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Benazir’s Murder: The Pyre Must Burn

The assassin displayed remarkable cool. At least once, he chose to delay his fire and then moved in very close to an advantageous position with the bomber following him. The man who grappled and brought him down deserves a citation.

Benazir Bhutto, the Daughter of the East is dead, buried and treacherously abandoned by her party leadership. Some prime witnesses including the assassin himself, the suicide bomber, Khalid Shanshah, Bait Ullah Mehsud and God knows who else are silenced forever.

Someone needs to explain why that hyperactive Benazir, the Princess of the day, infused with vigour like an elixir had to die. The Bhutto legacy will endure treacherous times. Qouting Hussain Pawar, ‘The pyre will burn’.

At a time when the country is struggling to fight its civil war in the backdrop of a sinking economy and growing parochialism, the Bhutto Legacy provides the cohesion needed to offset threats. It is the duty of every Pakistani to keep this pyre burning till such time the planners of Benazir’s murder are not identified and punished.

In the same stride, the nation must also know who murdered national leaders like the death of Jinnah and his sister, Liaqat Ali, Bhutto, Zia Ul Haq and Murtaza Bhutto.

Much before the UN Investigation, every Pakistani was convinced that all investigations into the tragedy are deliberately misleading. Scotland Yard appears as much an accomplice in the cover up as the Handle Theory. It appears that even the most incriminating video released by Channel Four through CNN and Dawn was deliberately blurred and edited to create confusion. This fact alone warrants expanding the ambit of inquiry to handlers outside Pakistan.

There is no doubt that Benazir was abandoned and left vulnerable by the state security apparatus by her very own stalwarts.

Her chief of security merits inquest solely on the basis of his changing statements in the hours following her murder. As it turns out, he and Babar Awan were the ‘get away men’ who fled the scene in Benazir’s reserve vehicle. The most loyal Khalid Shahanshah who had probably lost that element during his visits abroad was the first to jump into Benazir’s vehicle and also to jump out and bolt to Zardari house, only to be gunned down in Karachi.

After Benazir’s rally security was stand down. There were no senior police officers befitting the presence of a two time Prime Minister and VVIP. The much touted Elite Force instructed to make a box bolted well before the murder. Stays behind parties were either blocking the turning to the left or mere spectators; some at their own peril rubbing shoulders with the suicide bomber and the shooter. There was no chivalry in their death.

The news broadcast by channels within the first two hours of the incident need to be replayed. There were eye witness accounts by doctors of RGH that Benazir had received one to two fatal gun shot injuries. Suddenly everything changed and the doctors were made helpless by police and district administration. Even Shirin Rehman sings no more.

Cell phone communication through towers close to RGH will also reveal conversations of doctors and para medics eagerly disclosing to friends and families the extent and type of Benazir’s injuries. By morning everyone including cell phones was quite and shift doctors quarantined.

Observations such as these and the sequence of photographs in this article shall answer many questions to keep the pyre burning. At the same time they will raise many more.

This photo is about 20 seconds before the murder. At this point he took out his pistol but then put it back. At that point, the police was just behind him. Later he maneuvered his position with the bomber following him.

The assassin took a 90 degrees left turn and then approached the Land Cruiser from the front. In the first sequence he is doing that.

Please note the line of fire between the assassins eyes, pistol, BB and the two windows. Though the snap is not three dimensional, it miraculously gives an angle to the windows where bullets hit after going through BB.

The sequence of BB falling is in four frames. It is eight frames after BB has disappeared that the blast takes place. The Assassin could not have exploded the bomb because his right hand is in grip of a brave man who has thrown him down.

The driver of Land cruiser showed presence of mind and drove out on rims while Khalid Shahnshah jumped out and bolted. In the entire sequence, no get away car is visible.


111 Comments

  • Wasil Arian |

    So much time has since elapsed but persons like the author of this piece is still in a serious mourming mode.

    Very many agencies are engaged in investigating this unfortnate incident and the national exchequre is being subjected to bear the burden of heavy expenditure in this regard.

    I fail to understand as to what else can possibly be done and after all she was in political arena to become the PM for the third time, while she did not have any notable

    achievement during her earlier tenures.

    Ther are other more important issues which deserve to be dealt and tackled . The personlity cults is the bane of our nation and should better be avoided.

  • Hasan Nizamani |

    True, Wasil, untill that moment she was not liked by that much people here, loop at her previous 2 eras of power, times were same which are now, I don't understand that people who used to hate her in those days are now praising because she died there! What about the others who died in that incident or who died in the karsaz blast?

    We don't talk about karsaz blast because she survived, while what about the others who died there!

    No offence though, peace out.

  • Hasan Zuberi |

    A very well written piece Dr. sahab.

    @ Wasil / Hasan:

    This post is not mourning BB's tragic death but the elements involved in it from all sides … be it from her own party's ranks & files … to the security apparatus required to protect lives of this country.

    Its not the first time a leader of such level has been silenced in our beloved country … as the author rightly names it as a series of many starting from the Quaid-e-Azam himself.

    It is unfortunate that establishment survive and strive in Pakistan whereas the leadership and people die everyday.

  • Aniqa Naz |

    Its very informative to know that Murtaza Bhutto is a national hero. I and many other pakistanis were wrong when they think otherwise.

    It wonders me that whenever a leader died in an accident or in a political conspiracy he/she becomes national hero but many other people which accompanied them in the game of power and death becomes lesser a human. Even when they commit suicide just because they are unable to provide their families with basic necessities of life due to worst economical and political conditions of this country noone noticed their death but we have enouh money to spend sixty million dollars to investigate Benazir's murder.

    It needs no UN team to investigate who the murderer of these poor people is.

  • simon |

    [At a time when the country is struggling to fight its civil war in the backdrop of a sinking economy and growing parochialism, the Bhutto Legacy provides the cohesion needed to offset threats. It is the duty of every Pakistani to keep this pyre burning till such time the planners of Benazir’s murder are not identified and punished.]

    this is my reason

  • Imtiaz Khan |

    Killing of the leaders signify not only the persistence of establishemnt since independence but also indicates the rise of reactinary forces backed up by indivuals and groups who are by definition pakistanies but want to subjugate the majority of the indeginous and natives as these groups represents the interests of the minority migrated from india after independence including both punjabies and urdu speaking who collaborated always with establishments. Untill, this scenerio is not changed,peoples leaders will keep on being slained or hanged and reactinary ideology and gruops will thrive in pakistan.

    • Jibran |

      Imtiaz Khan,

      What a crooked-new theory….

      Establishment under the guidance of our Masters, rolled back the law which prohibited any one who had hold the PM office twice, to run for the third term.

      Zulfiqar Bhutto was baby sat into Civilian Marshall-Law Administrator and so was BB.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Jibran says: – April 27, 2010 at 8:38 am – Imtiaz Khan,

      What a crooked-new theory…. Zulfiqar Bhutto was baby sat into Civilian Marshall-Law Administrator and so was BB.

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      Dear Mr. Jibran,

      Go to any nearest Library and ask for 1971 Newspaper and read as to why Bhutto was Civilian Chief Martial Law Administrator because there was no Constitution in the Country and please enlighten all of us as to how you transfer the power from Martial Law to Civilians when there is no Law in the country and after 1971 the Assembly was Legislative Assembly which produced the consensus constitution of 1973. [You can hate both Bhutto and Benazir and I respect your right but do read history before posting a comment]

    • Al |

      @Imtiaz Khan: Yes you are right. It is all because of migrants from India that we are in the state we are in today. You should throw them out of Pakistan so you can have Pakistan all to yourself. And while you are at it please also remove the names of Jinnah & most of the Muslim League leadership that was responsible for the creation of Pakistan. Although Jinnah was the founder of Pakistan but unfortunately for you he was also a migrant from India so we should remove him from history books as well or is your racism only targeted towards urdu & punjabi speakers?

      Where do these nut-jobs come from? Will we ever as a nation get rid of this fucked up racist mentality?

  • simon |

    [Political stability has evaded Pakistan since 1947. Bureaucratic intrigues, repeated military interventions and exclusion of popular governments have fortified the role of elites. They have directly and indirectly toppled governments to ensure that Pakistan’s political clock clocks what they want. These elites exploited the many gaps in political structure of Pakistan for entrenchment, wherein even apparently popular governments once in opposition adopted a similar approach. According to Rafay Alam, “there has been no revolutionary exertion of rights in this part of the world; it is not difficult to conclude that the Pakistani state did not acquire a fresh personality at its birth and that instead, it inherited the worst possible mindset for running a country”. Dr. Mubashir Hassan has often made slanted references to this invisible force capable of paralysing political governments]

    http://insight-and-foresight.blogspot.com/2010/01

    • Nazia |

      Simon

      Bhutto legacy was originated from typical feudal culture of Pakistan where lords have a long history of joint ventures with super powers of each era.

      If he wouldn't have groomed as politicians under Ayub he was in the bureaucracy of Pakistan but his natural talent tended him to lead the public and his over confidence as being a richest and influential Pakistani under miltiary mafia made him international leader.

      Benazir inherited his legacy but all time failed in her two tenures or we can say couldnt carry on the burden of bhuuto legacy with changing trend of people's mood.

      She didn't return to country on people's demand or through any kind of political struggle but through table talks with backdoor power houses.

      She was killed by these powers as in such deals there is no safe passage and all strictly adheres to do and die policy.

      Her trusted team proved to be fatal just like her as she two times misled her followers too specially in her constituency where people since long time have been spiritually linked with this family due to their inherited slavery attitude.

  • Nazia |

    Simon

    your observation on drawing line of fire is not correct as even expert shooter cant hit accurately directly to his target while standing in mob .

    She was perfectly hit by target bullet by a professional shooter who was standing some where else.

    See her face such kind of bullet destroy the entrance side of body but her all face was not damaged as we see victims of shooting .

    Nobody is bothering that who made firing even after blast as many people killed and wounded due to spraying bullets, nobody knew where it was coming?

    Any how if her close friends, family members are not interested in any kind of inquiry so who are we to think for the most unlucky woman of this era.

    She couldnt have a single heir or any close friend who could have pursued her killers who successfully did all this in front of hundreds of cameras and tv coverage.

    Her party govt even awarded all who were indirectly controlling the state matters directly linked with her security matters.

