حِزْبٍ بِمَا لَدَيْهِمْ فَرِحُونَ
English Translation:
Turning unto Him (only); and be careful of your duty unto Him and establish worship, and be not of those who ascribe partners (unto Him); Of those who split up their religion and became schismatics, each sect exulting in its tenets. [AL-ROOM (THE ROMANS, THE BYZANTINES) Chapter 30 – Verse 31 and 32]
إِنَّ الَّذِينَ فَرَّقُواْ دِينَهُمْ وَكَانُواْ شِيَعًا لَّسْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِى شَىْءٍ إِنَّمَآ أَمْرُهُمْ إِلَى اللَّهِ ثُمَّ يُنَبِّئُهُم بِمَا كَانُواْ يَفْعَلُونَ
English Translation:
Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them. Their case will go to Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do. [AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6 – Verse 159]
'A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) went out one norning wearing a striped cloak of the black camel's hair that there came Hasan b. 'Ali. He wrapped hitn under it, then came Husain and he wrapped him under it along with the other one (Hasan). Then came Fatima and he took her under it, then came 'Ali and he also took him under it and then said: Allah only desires to take away any uncleanliness from you, O people of the household, and purify you (thorough purifying) [Sahih Muslim]
Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] said, upon him blessings and peace: I have left among you two matters by holding fast to which, you shall never be misguided: the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet. [Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Tamhid, Ibn Nasr al-Marwazi in al-Sunna, al-Hakim in his Mustadrak, al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra, Malik in his Muwatta, al-Daraqutni in his Sunan, Ibn Hazm in al-Ihkam, al-Suyuti declared it hasan in al-Jami` al-Saghir, al-Suyuti in Miftah al-Janna]
Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] said : "Indeed those from before you from the People of the Book divided into seventy-two groups. And, indeed, this group (Muslims) will divide into seventy-three. Seventy-two groups will be in the Hellfire and one of them will be in Paradise. And it is the Jamaa'ah (group)." [Musnad Ahmed Bin Hanbal]
The Messenger of Allaah said: "I counsel you to have Taqwaa of Allaah and to hear and obey, even if an Abyssinian slave were to command you. For, verily, whoever amongst you lives (to grown old), he will see many differences. So stick to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided khaleefahs. Cling tightly onto it and hold onto it with your molar teeth. And beware of newly invented matters. For, indeed, every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is a thing that leads astray, and everything that leads astray is in the Hellfire." [Abu Dawood]
And in another narration, he said: "Everyone of them in the Hellfire, except for one group that which I and my companions are upon." [Sunan At-Tirmidhee]
Ibn Mas'ood said: "The Messenger of Allaah drew a line for us and then said: 'This is the Straight Path of Allaah.' And he drew lines on the left and right of it, and then said: 'These are paths of which there is not one except that there is a devil upon it calling towards it.' Then he recited the statements of Allaah [And (He commandeth you, saying): This is My Straight path, so follow it. Follow no other ways, lest ye be parted from his way. This hath He ordained for you, that ye may ward off evil [Surat-ul-Ana' aam 6:153- The Cattle 1:153]. 'And verily, this is My Straight Path, so follow it, and do not follow (other) paths for they will separate you away from His path." [Musnad Ahmad and An-Nasaa'ee].
"I left upon you two things of which you will never go astray after them: The Book of Allaah and my Sunnah. They will never be separated until they return to me at the Haud (the Pond)." [Saheeh Al-Jaami']
The Saved Sects revives the Sunnah of the Messenger in their act of worship, behavior and lifestyles. And due to this, they become strangers among their own people, as the Prophet has informed us would happen with his words: "Indeed Islam began as something strange and it will return to being strange as it began. So Toobaa is for the strangers." And in one narration, he said: "So Toobaa is for the strangers those who correct others when the people have become corrupt." [Muslim]
"There will not cease to be a group from my ummah, dominant upon the truth. The ones who abandon them will not be able to harm them, until the decree of Allaah comes." [Muslim]
The Messenger of Allaah said: "There will not cease to be a group from my ummah dominant upon the truth. Those who abandon them will not be able to harm them until the Decree of Allah comes." [Muslim]
To justify this Sectarian Divide Mullah often exploit this "Waahi [Concocted]" Saying:
"QUOTE"
Ikhtilaf Rai to Hamaray Deen Ka Hissa Hey"
"UNQUOTE"
Translation: Difference of Opinion is an essential part of Islam Yaani "Ikhtalaf-e-Ummat Bais-e-Rehmat Hai"
Ahl ul Bidah [Innovators – Bida'ati] quote this statement as a hadith, but it is not mentioned in the six authentic collections of Hadith and its chain of narrators is also not known. There are various versions of this statement. In some versions it is mentioned, "The difference of opinions among my Companions is a mercy for you." Or "The difference of opinions of my Companions is a mercy for my Ummah." Many scholars of Hadith consider all these versions as weak or da'if as far as their narration is concerned. "The saying "Difference of opinion in my Community is a mercy" is the most perverse saying possible, because if difference were mercy, agreement would be anger, and it is impossible for a Muslim to say this, because there can only be either agreement, or difference, and there can only be either mercy, or anger."
