A US court has found Dr. Aafia Siddiqui guilty of attempting to murder US agents while she was detained for questioning in Afghanistan in 2008. She is allegedly have picked up an army rifle and shot at the US agents, none of the Americans was injured but Aafia Siddiqui also known as Prisoner 650, was shot in the stomach.
She was arrested by Afghan police in July 2008 on suspicion of carrying chemicals and notes referring to “mass-casualty attacks” in New York. A jury in Manhattan found Siddiqui guilty of attempted murder, of armed assault, using and carrying a firearm. She faces a maximum sentence of life in prison.
It must be remembered that in 2005 the then President of Pakistan, General Pervaiz Musharraf had bartered a deal with the Americans and may have actually handed over Aafia to the American CIA as she was deemed to have been declared a suspected terrorist, since then she has been missing until an outcry by Yvone Ridley who spotted a certain Prisoner 650 illegally being detained in Afghanistan, it is probably due to this media rukus that the Americans then had to create an elaborate story, which suddenly lead to this “assault on American soldiers and her getting a bullet in the stomach”
Since the alleged assault in Afghanistan, Dr. Aafia has been imprisoned in the US, awaiting a trial, only today has the trial ended, the jury convicting her on seven counts of attempted murder which may lead her to life imprisonment. There has been no mention of her being misplaced for the three specific years before the alleged attack – for which I hold the Government of Pakistan and General Pervaiz Musharraf wholly responsible first before putting the Americans under the cross-hairs
I and many Pakistanis may not actually like the overall decision, but we must draw the line, I am very sure that the defense [Aafia’s lawyers] must have presented the best possible case going through all the relevant facts with a fine toothed comb. After two days of deliberation if the jury has come out with a guilty verdict, we must simply accept the decision, pending a possible appeal, Dr. Aafia is guilty. Being a staunch believer in supremacy of judiciary we must accept this verdict, without possibly burning down the American Embassy in sheer rage and protest merely because the decision went against Dr. Aafia.
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‘MI handed Dr Aafia over to US’ By Faraz Khan Friday, August 08, 2008
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=200…
KARACHI: The Sindh Home Department has alleged Military Intelligence (MI) detained Dr Aafia Siddiqui in 2003 and then handed her over to United States-based agencies, Daily Times learnt on Thursday.
it should be above(typing error)
*we don’t accept the kuffar imprisoning one of our muslim brothers and sisters
This is another gift of Pakistan Army.
No Sir,
Gift was given to us almost 10 years ago and why we always forget Missing US Links!!! What General Mahmood [Former DG ISI and now in Tableeghi Jamat] was doing in USA in the same weak when 911 took place????? 9 -11 & Said Bahaji: Right under the Nose of Bush, Musharraf and Mahmud. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/10/9-11-sai…
“It’s the beginning of US down fall”, said Afia,s mother. I agree and strongly disagree with Awab that we respect judicial system of America which has been proved the system for protecting terrorists Americans. You right that we should not burn any thing but at least kick that bitch, A W Patterson out of this country. And not to forget Gen Musharraf also deserve the same treatment.
begining of the downfall 😉 / kicking Anne Patterson out – dude – you have me drooling -if it were that easy to bring "ghairat" in our leaders these two wishes (atleast the explusiion of Anne Patterson) would come true in a flash – problem is our leaders choose to sleep with a whore every night.
All said – I would appeal for a free Aafia, but I respect the courts decision – the way we might be arguing it seems that if the judgment is not in our favor we cry foul — I too am crying foul BUT in regards to the attempted murder charge the jury found the defendent guilty – swallow the karwi pill – and fight for an appeal – in my opionon the court proceedings were more or less transparent – and the biggest loop hols I saw was a day or so earlier the lawyer claimed that the case might go against them – !!! i think he knew defeat was impeeding and just made the statement to soften the blow and – not let the Pakistanis in-waiting recieved the jury statement as a sudden shock
"we must simply accept the decision"
F_ck that!