    So you see she flocked same kind of corrupt birds around her who left her alone in first line of fire.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      as even expert shooter cant hit accurately directly to his target while standing in mob. She was perfectly hit by target bullet by a professional shooter who was standing some where else. See her face such kind of bullet destroy the entrance side of body but her all face was not damaged as we see victims of shooting.Nobody is bothering that who made firing even after blast as many people killed and wounded due to spraying bullets, nobody knew where it was coming?

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      Agreed. There must have been another shooter near water tank or any where else and there could be more than one shooters. Remember there was an attempt on her life some days prior to 27 Dec 2007 and that was in NWFP.

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Nazia says: – April 26, 2010 at 5:16 pm – Simon Bhutto legacy was originated from typical feudal culture of Pakistan where lords have a long history of joint ventures with super powers of each era. If he wouldn’t have groomed as politicians under Ayub he was in the bureaucracy of Pakistan but his natural talent tended him to lead the public and his over confidence as being a richest and influential Pakistani under miltiary mafia made him international leader.

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    And that's why UN President Nixon was addressing General Yahya Khan instead of Bhutto and that too at the Eve of Fall Of Dhaka when Yahya was butchering Bengalis and USA was supporting Yahya and not only that Nixon wrote instructions to State Deptt. Official to not to squeeze Yahya. Read the declassified US Government Papers. Handwritten note from President Richard M. Nixon on an April 28, 1971, National Security Council decision paper: "To all hands. Don't squeeze Yahya at this time – RMN" The Tilt: The U.S. and the South Asian Crisis of 1971 National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 79 December 16, 2002 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB79/

    Keep it up Ms. Nazia.

    • Al |

      @Aamir Mughal: You cannot deny Bhutto was from a very privileged background. However, having said that, have a rich background does not guarantee that you will reach the heights of power that Bhutto did. He was surely a man of immense abilities & i think the only politician of note that Pakistan has ever produced.

      But at the same time he wasn't really a strict constitutionalist & democrat & displayed the familiar autocratic tendencies as soon as he had power.

      As far as 1971 is concerned, no doubt the discrimination & crimes against the Bengalis lie squarely on the shoulders of our establishment. However, everyone knows on who's side Bhutto was in the whole affair & you cannot simply wish away his role if you want to be fair & honest. If Bhutto had wanted he could have backed Mujeeb to form the next government against the wishes of the establishment – and in my opinion if the two major parties in parliament would have agreed amongst themselves to do everything to keep the military out of politics & governance, 1971 wouldn't have happened. But everyone knows on which side Bhutto was.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: – April 27, 2010 at 4:20 pm – @Aamir Mughal: However, everyone knows on who’s side Bhutto was in the whole affair & you cannot simply wish away his role if you want to be fair & honest. If Bhutto had wanted he could have backed Mujeeb to form the next government against the wishes of the Establishment

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      Why then Zia didn't try Bhutto for treason? Instead Zia booked him for Ahmed Raza Kasuri's murder and inducted a key culprit of East Pakistan i.e. General Rao Farman Ali Khan in his Cabinet.

    • Al |

      @Aamir Mughal: Treason for what? Bhutto sided with the establishment in 1971. You simply cannot wish away this fact. What would they try him for treason for? He had sided with them.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: – April 28, 2010 at 9:51 am – @Aamir Mughal: Treason for what? Bhutto sided with the establishment in 1971. You simply cannot wish away this fact. What would they try him for treason for? He had sided with them.

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      My sarcasm was not aimed towards you but toward those [particularly the JI] who say the "That Bhutto was responsible for the Fall" [forgetting Al Shams and Al Badar], if you would carefully read my post above I didn't try to wish that fact away rather I have mentioned the appointment of General Tikka Khan as COAS by Bhutto.

      You must have remembered the death of Sardar Nawroz Khan, his sons, and nephew who were Quran and promised Fair Trial by then Brigadier Tikka Khan in late 50s for stopping insurgency and laying down weapons during Military Operation in Baluchistan and then all of them were hanged to death despite promise on Quran. The same Tikka butchered Bengalis, the same Tikka was COAS [MADE BY BHUTTO] and if all these were not enough the same TIKKA had become General Secy of PPP and then Governor Punjab.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: – April 28, 2010 at 9:51 am – You simply cannot wish away this fact.

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      Bhutto and Fall of Dhaka By Muhammad Ahsan Yatu http://pakistantimes.net/2003/12/18/guest2.htm
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      Bhutto is most often attacked: the Udhar tum, idhar hum line; and the tearing-up of the Polish resolution that apparently could have prevented the break-up of Pakistan. He demonstrated that the first was the intervention of headline writer Abbas Athar and the second was an urban myth. Bhutto tore his speech paper not the polish resolution and slogan of idhar hum udhar tum was published in an obscure Urdu Newspaper News editor Abbas Ather [nowadays a Chamcha of Zardari] of daily Azad, Lahore, slapped this colourful headline on a news report of Bhutto’s speech at Nishtar Park, Karachi.

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      Not that Polish Resolution again! Khalid Hasan
      http://www.khalidhasan.net/2006/10/08/not-that-po

    • Al |

      @Aamir Mughal: I don't agree with those who blame Bhutto for the division of Pakistan. Bhutto couldn't have done anything without the establishment. And the establishment could not tolerate power in the hands of Bengalis. I agree that JI was in cahoots with the establishment at the time & have a really dirty history & they are in no position to blame anyone else.

      But again i will state that unlike what you seem to be implying Bhutto was no innocent bystander in this whole sordid affair. You say you are not wishing his role away & then using evidence of propaganda to somehow imply that Bhutto was an innocent politician caught in the whole affair. He was not. And i don't base my opinion on propagandist slogans that were created against him but on the sequence of events that transpired.

      I really admire Bhutto for his personality & i think Pakistan has not produced another politician & leader of his caliber but i am not blinded to his shortcomings & his failures either. His record in power was not very good.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: April 28, 2010 at 10:48 am His record in power was not very good.

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      More than agreed.

  • Observer |

    This is not about liking and disliking BB. This is about finding the truth. Too many people are trying to show us that much effort has been laid in to find the truth/culprits, but the reality is that the monkeys are jumping from one branch to another and then back again.

    Will we never know the truth behind this outrageous and criminal act just like we have never been told the truth (officially) behind so many other high profile murder cases?

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Nazia says: – April 26, 2010 at 5:16 pm – Simon Bhutto legacy was originated from typical feudal culture of Pakistan where lords have a long history of joint ventures with super powers of each era. If he wouldn’t have groomed as politicians under Ayub he was in the bureaucracy of Pakistan but his natural talent tended him to lead the public and his over confidence as being a richest and influential Pakistani under miltiary mafia made him international leader.

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    Yes indeed Bhutto entered Politics during the days when Iskander Mirza was ruling the roost but saying that Bhutto was groomed by a Military Regime would be wrong because had this been so then such Military Commanders should have faced Court Martial for Launching an Operation like Operation Gibraltar/Operation Grand Slam [1965 misadventure (launched by Major General Akhter Hussain Malik) like 1999 misadventure of Kargil] Nur Khan reminisces ’65 war By Our Special Correspondent http://www.dawn.com/2005/09/06/nat2.htm

    • Nazia |

      I think here you did some kind of mistake.

      Gen akthar actually was the first geenral who achieved his targets provided to him by his senior command.

      1965 war had unique feature in which Pakistan proved her superiority on technical basis but as usual failed as taking orders from top rank diverted the whole situation.

      These were my home stories.I had lost three uncles in this war and my father was proud ghazi.

      Now some facts from history pages which truly matches with real events

      As GOC 12th Division, Gen Akthar was the overall commander for Operation Grand Slam in the Indo-Pakistan war of 1965. For his successful handling of the initial phase of the operation, he was awarded the Hilal-i-Jurat, the second highest gallantry award of the Pakistan Army. Controversially, the command was handed over to General Yahya Khan in mid operation, resulting in delay and eventual failure of the operation. The cause for this midway switch over is an object of speculation to this day.

      Qudrat Ullah Shahab had been a Minister of Information, Secretary to the President (Ayub Khan), and an Ambassador in Holland, and he was very informed and well connected person. He said that:

      "At a time when Major (General) Akhtar Hussain Malik was to take over Akhanoor to pave the way to take Srinager, the capital of Kashmir, he was wrongly removed from the command, and General Yahya Khan was put in his position. Perhaps the aim was to deprive Pakistan success in Akhnoor, Yahya Khan accomplished this task very well."

      Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, one of the main players of this game (Operation Grandslam), also later argued that,

      “Had General Akhtar Malik not been stopped in the Chamb-Jaurian Sector, the Indian forces in Kashmir would have suffered serious reverses, but Ayub Khan wanted to make his favorite, General Yahya Khan, a hero.”

      One thing noted after this war that India raised her defense budget more than previous one and after this war they turned their priorities from human development to security issues and started huge arms race among south asian countries.

      So you can say that our top army men always worked as marketing agent of international war industrialists by promoting war culture.

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Nazia says: – April 26, 2010 at 5:16 pm – Simon Bhutto legacy was originated from typical feudal culture of Pakistan where lords have a long history of joint ventures with super powers of each era. If he wouldn’t have groomed as politicians under Ayub he was in the bureaucracy of Pakistan but his natural talent tended him to lead the public and his over confidence as being a richest and influential Pakistani under miltiary mafia made him international leader.

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    One of those who as per Nazia was behind the grooming of Bhutto was once suspended by Jinnah for not cooperating with Sardar Rub Nishter after partition in the settlement of displaced person in the Former East Pakistan, he was General then GOC Dhaka i.e. Ayub Khan [whose son Captain Retd. Gauhar sowed the seed of Ethnic Hate and clash in Karachi during 1964/65] US Vice President Joe Biden & 'Non Functioning' Democarcy in Pakistan – 1
    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/02/us-vice-

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Nazia says: – April 26, 2010 at 5:16 pm – Benazir inherited his legacy but all time failed in her two tenures or we can say couldnt carry on the burden of bhuuto legacy with changing trend of people’s mood.