أَفَلاَ يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِندِ غَيْرِ اللّهِ لَوَجَدُواْ فِيهِ اخْتِلاَفًا كَثِيرًا
[AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 – Verse 82]
Afala yatadabbaroona alqurana walaw kana min AAindi ghayri Allahilawajadoo feehi ikhtilafan katheeran
Interpretation of the meaning:
Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity. [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 – Verse 82]
@Dr Jawwad Khan
@Teeth Maestro
I would request the admin to count comments. I think Amir Mughal has become the highest scorer. Please check as he has nothing to do, after being fired from job, he just repeats the same mantra. Jawwad Sb please leave this guy alone.
@Amir Mughal,
You’re a "good" researcher so just check what has happened to the woman after the woman protection bill has been passed? All clauses of the Pakistan penal code are misused, just scrap out the whole law structure, abandon the courts and ask the common to decide his cases by his own?
Answer these questions and please deviate from the topic and be precise as no one is full time free like you to read the lengthy comments.
Answer these questions and please deviate from the topic and be precise as no one is full time free like you to read the lengthy comments. [Talkhaba]
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Dear Sir,
I am very much precise and commenting as per the topic i.e.
[The Blasphemy Law: An Objective Assessment from Religious, Legal & Social Perspectives Posted by Teeth Maestro October 20, 2009], topic is not the women or Adultery Law.
javed ghamidi and his student khalid zaheer are the biggest fitna in the islamic history.
they have intelligent mind, brilliant thinking capability and indepth knowledge of islam…and they are using against it.
1) they use two most prominent tricks in confusing their audiance…they are masters in taking a verse from Quran and imply those verses out of context on place where they see fit(enjoying the ignorance of the audiance,like myself)
2) they completely ignore the hadith saying that this matter is not mentioned in Quran and "hadith can be wrongly narrated and misinterpretated" like we see in the issues of hijab, music and punishment of apostate.
but when it comes to islamic state and islamic system they feel no hasitation quoting "aathar" .again taking advantage of ignorance of common man like me.
# mark my word ….these guys if not atopped and exposed will change the muslim society in just few years.
@amir mughal!!!
how does an "Aehl e hadith" feel when some one says that Quran is enough for us because hadith(including ahadith of sehah e sitta) are not be reliable in deciding the "NASOOS"?
ITS A WHOLE NEW WORLD….ISN'T IT?
@amir mughal!!! – how does an “Aehl e hadith” feel when some one says that Quran is enough for us because hadith(including ahadith of sehah e sitta) are not be reliable in deciding the “NASOOS”? ITS A WHOLE NEW WORLD….ISN’T IT? [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I have tried to reject Hadith Rejectors on my blog as per my poor knowledge. I wonder if you know that your favourite Mawdudi and Ghulam Ahmed Perwaiz enjoy the similar ideology regarding Hadiths mean they used to judge Hadith as per their Wisdom [Aqal per Parakhna]. Since you have suddenly become fan of Ahl-e-Hadith therefore please read Hujjiyat-e-Hadith by Late. Mawlana Mohammad Ismail on Hadith Rejectors and two chapters are dedicated to Deviant Mawdudi and Deviant Parwaiz Hadith Rejection. {Since you are also fan of Deobandi Maulwis read another book on Mawdudi's Deviant Ideology i.e. Meri Rafaqat ki Sargazisht, Mawlana Mawdudi kay saath meray Shab o Roz by Late. Maulana Manzoor Naumani, and another Book on those who reject Hadith is Aiyna-e-Perwaizyiat by Abdul Rehman Kailani (Mawdudi's ideology has thoroughly been discussed].
mark my word ….these guys if not atopped and exposed will change the muslim society in just few years. [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
As per your own comment:
i do not know about you but i feel relaxed when i think of current judiciary. now i know that in judiciary there people who can question the govt and law enforcement agencies. [dr jawwad khan on October 3, 2009 @ 2:23 pm] – Video on Human Rights Abuses by Pakistan Army leads to Censorship
Posted by Teeth Maestro October 3, 2009]
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Judiciary is Free, please dont hesitate take them to the Shariah Court and ask death penalty for them. Judiciary is now Free.
