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Survey – Who is responsible for Bolton Market Tragedy?

Please take part in this survey designed by Omar Javaid – Critic Magazine, to decipher the public perception of the 28th December Bolton Market Bomb blast – Survey Form

As of my last response there were about 96 people who had filled in the survey showing an overwhelming majority of 84% respondents thinking that the bolton market tragedy was a preplanned conspiracy, and 74% thinking that external elements (Blackwater, CIA, Mossad etc) were involved. More importantly only 6% believed that the Talibans could have benefited from this incident.

Participate in this survey to express your own views and later see the complete set of compiled data from other respondents


111 Comments

  • Observer |

    Why don't you look at how your MQM buddies abuse everybody (including Jawwad), who disagrees with them?

    Btw: You have admitted that you will not explain and that you are DISHONEST. Have a look below.

    I (observer) wrote:

    "@Aamir

    As usual you will not explain or bring proofs. Your dishonesty is dominant in your jiyala comments."

    Aamir Mughal replied:

    "Yes, that is the way it is:)"

    http://teeth.com.pk/blog/2007/12/01/musharraf-tra

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Wasio Abbasi says: – January 8, 2010 at 12:53 am – @ Amir

    If Dr. Shahid Qureshi’s articles can be discussed then that would be great. He mentions a lot of facts which I don’t know have validity or not.

    =========================

    Dear Abbasi Sahab

    Dr Awab Sb should initiate and should post Dr Shahid Qureshi's article for discussion as a separate thread to clear the picture threadbare. Nobody wants bloodletting of late 80s and 90s back in anyway.

    • A SYED |

      Come on people.. look at the borader picture. listen to news and comments from all sides and establish a fair non Biased idea and comment….

      Still what I say is an opinion and I could be wrong.

      PPP is based on a good policy and I am a supporter of people like Z.A. Bhutto, Benazir, Aitazaz Ahsan, Raza Rabbani etc. But fact is there are so many other opportunists who have gotten into this party.

      The bombing was not a suicide as we now know, when earlier that was all which was mentioned to blame it on TPP etc. you know it was a Red Flag Operation of Land Mafia with support of people in PPP local government, may be even people like Zulfiqar Mirza.

      WHY!!! did the police took no action and later when they arrested some people, they had to be released as they were the wrong people just rounded up to from here and there without any proof.

      The story that it was not a suicide was also broken by media research team and Mr Interior Minister than had no option but to agree.

      Its a huge network of Vile Corruption, and this was no spontanious event, but a well planned, coordinated and organized one.

      My guess, as usuall the real culprits will never see justice… atleast not in this world

    • Syed |

      AoA Mr Sultan,

      Nice choice of name, but does not fit with you as Ayyubi was not a hate mongering racist.

      Don't get me wrong, I am not a MQM sympathizer, infact I think that all these politicals are pathetic… a melting pot of deacying flesh which an ordinary person cannot see.

      However, one needs to be analytical and come out of his personal bias based perceptions, … Don't be like INDIA, .. when a Rat god of theirs dies in Gujrat and causes plague .. even that is blamed on ISI

      You should come out for your own sake if no one else.

  • A SYED |

    Come on people.. look at the borader picture. listen to news and comments from all sides and establish a fair non biased idea.

    Still its an opinion and I could be wrong.

    PPP is based on a good policy and I am a supporter of people like Z.A. Bhutto, Benazir, Aitazaz Ahsan, Raza Rabbani etc. But fact is there are so many other opportunists who have gotten into this party.

    The bombing was not a suicide as we now know, when earlier that was all which was mentioned to blame it on TPP etc. you know it was a Red Flag Operation of Land Mafia with support of people in PPP local government, may be even people like Zulfiqar Mirza.

    WHY!!! did the police took no action and later when they arrested some people, they had to be released as they were the wrong people just rounded up to from here and there without any proof.

    The story that it was not a suicide was also broken by media research team and Mr Interior Minister than had no option but to agree.

    Its a huge network of Vile Corruption, and this was no spontanious event, but a well planned, coordinated and organized one.

    My guess, as usuall the real culprits will never see justice… atleast not in this world

  • yaseen ch |

    i think only MQM is responsible for karachi attack , mqm is making its nation wide party PPP a hostage by demanding more and more facilities for mqm which has no roots outside one city and whose leader is a murderer of dozens of people.

    i think time has come when PPP should eliminate mqm first from the government and then from the country because as long as mqm is there in karachi ,there can be no peace in karachi.