"we must simply accept the decision, pending a possible appeal, Dr. Aafia is guilty. Being a staunch believer in supremacy of judiciary we must accept this verdict,"
Doc, you have lost it!
Do you know what Taghut is?
Do you know why God send a deen called islam?
The whole point of a deen is that God say in the Quran that any judical system is ZULM except the ruling of Allah. I suggest you read surah maidah in detail.
You better figure out whether you worship Allah exclisively or the judiciary as partner of perhaps superior to Allah.
Munafiq Pakistani Government….
After the guilty verdict against Aafia Siddiqui, a Pakistani woman charged with attempted murder in the U.S, was announced, Elaine Whitfield Sharp, her attorney, told reporters outside the Federal Court House in New York Wednesday that government of Pakistan had put a gag order on Dr. Siddiqui’s family as a pre-condition to release her son, Ahmed.
Despite all the bravado of Pakistani officials implying that Dr. Siddiqui would be released, this verdict ensures that she will spend a few more decades in U.S. custody.
Sharp told reporters that her client, Dr. Aafia Siddiqui was picked up by ISI on March 29, 2003 in Karachi. They arrived in two black cars and placed Siddiqui in one car and the children in another car.
Dr. Siddiqui says that she was immediately hooded and drugged and when she woke up she was tied to a gurney in a place that could not have been Karachi because the air was very dry.
Sharp also discussed the issue of the missing children. She said that the baby was reported killed during the arrest, but Dr. Siddiqui does not know if the girl, Maryam, who would now be 11 years old, is alive or not.
Dr. Siddiqui was shown a picture of her baby laying in a pool of blood.
American reporters continued to find Dr.Siddiqui’s claims incredulous and questioned Sharp on the plausibility. Do you really believe her?, a reporter asked Sharp. “Yes!”, she replied categorically.
Sharp said that a gag order was placed on the family by the Government of Pakistan, who made this a pre-condition for the release of the oldest child Ahmed. This is why no one from the family has been able to talk openly about what may have happened to her and her children for 5 years.
Many reporters have also said that a Pakistani official who frequented the proceedings and told them “off the record” that Dr. Siddiqui was actually part of an Al-Qaeda sleeper cell.
Many legal observers have questioned if there was a conflict of interest in the Government of Pakistan paying for the defense when they themselves are implicated in her kidnapping.
Dr. Siddiqui, according to her attorney, requested all her supporters not to engage in any violence in protest against the verdict.
I strongly disagree with you on this last para
"we must simply accept the decision, pending a possible appeal, Dr. Aafia is guilty. Being a staunch believer in supremacy of judiciary we must accept this verdict, without possibly burning down the American Embassy in sheer rage and protest merely because the decision went against Dr. Aafia"
Yes, we should not burn down the Embassies, or any thing else. But, if you are expecting me to accept this ridiculous decision than sorry ! I am not with you on this. I will do whatever I can, in my capacity to raise voice against this engineered justice. I believe silence is a bigger crime if you do not speak against such cruelty.
SM Humayun & Others – fundamentally I agree with you – but mind you the charges on which the case was started was ONLY on the attempted murder charges, the accusation for abduction etc etc – were not part of the case – she was for whatever reason found guilty on attempted murder charge – all I say if a jury deemed that she was guilty – I think the case needs to go through an appeal and then see how much the judicial system is skewed – its best if we understand the charges and not react to accusing it merely because it is a guilty verdict – coz at the moment – people are not understanding the case – and accusing the US Judicial system to have done wrong – they at best answered only what they were asked to answer.
As far as not agreeing with the overall decision to prosecute a selective aspect of her abduction I could agree – I have been on record to have been against the abduction and consequent treatment of Dr. Aafia since long – for some time even to me its a set back – but one has to draw the line, had if the selective aspect of the judgment gone in our favor we would have been partying, but it just went against us, we are furious. Firstly the game until the decision came was set at an even keep – that said we all cannot be above the law – no matter how biased it might be, we can scream in opposition, but we must respect it nevertheless. My opinion is to respect the judgment and push for an appeal with the hope she gets off.