@amir mughal!!!how does an “Aehl e hadith” feel when some one says that Quran is enough for us because hadith(including ahadith of sehah e sitta) are not be reliable in deciding the “NASOOS”? ITS A WHOLE NEW WORLD….ISN’T IT? [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Mawdudi had rejected Hadith [Authentic] of Dajjal [The Anti Christ], I have given enough references above, go through the books and find it yourself.
"Mawdudi had rejected Hadith [Authentic] of Dajjal [The Anti Christ], I have given enough references above, go through the books and find it yourself"
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Molana syed abul ala modudi on dajjal issue.
kindly read from page 37-40.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13989010/Rasayl-wa-Masa…
# mark my word ….these guys if not atopped and exposed will change the muslim society in just few years. [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Don't worry just keep reciting the following verses for guidance because due to recitation of these Verse Allah will never allow our Inner Self or lower self [Nafs] and Satan to misguide us. [Allah Willing]
آمَنَ الرَّسُولُ بِمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مِن رَّبِّهِ وَالْمُؤْمِنُونَ كُلٌّ آمَنَ بِاللّهِ وَمَلآئِكَتِهِ وَكُتُبِهِ وَرُسُلِهِ لاَ نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِّن رُّسُلِهِ وَقَالُواْ سَمِعْنَا وَأَطَعْنَا غُفْرَانَكَ رَبَّنَا وَإِلَيْكَ الْمَصِيرُ
لاَ يُكَلِّفُ اللّهُ نَفْسًا إِلاَّ وُسْعَهَا لَهَا مَا كَسَبَتْ وَعَلَيْهَا مَا اكْتَسَبَتْ رَبَّنَا لاَ تُؤَاخِذْنَا إِن نَّسِينَا أَوْ أَخْطَأْنَا رَبَّنَا وَلاَ تَحْمِلْ عَلَيْنَا إِصْرًا كَمَا حَمَلْتَهُ عَلَى الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِنَا رَبَّنَا وَلاَ تُحَمِّلْنَا مَا لاَ طَاقَةَ لَنَا بِهِ وَاعْفُ عَنَّا وَاغْفِرْ لَنَا وَارْحَمْنَآ أَنتَ مَوْلاَنَا فَانصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ
The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers – We make no distinction between any of His messengers – and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it (is only) that which it hath earned, and against it (only) that which it hath deserved. Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. [AL-BAQARA (THE COW)Chapter 2 – Verse 285 and 286]
رَبَّنَا لاَ تُزِغْ قُلُوبَنَا بَعْدَ إِذْ هَدَيْتَنَا وَهَبْ لَنَا مِن لَّدُنكَ رَحْمَةً إِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْوَهَّابُ
رَبَّنَا إِنَّكَ جَامِعُ النَّاسِ لِيَوْمٍ لاَّ رَيْبَ فِيهِ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يُخْلِفُ الْمِيعَادَ
Our Lord! Cause not our hearts to stray after Thou hast guided us, and bestow upon us mercy from Thy Presence. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Bestower. Our Lord! Lo! it is Thou Who gatherest mankind together to a Day of which there is no doubt. Lo! Allah faileth not to keep the tryst. [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN)Chapter 3 Verse 8 and 9]
Molana syed abul ala modudi on dajjal issue. kindly read from page 37-40.[Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I have read the edition which was published during Mawdudi's Life and when people started raising objection they change the text without mending the deviant belief or apology of Mawdudi. Even the link you have provided is basically an argument of Mawdudi for justifying his deviant beliefs on Dajjal [Mawdudi denied Authentic Hadith]. Instead of taking Dajjal's Hadith the way these Hadiths Mawdudi preferred to open his mouth for deviant explanations.
Your favourite Deobandi, and Ahl-e-Hadith Mullahs have thoroughly discussed Mawdudi's unjust and deviant criticism on Hadith by giving Original References of Mawdudi'd work not through a book which is re-published in 2002 with tempering.