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    Wrong again: [Just Old news clippings of Monthly Herald 1990] Kamal Azfar & Threats To The Democracy in Pakistan. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/12/kamal-az

    Guess what! Ghulam Ishaq Khan sacked Benazir Bhutto Government in 1990 on Corruption Charges and accepted Asif Ali Zardar as caretaker Federal Minister in Cabinet in 1993 [that shameless old vulture Roedad Khan was ago between GIK, AAZ AND BB and that shameless Old Rascal was fighting NRO by tooth and nail in 2009 and Roedad was also involved in Mehran Bank Scandal].

    Dear Ms. Nazia,

    Do check and recheck your facts before posting a message. Jiyalas are everywhere nowadays.:)))

    • Nazia |

      Oh poor jiyalas

      Who couldnt even find the traces of her killers in PPP govt?

      God save us such kind of coward jiyalas who preferr to enjoy state benefits on the dead bodies of bhuttos.

      Mughal

      I have no paste and fix technique but I live and meet with people who were invloved with her in corruption scandals.They are my relatives and once upon a time die hard LOVERS of PPP like you,.They risked their lives for her, stood against their own families for supporting her but it is also true that in her second tenure they voted for sharif,

      I have full details of how she collaborated with talibans group under her buddy naseer ullah babar and got her share.

      My father fought two wars under gen nasser ullha babar.

      My family since 1970s to 1995 were all time supporter of PPP but I think this number has been reduced to only 25%.So whom you are trying to create fear factor.I have characters around me who even shared commission from her and her beloved husband even in defense deals.

      I hope you remember purchase of helicopter scandal for navy and name of top bureaucrats close to her.

      what ever she did in zia regime was for her survival or in revenge as such feudalistic characters consider zia like people as kamee kameen and that is why promoted to top ranks to keep them under their feet and orders.But they forget that in history the most strongest are usually hit by most weakest character around them.

      Her decision of marrying to one of stupid character of dirty politics of Sindh like zardari reflects her choice and calibre as seem to be strongest woman of Pakistan.Picking the most insulting man as father of her next generation is weakness of any strong and educated woman and some how shameful act for her whole life,

      It was not only GIK but jiyala like farooq lagehar did same to her on the charges of corruption.

    • Nazia |

      Even then you believed that a teenager standing in mob with the help of a pistol targeted her accurately.

      You might taught this wordy ballistics in net world.

      I have given you comments taken from the perfect shooters who are also expert of handling ballistics.

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Nazia says: – April 26, 2010 at 11:04 pm I have no paste and fix technique but I live and meet with people who were invloved with her in corruption scandals.

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    Does your statement good enough to stand in the court of Law. Cut and Paste is because I don't quote anything without reference [references can be challenged]. You can say whatever you like because statements are opinion not evidence.

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    They are my relatives and once upon a time die hard LOVERS of PPP like you,. [Nazia]

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    Wrong again I am not a PPP supporter.

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    I have full details of how she collaborated with talibans group under her buddy naseer ullah babar and got her share. [Nazia]

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    Yes I shared that detail with you in many threads. That's also in my blog. If she collaborated with Taliban then it was Pakistan's Policy to end the Civil War in Afghanistan which was raging amongst Afghan War Lords since the defeat and withdrawal of USSR [1979-1988] Civil War [1989 – 1996] and Taliban [1996 till 911 with US, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Pakistan as backers].

    My father fought two wars under gen nasser ullha babar.

    My family since 1970s to 1995 were all time supporter of PPP but I think this number has been reduced to only 25%. So whom you are trying to create fear factor. I have characters around me who even shared commission from her and her beloved husband even in defense deals. I hope you remember purchase of helicopter scandal for navy and name of top bureaucrats close to her. [Nazia]

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    Share the names with evidence instead [WITH REFERENCE] of using too much Vitamin "I".

    zia like people as kamee kameen [Nazia]

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    Dear Ms. Nazia,

    All Human being are equal before Allah. I am a fierce Anti Zia but his caste "Arain [the most hard working race in South Asia] was not the reason for which I opposed rather it was the Martial Law and his policies. You are an educated person and Racism doesn't suit you.

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    It was not only GIK but jiyala like farooq lagehar did same to her on the charges of corruption. [Nazia]

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    Why is it so that Son In Law of GIK i.e. Anwer Saifullah always join the same Corrupt PPP??? On Laghari read the their History of Corruption: Tummandar Sardar Farooq Ahmed Khan Laghari http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/tummanda

    • Nazia |

      mughal

      you wrongly and incompletely pick my comment.

      zia like people as kamee kameen [Nazia]

      Dont cut my sentence in wrong context as I said on the behalf of people like bhutto who take such officers coming from lower background to behave like their slaves.

      That is why such ordinary and lower caliber officers are promoted on the basis of personal choice of our ruling elites, superseding genuine officers.

      Would you deny this culture in Pakistan that sharp boss would only promote the duffer subordinate for securing his surroundings on long term basis to get extensions .

      I cant think of saying such racist comment to even my labour class whom I daily handle.

    • Nazia |

      mughal

      As you are enriched in supply of vitamen C&P , like you my source of information is vitamen I. which I enjoy more to utilize then depending on other sources.

      You know better than me that weak nations and corrupt leadership are worst in paper work or mostly publish things after sharp editing in which black spots are deleted mostly.

      I have experienced lot of events and personalities which are wrongly interrupted in reports and actual situation or people are very different so I enjoy discussing those topics which I see or face though my eyes and experience.

      Least bother to dig past due to short of time and this is no doubt your strong area.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Nazia says: – April 28, 2010 at 3:20 pm mughal You know better than me that weak nations and corrupt leadership are worst in paper work or mostly publish things after sharp editing in which black spots are deleted mostly.

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      Most of text I have quoted wasn't challenged till now in the court of law through filing a damage suit e.g. names of politicians who were involved in Mehran Bank Scandal because not a single politician took Dawn and News to the court of Law.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Nazia says: April 28, 2010 at 3:08 pm mughal as I said on the behalf of people like bhutto who take such officers coming from lower background to behave like their slaves.

      That is why such ordinary and lower caliber officers are promoted on the basis of personal choice of our ruling elites, superseding genuine officers.

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      You are wrong again. Zia was US Trained [Fort Brags USA] and earlier he was in British Army [Commissioned Officer] – Tikka Khan had advised Bhutto to not to appoint Zia because Zia was [Maternal Son-In-Law of Mian Tufail Muhammad Former Ameer of JI].

  • Aamir Mughal |

    Nazia says: – April 26, 2010 at 11:45 pm I think here you did some kind of mistake. Gen akthar actually was the first geenral who achieved his targets provided to him by his senior command. 1965 war

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    Reference for the text you have written???

    By the way Bhutto was Foreign Minister not Director General Military Operations: My references are as under: Pakistan 1965 to 1971. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/pakistan

    Dear Ms. Nazia,

    You want to condemn Bhutto, I have no problem with it but condemn him for the crimes he committed [not for act which he didn't commit] e.g. Appointing Tikka Khan [a Butcher of Bengal and earlier when he was Brigadier – A butcher of Baluchistan] his Chief of Army Staff.

  • Aamir Mughal |

    In the same stride, the nation must also know who murdered national leaders like the death of Jinnah and his sister, Liaqat Ali, Bhutto, Zia Ul Haq and Murtaza Bhutto. [simon]

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    If we apply Hamid Gul’s logic then Jinnah’s death was caused by a conspiracy hatched by Fatimah Jinnah to possess property, Pistol was not fired by Said Akbar on Liaquat but by Rana Liaquat and Tara Maseeh was Nusrat Bhutto in Adiyala Jail in 1979. Would Hamid Gul like to give some clue about his role in General Zia’s death? Lies of Lt. Gen [R] Hamid Gul & Murder of Benazir Bhutto. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/04/lies-of-

  • Aamir Mughal |

    and Murtaza Bhutto. [Simon]

    ====================

    Part – 1

    Kamran Khan [The Correspondent of The News International/Washington Post] was the one who met with Murtaza in Damascus (Syria) [at the behest of Brigadier (r) Imtiaz] several times and insist him to come back to Pakistan, Kamran used to fly to Syria every month at that time. Read observation of Mr Justice Nasir Aslam Zahid on Kamran Khan.

    Excerpts are from a book, Kamran Khan was then a Correspondent for The News International/Jang Group of Newspapers’s News Intelligence Unit. I wonder why our Esteemed Journalist Kamran Khan suffer from acute Inferiority Complex to name his feature as if its a section of US Central Intelligence Agency, he should have been proud of just quoting the story as Special Report.??? What is News Intelligence Unit? There must be a difference between Special Branch Report and Newspapers..

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    Murtaza Bhutto; Events after his murder

    Kamran Khan, a correspondent of The News, appeared with a written request that he should be heard as a witness to reply to the statement made by the former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, to clear his name, to which the tribunal said it was not holding a defamation trial. The tribunal said it was not concerned with who had said what and that the former prime minister had named 50 people in her statement and there was no time to allow all those who had been named in her statement the opportunity to hear them. “We have limited time and by March 17 the report has to be submitted to the government and we will not allow you to examine Ms Benazir Bhutto and if we allow that there will be no end to it,” the chairman observed. The chairman asked him to submit a written statement before March 17. He also observed that he (Kamran Khan) should have come forward earlier, when the messages were being sent to him. He was reminded by the tribunal that one of the reporters of The News, Maqbool Ahmed, was given the message to convey to him for his appearance when his name was mentioned in the list submitted by the PPP (SB) party counsel, Manzoor Bhutta. “You kept quiet when you knew about it through the newspapers. You did not wake up until she came and named you by saying ‘if he could be used by me others can also use him.’ “Kamran Khan said he did not know who Maqbool Ahmed was. He said Ms Bhutto had used the tribunal’s platform to say things against him and, therefore, he wanted to reply to her from the same platform, to which the chairman said she had a locus standii, because her brother had been killed and her husband had been arrested in the case.

