Shaheed or Halak ? – Ghazi Abdul Rashid

Ghazi Abdul RasheedEver since the afternoon of the faithful day when in between the intense fighting at the Lal Masjid, the Pakistan Army victoriously announced the death of the head militant of Lal Masjid Maulana Ghazi Abdul Rashid. Watching the news reports come through on all news channels I did notice that everyone was refraining to tag his death as a Shahdat. For many non-Muslims reading this article, it might seem to be a trivial issue but to a Muslim it means a world of a difference. A simple naming terminology is of no consequence to the soul in this world but it means a phenomenal difference in life-here-after. Quite simply its a decision to be made by Allah for him on the day of the Judgment.

A shaheed is a title that is given to a Muslim after his death, if he died during the fulfillment of a religious commandment. For a moment lets forget the political issues surrounding the crisis, coming to the root of the issue it was Ghazi Abdul Rashid who was defending the integrity of Islam challenging the ineffectiveness of the government in implementing the sharia law hence allowing a progressive degradation of our society. Without doubt Right or Wrong Maulana Shazi Abdul Rashid was defending his place of worship and was fulfilling his religious duties in this process.

Shaheed is a title for a Muslim when he dies for Islam While on the other hand the aggressors (Pakistan Army) were overwhelmingly attacking the mosque to the extent of destroying a large portion of the property throughout the compound. Hence can easily be labeled as aggressors against Islam, which is probably the highest crime for a Muslim. The jawans may be following order but it must be remembered that if one of the jawans were to loose his life in battle against Islam cannot be labeled as a Shaheed simply because he was a Muslim.

I share with you an interesting email I received by Mr. M Javed Iqbal who portrays a very compelling argument, which actually also got me thinking about this important issue. I quote…

During the attack on Lal Masjid and Madarsah Hafsa a question that was repeatedly raised was ‘ Who is “Shaheed” and who is “Halak”.’

In my opinion the distinction is crystal clear. The mistake and mischief lies with the initiator. Who started knocking down masajid in the capital of Islamic Republic of Pakistan? If I am traveling and somebody open fires on me, I have a right to defend myself and fire back at him. Therefore we must understand that what Ghazi brothers did was in self defence. The pity is Mullahs of the country have been corrupted by Musharraf by offering nice salaries and perks to them, hence they failed to point out that the sanctity of a masjid was to be safeguarded at all costs. No Muslim can dare attack a masjid, because it is Allah house.

Accordingly security forces, army men and rangers who attacked Lal Masjid are jahunumi and the fighters of Lal Masjid are shuhdaa and shall Insha Allah Will be rewarded with Paradise. Each officer or jawan must have refused to obey illegal order of attacking a masjid. They could say: “Look sir ! we joined the army to protect the Masajid and save women and children, not for destroying and killing them”.

Since they gave preference to order of the officer over Order of Allah, they are mahluk and jahanumi.

The brave fight back of Ghazi Abdul Rashid is an eye opener. When most of the Mullas just talked he challenged the illegal and immoral acts of Musharraf regime of knocking down 90 year old masajid of Islamabad and kept fighting for the cause till death. On such noble death Mir has said:

Marge Majnun pe aqal gum hai Mir
Kiya Diwane ne maut pai hai !

Most Mullas could not see this fine line and remained indifferent, although they could have raised hue and cry against desecration of masajid. We should not forget that Quran says “Allah is Most Powerful and Revengeful” Every party can see his image in this mirror!

Considering the issue, I feel convinced that the sad demise of Ghazi Abdul Rashid should be labeled as a Shaheed and full respect offered to the body in regards to its proper dignified burial. I would hold the Pakistani Army responsible to the extent of disobeying the Islamic Law to which they all have sworn to uphold.

He died defending the religion of Islam against the evil forces.

I hope that, you too, would join me in prayer hoping that Allah would confer the title of Shahdat upon Shaheed Ghazi Abdul Rashid and grant him his deserved place in the life-here-after.


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  1. karachi-wala Avatar
    karachi-wala

    yai ilahee kiaa qayamat kaa waqt agaya hai?

    dahri-ion ko, hamain sikhaney ko deen agaya hai

    guzar-dee jinhon nai umr saree,

    Pakistan kee barbadee kee tamanna liey,

    abb unhain Pakistan aur Fauj pey piar agaya hai

    yai ilahee kiaa qayamat kaa waqt agaya hai?