What I continue to question is why weren't all charges be added on his initial case, why was a selective aspect of the alleged crime debated and not the full extent of the scope – testing her on a limited scope we consequentially get a limited judgment. I have not followed the case in so much detail to understand why the court refused to take into account how she landed in Afghanistan in the first place.
That said, to draw sweeping comments against the US Judiciary I think that's pushing the limits – they have more often then not stood up for justice – last 2-3 years they have done quite a bit of work on the Guantanamo prisoners – releasing many even when G W Bush needed a leg up support to help his final days in power. I have a more faith on the judicial system – then trusting a dictator who initially handed her over in 2005. It may be Utopian, but merely crying foul since you lost the case is not on.
Awab, you are treating Judiciary like a God.Quite a dogmatic statement by you. Respecting judiciary does not mean respecting wrong things as well. If it's like that then you should stop your campaign against Zardari and the facilities he has been given by the constitution.
Adnan – I have come to reason that Judiciary is a very important pillar in the balance of power – Judiciary, democracy, executive and media – all need to out-do each other and balance out the extremities on each pillar –
In aafia's case the judgment was passed on what was questioned – the case was partially presented and hence a partial judgment came -what I question is – why did not the defense bring into motion, the fact that how did Aafia get to Afghanistan int eh first place? An act of god ?
So my statment stands – im not criticising the judiciary / nor the judgment, but mostly the case as it was presented
Sad news. Extremely unfortunate. What next? Does US' key ally on the War of Terror, doesn't have this much say? Whither Pakistani diplomacy?
Which courts are you talking about? If she was to be trialed for terrorism charges then she should be in an International Court. Cut that crap :S
Dr aafia is clear example of Musharf and his regime that by giving them to US, they had saved the lives of many top army officers whoa are theri buddy and this way saved the name of Pak army in huge scandals of supplying aide to talibans.
Among them was General Mehmmod,General alvi and many juniors officers.
General mehmmod at that time was most wanted demand of US but he was removed from official scene and given to another lucrative job in army camps after showing US that actions were taken as per US orders.
Dr aafia like people were just used as sacrificial goats to fill the tummy of US gini which only demands tag of alqaeda of people working with ISI when Alqadea was synchronized with CIA in jihad war.
So Dr Aafia case should be an exemplary for weak civilians that if they would be anytime hired by US-PAKISTAN ARMY joint venture, then there fate could be like her.
Does one consider that Aafia is more criminal than those officers who are coming on our TV that they were or still are backing talibans.
Can we think that Dr AQ khan is less criminal than Aafia but he was maximally secured to hide the names of top army officials from US intelligence.That is why he was pardoned like that , other wise he could have been treated like her too.
Now Dr Khan is crying even living in safe custody,Gen alvi was killed after showing rebellious attitude to ISI and Gen mehmmod is giving lectures of Islamic ideology to ordinary muslims in raiwand Islamic center
So sorry for this lady who did some mistakes in line of duty and now her whole family is suffering for this.
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1. First of an appeal must be filed
2. Demonstrations with NO destruction campaign.
3. Our media MUST get the acts straight and ask the tough questions to our own culprits, who handed over Aafia, and they also need to ask tough questions to all the relevant American authorities!
I forgot one important issue.
4. The supply NATO routes to Afghanistan and elsewhere MUST be blocked IMMEDIATELY!!!
No we do not accept this verdict, we reject such a court as a taghout.
They are imprisoning, we dot accept the kuffar imprisoning one of our muslim brothers and sisters.