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  • Aamir Mughal |

    and Murtaza Bhutto. [Simon]

    =========================

    Part – 2

    Here is more for satisfaction

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    Former interior minister Naseerullah Babar paid glowing tributes to Shoaib Suddle for restoring peace in Karachi when in 1994 the Army was withdrawn from the metropolitan city. He said the ISI was involved in the murder of Murtaza Bhutto. He said he had formed a commission to probe against the ISI but pressure was mounted on him and afterwards the inquiry was givenup. He criticized the MQM decision to join forces with the opposition. He said the MQM should join the government for the sake of peace in Karachi. REFERENCE: ‘Bill to cut president down to size this week’ News Desk Monday, April 14, 2008 News Desk http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?I

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    “QUOTE”

    Benazir showed respect when addressing her interior minister. She and the General Sahib liked to engage in intellectual dialogue. Unlike other cabinet ministers, I never saw Babar cringe before his young prime minister. He was in the centre of investigations when Benazirs two brothers were killed. I went to South of France when Shahnawaz died in July 1985. I know exactly what happened and who killed him.

    Why, then, has he not revealed the identity of Shahnawaz’s killers?

    Because I was advised not to go beyond the drawn line, he says. The substance that killed Shahnawaz was used by very few countries. The FBI and the French authorities investigated independently but kept their findings secret because of certain international sensitivities.

    Was dictator Zia behind the act? Perhaps he wanted the Bhuttos wiped out altogether?

    How ironical that 22 years down the road, ZAB’s daughter Benazir should wag a finger at Zia’s remnants who tried killing her in the early hours of October 19! When Ejazul Haq was asked whether he was a suspect in the eyes of Benazir, he merely grinned (just the way his dad used to) and dismissed the allegation as a farce. REFERENCE: Whodunnit? By Anjum Niaz October 28, 2007 [Dawn Magazine]

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    "QUOTE"

    “The tribunal held later in 1997 ruled that Murtaza could not have been killed without approval from the highest echelons of government.” [Justice Retd Nasir Aslam Zahid] Please tell which echelon of the government is highest? Have you seen the movie ‘JFK’ by Oliver Stone if not then please watch it again and again, it will solve many of your puzzles.”Quote”As per Ghazali Book The Fourth Republic Chapter IX While the people speculated about the motives behind the killing of Mir Murtaza Bhutto, Dr. Mubashir Hasan, a former Finance Minister and a founder member of the PPP, was very blunt in his remarks: “For those who have removed Murtaza from our midst, the real problem has been and is Prime Minister Benazir. As long as Murtaza was alive, removing Benazir carried unacceptable risks. Murtaza could take over the mantle of the elder Bhutto’s legend. Else Murtaza and Benazir would be striving for a common cause, separately or jointly. That would have presented formidable political problems. Murtaza gone, the way is clear. Benazir stands perilously weakened. She is the next to go. Such are the brutal pathways of realpolitik.” [Dawn 25.9.1996.]” [For Further Reading UNHCR REPORT ON PAKISTAN OF 1996]

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    • Nazia |

      Mughal

      You people are going in zigzag like details instead of solving the mystery of simple murder on our street.See the facts.

      Bhutto was PM when her brother was killed.

      Her father was PM when awarded death sentence.

      Her husband was president when all who could have been involved in her murder plan either got promotions or achieved top seats in govt places.

      So just like her , her heirs couldnt trace daylight murder and visible murderers of bhuttos even all kind of agencies are under their command.They are filthy rich people they couldnt opt for any kind of private investigations from their strong sources.We all know that army establishment under CIA orders did bhuttos' elimination but all was done through Pakistanis which could be at least trialed.

      Bhutto made this mistake twice.She always talked about bhutto judicial murder but never ever tried to prove in any court of law or in any houses of state.

      That is what Mughal you always demand from visitor like me but you see that even all time rulers of Pakistan couldnt prove it .

      She never adopted legal ways to reach to killers of her family just for making deals of capturing top seat.

      So she herself become victim of her greed and her followers are just following her legacy.

      It is the reason I never considered her a true political leader.She never maneuvered any political movement from grass root level but always focused on getting sympathies on the basis of her feudalistic status,a deadbody and rich background through corrupt deals.

      They all cashed their charismatic personalities polished in western societies to grab the attention of working class too but just for gathering them as show of power through hook and crook means.

      it might be a reason she only selected a typical corrupt feudal character for her marriage as she never thought of declining her status less than it.No matter how much filthy and illiterate character becomes her husband.

      Now get the essence of bhutto legacy, his low rated husband learn the same tact from her way of politics and adopted same way to reach president house and it is by stepping on dead body without thinking that who killed her beloved wife.

      What kind of political friends she had in her life?Just corrupt like her who only waited for top seat and elections for getting ministries on the basis of a fake will.

      If they were not in govt then one could have expect that murderers are out of range of their power but they happily given guard of honor to Musharraf and other generals are fully enjoying their top ranks under PPP govt.

      Bhutto family picked this shortcut brutal path way of politics as they are all time indulged in superiority complex of ruling the land all the time.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Nazia says: April 28, 2010 at 2:52 pm Mughal You people are going in zigzag like details instead of solving the mystery of simple murder on our street. See the facts. Bhutto was PM when her brother was killed.

      =========================

      Wrong again. Why all the key witnesses [except Haq Nawaz Sial – SHO] were killed when Benazir Bhutto was no more in government. Do you think BB OR AAZ were so powerful that they couldn't save their government but had arranged assassination of key witnesses when out of power. Even the proceedings of that case were held during Nawaz and Musharraf Govt. when PPP was out of power. So where is you case???

      ===================

      Agreed to the rest of comment that they should have tried them but did PPP enjoyed 2/3rd Majority in 1988 or in 1993?

    • Nazia |

      Mughal

      The people who comes through deals are bound to restricted agenda.They are all time free to complete the money laundering deals but not allowed to meddle in matters of miltiary,defense budget and foreign policy .So when people have no will/capacity of doing right job, they cant even think of it even you give them 2/3 majority.

      Bhutto had no patience and stamina to drive the masses as a strong resistant leader/She inherited the legacy of his strong father and vote bank on the basis of feudal culture in Sindh.

      Along with this she had flow of money looted from govt treasures for buy and sell business of political cartoons.

      So she had only choice of making deals with army mafias.

      You know better than me that friendship with mafias always lead to abnormal death and that is what Bhutto picked by themselves for ruling the Pakistan .

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Nazia says: – April 28, 2010 at 10:36 pm She inherited the legacy of his strong father and vote bank on the basis of feudal culture in Sindh. Along with this she had flow of money looted from govt treasures for buy and sell business of political cartoons.

      ===============================

      Wrong again and Historically too. If she had the Vote Bank just because of being a Sindhi Feudal then please correct yourself there are many Feudal Lords in Sindh who hold larger landholdings than BB and many amongst them are not even in PPP [i know Sindh better than you]- Lets assume that you are correct then why PPP was voted in Punjab, NWFP and Baluchistan [you can check the Election Records from 1971 to onwards]

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Nazia says: – April 28, 2010 at 10:36 pm = Mughal They are all time free to complete the money laundering deals – Along with this she had flow of money looted from govt treasures for buy and sell business of political cartoons.

      ================================

      Where is the court conviction against her and the only conviction was obtained like this: NRO: Kamran Khan & Dirty Role of Barrister Khalid Anwer. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/01/nro-kamr

      I was in service when Ghulam Ishaq Khan filed references against Benazir and AAZ and within three years GIK accepted AAZ as Caretaker Minister and Messenger Boy was so-called Anti NRO Roedad Khan.

    • Al |

      Aamir Mughal: You are not implying that Benazir & AAZ live like they live through honestly earned money?

      So what that they haven't ever been convicted of money laundering. That is only because the military establishment likes it this way. It is so much easier to control a corrupt politician then an honest one. They just use the corruption cases as a hanging sword over the heads of the politicians with never the aim to prosecute to the logical conclusion.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: – April 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm – Aamir Mughal: You are not implying that Benazir & AAZ live like they live through honestly earned money?

      ==============================

      Innocent unless proven guilty. If we start convicting people on the basis of cases and FIR then let me give you only one example.

      "MQM Leaders Ishtiaq Azher [age 70 years] and Shoaib Bukhari [age 55 years] got down from 2K [A Bus Route number in Karachi] and sprinkled gasoline on the bus on Fire, then they sprinkled Petrol on "Mizrab Cinema – Liaquatabad Karachi" and set that Cinema on fire as well and when Police Party Approached the resort to fire directly at the police party and escaped while firing in the air"

      I don't know if you have seen both the leaders or not but they could see clearly beyond 10 feet. A policeman had beaten Shoaib Bukhari so mercilessly that his eye was permanently damaged.

      Now you can imagine whatever you like. BB and AAZ were not Billionaire but they were not pauper either AAZ used to live in a House behind Avari Towers Karachi [EI Lines] since 60s and that place was built by his father in 60s.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: – April 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm That is only because the military establishment likes it this way. It is so much easier to control a corrupt politician then an honest one. They just use the corruption cases as a hanging sword over the heads of the politicians with never the aim to prosecute to the logical conclusion.

      =========================

      So why there aren't any cases against the Politicians mentioned in the post [with bibliography]: Lies of Ghulam Mustafa Khar, General [R] Faiz Ali Chishti & Mehran Bank Scandal. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/04/lies-of-

      All are equal but some are equal. Like President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) supposedly remarked in 1939 that "Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch.

    • Al |

      @Aamir Mughal: Kiya kehne he aap ke. Itni meherbani Iftikhar Chaudhry par bhi kar deejay that innocent until proven guilty.

      I didn't say AAZ & Benazir were paupers but they were certainly not as rich as they are now – not even close. In fact you yourself admit that there are much larger land owners in Sind than Bhutto ever was. None of the landowners enjoy the lifestyle that Mr. AAZ does or the late Benazir did. And that means NONE.

      Running a political party is no cheap business. And Benazir was a full time politician as is AAZ. Now either they used to grow hard cash on their lands or they had discovered a gold mine or struck oil because otherwise it doesn't explain how they were growing richer and richer while 'serving' the people full time.

      And if you will now say that AAZ was a businessmen & earned all of this money through businesses then i would advice you not to challenge our sanity. You certainly cannot make this kind of money running cinemas & small time construction companies & car dealerships. And on top of that spending 8 years in jail & still making so much money. mujhe bhi bata de kaunsa aisa business he.

      Innocent until proven guilty my ass. If this was such honestly earned money why did both Benazir & AAZ keep denying that they had bought the Surrey Palace for 10 years & then when the judge ordered that the property be sold since no owner was willing to come forth to claim it, they suddenly accepted that it was their property? To me this is enough to prove that they are guilty. I don't need a court to tell me this. Of course they cannot be punished until convicted by a court but in my eyes & in the eyes of all objective people this is definitely illegally made money.