  2. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    @karachi-wala!

    thats the good one. bat agar shairee men ki jaey to uska maza hi alag hota hay.

  3. noman Avatar
    noman

    dactar sahib

    khamoshi neem sharmindgi hoti hai.

    ab galian nikal k sharmindgi door kar lein

    lolz

  4. asim Avatar
    asim

    Dr Jwad,

    chordo, in qadianion ko, inka bass chaley too pooree dunya ko apney sath jahnam main lejain.

  5. noman Avatar
    noman

    ghazi crimes can only be defended by calling others kafir/qadiani…..

    lolzzzzzzzzzz

    and then they talk abt shariah and islam :))))))))

    wat u call imam e kabba?????

    he says they were wrong!!??????

  6. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    an interesting column by kashif hafeez.

    http://www.ummatpublication.com/2009/06/04/idr05.html

  7. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    dear asim,

    i have already checked he is not qadiyani. he is a walking talking "MUNAFIQ" most of the munfaiqeen do not know about their nifaq. but Noman is a speacial case.he knows that he is munafiq still with the extreme shamelessnes he is doing mockery with the shohada e islam.

    he is in this forum since more than 2 year.i think he did a good job for his masters.

  8. noman Avatar
    noman

    Dactar jawad

    U referred to an article which was poorely written , extremely biased and full of un related nonsense. Liberal fascist is not what the gentleman or u understand. This term is infact a misnomer and shd not be used one can either b a liberal or a fascist . I for one am proud to be a liberal coz I ( follow the greatest liberal humanity has ever known, the liberator of all man kind hazrat Muhammad p.b.u.h. ) you accuse liberals of mullah bashing and announcing jihad lolzzzzzzzzzzz

    1. what about ur jihadi swati Taliban who consider that there is no jihad in Kashmir and Palestine ( munafiqat)

    u accuse liberals of striking the base of morality promoting sin and vice ,.remember the great liberal forbade the burying of girls in zaman e jahiliat yet mullahas and u are silent when women are married to the Quran declared wani or kari just for property disputes.and remain silent when rapist and acid throwers roam free. Why doesn’t molana burqa sopread the message of prophet p.b.u,h by speaking abt these illdeeds. He would abduct the women calling them prostitutes but leave his mulla relatives top aviid mma backlash ( munafiqat)

    2.ur beloved mullah ex nazim Karachi frm jam e islami on begum nawazish ali .lolzzzzzzzzz ( munafiqat)

    u accuse liberals of stopping from jihad. What about those who ran away wearing a burqa.

    3. during lal mosque operation jihad was to b till death , demand was sharaee nizam , courts were ghair sharaee now demand is rebuild jamia hifza, courts very sharaee, and jihad has worn a burq lolzzzzz munafiqat ki intiha

    molvion ka asal masla sirf chanda chanda zikat zikat khailna hai zarday ki plate dou aur fatwa dou jaisay dollar dou aur Pakistan mai jihad karao. Veryyyy simple

    ayesha military inc is true but all news papers who expose ghazi brothers are liars ( munafiqat)

    4. now where are the promises of marrying prostitutes who repent for their illdeeds and maulana claims that aunty shameem did repent.( I don’t know the lady tht who was she but as per molana burqa she shd be married to him or some one like u) munafiqat.

    5. Allah says that one shd abstauin from khulli and dhaki hui bahiyai but dactar jawad almshor gandi galion aur tekon wali sarkar does not care what Allah says. …munafiqat

    the only anomaly in the article was recognition of major raja aziz bhati shaheed along with the great shohda of islam .wow jawaad sahib now what will u say…I also rate all the shohda of the pajkistan army as companion of the shohda e islam…

    u term anti jihadi talibani ppl as liberal fascist. Where do u rate imam e kaba?

    6. ur avoidance of any Quranic reference or reference to sunna in proving the crimes of ghazi is mockery of the worst times.ur entire presence on this blog is munafiqat personified.

    im not indulging in mokery im just doin amar bil maroof.and yes im serving my master i.e Allah Almighty.

  9. Samer Avatar
    Samer

    I would only say this is the age of fittan mean great deception, it is very difficult to separate truth from lies.

    By physical eyes and from fact and figures it is easy to get misguided only people who are pure and had opened their inner eyes can distinguish between right and wrong.