Muslims should be trying to free them, not accept such evil
May Allah free us from these tawagheet, whether in amreeka or pakistan
This is engineered justice. With the build up of the case and during the proceedings it was quite evident that the prosecution did not have a case. Even the alleged M4 bullet was not found neither any sign of bullets being shot (except the one that wounded Aafia). There were too many inconsistencies. This case should have been thrown out of the court but as Aafia herself put it, she did not expect justice from jews.
Some eye witness account of the proceedings can be read here:
http://muslimmatters.org/2010/02/01/the-powerful-…
Doc,
With an opinion like that ("we must simply accept the decision, pending a possible appeal, Dr. Aafia is guilty"), at least have the decency to take off the "Free Aafia" graphic from the sidebar and replace it with "Keep the GUILTY Aafia in chains"
Nota – My position on Aafia is that she was illegally smuggled out of Pakistan – I vehemently object to that – but the crime as alleged in the judgment today is on the incident that happened in Afghanistan in 2008 – it has its weaknesses, but if a jury found this guilty – then my position is to accept the judgment – and not criticize the judicial process but in turn file for an appeal – ironically I heard fauzia say that they will not go into appeal??? if that is true it befuddles me??? or did she say file for sanity?
@TeethMaestro
"After two days of deliberation if the jury has come out with a guilty verdict, we must simply accept the decision, pending a possible appeal, Dr. Aafia is guilty"
What a capitulation and what a disappointing statement from you. What have you seen in this verdict – or rather a court theater – that requires such blatantly ugly statement?
Will you please clarify your mind boggling statement?
I accept the decison by the court, we all have to, the court was asked a limited number of questions and we got a limited judgment – the court was not asked – how was she abducted from Pakistan – – the court was not asked how she got to Afghanistan, the court was not asked if she was classified as a terrorist – those are issues I am arguing against –
the concocted story of attempted murder on an FBI agent may be far fetched as we see it but a Jury thought it was guilty and punishable crime – the jury might be wrong – > we must go into appeal – my position is accept the judgment – and if we differ and dont like it – we go into appeal – simple as that
In US they have courts for the whites with a high degree of justice and then there are courts for the blacks with lower degree of justice and lastly the Yankees have courts for Muslim "terrorists" with NO justice. To hell with the welfare state…oh no sorry, WARfare state USA and the SELECTIVE "justice system".
Don't play the role of a baboo. You will never be accepted by those who whom you imitate!
From a BBC article:
"The Americans said she had shouted "Death to Americans" and "God is great" in Arabic."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8497251.stm
Does Pakistanis say "Death to Americans" in Arabic?
There are so many contradictions and the can't even lie properly. Still their courts deliver such verdict and their media is also mum.
That, the verdict against the case on attempted murder charges is a just one, is a blatant lie ! no one can charge an innocent as guilty in a way that jury did. This judgement was "engineered" some where else and only delivered by your so called "respected" jury. Sham democracy, blind justice and mindless followers.
I agree with Awab ..it sounds cold but that is how law works.
Law often does not deliver Justice.
Finally one hurdle is removed…the case has been decided.
Now people can work for her release…
I don't believe in a Law that does not deliver justice. Better accept the Law of the Jungle than, rite? because its a "Law" too ! delivering justice is not an option here… huh !
Let them kill her, the bigger "hurdle" will be removed and then people can work for her burial in her home town in Pakistan. Isn't that a better roadmap?
@Teethmaestro
“the concocted story of attempted murder on an FBI agent may be far fetched as we see it but a Jury thought it was guilty and punishable crime”
This is disappointing and not a fair assessment of the scenario. We don’t have to accept the verdict. We MUSt REJECT it and PROTEST in several ways.
1. First of an appeal must be filed
2. Demonstrations with NO destruction campaign.
3. Our media MUST get the acts straight and ask the tough questions to our own culprits, who handed over Aafia, and they also need to ask tough questions to all the relevant American authorities!