      Your bias is pretty evident even though you constantly deny that you don't support the PPP or AAZ.

      And if you quote the corruption of MQM, PML-N or other politicians, then please tell us how does that prove AAZ's innocence? If Nawaz Sharif & Altaf Hussain are also involved in corruption then does that mean that AAZ also has a right to be corrupt?

      If the media & our establishment seem to be biased against only AAZ while ignoring the corruption of others then that also does not mean that AAZ is innocent & it proves nothing.

      You generally come across as an objective person. Please extend your objectivity to all persons whether you support them or not.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: April 29, 2010 at 10:58 am @Aamir Mughal:

      Kiya kehne he aap ke. Itni meherbani Iftikhar Chaudhry par bhi kar deejay that innocent until proven guilty.

      ===================

      CJ Ifti: Oath under PCO not once but twice. You decide!

      In fact you yourself admit that there are much larger land owners in Sind than Bhutto ever was. None of the landowners enjoy the lifestyle that Mr. AAZ does or the late Benazir did. And that means NONE.

      MAM: G M Jatoi, Peer Pagar, Nawab Sultan Chandio, Ayub Khoro [Uncle of Nisar Khoro], Mehers of Ghotki and Sukkur and others were far richer then Bhuttos ever were but they lack finesse in Life Style and blame their non appearance in the media to the lack of coverage whereas BB and AAZ were extensively covered.

      And if you quote the corruption of MQM, PML-N or other politicians, then please tell us how does that prove AAZ’s innocence? If Nawaz Sharif & Altaf Hussain are also involved in corruption then does that mean that AAZ also has a right to be corrupt?

      MAM: I never quoted anything against MQM and Nawaz Sharif's Corruption so far.

      If the media & our establishment seem to be biased against only AAZ while ignoring the corruption of others then that also does not mean that AAZ is innocent & it proves nothing.

      MAM: That also means that such stories are often planted and without any proof and that is not fair play.

      You generally come across as an objective person. Please extend your objectivity to all persons whether you support them or not.

      MAM: You can check the details of Cases against the couple on my blog.

    • Al |

      @Amir Mughal: So you are basically saying that BB & AAZ have class that is why everybody & his uncle is jealous of them & that is why everyone accuses them of corruption. Please don't joke with us. You can do better then this.

      And to begin with i was not talking about conviction by a court. I was talking about what you believed whether he was really innocent & all this lifestyle was through honestly earned money. Iftikhar Chaudhary broke the constitution by taking oath on the PCO but he has also never been convicted by any court. Its you & me who know that he is just as guilty. In the same breadth Musharraf has never been convicted by any court so is he innocent as well? If BB & AAZ really had honestly earned money, why in the world would they ever deny that they didn't own the Surrey Palace? Denying it for 10 years & then when the court decides to auction the property suddenly claiming that you actually own it is guilty enough for me whether any court convicts them or not. This is like being caught with your pants down.

      I maintain that the military establishment really doesn't want to pursue these corruption cases to their logical conclusion. It is much much easier on their part to control an AAZ or a Sharif then deal with an honest politician.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: – April 30, 2010 at 9:39 am @Amir Mughal: So you are basically saying that BB & AAZ have class that is why everybody & his uncle is jealous of them & that is why everyone accuses them of corruption. Please don’t joke with us. You can do better then this.

      =====================

      Dear A1,

      His uncle Mumtaz Bhutto betrayed the Bhutto and also betrayed BB and guess what he joined hands with Laghari as a Caretaker CM Sindh. I had posted the link above on Khar and there is an interview of Bhutto's lawyer on that with BBC watch that interview and many things would be clear. Lies of Ghulam Mustafa Khar, General [R] Faiz Ali Chishti & Mehran Bank Scandal. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/04/lies-of-

      A1: And to begin with i was not talking about conviction by a court. I was talking about what you believed whether he was really innocent & all this lifestyle was through honestly earned money.

      MAM: 60% Honest and 40% hanky panky. And from 1988 till 2010 the Trial Courts were not Impartial [Malik Qayum-Khalid Anwer-Saifur Rehman's Conversation with Judge for fixing the sentence/trial reported all over the world in 2001]. Tragedy of our country that Pirzada was pleading against NRO and defending government on Bureaucrats Seniority/Promotion and this very "Treachery and Double Standard" has ruined this country e.g. a lady prosecutor was hired by General Amjad in 1999 [she was and still is King Maker] to prosecute "corrupt" and guess what she was in the panel of Defending Farooquis. I say book everybody by giving them Fair Trial and till the proceedings are on the "Press Reporting like the way our Press exploit" should be prohibited. I was never against trying AAZ and BB but what I saw during my career was nothing but a face, they held trial in such way that they themselves turned both Political Heroes and this should end If you talk of Fair Play and Across the Board Justice.

      A1: Iftikhar Chaudhary broke the constitution by taking oath on the PCO but he has also never been convicted by any court.

      MAM: What about committing Treason i.e. Violating Article 6 of 1973 Constitution [legalizing Martial Law of Musharraf]. Do you think one needs "Court Conviction" for open Treason which was widely reported in the Press. If the PCO of Dogar was wrong then PCO of Ifti was wrong as well and that is called Fair Play.

      A1: Its you & me who know that he is just as guilty. In the same breadth Musharraf has never been convicted by any court so is he innocent as well?

      MAM: Sir, Toppling an Elected Government [no matter how bad but Nawaz Govt. was far better than Martial Law of Musharraf] is a Treason and Ifti and co made this Legal.

      I rest my case.

    • Al |

      @Amir Mughal: Why do you keep referring to me as MAM? I am a guy.

      Regarding Mumtaz Bhutto, what does it have anything to do with AAZ & BB being guilty of corruption or not. Hiding behind the bias & partiality of courts is a common refrain used by both BB & AAZ as well as Nawaz Sharif.

      And again this is also a common refrain that unless accountability is across the board it shouldn't be there. This basically guarantees that there will never be any accountability.

      You don't have to rest your case. I know Iftikhar Chaudhary broke the constitution as did Musharraf. But until a court convicts them they do not automatically get the death sentence. When talking about the trial of Musharraf again the common refrain is that all those that have broken the constitution should also be tried. Something that will ensure that no one is ever tried. It is not possible to try everyone at the same time.

      So i suggest that AAZ & BB apologists like yourself should not hide behind these common refrains.

      There is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest that AAZ & BB were involved in massive corruption. Again hiding behind the facts that Sharifs are also corrupt, or that Mumtaz Bhutto betrayed them, or Leghari betrayed them doesn't really prove any point.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: April 30, 2010 at 3:35 pm @Amir Mughal: Why do you keep referring to me as MAM? I am a guy.

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      Sir, read the posts again, you are A1 and I am addressing myself as Muhammad Aamir Mughal [MAM] to differentiate between query and answer:)

      A1: Regarding Mumtaz Bhutto, what does it have anything to do with AAZ & BB being guilty of corruption or not.

      MAM: Cases were registered against the couple when Laghari was President and Mumtaz was CM.

      A1: This basically guarantees that there will never be any accountability.

      MAM: Musharraf had that opportunity and people were really looking for an accountability but the opportunity was lost because Musharraf had excluded Army and Judiciary from any kind of accountability on the plea that both the institutions have built in check and balance. [is there ???]

      A1: I know Iftikhar Chaudhary broke the constitution as did Musharraf. But until a court convicts them they do not automatically get the death sentence.

      MAM: Army and Musharraf broke the Constitution and Judiciary that included Ifti legalized it therefore those who lecture [Judiciary] should take a deep breath and look within their own selves.

      A1: There is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suggest that AAZ & BB were involved in massive corruption.

      MAM: Evidence like in the case where the trial was fixed [saif-qayyum-khalid anwer] and when shit hit the fan they sack the judges and as per NAB/SBP AND HBL Record [it is official] the bench that passed the sentence against BB had the judges who were given Loans in Millions and they defaulted as well. Check the newspapers of 1999/2000 regarding those Judges the news was published in Dawn and it's eveninger Star. General Amjad made a phone call to the Star and Dawn and was asking about the source of the news whereas the source was Bank's Sheets. Here goes your across the board accountability.

    • Al |

      @Amir Mughal: My mistake on the MAM thing.

      Again, because Mumtaz Bhutto had an axe to grind with AAZ & BB, does this make them innocent?

      To your point about Musharraf, like i have repeated a couple of times already, the military establishment never seriously wants to pursue corruption cases against these politicians to their logical conclusion. If Musharraf had seriously & honestly pursued the corruption cases would he be in a position to deal with BB in 2007 in the face of his drastically falling popularity graph & would he have been able to make a deal with her to save his own ass?

      The corruption cases are a hanging sword on the heads of these politicians which the establishment uses from time to time to keep them in check.

      Why one should ask it is that Sharif & AAZ who do not leave any opportunity to remind us that they are fighting with their lives for democracy not meddle in defence, foreign policy & internal security issues? Why does AAZ & the PPP not assert himself over the military & tell them that foreign policy should be the prerogative of the elected leadership?

      Because of only one reason. He has the corruption cases hanging over his head which keeps him & other politicians like him in line.

      And your example of this specific trial again does not prove anything. I said circumstantial & anecdotal evidence. That may mean it is not necessarily admissible in a court of law but it does point to the fact that AAZ & BB were involved in corruption. An honest person would not seek the 'chor darwaza' that both of them have been seeking like the NRO or 'presidential immunity'. To the contrary he would be worried enough to clear his name in the courts as soon as possible. He would not be submitting false reports from doctors declaring himself mentally unfit to appear in court like AAZ was doing for the past decade. He would not lie to the entire nation that he had nothing to do with the Surrey Palace only to accept it later on.

      I don't care if the media & establishment have a bias against AAZ & target him more then they target others. He is still guilty.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: – April 30, 2010 at 6:43 pm Again, because Mumtaz Bhutto had an axe to grind with AAZ & BB, does this make them innocent?

      MAM: When people like Khar, Pirzada, Jam Sadiq Ali, and Mumtaz Bhutto are Accountability then even the most notorious Dacoit would be considered innocent. Accountability is done by those who are respected in Society not by thugs.