  10. Abubakar Avatar
    Abubakar

    This is crap, who says the maulvis were fighting in self defence? they are the initiators, they burnt buildings, they killed 12 army men even when there was no chance of operation.

    I stand by the forces, what they did was to kill those who were insulting Islam in disguise of Scholars.

    God Bless All Shaheed Soldiers of Operation Silence. And May The trouble causing Molvis Rot in Hell.

    And by the way, that was a nice joke of Islam which Maulana Burqa made for the world to see.

  11. noman Avatar
    noman

    :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    molana burqa is still making a joke of islam . he and hios followers are living proofs of munafiqat , greed and opportunism .

    shariat demand is forgotten coz of amnesia !!!!!!1

  12. Abid Avatar
    Abid

    dr jawwad khan,

    wah kiaa link post kiaa hai aap nai.

    Allah izzat dey aapko aur Kashif Hafeez jaison ko.

    Allah Pakistani fauj ko Kiyani aur iss jaisey dosrey mardood- liberal facists sai pak karey Ameeeen.

    Allah Pakistani Muslmanon ko sacha muslman banadey, Ameen.

    Allah Muslmanon ko Ghulam Kafir Qadiani kai fitney sai bachaley, Ameeen.

  13. noman Avatar
    noman

    oops a daisies ,aik doosray ki tareef karnai sai baat sachi nai ho jati.gen kiani or pak fauj hi pak kai muhafiz hain.u ppl are 5th columnist agents ,who conspire with indians and jews to weaken the state.in the guise of religion u ,taliban and burqa bros are nothing but followers of abdoullah bin abbi.thats y u neither believe in quran nor sunnah.for uthe acts of taliban and burqa mujahids are greater than ALLAHS word.

    shame on all of u

    down with the chanda .zakat.zarda pai palnai walai

    molvis

    pak army zindabad

    pakistan paindabad

  14. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    PAK foj ka aik aur karnama.

    extra judicial murder of molana misbah uddin and his son abu saeed who were arrested and under custody of mardan police.

    http://thenews.jang.com.pk/print3.asp?id=22527

    india aur america kay samnay patloon geeli hojatee hay aur nehattay logon par bombaree kar kay sher ban jatay hen.

  15. noman Avatar
    noman

    khas kam jahan pak

    they deserved nothing better

    i find it surprising that anyone can support people (sorry) they are not people they are inhuman biggots who shd be puinshed more severely .now u want the courts to try them hahjahaha EXTRA JUDICIAL KILLING LOLZ

    what about the killing these suicide bombers have wrought on the poor pakistani citizens.

    dactar jawad has not once condemned a suicide bombing but he would cry when one or two suicide bombers would be killed. in my opinion suh criminals should be shot on site. there is no use of bringing them to courts or jail. they are barbaric murderers and dont deserve any mercy.

    hats off to whoever killed them

    job well done.

    ______________

    Pant choro burkon ki fikar karo. Suicide bombers tou asman sai atay hain…iski dhamiki tou molvi burqa bhi masjid sai detay thay.india sai tou 3 jangain lari pak army nai. Eastern borders sai fauj hatwanay ka dushman nai acha tareeqa dhonda. 5 /10 molvi kharedo. Dollars dou takay yeh jaga jaga phatay phirain.

    Molvion ka jihad tou sirf muslims k against hai.

    Do tell me y sufi Muhammad and other Taliban leaders are against hafiz saeed?

    Only because the man is fighting Indians in Kashmir but India k khilaf tou jihad bakol Taliban k jaiz nahi.yehi khiyal israek l baray mai hai.

    Narra tou last yr apka bhi tha k app Taliban k sath so called jihad karein gai

    Tou app nai pamper pehna hua hai????????????

    Indians k khilaf tou app bhi larnay ko tiyar nahi after they are ur pay masters.

    Do tell me molvi burqa ka kia kia kia geela hai jiski waja sai who bhi jihad bhool gayay?????????

    Kal tou azad adlia k azad chief justice bhi zardari sahib k galay lag gayay.

    Ab tou cj bhi hami o nasir hain pak fauj k ..

    Nam par ghor kijiye gay eh pak fauj hai yani bilkul pak.naik neeyat aur thos irada.

    Yeh aurtopn bachon k pechay chup k naghi lartay aur na hi kirdar kushi kartein hai

    Apk ghazi burqa itnay khofzada ho gayay hain k shadion k waday bhi bhula diyay.