  • Nazia |

    The Karachi massacre and destruction are very simple to understand.If the cameras can record clear blast of our religious procession then why these are not re winded for few hours to locate who actually planted it .

    This was matter of just few hours as phosphors or dynamite only need few hrs to stay stable in normal conditions.

    Whole Pakistan has seen the negligence of security forces that they even couldnt arrest the boys having arsenal iron rods and guns in their hands on the spot when CCTV cameras were fully monitoring their activities.

    They ,the attacking men looked more confident and committed than our thousands of LE men who were specially deputed in this area for this particular event.

    Rebuilding of Karachi is not a problem but why this sheer negligence was made under extreme watch of all govt agencies and it is need to be cross checked.but who would do it? as professional criminals of mqm are getting pieces of justice from notrious zardari and his NRO team.

    If Taliban were so powerful on that day then why they never dared to attack like that on the day when altaf dada mesmerizES his harassed people through his lengthy prolong speech for hours and hours..After all he is spreading hateful comments for them for last 5 years.

    This is same Altaf dada who couldnt stop his cries and tears via telephone when a girl cry was heard through fake movie in his UK office but here no wailing sentiment was created by him when hundreds of men in Karachi had lost their bread and butter in just few hours in his ruling area.He even didn't make hue and cry on tragic death of shia followers in the streets of Karachi.

    So his silence for victims is still a mystery but he and his team missed no chance of blackmailing PPP and weak zardari for further big deals.

  • Raza M.Qureshi Canad |

    Notorious Zardari and his team members Zulfiqar Mirza,Rehman Malik,Raja Riaz are fully responsible for Karachi incidents. Zardari is very much scared of his all criminal cases which is going to be opened in Suprem Court, that's why he wanted to divert the attention of the people towards such riots.

  • Nazia |

    It is not matter that who did it but we as public should realize that state authority comprising of PPP and MQM people are unable to give sense of security to its working class.Target killings rate is still higher in this city as compare to other disturbed areas of Pakistan and after some intervals such kind of extreme lawlessness scenes are repeated where state always looks blind on clear signs of security breached done by specified group each time.

  • Raza M.Qureshi Canad |

    There is no difference between Zardari & Altaf Hussain. MQM Nazim Mustafa Kamal has admitted on live TV that the people of Karachi they are all ULOO KE PATTHEY HEIN. On behaof of his party MQM ( MUSTIQAL QOUMI MUSIBAT )he has admitted that they are ruling on all ULOO ke pattho per.Altaf Bhai give his speech from London on telephone and all the Uloo ke patthey of Karachi sit and listen his speech. How funny it is when the speaker is sitting in London and giving his speech on telephone and stupid people in Karachi sitting and listening the speech.It is indeed no doubt people from Karachi now must think on it, what MQM is doing ?

    • Nazia |

      @12

      Here too abusive Brutus!!!

      I think Karachi people in the way to dirty politics have indulged themselves into so much high words of sarcastic vocabulary that they have lost sense of mannerism which was initially known as their true and prior identity.

      So by refreshing their latest friendship bond between PPP and MQM by putting blame on invisible drug mafia is nothing more the piece of mockery for whole nation.

      It is also height of ridiculous attitude by state authority that on the dead bodies of 100s of mourners of shia processions and burning down of billions of assets in front of whole world, the end has come on smiling gestures of political groups with some give and take deals and abusive language of mustafa kamal for his civilian interrogators.

      Still not clear that who is real planner of such havoc in city of merchants of death and destruction but common people are again at loss as compare to the rulers who again cashed something on their dead bodies.

  • Tamaaz Khan |

    Funny, people from Karachi defend MQM, those who are not consider them the Devil Incarnate.

    A couple of points for those who are less knowledgeable about Karachi.

    1.) The Land Mafia, being a lucrative buisness, has various competing gangs. These gangs, depending on the area they are involved in, provide funds to local party leaders. So when the Mafia's compete they end up drawing in the various political factions that they are in bed with.

    2.) MQM, ANP, PPP, JI all are involved in the Land Mafia. These mafias are generally found in slum lands. Neutral observers have been writing about the land mafia since the late 70's (before MQM was formed), it is well documented that the land mafia'a are Pukhtoon dominated.

    3.)Bolton market is Memon domiated area, the HALQA of Farooq Sattar. Lighthouse is dominated by Bhori wholesalers, with large number of pukhtoon workers. These people are MQM voters WHY WOULD THEY DESTROY THEIR OWN AREA!!!! (which is my MK called these ppl ullah ka patthas). Secondly the shia in Karachi vote MQM, so I sincerly doubt they planted the bomb.