      A1:Why does AAZ & the PPP not assert himself over the military & tell them that foreign policy should be the prerogative of the elected leadership?

      MAM: Remember Kargil, and when recently the ISI was being put under the Civilians then the so-called Journalists and Editors (Mahmood Sham, Kamran Khan and Ansar Abbasi [who were raising hell against ISI during Musharraf] raised hell against the Civilian Government.

      A1: He is still guilty.

      MAM: I differ. [Only my opinion]

    • Al |

      @Amir Mughal: Anyone can disagree with the statement that AAZ is guilty of corruption but it doesn't really stand in the face of reason, personal biases aside.

      You can find people who will vouch for Nawaz Sharif in a similar fashion brushing aside common sense & hiding behind the fact that courts are biased against them.

      If you would say that AAZ is corrupt but in this he is no different from other politicians i can agree with you.

      If it was me who had bought the Surrey Palace from my honestly earned money, i would have told everyone making a fuss over it to go fu.. themselves & openly declare that i had bought the property. I wouldn't lie. But if i had stolen the money or earned it through corruption, i would definitely lie & try to hide the fact. It is as simple as that.

      I agree that the media seems to be obsessed more with AAZ's corruption stories & often ignores Nawaz Sharif & his equally dirty record. I guess the apartments that Nawaz Sharif owns in London are more expensive than the Surrey Palace, but no one questions him on that.

      However, this does not prove AAZ's innocence. I know that in this country accountability can never be done across the board so if we keep waiting for that we will never have accountability.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Al says: – May 1, 2010 at 2:27 pm @Amir Mughal:

      If you would say that AAZ is corrupt but in this he is no different from other politicians i can agree with you.

      MAM: That was my point. Why AAZ alone?

      I agree that the media seems to be obsessed more with AAZ’s corruption stories & often ignores Nawaz Sharif & his equally dirty record.

      MAM: That was my point and please include the Brazen and Ruthless Looters i.e. Generals and Civil Bureaucrats.

  • TheAngrez |

    Daughter of the East, educated in the west, lived in the west, whose wealth and properties were in the west, was brought by the west for the illitrates of the east.

    What was this daughter of East doing during her time away from the east??? Begging and convincing the west that she could do more than Musharraf.

    She didn't come until she got blessings from the show runners.

    She didn't come until the Establishment under Musharraf repealed the law which forbade any one who had the position of PM twice from running for the third time.

    Pakistani constitution and laws are made to serve the elites, be it BB, Zardari, Kiyani or Nawaz.

    If it was not the opposition show run by the lawyers and Justice Iftikhar, she wouldn't have met such a warm welcome. She hijacked the opposition started by the lawyers.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      If it was not the opposition show run by the lawyers and Justice Iftikhar, she wouldn’t have met such a warm welcome. She hijacked the opposition started by the lawyers.

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      But there is one problem that Athar Minallah the Chief Spokesman for the CJ during Lawyers Movement also served in Musharraf's Martial Law Cabinet and a Jiyala Aitzaz was a leading light of Lawyers Movement so the Movement was already hijacked by many to settle their respective political agendas and political goals.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      TheAngrez says: – April 27, 2010 at 8:52 am – Daughter of the East, educated in the west, lived in the west, whose wealth and properties were in the west, was brought by the west for the illitrates of the east. What was this daughter of East doing during her time away from the east??? Begging and convincing the west

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      Where did Jinnah and Iqbal got their education?

      Begging and Convincing the West: 'Honour' of Pakistan & A Timeline of U.S. Aid to Pakistan. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/10/honour-o

    • TheAngrez |

      Amir Mughal,

      Unlike BB, Qaide Azam and Allama Iqbal didn't beg the Masters that they would server them better than Musharraf.

      This champion of democracy never had democracy in their own party, called as PPP.

      Daughter of the East was just like son of the east "Hamid Karzai"…

      She thought she had the blessings of the biggest DONS but she forgot that in the land of her father their other many many more DONS.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      The Angrez says: April 28, 2010 at 6:22 am Amir Mughal, – was just like son of the east “Hamid Karzai”…

      ===================

      Dear Brother,

      Hamid Karzai is one of our own and used to serve as Foreign Minister of Afghan Mujahideen Government. – He also served as deputy foreign minister [Pakistani Establishment Backed and concocted Afghan government] in the Afghan government from 1992 to 1994 after the mujahedeen defeated the Soviets.

      Richard Holbrooke, USA, Taliban, Karzai, Zalmay Khalilzad & Narcotics http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/07/richard-

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Unlike BB, Qaide Azam and Allama Iqbal didn’t beg the Masters that they would server them better than Musharraf.

      =====================

      My comment were related with their Education in West and Pakistan name was suggested by Chaudhry Rehamt Ali [correct me if i am wrong] and tell me where he is buried.

    • Nazia |

      There is clear difference of class among characters like Jinnah, Iqbal and Bhutto.

      Bhuotto were custodian of brutal background to sustain their lord like status on lower developed area.

      Jinnah was representative of working and educated class.

      Iqbal belong to lower middle class.

      But all followed the orders of masters to control masses as per desires of western interest.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Nazia says: – April 28, 2010 at 3:26 pm – Jinnah, Iqbal and Bhutto. But all followed the orders of masters to control masses as per desires of western interest.

      ==========================

      Since Bhutto is controversial I won't defend him but I didn't know that your alleged Circle also gossip that Jinnah and Iqbal were also good for nothing. So why don't wind up this contraption Pakistan once and for all. Do you have any proof against Jinnah or Iqbal.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      :) I just provided the info. You can analyse and apprise the info and discard what is not relevant. I just wanted to share the experience with all of you and I haven't stopped anybody to post comment.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      In the same stride, the nation must also know who murdered national leaders like the death of Jinnah and his sister, Liaqat Ali, Bhutto, Zia Ul Haq and Murtaza Bhutto. [simon]

      ==================

      @Roda.

      Everybody is worried about knowing as to who is behind the murder of the personalities above. What about "Ordinary Human Being" – Innocent Pakistani Citizens" who are mercilessly mowed down by "unknown gunmen" in drive by shooting riding in "White High Roof or White Charade" since 1986

      I hope someday, someone will rise and expose those who during General Zia’s days ruthlessly butchered innocent Punjabis, Urdu Speaking, Sindhis and Pashtuns in Riots. Someone must expose those who were behind the massacre of innocent people of Hyderabad in 1988 [more than 200 innocent people died] and then the very next day another ethnic [more than 90 innocent persons were dead] group was targeted in Karachi to create ethnic unrest amongst people of different walk of life though having different political thoughts. Hamid Gul and Imtiaz were incharge of Internal Security those days, least said is better. One clue, a mysterious white colour Charade/White High Roof Suzuki carried out massacre in almost every location.

      "QUOTE"

      ‘شریف النفس’

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/urdu/2009/11/post_544….

      ا۔ ڈاکوؤں کیساتھ حکومت کے یہ مذاکرات کیٹی جتوئی کے ریسٹ ہاؤس سے خفیہ فوجی ایجنسی کے ایک کرنل اور ایک میجر کی نگرانی میں ہوئے تھے۔

      چينی انجنیئروں کو اغوا کرنے والا ڈاکو لائق چانڈیو اس سے قبل ان سندھی قوم پرستوں اور جانو آرائيں سمیت ڈاکوؤں کیساتھ مل کر حیدرآباد سندھ میں تیس ستمبر انیس سو اٹھاسی کے قتل عام میں شامل رہا تھا جس میں تین سو افراد قتل کیے گئے تھے۔ اس کارروائی کا مقصد ملک میں اعلان شدہ وہ عام انتخابات ملتوی کروانے تھے جو ضیا الحق کی موت کے بعد ہونے تھے۔

      کہتے ہیں کہ جانو آرائیں کیٹی جتوئی کی زمینوں پر کبھی منشی رہا تھا۔ لیکن انتخابات ملتوی نہیں ہوسکے تھے۔ ان اتنخابات میں علام مصطفی جتوئی اپنے آبائي حلقے سے بھی ہار گئے تھے۔ لیکن بعد میں انیس سو نوے میں انہیں نگران وزیر اعظم بنایا گیا اور انہوں نے بعد میں کھلے عام اعتراف کیا تھا کہ نوے کے انتخابات میں بڑے پیمانے پر سرکاری سطح پر دھاندھلیاں ہوئی تھیں۔

  • TheAngrez |

    May Democracy be your protector,

    Would your blessors bless you there?

    Your assurances brought you no peace,

    Their assurances brought you no peace,

    Its not democracy that you practiced,

    its the kinship you inherited

    and persisted

    You can fool the fools,

    but honestly

    did you practice democracy in your team?

  • Masoom_Awam |

    kabhee kai din barey

    aur kabhee kee raaat

    jhotee dukhtar-e-mashriq nai

    kiey thai kaee gharr barbaaad

    establishment kee gaud main,

    bohat thaa taqaaat kaa guman,

    yai to makafat-e-amal hai,

    mairee jaaaan,

    kal jis establishment kai sath,

    kiey tumney laaal haaath,

    aaj waqt badlaa hai sayyad,

    bohat khoon hain apkey hath,

    Abb pohnchee hain aap wahan,

    nahee jahan

    Surrey kai dar o deewar

    ek ek jhoot, ek ek qatal

    ek ek maqtool, ek ek swaal

    sabb poochaa jaey jaa jnaab,

    bohat khaee hai aapn nai,

    saaam-raaaj keee thaaal,

    sabb hogaa abb hisaaab,

    nahee chalteee wahan

    democracy keee chaaal,

    naa nasab chaltaa hai,

    naa aaal, naaa maaaaal,

    utaree jaatee hai wahan,

    Zalimon keee khaaaal

  • Nazia |

    Mughal

    Get the facts from oil to food program where she did partnership with filthy character of rehman malik.

    In her 2nd tenure she did massive corruption through defense and power deals.

    Those days my few relatives were her right hand men.

    You have already told that miltiary men intentionally favor the corrupt political characters to keep them in snare of greed.That is what I am saying you that no one could put scandals of huge corruption on ZA bhutto but she earned this status because of her targets.Her close friends justify her acts as she thought that without money she couldnt win the paid elections in our system.

    I have already told you that is was charisma of bhutto's strong leagcy on weak people which she carried as vote bank secondly she was always returned thorough deals so ISI election cell had turned the table toward her side.