“the jury might be wrong”
Not “might” be wrong. The jury IS wrong. It is obvious that they based their verdict on a VERY flimsy “documentation” or I should rather say there was NO documentation at all.
Personally I refuse to accept the verdict. It's a verdict from a KANGAROO court – no more no less!
Observer
Our 5th largest army cant stop drone attacks on our people.
neither through table talks nor with latest technology which they got through our hard money.
You are among the top most beggar nation in front of US management.
Ms Clinton seriously warned you to discard US aide but no one either from military or civilian side has any courage of reverting it.
Now tell me do you ever listen carefully the beggar whom you daily grant few extra money from your expenditures.
You answer should be in NO.
So your all mentioned steps are for dignified nation who even loosing all in war , preserve its self respect.
We are the nation whose representatives first loose their self respect before facing any financial loss.
So professional beggars are voiceless creatures and their all time demands are waste of time to consider.
But you don’t start accepting and respecting that stupidity as a matter of fact !
Observer
This is beyond your imagination that how few people mostly from army, NLC, FC senior men are earning form this deals.
CIA heavily bribed Afghan and Pakistani elites to carry on this mission smoothly.
So for the merchants of east, there is no value of 100 IB Afia.
Any how there is no harm in day dreaming so keep on it on the bases of false assumption that we are a dignified nation.
@Nazia
Our army and political leadership (PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, MQM, JUI-F) are ALL beghairat…..no doubts!
"Any how there is no harm in day dreaming so keep on it on the bases of false assumption that we are a dignified nation."
The day I stop dreaming life will become so DULL so I reserve the right to dream on for a better Pakistan. Maybe it will not happen in my lifetime, but I would be satisfied if just I have been a minor part of the big puzzle, which ensure the road to freedom and dignity for the coming generations. How'z that?
I like that. The moment you loose hope, you're dead.
observer
It looks very comfortable when one is making castles in the air.
Dream life keeps us in excellent world but when ever your eyes would open , it might be too late to act timely and accordingly.
Our first step should be removal of honor less and character less people who ar actually representing Pakistan like that.
I can prove you that Americans never bothered about your stand if we could even make million march on her favor.
They would only accept our demand on give and take.
If you know the case of Saleem saif ullah who was caught red handed in US while smuggling heroin in cotton bales under zia regime.
His father in law Ghulun Ishaq khan went there stayed here for two months and whole foreign office with involvement of military attache worked vigilantly for proving him innocent in US courts.
He was cleared from all charges quietly and returned back safely to his home town and in next elections he was elected as our minister.
You can make comparison of two cases like that.
General mehmmood was on wanted list of USA but why he is enjoying his religious life here?
@Teeth Maestro
"ironically I heard fauzia say that they will not go into appeal??? if that is true it befuddles me??? or did she say file for sanity?"
If she stated that I understand her completely. Maybe she realized with friends like you, Aafia doesn't stand a chance amongst the enemies. 😉
Teeth Maestro says: February 4, 2010 at 4:37 pm – begining of the downfall 😉 / kicking Anne Patterson out – dude – you have me drooling.
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Downfall like this:
Musharraf recalls in his memoir, “In the Line of Fire.” Within months Kiyani had unraveled the two plots and arrested most of the participants. He was rewarded in 2004 with a promotion to chief of ISI, and the next year his agency scored big with the arrest of Abu Faraj al-Libbi, the senior Qaeda lieutenant who masterminded the attempts on Musharraf’s life. A former U.S. intelligence official who dealt personally with Kiyani says the ISI “took a lot of bad guys down” under his leadership. Kiyani has earned his boss’s confidence, even serving as Musharraf’s personal envoy in recent talks with exiled opposition leader Benazir Bhutto. A former U.S. intelligence official who dealt personally with Kiyani says the ISI “took a lot of bad guys down” under his leadership. Kiyani has earned his boss’s confidence, even serving as Musharraf’s personal envoy in recent talks with exiled opposition leader Benazir Bhutto. REFERENCE: The Next Musharraf A Westernized, chain-smoking spy could soon become the most powerful man in Pakistan. By Ron Moreau and Zahid Hussain NEWSWEEK From the magazine issue dated Oct 8, 2007 http://www.newsweek.com/id/41883
Everyone please read the response of Afia's lawyer as in The News Lahore,"Tina Monshipour, an attorney for Siddiqui’s family, said afterwards: “This verdict is being subject to an appeal.” “There were a lot of unfair decisions,” Monshipour said, adding “She was portrayed as a terrorist even if there were no terrorism charges in this trial. This is one of those cases in which we see prejudice and bias invade the courtroom.”