    Now if the blog owner and people want to hate on the MQM, reagarless of the facts, truth and evidence really have no meaning when countering blind hatred.

    PS. traders property was looted, but 40 Shia's were killed, yet no tears seem to be shed on that issue.

  • Tamaaz Khan |

    You can go on youtube and see who was involoved in the looting and destruction.

    The fact that you do not see MQM flags and Muhajir looking people doing the deeds, might be disapointing to you and might not fit in with your understanding of the world. But it is the reality.

    Screaming yourself hoarse about MQM being the mother of all evils and Altaf being a kala kawwa, might relax you, but will not bring you closer to the truth.

    You can just pick up the newspaper and read that the CDGK is running on no funds and has no control over the city's police force. Also documented is the fact that fire trucks and emergency vehicles were impeded from their duty, while the police stood idly by.

    So how can you put the blame on the City gvt. when the Mister for Local Government does not release funds and the Home Minister's police force stands idly by?

    I guess when it come to the MQM objectivity is too much to ask for.

  • Nazia |

    That is still unclear that exactly who planned this devastation in Karachi soil as routine matter of any kind of tension escalation in those meetings that have no link with mqm gathering. so far.

    Why mqm is being blamed for all this horrific incidents is very simple to judge on the basis of following points.

    -That party is controlling Karachi politics for more than 30 years in this period , they mostly took govt positions with full authority and control on related ministries.

    -Nothing like happened in even corner meeting of any mqm gathering for last 8 years since we jumped into war on terror under the orders of their guru pervaiz musharf.

    If they say they have no say in provincial matters then why they always sit with ruling party, black mailed them after all events and then live like happy couple after dramatic brawl with each other.

    Not a single time inquiry is conducted on such huge loss by city govt , which at least they should accept is under their control for last 5 years,

    This is one of stupidities of mqm that even having proofs of all gangsters recorded on camera thy cant locate the identity of criminals even in congested areas.It is matter of few hours or few days to locate such clear faces of criminals through their local nazims and dy nazims of their party.

    Who said their physical get up is not looking like PURE Krachi BREED.They are pure Karachi urban people, having no bolchi or rural looks in their body language who were well aware of Karachi streets, confident,well committed to their targets and fearless of presence of LEA .

    There is no shame in saying that second most gangy political groups in Karachi and suburb are geyay sindh or pppp sh bhutto group but they mostly attacked on suburb areas of Karachi so that they could escape from nearby highways.

    This incident of ashura was done in heart of Karachi where full concentration of mqm group is always dominant and huge supply of bhutta system from merchants of that markets to mqm goons are major contributions to party of educated and decent class of Paksitan.

    I am sure if JI and jeay sindh goons were found activated here it would be matter of hours to arrest them with the help of CCTV cameras.

    -Why this CCTV camera is unable to record the scene of planting this bomb which was surely done in back hours of blast?

    Why only blast movie was aired by city govt and all security lapses in this way are intentionally ignored.

    -How mqm say they have no control on sindh police.

    They are people of short lived memory.

    Forgot the case of shoaib suddle?

    How much hue and cried was made on his appointment and only ended when he was removed from the post and then new CPO name was announced under their recommendation.

    -Why the same police never created any disturbance in mqm requiem show direct telecast from UK when ever a tragedy occurs in any part of Paksitan.

    -There is no scene of requiem from altaf baji when something horrible in Karachi?

    In the end who says mqm or city govt is helpless in this regard.They have again forgotten that mqm governor who can even call army in this burning scenario is one of strongest and longest tenure governor of Sindh?

    do they deny this too?

  • Tamaaz Khan |

    Nazia:

    -"How mqm say they have no control on sindh police."

    Because the Sindh police force and Rangers are controlled by the PP Home Misiter Zulfiqar Mirza.

    Shoaib Suddle – the main accused in Murtaza Bhutto case and extra-judicial Karachi operations?

    CCPO Waseem Akhtar is appointed by Zardari.

    IF YOU READ the news he was watching the precesssion from the CDGK control room and next day took control of all recording, so ask him why only blast and aftermath is shown.

    So according to you because MQM jalsa's have not yet met with bombs – MQM is responsible for bombs in Karachi? If a bomb killed MQM women and children that would make you happier? The Shia's in karachi support MQM overwhelmingly so the attack was pretty much on MQM supporters.