    Remember once in Peshawar 1 constituency she won by 40000 votes but in 2 years she lost this areas and left only few thousand supporters there.

    So where the ghost voters disappeared.

    PPP voters cant go for JI or ANP but it is happened only in Pakistan that in two or three years voters disappears from the scenes.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Reference. Check mine I talk through reference whenever I condemn somebody. ISI Election Cell has always played trick against PPP. You think I am born yesterday because Case against ISI (HRC 19/96) is still pending in Supreme Court. No problem if you don't like PPP, BB or AAZ but don't lie on the matter which is quite open for everybody like you have above in the case of ISI.

    • Jibran |

      Aamir Mughal,

      Yeaahhh, If PPP got the majority then ISI didn't manipulate the mandate. ISI only maniuplates when PPP wins.

      You and your crooked party of thugs called as PPP, just like any other looser.

      Blame it on others if you loose.

      If ISI has been meddling with votes then how come BB was Prime Minister for two times?

      You are like those Looseez who cry of fould play when others do it and when your party does it, it becomes legit.

      No wonder the murderer is our President and all the thugs are busy minting money.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Jibran says: – April 29, 2010 at 5:41 am Aamir Mughal,

      Yeaahhh, If PPP got the majority then ISI didn’t manipulate the mandate. ISI only maniuplates when PPP wins. If ISI has been meddling with votes then how come BB was Prime Minister for two times?

      =====================

      Dear Jibran,

      Still the PPP doesn't have the Two Third Majority of its own like in the past they have formed the Coalition Government. If I am lying then what is this Mehran Bank Scam and why it is pending in the Court of Law.

    • Al |

      I agree with Aamir Mughal on this that the establishment has been meddling in elections for a long time. The facts of the Mehran Bank scandal are before all of us & have appeared in newspapers as well.

      In fact Gen. Hameed Gul has openly admitted on television that he was involved in election rigging & he somehow was justifying it by giving some twisted arguments.

      Generally the establishment has sided with anti-ppp forces because it did not trust the Bhuttos. But i think the present establishment has realized that AAZ is a much more pliable politician then Nawaz Sharif. AAZ has been smart in that he has kept away from meddling in foreign affairs, defence & internal security issues. Where he crossed a line he was very quick to retreat like on the nuclear first strike issue or sending the ISI chief to India issue. That is just my opinion but i think it is supported by quite a lot of anecdotal evidence.

  • Abrar |

    Dr. Awab,

    I am a frequent visitor to your blogs and have often observed you highlighting the issues faced by different Pakistanis-all over Pakistan.

    What I really miss is a blog condemning the murder of professors and teachers in Baluchistan. BLA has been target killing different teachers based on their ethnic backgrounds.

    When would we rise to defend our teachers? the silent population who contineously works hard to educate and thus build Pakistan.

    Here is one more:
    http://ejang.jang.com.pk/4-29-2010/pic.asp?picnam

    This teacher and others who are target killed in Baluchistan are not my relatives and nor have they taught me any thing. But I sincerely respect this profession and I request you to please raise the voice against this brutal target killing.

    Thanks and regards,

    One Pakistani

  • MB |

    Well come on guys !!

    Its evident that PPP and MUSH had a deal (and guaranteed by USA/UK/Sheikh saheb) and BB, when she came back and saw MUSH had lost people support and people was as alive as ever, decided to back-off from the deal and then the Pindi powers did what they do the best.

    I mean, from the series of events , is this difficult to understand? This "crime scene kis ne dhoya or kis ne order kia" is nonsense PLUS that zardari statement in which he has pointed fingers on TALIBAN.

    Everyone knows ISI still has strong links with PART of TALIBAN factions. Its so easy for ISI to get the work done by through TALIBAN, while keeping the PLANNING part at their side.

    Zardari is making himself a fool when he is blaming the gun. He better have guts to name the people behind the gun.

    • Jeeman |

      Its wasn't PPP as alive as ever, it was the opposition movement started by CH Iftikhar and the lawyers. Sentiments against Musharraf were at peak when BB arrived.

      In a way, BB hijacked the opposition started by others yet BB wanted to reap the benefits.

      Big *CHEY* were those who died in those bomb blasts, except for their families, nobody else cares for them, MARGAEY MARDOOD, NAA DOAA NA DUROOOD.

  • Nazia |

    A1

    You say establishment but I say it is vested interest of army mafias under CIA that controls the elections results in most areas of Pakistan.

    PPP this win2008 was planned in Dubai under master mind planning of Musharraf and kiayni master mind planning and they had agreed to bhutto's win and whole political system had to swap over Q league as they had been out of good books of army or you can say enough was awarded to political cartoons of q leagues.

    Because of this reason chaudrys were lost even in their own constituency as kiyani had with drawled ISI support to crows of q leagues.

    In this war on terror which is actually like a business deals of army mafia,they could t afford the political up risen of public that was growing more than expectation under lawyer's movement.So they preferred to accommodate used cards of Pakistan politics as they know them well to core of their previous scandals.

    So bhutto didnt miss this chance of occupying top seat again wihtout any effort and she thought that by taking attention of people at the time of extreme terrorism and lawyer's movement in Pakistan she could win the top seat again.

    That is why I think that her welcome blast was done by her consent with local ISI group to sacrifice few hundred for creating situation of self pity and getting attention of international media,

    I had seen extreme calmness her face soon after the attack which usually lacks in person who directly face and hear such kind of huge explosions.

    The way planted bOmb was exploded when she was near to one of exits of sharaih faisal strengthen my point of view as if it happens just kilometers away, she couldnt cross that road for hours as whole road was jammed due to dispersed bodies and damaged vehicles.

    Another factor which enhances my suspicion is extra ordinary international coverage and huge money was spent from PPP account to get projection of this event.I was out of country at that moments and watched that all international channels cover this blast for more than 3 hours which is very unusual for country like Pakistan.

    Where went wrong between her and Musharraf team after that time was not clear but zardari factor is very dominant in her murder plan

    It was job of PPP workers to show their love for their leader by tracing the footsteps of her real murders.So if they are not who else can think of it as waste of time.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Nazia says: – April 29, 2010 at 4:01 pm A1 – That is why I think that her welcome blast was done by her consent with local ISI group to sacrifice few hundred for creating situation of self pity and getting attention of international media,

      =======================

      Reference and proof???

  • Nazia |

    Mughal

    Allah kay banday

    I am not a spy master but just a poor observant of an event witnessed thoroughly.

    This is all my personal observations as I mentioned.

    Bhutto was not a person with expressionless face.See her picture when her brother and father was killed.

    Compare her face when she was leaving the truck for fast track exit while her whole jiyalas were burning and dying around her truck.

    I have witnessed a blast from half miles, it somehow change the chemistry of human mind and behaviour for hours.

    One cant think of even moving when you heard this blast near to you.If you see deadbodies and people dying you start reacting abnormally.My three family men who are in police and army were directly hit by blast happened in critical areas.After years they are not coming out sound phobia of blast and its aftereffects.

    But she behaved like normal persons.Instead of keeping eye on injured and effectees she was busy in press meetings to further expose this blast to get attention of international forums.

    If her murder was planned on dec then why karachi event was missed where she went inside of truck just before moments of planted device.

    THere after first blast she told naheed khan that she shouldn't moved as second blast was coming ahead and it happened too.

    So all are dying but queen of dirty politics got an easy escape route by stepping over dead bodies of poor followers who were mostly gathered around her on desire of token money and food like incentives.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Nazia says: – April 30, 2010 at 12:27 am

      If her murder was planned on dec then why karachi event was missed

      =========================

      Death is in Hands of ALLAH.

    • Nazia |

      Mughal

      You say

      death is in hand of Allah

      and your see all around us that We are rich in bullet riddle bodies, scattered pieces of human flesh through drone and missile attacks on our people , piles of bodies after target bombing or suicidal attack and returning coffins of our young soldiers.

      You think that col khawaja who found dead in Miranshah was aware ofthis Allah's will whose death is being claimed by a group calling themselves the "Asian Tigers", while he was busy filming a documentary about Colonel Imam.

      Introduction of col imam

      From wikiepedia

      Colonel Imam was invited to the White House by the then President George Bush Sr, and was given a piece of the Berlin Wall with a brass plaque inscribed: "To the one who dealt the first blow." Today, western intelligence agencies believe Imam is among a group of renegade officers from Pakistan's ISI who continued to help the Taliban after Pakistan turned against them following the attacks of 911.

      His strong belief was reported here and might be reason of his removal from past crimes scene.

      Taliban will never be defeated: 'Col Imam'
      http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-

  • Jeeman |

    Sorry Mr Shair, I will take the liberty to repost your poem withou your permission……

    kabhee kai din barey

    aur kabhee kee raaat

    jhotee dukhtar-e-mashriq nai

    kiey thai kaee gharr barbaaad

    establishment kee gaud main,

    bohat thaa taqaaat kaa guman,

    yai to makafat-e-amal hai,

    mairee jaaaan,

    kal jis establishment kai sath,

    kiey tumney laaal haaath,

    aaj waqt badlaa hai sayyad,

    bohat khoon hain apkey hath,

    Abb pohnchee hain aap wahan,

    nahee jahan

    Surrey kai dar o deewar

    ek ek jhoot, ek ek qatal

    ek ek maqtool, ek ek swaal

    sabb poochaa jaey jaa jnaab,

    bohat khaee hai aapn nai,

    saaam-raaaj keee thaaal,

    sabb hogaa abb hisaaab,

    nahee chalteee wahan

    democracy keee chaaal,

    naa nasab chaltaa hai,

    naa aaal, naaa maaaaal,

    utaree jaatee hai wahan,

    Zalimon keee khaaaal

    ——————

  • Nazia |

    Now your all logic and investigation techniques are gone vanished and you put all matters in the hands of Allah.

    As a Muslim we all are stick to this faith but here I add a little that in premises of Pakistan, situation is little bit of different just because of our weaknesses and here along with Allah, army and America all corporate with each other to take the life whom they want.

    Do you think that my all observations are wrong in this matter.She didn't think of returning back to country unless received guarantee and surety of her life from hidden powers working in Pakistan .Even she was contacted with inner core of taliban groups to ensure that they wouldn't attack on her during her short cut like election campaign .