DEVIATION OF JAVED GHAMIDI
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I just like to give one example of deviation from the true islam.javed ghamdi wrotes that:
"There is no doubt whatsoever that this death penalty was prescribed only for the ummiyyin who lived during the Prophethood of Mohammad (sws), be they the idolaters or others like Waraqah Ibn Nawfal, a cousin of the Prophet's wife, Khadijah (raa), who was originally among the ummiyyin and had later accepted Judaism or Christianity. It is absolutely evident that now if a Muslim becomes an apostate and is also not a source of nuisance for an Islamic State, he cannot be administered any punishment merely on the basis of apostasy"(mizan)
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and what is the islamic perspective regarding the punishment of apostate? for the sake of brevity i just Quote the ahadith e mubarika of Sahih bukhari and ignore the view and acts of rightly guided caliphs and leading jurists of all school.
Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
(sahih bukhari – 83:17)
Narrated Ikrima: Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
(sahih bukhari – 52:260)
Narrated 'Ikrima: Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
(sahih bukhari – 84 :57)
Narrated Abu Musa: A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle
(sahih bukhari -89 : 271)
it is just a glimpse of the deviation of a ghamidi.nowadays i am compiling all the evidence from Quran and sunnah against his efforts to deviate the muslim ummah from true islam.
DEVIATION OF JAVED GHAMIDI – it is just a glimpse of the deviation of a ghamidi.nowadays i am compiling all the evidence from Quran and sunnah against his efforts to deviate the muslim ummah from true islam. the true islam [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Which True Islam? Deobandi [two groups Hayati and Mamati] ,Wahabi, Jamati, Slafi, Barelvi, Shia, Pervaizi.
Justice Munir Commission of Pakistan had sought the definition of Muslim from every School of Thought in Pakistan. These Mullahs that include Mawdudi couldn't even give a single definition of Muslim.
javed ghamidid rejects
1. Any form of Had (Prescribed Punishment),
2. Hadith to be direct
3. Nazool Eesa Alahi Salam and his Life (like Qadiyanis)
4. Had for an Apostate (Murtad)
5. Claims the 7 recitations of quran to be wrong (he is a close ally and aide of Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer)
6. Music and Dancing of all sorts is permissible
7. Jihad against oppression is the only jihad allowed
8. The Shahadat of a man and woman are equal
9. There is no concept of Purdah (Hijab / Veil) in Islam"
javed ghamidid rejects – 1. Any form of Had (Prescribed Punishment), [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Wrong again, read
Murder, Manslaughter and Terrorism — All in the Name of Allah by Mr. Jawed Ahmed Ghamdi
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/12/murder-m…
my request to all pakistani muslim to learn more about javed ghamidi.just watching one or two episodes on "geo" or "aaj" can not make you realize the severity of this affliction.
kindly read this books:
http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/9178790/fo…
javed ghamidid on the punishment of apostate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bovdmD24u90 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Y6WpnFKJM
dr khalid zaheer on this issue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vmrr1ICtJo
javed ghamidid rejects – 6. Music and Dancing of all sorts is permissible [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Khan,
Wrong again. Ghamidi didn't consider every kind of Music/Dancing a Halal [Permissible] but debated and argued regarding Marriage/Eid Song, and Traditional Dance on the occasion of Eid and Marriage. Read Bukhari's Hadith on what kind dance and music???
my request to all pakistani muslim to learn more about javed ghamidi.just watching one or two episodes on “geo” or “aaj” can not make you realize the severity of this affliction.
kindly read this books: http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/9178790/fo… [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
You are quoting a book written to refute Ghamidi but it is written by Irshad ul Haq Asari i.e. Ahle Hadith [Asari mean Hanbali, Asari is the title of Imam Ahmed Bin Hanbal].
Every Muslim should read Maulana Irshad's Book but since he is a Wahabi [Salfai – Ahl-e-Hadith and Wahabi are samething] and your own statement on Wahabi is as under:
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moulana abul aala modudi (rehmatullah aleh) was a mujadid of 20the century..a great man with a great mind.not like real pervert wahabis who just lick their own shit.[ Comment by dr jawwad khan on September 30, 2009 @ 4:26 am The Brouhaha over Blackwater continues Posted by Teeth Maestro September 27, 2009]
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How could one learn something from a book whose author belongs to an School of Thought i.e. Wahabi [as per you "lick their own shit]
see for yourself how shamelessly he is lying about Quran e kareem and ahadith e mubarika.also giving the wrong meaning of "mutawafeekum" .like qadiyanis he is trying to convince the audiance that prophet jesus was dead and ascension was not physical ascension and second descent of prophet jesus(pbuh)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-79115736…
while Quran e kareem and sahih ahadith mentioning a quite different aspect of his(pbuh) physical ascension and second comming.