    If you were from Karachi you would know what the MQM types typically look like!

    Also, you would remember in the 90's the Sindhi and MQM gangs used to have running battles in Saddar and the Hassan Square and Teen Hatti bridge massacres happened IN THE MIDDLE of the CITY (Nazimabad).

  • Tamaaz Khan |

    Nazia

    "In the end who says mqm or city govt is helpless in this regard.They have again forgotten that mqm governor who can even call army in this burning scenario is one of strongest and longest tenure governor of Sindh?"

    Considering it wouldv'e taken the Army a day to mobilize, when the damage was all done, how would this help?

    The affected shops are over 40% repaired most buisineses are back and functioning, so I guess the CDGK is doing something, NO? What has the PPP done for Lyari in 40+ years?

    Oh, I forgot, the tangible good done in Karachi is not important. It's the allegations back by no evidence and flimsy conspiracy theories which are imporatant.

  • pklove1 |

    i am not vitness of scene and plane program but i knows one thing who are behind this attack are not muslims and humen, it is done due to animal instinct (to achieve his goals by any means,unfairly or dont hesitate to kill others to achieve goals.) there are many agencies like black water, mousad,raw and any antipakistan org which are running a/c to their plan but unfortunatly our politics parties (all) and intelligence agencies are in the same catogary of animal instinct b/c history shows us they did too many cases like this kill innocent or anti party peoples,

  • yahya |

    You are right on track that karachi cant support people coming from other parts of pakistan every thing in the world has some limit karachi is already overloaded with too many people of many elasticities coming for earning money what ever means possible we cant bare any more people coming to karachi and disturb our areas ….today 1000s of acres of land in karachi has been under control of land grabbers and they have built their colonies by stealing land like Sohrab Goth, Orangi town, safora Goth, suchal Goth etc…..among these land they didnt even left barsatti nalas and other areas for drainage system and when ever there is a rain karachi got flooded…..another reason is because most people come to karachi for earnings are from rural areas and they dont know the environment of urban areas so they cant fit with locals but people coming from urban areas are able fit in karachi very well

    new comers are not the only problem but karachi also have gangsters in Liyari, land mafia in sachal and other sindhi majority areas, Taliban sympathies in pathan majority areas and also 3000 illegal madarsas and other organization, transport mafia, not enough police to monitor situation in karachi, lack of coordination between authorities and wadera mindset of many most important ministers(espacially PPP) they all are the problems of karachi and many people want solution and that is why they most prefer to vote MQM which actually belongs to karachi and had worked a lot for the development of karachi in the form of Mustafa Kamal……to be honest this local bodies system is the last hope for us and other parties of pakistan wants to take it away from us…..we start working from 9 in the morning and end at 2:00 at night just to earn revenue for pakistan and what we got is nothing but problems and even solution of those problems are taken away from us because we are in minority…..in 60 years we saw no development and in these 8 years we saw more development as compare to those 60 years but this system is also going and now we have to wait another 60 years for someone who could solve our problems…….In this situation only MQM is standing for karachi and for the people of karachi while others are just doing politics by using karachi problems and for the first time ever most educate people of karachi are standing with MQM and areas like defence, clifton which are elite class have become there strong vote bank like Nazimabad, FB Area and Gulshan which had never happened until before 1992 operation and I am feeling MQM is becoming more and more stronger as they are giving their voice as genuine karachihite not like others…..I hope they continue their struggle for Karachihite despite of all pressures and threats

    • Wasio Abbasi |

      This means you actually have no idea what you just wrote. Now that's disturbing !!

  • Nazia |

    Tameaz khan

    Army call in case of urgency is an important power in the hands of governor of mqm.NO once can deny it and he never used it once in all serious matters of blood shed and destruction happened in Karachi

    Mayor is second most important assigned leader under which thousand of employees of Karachi are working.

    CPO waseem was choice of mqm and with its consent he had taken charge on this important post.

    Shoib suddle was involved in extra judical killings of Karchi??

    Oh khan sahib you forget he had completed all his job with honors and early promotions and without any written allegation from mqm parliamentary group in last 20 years.He is still working on important assignment and all mqm people are satisfied with him until he come to their territory.

    The affected shops have rehabilitated on help yourself basis or wiht the help of some NGOs.

    Kamal mustafe is only trying to satisfy his few friends in this way who by chance came to cross fires.

    These all are happened realities whether you accept it or not.