    Kia prostitution burqa molvi ki nazar mai jaiz hai ya phir kisi ko pasand karnay k marahil sai guzar rahain hain.

    Chalaein hamari na mannay imam e kaaba ki man lein…par who kiun manay gai

    App konsa uss islam ko follow kartay hai jo Muhammad p.b.u.h k pairokaron ka hai

    Waisay ur a dr . y u hv not offered ur services for idp’s?? India k liyay spying ka yeh moka bhi acha hai.

    There are 25000 regular Indian troops in Afghanistan , 19 consulates along the pak afghan border strangely America ki itni support k bawajood no Taliban suicide bomber or ambush party targets them…u better know the reason….

    App aur apk molvi bhaijan pak k peechay kiun paray hai yeh jazba jihad India/Israel mai ja k istimal karein

    Finally molvi burqa is opening a shadi daftar kiunk jihad tou shru nahi hua….boht bahadur maan gayay!!!!!!!!!

  16. Abid Avatar
    Abid

    Noman,

    Tell me are you Qadiani? Give this answer and your all questions would be answered itself.

  17. noman Avatar
    noman

    lolzzz

    the only way to defend the chap…accusations, abuses & yet we talk about shariah.

    haha what a joke!!!!!!

  18. abid Avatar
    abid

    noman,

    Yes or no? are you a qadiani or not?

  19. noman Avatar
    noman

    u read all my post above and u will come to know

    i hvnt accused anybodys faith not even ur molvis.

    watever im gonna say u are not gonna believe it so b happy by calling everybody kafir who does not believe in talibani molvis.

    if u cannot defend his crimes then there is no use of crying.

    its an old cheep molvi tactic to blame others by calling kafir.

    so keep on believing wat u want to believe !!!!!!!!

  20. abid Avatar
    abid

    You didn't answer?

    You are too ashamed to answer.

  21. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    @abid!

    can you express your joy and happiness over the deaths of thousands of rasikh ul aqeeda muslims? no matter how much you disagree with them? no matter how violant they are in their strategy?

    ANS: no…because we are muslims we can not express the obnoxious behaviour on the death of our fellow muslims.

    @NOMAN is "the munafiq".he is not qadiyani i have already checked.believe me he is a walking talking munafiq.its a great opportunity to meet a munafiq.we only read in the books.now you can see them wandering around talking about "Quran and Sunnah" and shariyah…..what a joke!

  22. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    @abid!

    since almost 2 years he is in this forum.with different ID's

    (once he responded me with the ID of @faisal not knowing his mistake.what a freak! hahahhahaha)

    since 2 years he is rediculing the shohada e islam. with out taking a day off.

    just follow the record especially the last post of the @haq and conversation with me.

  23. noman Avatar
    noman

    Kadiani /kafir kehnay sai dil pishori na hou tou multiple ids ki allegation shruu karo.

    Faisal id was to prove u wrong as u were defending burqas but since ur dheet u wont admit.

    Mistake…lolz ( if this makes u happy , b happy)

    About haq has also been explained.

    To make u more happy there is a gud news all blogs anti molana burqa are mauintained by me.

    Amir mughal , denial burki etc etc etc are also my ids…

    But the next allegation would be I support prostitution and ur burqa molvi proved otherwise.

    @abid!

    can you express your joy and happiness over the deaths of thousands of rasikh ul aqeeda muslims? no matter how much you disagree with them? no matter how violant they are in their strategy?

    ANS: no…because we are muslims we can not express the obnoxious behaviour on the death of our fellow muslims.

    For 2 n half yrs im doing amar bil maroof. Im not like ur molana burqa jo apna jihad ka jazba bhool jayey…

    Gud attempt to avoid the issue

    (((((((( @abid!

    can you express your joy and happiness over the deaths of thousands of rasikh ul aqeeda muslims? no matter how much you disagree with them? no matter how violant they are in their strategy?

    ANS: no…because we are muslims we can not express the obnoxious behaviour on the death of our fellow muslims.)))))))

    Prove me that they were in thousands. 9o criminals died in a police /fauji mukabla for violating the law of land in lal mosque.

    No we can call muslim soldiers as selling their mothers, shit , pigs and saying that u would like to kill people totay totay kar .

    We can support Taliban who cut throats of innocent unarmed civilians and capturedsoldiers.