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I think this case was decided with plenty of room provided for Dr.Afia.
the positive side is:
She is not declared a terrorist and the judgement does allow appeal .
The adverse judgement would have been with no right of appeal.
So I would say please hold your horses,respect the verdict and apply for an appeal or review with a strong support from Pakistan.
@Farrahshah
"o I would say please hold your horses,respect the verdict"
NO way!
"and apply for an appeal or review with a strong support from Pakistan."
Yes, and please add my four points to this:
1. First of an appeal must be filed
2. Demonstrations with NO destruction campaign.
3. Our media MUST get the acts straight and ask the tough questions to our own culprits, who handed over Aafia, and they also need to ask tough questions to all the relevant American authorities!
4. The supply NATO routes to Afghanistan and elsewhere MUST be blocked IMMEDIATELY!!!
"Being a staunch believer in supremacy of judiciary we must accept this verdict, without possibly burning down the American Embassy in sheer rage and protest merely because the decision went against Dr. Aafia."
hello? kia hogya uncle?? dude with all due respect, we ONLY believe in judiciary that is FAIR!
In america's case, if their judiciary were fair, why the hell is bush not brought to court? Even the dumbest of people know today that 9/11 was a false flag operation.
Everyone knows now that invasion of iraq and afghanistan was not just at all!
Why is this american judiciary not looking into the things that I mentioned above such as illegal occupation of an entire freakin country for God's sake!
the world has become a shit hole really.. achi khasi thi life before 9/11 and america is solely responsible for what Pakistan has become after that!
Awab,it was mentioned every where that jury could not find forensic evidences against Aafia and they believed on "Eye Witnesses" which were again none other than American marines.
I would like to continue on your "respect Judiciary" statement, why did not you accept courts by Dogar et all who undid every thing by Iftikhar? Was not disagreeing with Dogar is kind of disrespect Pakistani courts?
Because of this:
Alleged Demand For The Trial of NRO Creators.
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/01/alleged-…
Nazia says: February 4, 2010 at 11:33 pm – If you know the case of Saleem saif ullah who was caught red handed in US while smuggling heroin in cotton bales under zia regime.
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Dear Ms. Nazia,
Pardon. Characters were General Fazl-e-Haq [Former Governor NWFP], Air Marshal Shamid Anwer and his relative Khursheed Anwer Mirza and last but not the leased the crooked Banker of BCCI Agha Hasan Abedi [Money Launderer for Colombians, Panamanians and Contra above all US CIA]
A minor correction. It was Hamid Husnain [Former Habib Bank Executive] adopted son of General Zia who was caught in a Narcotics Case and the then US Government intervened because "Jihad" was in full swing!!! Background is as under – Read the facts after Religious Text.
Narcotics, Drug Trade and Islam
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/narcotic…
Their Judicial System is
"JISKEE LATHEE USKEEE BHENSSS"…
They commit war crimes and get away with it.
Why blame US? Their Judiciary would save their country man.
Our own army sold Dr Afia for big mansions for their Generals.
mughal
I am quite sure that it was saleem saif ullah who was held at US.At that time I was not politically aware but we heard all this from one official who was handling this matter,He told us that in cotton bales, Heroin was soaked in Saifullah factory .