    I am not focusing on flimsy suspense but looking for state writ which is all time absent from the scene of Karachi whenever it is required on priority.

    You people spent 4 to 10 billions rupees in last 5 years development plan but on the other hand acute negligence of state has burnt 4 to 6 billions rupees assets in one night.

    So what is resultant of all this development.

    As per law of economic we are still standing where we started.

  • Nazia |

    I don't belong to empire state of vampires who feel satisfaction after seeing the victims of bomb blasts of any party.

    My simple question is that in this wave of terrorism majority are commoners or street people.Few are targets of agencies as they turned against army and US in this war on terror.Even GHQ was no spared but not a single dare devil of Taliban reacted like their routine revenge attack on poisonous speeches of mqm leaders against Talibans.

    Even not a single show of hatred was shown by local pukhtoons of Karachi when mqm never allowed desperate and discarded people of swat in their territory.

    Shia surely supports mqm as other communities do and it is under environment of harassment.Why all major mqm leadership was absent from this procession.Just see the clips of last years where they were leading the processions.But this time not???

  • Karachi wala |

    Nazia has raised a good point.

    I agree with Nazia question :

    "Why all major mqm leadership was absent from this procession. Just see the clips of last years where they were leading the processions. But this time not???"

    The reason is very clear. This bomb blast was done by mqm, black water, british terrorists and india. That is why all the mqm leadership was absent from the 10 muharram procession.

    Britain must be specially blamed for all the terrorism in karachi because Altaf Dakoo is working under the guidance of the british terrorists of britain.

  • tamaaz khan |

    “Why all major mqm leadership was absent from this procession. Just see the clips of last years where they were leading the processions. But this time not???”

    This is proof that they did the bomb?

    When the people in our country grow up and start using their minds and stop with the mindless SAAZISH theory only then will we progress.

    Now for proof:

    MQM aginst CCPO waseem, PPP for appointment:
    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-

    Shoaib Suddle – accused in Mutaza Bhutto killing:
    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=200

    Please make your arguments a LITTLE more objective!

  • tamaaz khan |

    It seems you seem to say that you are perturbed that they have not been targeted by the Taliban?

    If MQM people are killed by the Taliban, then will you be happy?

    Is more blood what you are looking for?

    What makes more sense:

    People in Karachi vote for them is because of their success at keeping the Taliban at bay for the past 2 years.

    MQM bombs its own people with backwater to burn down shops in its own city, shooting itself in the foot?

    Dont make silly arguments!!

  • Nazia |

    Oh yes I am very much perturbed when see that Taliban never hit those people who are actually involved in their fabrication/ eradication via US technology.

    Try to extract the conclusion from the data and you would find that 90% victims of suicidal bombers are those who had no link with double games of insurgency in our state.

    It is not only mqm but there are lot of other personalities and groups who continuously diverted their stance on Taliban issues,but all remained unhurt by Taliban.Like JUI fazalurehman group,Involvement of officials in lal mosque combat mission like kamal shah, chaudry brothers, Ijaz ul haq rashid quershi, hamid nawaz etcmex supporter of talibans like hameed gul, naseer ullah babar Ijaz shah.brig Imtiaz and many more.

    They all live on houses close to main roads but these terrorists always burst them few km away from their real culprit.Even seeing the movement of armed US citizens in Islamabad /pindi streets, frequent car drives of rehman malik in Islamabad in his number plate free black Mercedes.But his presence is all ignored by these human bombs and always look hunting for unmatched rivals for them.The pukhtoon nation is always known for taking their accurate revenge on personal basis and at all cost but this trend which has been developed by this war on terror scenario is contrary to their thousand year traditional norm.

    so again it is not surprised they ignored all mqm rallies in last 7 years?

  • Nazia |

    Whether you found my comments the most silliest or with zero objectivity it doesn't matter to me but you even didn't carefully read your news sources.

    In first dawn cutting it was clearly shown that mqm only reacted on this CPO when operation was launched in their controlled area.See the last lines of this news and enlightened your self which you always ignored in your swift and unplanned attack.

    In second case Suddle was freed with grace as all proofs were found to be weak and fake.You can also dig for latest update.

    Murtaza's case was not part of mqm interest, they should chase him on their 25000 target killing under state forces in planned military operation?

    Did they ever officially reported him and your favorite naseer ullah babar in any lower level courts too?

    Try to revive your memory and then let us know.

  • Salman |

    These problems are rising in Pakistan and to avoid them, People need to unite this political game must really stop now