    Abid and jawaad I donot follow ur ghair sharaee firqa which ever it is.

    Abid I do not hv to prove my faith . im a muslim and damn proud of it…if ur trying to incite me im not bothered coz thts wat u people are gud at.

    Ajj saray molvi baith k tv par yehi boltay hain operation hona chahye.

    And ask imam e Qaaba the same questions as he has the same opinion.

    Ur frustration is evident as for the past seven eight months dactar jawad has not been able to give a single refernce from Quran or hadith in support of ghazi.

    Nor wud u be able to so keep coming up with ur cheep molvi tactics.

    Ur only recourse is a use of filthy abusive language and accusations of faith.

    My islam is the deen ibrahim as revealed to Muhammad p.b.u.h…I only follow his teachings as perAllahas commandments and being a fundamentalist I cannot let these thaikadars of islam to getaway with crimes in the name of islam.

  24. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    "Kadiani /kafir kehnay sai dil pishori na hou tou multiple ids ki allegation shruu karo.

    Faisal id was to prove u wrong as u were defending burqas but since ur dheet u wont admit.

    Mistake…lolz ( if this makes u happy , b happy)"

    ______________________________________________

    @abid!

    just read the comments from:

    Comment by faisal on December 9, 2008 @ 4:47 am

    till:

    Comment by dr.jawwadkhan on December 10, 2008 @ 6:23 am

    he has history of using multiple ID's. @haq made a brilliant analysis.please also read the comments of @haq:

    Comment by haq on August 11, 2007 @ 5:17 am

    later it is confirmed by teeth maestro at:

    Comment by Teeth Maestro on August 13, 2007 @ 5:15 pm

    he also used nick name like FAISAL and SICK N TIRED.

    question is why?

    answer i have already given.

    he claimed that i didn't give single refrence from Quran and hadith.

    my answer is " la'anat ullahe alal kazibeen wal munafiqeen"

    shohada e islam zindabad

    munfiqeen e pakistan murdabad

  25. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    @ abid

    "one mistake"

    the comments and analysis of @haq is there with the heading of double vision:

    Comment by haq on August 11, 2007 @ 4:22 am

  26. noman Avatar
    noman

    :))))))

    thts what im saying. all anti ghazi ids on this as well other blogs are mine.

    but what about molana burqa id?

    y was he trying to change his id

    and run away from a noble cause known as jihad???

    why dont u call him munafiq then?

    u prove all the allegations wrong if u support him.y cant u.u people can judge anybody's faith, call brothel supporter etc etc so y is it so difficult for u to explain the crimes of ghazi in the light of Quran /sunna.

    why u keep on trying to avoid the topic.

    u ridicule abuse pakistan army and every other person…wait no no only me on this blog as i admit all ids are mine. not 2 not 3 all r mine.baat hi khatam.

    did ghazi committed all the crimes because of my multiple ids?

    lolzzzzzzzzz.funny indeed.

    jihad forgotten by burqa uncle coz of multiple ids.

    :))))

    i wont put my self in multiple ids for pro ghazi.ghulam kafir qadiyani is not a known term to me.but it has been used since past few days by various ids. i dont care its the same person with different ids or not.i dont care.

    if u believe ur ghazi is such a hero y multiple ids bother u so much.

    u just name any id on this blog to whom u or any supporter of ghazi answered with logic i.e Quran/sunna.

    imam e Qaaba has a single id …that suits u or not?????????

  27. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    sachaee chhup naheen saktee banawat kay usoolon say

    khushboo aa naheen saktee kaghaz kay phoolon say

  28. abid Avatar
    abid

    noman,

    You Qadianis are the enemies of Islam. Your utter motive is to ridicule Islam and the people who would strive to defend Islam.

    May Allah curse Ghulam Kafir Qadiani. How can you imagine that he would go to heaven?

    The followers of Ghulam Kafir Qadiani are the 5th column in the state of Pakistan.

    The seperatist gang of Baluchistan welcomes the followers of Ghulam Kafir Qadiani, even if they are Panjabi.

    From now on the discussion on this blog would be to expose the chracter of this murtad movement of Ghulam Kafir Qadiani [PERIOD]

  29. noman Avatar
    noman

    jawaad

    ur very right thts what i say !!!!!

    :))))))))))))))))

  30. Imran Ali Avatar

    Assalam-o-alikum!