    We are really nation of fools that is why all time dramas are created by ruling groups over our dead bodies .There is no difference on mentality of our army and majority of politicians from feudal backgrounds as both politicized their duties on human emotions and majority of population still consider them as saviors or heroes of nation.

    Today our army has declared 30 april as day for martyrs.Token awards and verbal praises will be showered on those who gave life on the line of duty without knowing that how many among them got benefits from such forced wars.

    Really our love for our army and strong political leaders has become curse or punishment for whole nation and the song of rahat fateh ali khan "piyar ha ya saza " actually fits on our sentiments for both power houses.

    • Aamir Mughal |

      Now your all logic and investigation techniques are gone vanished and you put all matters in the hands of Allah. [Nazia]

      =========================

      I talked of Allah in the context of your statement below and mind you one attempt on BB was in NWFP that was also missed.

      Nazia says: – April 30, 2010 at 12:27 am – If her murder was planned on dec then why karachi event was missed.

    • Nazia |

      To whom you would condemn such deaths.

      In front of army or govt of Pakistan who are actually facilitating such activities to get dollars on the name of strategic dialogs.These killings are need of time and Intelligence officers should know their status and value of life in this country under corrupt bosses.

      He worked under orders of gen hameed and gen aslam beg.

      Both had proudly come to his funeral.

      Both have enjoyed whole life in their so called palaces and luxurious life styles and khwaja like officers are removed from scene to clear the crime scenes of past done under these generals.

    • Umer |

      Nazia,

      How do you know if he was murdered to cleanse the crimes of the past or the crimes being committed today?

      He surely made to the list of personnel killed by our own Army.

      – Jamshed Gulzar Kiyani

      – Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir

      According to investigative journalist Gerald Posner, the death of Mushaf Ali Mir was not an accident but an act of sabotage. The author claims in his book Why America Slept: The Failure to Prevent 9/11, that Osama bin Laden struck a deal with Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) through Mushaf Ali Mir in 1996 to get protection, arms and supplies for al-Qaeda. The meeting was blessed by the Saudi's through Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Saud, the then intelligence chief. However, after the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001, and reversal of Pakistani and Saudi stances favoring Taliban and al-Qaeda, the three Saudi princes associated with the deals died within days and seven months after that Mushaf Ali Mir's plane crashed near the Pakistan-Afghan border. Prince Turki bin Faisal, on the other hand was removed as intelligence chief and sent as Ambassador to United Kingdom during the same time.[4]

      source: http://www.wikipedia.com

    • Al |

      @Umer: There is just one little problem with your nice conspiracy theory. The House of Saud has been Enemy No. 1 for Osama Bin Laden for quite some time. Why in the world would they arm & finance him when one of his stated aims is the overthrow the Saudi regime?

      He was jailed in Saudi Arabia & actually escaped to Pakistan & then Afghanistan by convincing a Saudi Prince he knew personally to let him go to Pakistan on the promise that he would not run away. Why would the Saudi Government then turn and start financing him?

      Secondly, America was itself involved in financing & arming these people. So Pakistan need not worry about killing people to hide its involvement. Everyone knows who was backing whom.

      Third, people dream up Al-Qaeda to be much bigger & influential then it actually was & is- one of the reasons is the propaganda of the US where it has everyone believing that it actually launched a war on an entire country half the world away & is spending hundreds of billions of dollars just to catch a few individuals riding horses & motorbikes & hiding in caves.

    • Nazia |

      Omer

      you need official statement about this cleansing process of taliban representatives worked as an ex ISI officer so try to see this link.

      Our sajada nasheen foreign minister is claiming all this in front of international media without thinking that ex ISI chief is now our COAS.

      Pakistan: ISI cleansed, restructuring on
      http://www.ndtv.com/news/videos/video_player.php?…

      One WHO knows the miltiary politics of Pakistan is clear that no way such fake political characters can dare to even think like that eg asking ISI chief about activities of ISI within or outside Pakistan.

    • Nazia |

      Umer

      shuhudas have gone we have lost our jewels in the worst planning of army mafia.Nazeer naji is just pleasing this mafia by writing absolute ways of praising the typical icons for nothing.I have many times quoted that our ISPR is not coming to reality of this information revolution and trying to control the masses just they did in last failures.

      Recent youm e shahuda is nothing more than emotional marketing of sentiments of old parents, young widows and innocent orphans.

      No compensation or fake passions can protect them from coming difficulties specially in the lives of young widows and kids.

      So instead of wasting time to such paid journalist one should review the hard core journalists who actually belong to those areas and who are all time risking their lives for exposing truths.

      Swat: What Next? BY: Rahimullah Yousafzai
      http://pakhtunkhwatimes.blogspot.com/2009/02/swat

      or from dawn pages date may 20 2007

      Journalist’s harassment

      THE beating up of the journalist Shakil Turabi in Islamabad on Friday is a reminder of the dangers journalists continue to face in the country. Mr Turabi is chief editor of the South Asian News Agency and believes that he was picked up by intelligence men and beaten for reporting on the rallies in support of the Chief Justice. Mr Turabi says he was first detained by unknown men on March 16 after he returned from a demonstration in support of the Chief Justice. He says he was threatened that his name may appear on the missing people list if he did not “mend his ways”. It is unclear why nothing was done about his first detention but Friday’s incident has made international headlines along with demands that those responsible be taken to task. An FIR must be registered and efforts made to nab the culprits.

      The past few months have been especially trying for the media. The attack on Geo TV in Islamabad in March, the taking off air of a few channels during demonstrations in support of the Chief Justice, and more recently the attack on Aaj TV in Karachi are a few instances of the heat the media has faced while doing its job. One must also mention the harassment and threats journalists faced for their coverage of the war on terror in the tribal areas and the unrest in Balochistan. Against this backdrop, it is important for the government to assure the media that it is not being targeted for its job — which is to report objectively. The press is no stranger to the government’s intimidation tactics, but any efforts to silence it or dissuade it from doing its job will have unpleasant consequences. A free press is an essential ingredient for a democratic society.

      He is the journalist whose son is in hands of intelligence agencies for last three months to black mail him not to issue some detail report on performance of army in war zones.

  • Nazia |

    omer

    jamshed kiyani was died due to natural death,He had some kind of stomach cancer which usually found in those who regularly takes strong whiskys.

    It was many times mentioned tha AM mushaf MIR was killed through conspiracy.You got the clues that it was done by US group.

    But just get the sequence of events as he was killed with whole team flew from pure air force bases just like zia's plane.If somehow it was happened through deep conspiracy then it shows that US agents are found in your bases, in security team of air chief, intelligence of air force which conducted inquiry and made it clear, air force maintenance team which allowed this plane to fly etc.

    So if whole groups of friends, subordinates,colleagues and relatives keep silence on the murder of their close ones then weak state like Pakistan dont bother to peruse for such crimes.

    Khwaja like persons had become impotent and invalid since the process of anti talibanistion become started on our soil on the name of war on terror,Surely they all are angry who groomed such breed and had links with those people but they all saw the lal mosque event which clearly gave them signal that now establishment had no mercy for them so now they are in mood of revealing truths which usually triggers in intelligence people at the end of games.

    So he was there for some kind of documentary and that hurt his ex bosses.

  • Nazia |

    Omer

    Now about osama

    everybody knows he worked for CIA and what ever has done to Muslims and their community on the name of his search, it is clear that his name is franchised by US agencies for mass killings of Muslims, destroying of infrastructures of muslim countries, and controlling the Muslim worlds through dictators and weak rulers.

    So get the facts of our all leadership whether political and miltiary,all had strong ties with osama and his net work so its better to concentrate on locals administrators who betrayed their oath of national duties and planned destruction for majority of Pakistan for securing their personal interests and their generations.

  • Umer |

    Nazia,

    wow you know it all, you know every thing about CIA, ISI, Pakistan Army, AlQaeda, Taliban, Lal Masjid, Zia Ul Haq, Aijaz ul Haq and the rest….

    wow, why are you wasting time on net? you should be working for the decagon.

    BTW, you didn't see the source of my posting. It was wikipedia. I still think that there are people in the establishment who are not happy with what is going on and they are 'Khadey Lagaey-ed' one by one.

  • Nazia |

    Umer

    What a stingy taunt of working for decagon as a das numberi.

    God save me for such kind of dirty jobs like that.Spying is mostly required in corrupt and weak system where LEA are most of time failed to provide adequate security to its people and cant give vigilance in its border areas.

    So they use crook tactics to trap the weak characters.

    You can judge their height of professionalism of our intellgence agencies through this report in which they are trying to trap, budhas and budahis through their moral weakness for receiving their feed backs.

    How Pak warmed its way to ‘spy’ who felt out in cold
    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/How-Pak-w

    It is very interesting that it is same ISI which send its spies with heavy bribes and even allow physical relations to character like madhuri but couldnt trace the background of 400 bombs attack done in rwp/isb for last 5 years on poor civilians or even couldnt probe of killings of our elected PMs, high officials and journalists in the same city.

    Even poor ISI men couldnt stop the attack on our heart of security GHQ which remained under attack for 22 hours in center of city.

    But no doubt they successfully breached the moral weakness of a jilted and deviated woman and we all know how much such bureaucrats are invloved in intelligence matters of their countries.

    So favorite jobs are assigned to right persons so no need to create decagon intelligence services.

    By the way you think that most of khuday lagey ed officials rely on Wikipedia in this net world as in real life their life is like ostrich that hide its head under sand after seeing danger so Wikipedia is good blanket of sand for all like that.

    • Tariq Nazir Syed |

      Zardari was known to be estranged by BB. She had directed him to leave her alone(in her political aims) and look after the kids abroad. Zardari, exploiting the lax security provided by Musharraf for BB, hatched the murder scheme, along with BB's security chief, Rehman Malik, Babar Awan, Shahin Shah, and others. They are responsible for this continuous cover-up, and refusal to get to the facts. Zardari is also responsible for the murder of Murtaza Bhutto, and so many crimes against the state and his own party. BB's so called "will" is a fake, just like his College "degree". He continues his quest to destroy state institutions, like NAB, Law Ministry, the Judiciary, and holds the PM and PPP hostage to his whims. He has billions of stolen state funds stashed abroad.