He reached there In over confidence that his father in law strong relation wouldn't hamper his deals but by chance his consignment was spotted.
The name whom you mentioned all was done under CIA as an international move.
General fazlauq from here, abidi from Beirut and all others who arrested were same characters like Afia who had no political family background like Ghulum Ishaq khan had.
Gik was one of CIA agent in our soil who all time ruled Pakistan.
At the time of Ojri camp incident he was making an aerial view of affected areas with some security personals who were accompanying him in helicopter.They were shocked by seeing his extremely cold response and sometime smile was also seen on his face in his half an hour trip of a panic city.
Look I have no authentic source as you have to tell you all with proofs and by giving the name of people who told this as eyewitness might create problem for them.The eye witnesses also have no courage to do some thing against such civilized goons of Paksitan.
Agreed. And Ghulam Ishaq Khan [Rasputin], the Old Vulture had a lot to answer particularly Rape of Air Hostesses in Karachi by his other son in law Irfanullah Khan Marwat and one of his relative FORMER SSP CIA Sindh Police Samiullah Khan Marwat who was not only involved in Rape [of women and men in custody] but many other crimes from 1990 to 1993. There is a reference of Ghulam Ishqa Khan in above link. I hope you remember the Veena Hayat Rape Case by Irfanullah Khan Marwat in Karachi in 1991/1992.
Dont worry about about Veena hayat.As she was known in her circle for raping men of elite class.So at least in this case nobody knows who raped who actually.
I think it is very humiliating for our men to confess that they can also be attacked by women so instead of this, they prefer to take the charge of raping any woman for keeping the pride of their typical feudal masculinity in our system.
So if Irfan ullah marwat aurf pappu (his family name is pappu) had taken responsibility of this rape as he knew very well that his father in law and his general father had all kind of contacts to save him for keeping the honor of his family name marwat.
Dear Ms. Nazia,
It was done by him and Monthly Herald reported it in detail and you know what within hours Monthly Herald [that issue was on Marwat and SSP CIA Karachi Criminal Activities] was vanished from Newspaper stalls. Jam Sadiq Ali was CM Sindh. Dawn newspaper employees couldn't even afford to leave their office due to high handedness of GIK, Marwat, Samiullah Marwat and of course GIK/Military Establishment pet Jam Sadiq Ali. Being adulterer is one thing but you don't brutalize [i am censoring the actual term, Marwat committed unnatural acts with her] with whom you have intercourse and that is not even allowed with one's wife.
That is my focus of discussion that our all time elite class is all time exempted for any kind of punishment.After this scandal he fully participated in Sindh assembly elections,won it with majority and even got ministries like health, edcuation and I think mineral too.During his ministerial era he was found in many criminal cases of land grabbing, killing preserved alligators for his hunting hobbies etc.No body dared him to convict or put him in jail.
So middle and working class like dr Afia should think hundred time before indulging in undercover games as at the end they would be left alone and all birds of feather flocked them together in same group of their interests.
As far as I know that veena's father Hayet had same background like Ishaq khan, whose son a Pilot of PIA was once created lot of tension between china and Pakistan.But he was saved as per hope, plastic surgery was done to him and settled in USA .
It depends on what Teeth Maestro means by "accept". I cannot accept, or believe for a moment that the verdict the court gave, even on the limited number of questions it was asked, was proper, moral, or based on justice and facts on the event.
Maestro is right in that the judiciary is an important pillar of the state, but if this pillar or any other pillar starts to engage in zulm and aides the system crush the hopes and dreams of a poor feeble little woman and her family, the pillar is wrong.
I guess you mean "accept" as in, not do wreckless acts that might actually harm Dr. Afia's case, and instead accept the verdict for what it is.. then maybe.
Nazia has been acting so "godly" here as she know everything happened at Bagram and with Aafia.
Nazia, why dont you start your office at Teen Hatti with a board,"Hur Mushkil Asaan Hogi"-Qibla Bari Hakimani Sahiba?