And he ['Îsa (jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)] shall be a known sign for (the coming of) the hour (Day of Resurrection). Therefore have no doubt concerning it (i.e. the Day of Resurrection). And follow Me (Allah) (i.e. be obedient to Allah and do what He orders you to do, O mankind)! This is the Straight Path (of Islamic Monotheism, leading to Allah and to His Paradise).
( سورة الزخرف , Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #61)
And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Îsa (jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them [the resemblance of 'Îsa (jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Îsa (jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) عليهما السلام]:
But Allah raised him ['Îsa (jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he عليه السلام is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.
And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) but must believe in him ['Îsa (jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of Allah and a human being] before his ['Îsa (jesus) عليه السلام) or a Jew's or a Christian's] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the Day of Resurrection, he ['Îsa (jesus)] will be a witness against them.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #157-159)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary (jesus) will shortly descend amongst you people (Muslims) as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya (a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government). Then there will be abundance of money and no-body will accept charitable gifts.
(Sahih bukhari-Book #34, Hadith #425)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it." Abu Huraira added "If you wish, you can recite (this verse of the Holy Book): — 'And there is none Of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (i.e jesus as an Apostle of Allah and a human being) Before his death. And on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness Against them."
(Sahih bukhari-Book #55, Hadith #657)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said "How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel
(Sahih bukhari-Book #55, Hadith #658)
Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the Truth and will prevail till the Day of Resurrection. He said: jesus son of Mary would then descend and their (Muslims') commander would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some (amongst you). This is the honour from Allah for this Ummah.
(Sahih Muslim-Book #001, Hadith #0293)
Hanzala al-Aslami reported: I heard Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) as narrating from Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) who said: By Him in Whose Hand is my life. Ibn Maryam (jesus Christ) would certainly pronounce Talbiya for Hajj or for Umra or for both (simultaneously as a Qiran) In the valley of Rauha
(Sahih Muslim-Book #007, Hadith #2877)
Hudhaifa b. Usaid Ghifari reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to us all of a sudden as we were (busy in a discussion). He said: What do you discuss about? They (the Companions) said. We are discussing about the Last Hour. Thereupon he said: It will not cone until you see ten signs before and (in this connection) he made a mention of the smoke, Dajjal, the beast, the rising of the sun from the west, the descent of jesus son of Mary (Allah be pleased with him), the Gog and Magog, and land-slidings in three places, one in the east, one in the west and one in Arabia at the end of which fire would burn forth from the Yemen, and would drive people to the place of their assembly.
(Sahih Muslim-Book #041, Hadith #6931)
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour would not come until the Romans would land at al-A'maq or in Dabiq. An army consisting of the best (soldiers) of the people of the earth at that time will come from Medina (to counteract them). When they will arrange themselves in ranks, the Romans would say: Do not stand between us and those (Muslims) who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them; and the Muslims would say: Nay, by Allah, we would never get aside from you and from our brethren that you may fight them. They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army). which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah's eye, would be killed ani the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople. And as they would be busy in distributing the spoils of war (amongst themselves) after hanging their swords by the olive trees, the Satan would cry: The Dajjal has taken your place among your family. They would then come out, but it would be of no avail. And when they would come to Syria, he would come out while they would be still preparing themselves for battle drawing up the ranks. Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then jesus (peace be upon him) son of Mary would descend and would lead them in prayer. When the enemy of Allah would see him, it would (disappear) just as the salt dissolves itself in water and if he (jesus) were not to confront them at all, even then it would dissolve completely, but Allah would kill them by his hand and he would show them their blood on his lance (the lance of jesus Christ).
(Sahih Muslim-Book #041, Hadith #6924)
Hudhaifa b. Usaid reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) was in an apartment and we were beneath that that he peeped in and said to us: What are you discussing about? We said: (We are discussing about the Last) Hour. Thereupon he said: The Last Hour would not come until the ten signs dppear: land-sliding in the east, and land-sliding in the west, and land-sliding in the peninsula of Arabia, the smoke, the Dajjal, the beast of the earth, Gog and Magog, the rising of the sun from the west and the fire which would emit from the lower part of 'Adan. Shu'ba said that 'Abd al-'Aziz b. Rufai' reported on the authority of Abu Tufail who reported on the authority of Abu Sariha a hadith like this that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) did not make a mention of (the tenth sign) but he said that out of the ten one was the descent of jesus Christ, son of Mary (peace be upon him), and in another version it is theb lowing of the violent gale which would drive the people to the ocean.