    Shaheed Abdur-Rasheed Ghazi was a Lion Hearted Man, a brave man, never seen pakistan army capturing 1 inch of Land from India, these people are good at operations on own grounds against own people.

  31. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    "never seen pakistan army capturing 1 inch of Land from India"

    (imran ali)

    ______________________________________

    because they are always bussy in land grabbing from the poor common pakistanis.

  32. Imran Ali Avatar

    The Fascist Army needs to change its attitude towards the Bloody Civilian Nation of Pakistan, we are wasting our Forces Men and we have been wasting them since from the very beginning, History is Evident.

  33. noman Avatar
    noman

    ( keepin in view the criminal activities of ghazi brothers & followers )

    arz kia hai!!!!

    Kaun kehta hai k mai mar jaun ga

    kaun kehta hai k mai mar jaun ga

    (wah wah wah wah)

    mai tou molvi hun

    ajji

    mai tou molvi hun

    burqa pehan k nikal jaun ga

    :)))))))))))))))))))))

    land grabbing ….lolz wat abt the illegal construction of jamia hifza.

    yes imran ur very right. the courageous talibani/ghazi brothers are/were fighting against israel and india…really very brave…

    cutting the throats of civillians…height of bravery. i admit this is the real heroism and jazba e jihad…man gayay.

  34. noman Avatar
    noman

    Ttalibani geography is swat = kasmir

    Fata = Israel

    Muslims = kuffar

    Bhaduri = burqa, bachay ,aurtainbomb blasts ,hiding in masjid

    Jihad iz jo chup k kiya jayay aur jan ka khatra ho tou bhag lia jayay.

    Geo reports : molana aziz ko shar angaiz taqreerain karnay par mukadma darj

    ( baton sai bari bahudri aur jihad ki Alla misaal history mai waqai kahin nahi milti)

    :)))))))))))))))))))

  35. Imran Ali Avatar

    Hmmm.. bachay, aurtain bomb blasts, yai batain ek aisi army ki favor karnay walai shaks kai munn say achi nahee lagti ju kai kudh involve hoo hazaroon aurthoon kai murder aur rape case main, aur bhai wo agar burqa pehen kar farar honay ki koshish main pakra gaya tu dosray nay tu stand lia na aur larh kar shaheed hoa hai yai kion nahee daikhtay, 90, 000 ki bhangi fauj ki tarha baisharmoon ki tarha hatyaar tu nahee dalai na wo bhi sab say baray dushman india kai agay, bhai sharam ka muqam hai, aziz ghazi tu ek dafa bhaga hai, history on accounts hai 71 main nassay, phir 99 main bhi nassay, 1 inch ki baath karo 1 inch land kabhi india say qabza nahee kia in logo nay kissi bhi jang main.

  36. hifi Avatar
    hifi

    imran ali,

    don't need to respond to Nauman, He is a Qadiani.

    So its their mission to corrupt Islam and humiliate the Sons of Islam.

    Ghazi does not need the approval of these bastards. Our Army has been hijacked by the mafiaso of this cult.

  37. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    kon kehta hay kay mot aaey gee to noman mar jaey ga

    noman to bandar hay, darakht pe charh jaey ga

  38. noman Avatar
    noman

    dossra bhai?????/

    g g bilkul….woh apnay aur apnay baki terrorist bhaion ki jan ki salamti mang rahay thay takay woh pursakoon zindgi guzarnay gaon ja sakein.

    his own fellows did not let him come out thtsy he was killed.

    at that time he forgot his demand for shariah …

    han g yeh masjid mai aurton bachon k pechay chup k india sai hi tou lar rahay thay.lolzzzzzz

    jo ghaltian bakol apkay army nai ki ya buzdli fauj dikha rahi hai tou bhai yeh molana /talibani dekha dain but in india…pakistan/our mosques are not in india ..

    apkay taliban bhaijans kehtay hain k there is no jihad in india/israel.

    maulana burqa 1 dafa bhaga hai…bilkul…kis sai lartay huway????????? kafiron sai , hindus sai?

    y they dont find in india. …

    now the cj and other political parties hv no objection on the operation…yeh sab including ch iftikhar is india's supporter????????????????????????

  39. Imran Ali Avatar

    Kaun Kehta hai Kai Mot Ayaigi tu Noman Shaheed ho Jaey Ga,

    Nauman tu Fauji hai Waqt anay par hamesha ki tarha Nass Jaiga.