Nazia has been acting so “godly” here as she know everything happened at Bagram and with Aafia.
Nazia, why dont you start your office at Tee n Hatt i with a board,”Hur Mushkil Asaan Hogi”-Qibla Bari Hakiman i Sahiba?
I am confirmed that I don't know anything what actually happened to her in Bagram jail.if you know it you can share it with US courts and poor Pakistani who are trying to give multi dimensions to her case.I am just quoting the words of people who met her.
US court are prosecuting a US citizen who is also mother of US citizens who born there.There is not a single time mentioned in court session that she was arrested from Pakistan.
Here only her family is claiming like that but his brother in Texas didn't add this point in arguments.
So things are not as simple as we are taking it.
Now something about your revelation.
If you think that teen hatti locality has such a low IQ community like you then there is no harm in getting on this tricky business with a board having some modification like that:: Hur mushkal assan hogee by Qibla bari hakiman sahiba under the spiritual power of pir adanan siddique phakee walay.
You would surely get you share through my efforts and services like that.
Why Dr. Siddiqui has never been charged with terrorism.
First: She was recorded raising funds for a charitable organization that turned out to have (suspected or proven?) ties to terrorist organizations. So what? Many people worked for or donated money to these organizations. There is no way of proving Aafia had knowledge of these links.
Second: Either her or her husband purchased night vision goggles and maybe body armour. The reports differ on this. Nonetheless, there is nothing illegal about this.
Third: she opened up a post box and the key was later found in the hands of a guy charged with plotting a terrorist act. For this to be a crime, the court would have to prove that the post box was somehow used in the plotting of the terrorist act and that Aafia gave the guy the key with foreknowledge that it would be used to plan a terrorist act. Her first two suspicious activities would not be allowed in court as neither were crimes and could prejudice a jury.
Fourth: Some guy in Sierra Leone claimed to witness her buying “blood” diamonds. One witness is not enough to prove she was there. How can they prove these were “blood” diamonds? How can they prove she knew they were “blood” diamonds? How can they prove she was going to smuggle them? How can they prove she was going to give the proceeds to terrorists? They can’t. They can’t even prove she was there.
Fifth: She allegedly married a guy who is being charged with plotting 911. Well the 911 plotter has not been convicted of terrorism to this date for one thing, and although she denies it and the guy's family confirms it, there is again nothing illegal about marrying a suspected terrorist.
Sixth: She was found with incriminating evidence in her purse the day she was arrested in Ghazni. Chemicals? What chemicals? Whatever chemicals she had was not illegal to possess else they would have added a charge for that. Notes? From what I have heard her notes mention places in New York and mention mass casualties, but they do not formulate a plot in themselves. They seem more like the incoherent ramblings of someone who might hate America, but how can they prove that what she had in her purse would aid a terrorist plot in the US? Can you imagine some suicide bomber waiting to launch his attack on the US but he is waiting for Aafia to show up with her scribbling about the Statue of liberty and mass casualties? “Thanks sis, We couldn’t have gone forward without you.”.
So you can see how adding these 6 things together may give rise to suspicions. Still, no court in America will allow a prosecutor to add 5 non-crimes together to come up with a crime.
What people do not realise is that she a citizen of the USA. She was born and raised in the USA. If she was just a Pakistani citizen it would make sense to support her. As an American she will have to abide by the laws of her country. There lots of Pakistanis who left Pakistan and permanently settled in the USA, abandoned their citizenship and become US citizens. Just because their name sounds Pakistani does not make them so. So let us stop sympathising with people who left Pakistan because hated being Pakistanis to start with. They have taught their children the feel the same way.
our government is begarit dalal hai saray k saray wo din door nahi jab in k sath aisa salook ho ga. tab yeh roay gay pitay gay or yaad karay gay k aik mulk ki beti ka kya haal kiya or in k sath kya hua…