(Sahih Muslim-Book #041, Hadith #6932)
It is narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I saw near the Ka'bah a man of fair complexion with straight hair, placing his hands on two persons. Water was flowing from his head or it was trickling from his head. I asked: Who is he? They said: He is jesus son of Mary or al-Masih son of Mary. The narrator) says: I do not remember which word it was. He (the Holy Prophet) said: And I saw behind him a man with red complexion and thick curly hair, blind in the right eye. I saw in him the greatest resemblance with Ibn Qitan I asked: Who is he? They replied: It is al-Masih al-Dajjal.
(Sahih Muslim-Book #001, Hadith #0325)
'Abdullah b. 'Amr reported that a person came to him and said: What is this hadith that you narrate that the Last Hour would come at such and such time?………And Allah would then send jesus son of Mary who would resemble 'Urwa b Mas'ud. He (jesus Christ) would chase him and kill him. Then people would live for seven years that there would be no ran. cour between two person……
(Sahih Muslim-Book #041, Hadith #7023)
Narrated AbuHurayrah: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
(Sunan Abudaud-Book #37, Hadith #4310)
see for yourself how shamelessly he is lying about Quran e kareem and ahadith e mubarika.[Dr Jawwad Khan]
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What do you exprect from Mawdudi's Student?
http://www.amin-ahsan-islahi.com/
http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/content….
see for yourself how shamelessly he is lying about Quran e kareem and ahadith e mubarika.[Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Ghamidi was associated with Islahi and Islahi associated with Mawdudi.
http://www.amin-ahsan-islahi.com/?=2
Islahi was among the founder members of the Jama‘at-i-Islami, a religious party founded by the eminent Islamic scholar, Mawdudi, in 1941. During his seventeen year stay in the Jama‘at, he represented the intellectual element of this party and remained a member of the central governing body (Majlis-i-Shura). During this period, he did the groundwork needed to write a commentary of the Qur’an – an objective which he had set before him early in life. In 1958, he abandoned the Jama‘at, after serious differences arose between him and Mawdudi on the nature of the constitution of the Jama‘at.
After leaving the Jama‘at, he finally got the chance to fulfil his cherished goal of writing a commentary of the Qur’an. He also launched a monthly journal Mithaq in which portions of this commentary, Tadabbur-i-Qur’an, were published. In 1961, he established a small study circle Halqa-i-Tadabbur-i-Qur’an for college students to whom he taught Arabic language and literature, the Holy Qur’an and the Sahih Muslim. In 1965, a tragic incident brought an end to the journal as well as to the study circle: Islahi’s eldest son Abu Salih died in a plane crash. However, work on the commentary continued. In 1970, Islahi fell severely ill and had to discontinue all his intellectual pursuits. Subsequently, he recovered quite miraculously. In 1972, he shifted to a countryside village near Sheikhupura, where he continued to work on the commentary till 1979, when he shifted back to Lahore. It was on the 29th of Ramadan 1400/ 12th August 1980 when the great day arrived – the day when a monumental effort reached its culmination: the Tadabbur-i-Qur’an had taken twenty-two long years to complete.
In 1981, Islahi founded the Idara-i-Tadabbur-i-Qur’an-u-Hadith, which remained until his death (15th December 1997) the centre of most of his intellectual activities. A quarterly journal Tadabbur was taken out in 1981 as its organ. He gave weekly lectures on the text of the Qur’an. Later, he took up deep study on the principles of Hadith and began teaching the Mu’atta of Imam Malik in weekly sittings to a close circle of students and associates. After completing the Mu’atta, he also taught some portions of Imam Bukhari’s Sahih. Many of these lectures have been transcribed and published in the Tadabbur.
i am compiling all the evidence from Quran and sunnah against his efforts to deviate the muslim ummah from true islam. the true islam [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Which true Islam?
You have quoted a Wahabi Maulvi to refute Ghamidi.
I will quote the same Hanbali School of Thought [Wahabi] i.e. Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jeeliani Al Hanbali's book Al-Ghunya li-talibi tariq al-haqq wa al-din (Sufficient Provision for Seekers of the Path of Truth and Religion)
Translation of actual quote.
"As per him Hanafis [Followers of Imam Abu Hanifa] are rapidly heading towards hell and they are Ahl ul Bidah and deviant, they are Marjiyas a Deviant Sect of Muslims"