  40. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    a third rated, cheap ,disgusting propaganda with obnoxious monkey behaviour of mader pedar azad bandar can not change the ground reality.

    the reality is the brave man died with honour.he fought with utmost courage against the evils of the society,refused to surrender and sacrificed his life maintainde his dignity.

    his greatness and high level can not be tornished by howling monkey or braying and kicking ass.

    sila e shaheed kia hay

    tab o taab jawidana

  41. Imran Ali Avatar

    Bachoon kai peechay, haan, tu bhai army ko agar bachoon ka khayal hota aur us ko apni jaan ki fikr thee tu un bachoon ki khatir he janay dai daitay us ko, aur on accounts army kai banday nay hee raaz paash kiyai hain pyaray dost.

    You may have heard of the protests that are going on these days against the coming of IDPs in Sindh and Punjab, this is the Unity of Pakistanis as a Nation, the protesters are the same people who favor the operation against these people, Salute to the Unity of Pakistani Nation, but i call this Hypocrisy.

    "Who needs an Enemy When you have an Army like Pakistan Army".

    These IDPs are the same people who fought against India bravely, Kernal Sher Khan Shaheed he belongs to NWFP village Nawa Killi near Malakand Division, and these are the same people who fought in and bring Azad Kashmir under the map of Pakistan.

  42. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    The Lahore high court is being overwhelmed by complaints of military corruption involving the highest ranking generals, officials of the Pakistan Peoples Party have revealed.

    The PPP, which says military corruption has reached unbelievable levels, lists some of the alleged kickbacks received by generals, air marshals and admirals contained in a petition submitted to the court.

    The petition includes claims that:

    Air Chief Marshal Abbas Khattak (retired) received Rs180 million as kickbacks in the purchase of 40 old Mirage fighters.

    Air Chief Marshal Farooq Feroz Khan was suspected of receiving a 5 per cent commission in the purchase of 40 F-7 planes worth $271 million.

    In 1996, the Pakistan Army bought 1,047 GS-90 Jeeps at a cost of $20,889 per unit. The market value of the vehicle then was only $13,000. According to the National Accountability Bureau, some senior army officers made Rs 510 million in the deal.

    One hundred and eleven army men got 400 plots in Bahawalpur and Rahimyar Khan districts at throwaway prices –Rs 47.50 per kanal (1/8th of an acre) as against the market rate of Rs15,000-20,000. Six respondents got 400 kanals in Punjab, while former NAB chairman Lt Gen Mohammad Amjad was allotted a two-kanal plot on Sarwar Road in Lahore for just Rs 8,00,000, payable in instalments over 20 years. The market value of this plot was Rs 2 crore.

    Gen Pervez Musharraf acquired a commercial plot worth Rs 2 crore at the Defence Housing Authority in Lahore for just Rs 1,00,000, payable in 20 years. "As mentioned in the report of defence services director-general, a loss of Rs 5 billion was incurred due to such allotments," the petition says.

    The army awarded a contract for the purchase of 1,000 Hino trucks at $40,000 a unit when the local Gandhara Industries had offered trucks of the same specification for $25,000 a piece.

    In the purchase of 3,000 Land Rovers in 1995, army officials allegedly received around Rs20,00,000 as kickbacks.

    The army management at the Water and Power Development Authority purchased electric meters at Rs 1,050 a piece against the market price of Rs 456, causing a loss of Rs 165 crore to the national exchequer.

    A former military regime sold the Pak-Saudi Fertilizers for Rs 700 crore and earned a Rs 200 crore commission on the deal.

    In 1996, the Pakistan Navy spent Rs 1.3 crore on installing air-conditioners at the Islamabad Golf Club without any justification.

    Apart from this petition, some other major scams involving serving or retired members of the military junta detailed by the PPP are as follows:

    Former army chief General Jahangir Karamat took kickbacks of more than US $20 million from a Ukrainian tank company selling tanks to Pakistan through a middleman named Colonel Mahmood, a brother tank corps officer of Karamat. Former prime minister Nawaz Sharief sent the present chief of WAPDA, Major General Zulfiqar, then serving in the Inter-Services Intelligence, to the Ukraine and Azerbaijan to investigate the scandal.

    Gen Zulfiqar compiled a report of the transaction and the bribes given. But the army tried to buy him out by rewarding him with the post of WAPDA chairman and promoting him to rank of lieutenant general.

    General Karamat was forced to resign. He was threatened that if he did not, he would be charged with corruption.

    Many road contracts were given to Hasnain Construction Company without any public tenders by the recently removed railways and communication minister, General Qazi. The company, owned by a relative of Gen Musharraf's son, was also awarded the lease of prime real estate in Lahore for the construction of a golf course under the frontmanship of Palm Country Golf Club, Singapore.

    The relative of Gen Musharraf admitted publicly that he was working for a commission to use his contacts and influence for the company.

    Prime commercial land developed by the DHA, Karachi, was leased at dirt-cheap rates to a McDonald's franchisee outlet operated by Amin Lakhani by the then corps commander, Karachi, Lt Gen Afzal Janjua.

    "Men who had one green suit to wear, in the words of General Tajammul, became the tycoons of Pakistan," a PPP spokesman told rediff.com

    "It was the beginning of prosperity for a few and the beginning of the end of military virtue of a previously spartan and clean military machine. In this messy situation, the subservient Lahore high court has been asked to sit in judgment with the sprawling mountains of charges, some even admitted publicly by the army.

    "God help the poor justices of the superior court," the spokesman said.

  43. noman Avatar
    noman

    Dactar jawad

    Bari lambi speech ki, ab tou adlia azad hai jo chor hai usko tang dain. Kis nai roka hai.jis par bhi chori sabit ho cj shd make an examp;e out of him. Warna tou yeh bhi propaganda hi hoga.

    Aisi azad adlia ka phir kia faida.

    But the same adlia ignored maulana burqa’s land grabbing acts but who tou jihad hai.

    Imran sahib.

    Who says that kids were killed in lal mosque?

    Ghazi ur shaheed himself denied the presence of any kid inside the mosque on the media. So either he was lying then or all others who claim that there were children are lying now.

    I mentioned children coz I find it funny that brave warriors of islam using children as human shields.

    Army ensured that all the kids were out. Why umme hassan did not bring everyone with her? Y only molana burqa ran away. Y not other kids were sent out.

    Army waited 7 days for this stupid drama.moreover where are the families of those thousands of children who were inside? For 350 missing persons entire families /ngo’s/religious parties come out .where are the names of those children . now don’t tell me that were orphans and record has been burned. How convenient.

    Imran u seem very confused.

    U say that who needs an enemy……………

    And then u praise captain kernel sher khan shaheed nishan e haidar

    Bhai he wasn’t from the Indian army?

    Lolzzzzzzz

    1971 war

    the only time in history when a majority rebelled against the minority.

    Now Bangladesh is a muslim country of 20 corore people.as far as the war is concerned u cannot fight the entire population of the country. In the shape of mukti bahini Indians had inside info. And idar hum idar tum ka narra kis fauji nai lagaya tha?

    Jo mna bhi east Pakistan gia uski tangain tor daein gai .yeh narra bhi kisi fauji nai nahi Bhutto nai laga tha.awami league had the majority. Hakomat dai detay. Fauj ko badnam kiun kartay hain.

    The unity of Pakistan is only coz of the army . as it has representation from all 4 provinces. Even in swat operation the army has shaheeds hailing from all the 4 provinces.the nation is united against the Taliban terrorist and now even locals in deer are beating the terrorist blue . the entire nation salutes the army. U can c ur azad media.now musharraf is no longer present to direct the media.

    Shukar hai imran k app yeh tou mannay k burqa molvi bhag gia tha.

    Jawad sahib tou uskay bhi kadardan hain. Uskay burqay ko bhi weapon hi samjhtay hain .lolz

    Imam e qabba apkay noble bradran k baray mai kia irshad farmatay hain.read it.jawad sahib tou bandiron k pinjray sai bahir niklain gai tou aqal k parday khulain gai.

    Dactar jawad im doing amar bil maroof.

    ISLAMABAD: Imam-e-Kaaba Shaikh Abdur Rehman al-Sudais has ardently appealed to the Lal Masjid administration to give up the path it has adopted for the past few months or the enemy would benefit from anarchy and chaos.

    “I deeply regret and am surprised over their undertaking,” he said while talking to a group of senior journalists at the Punjab House on Saturday. Saudi Ambassador Ali Awadh Asseri was also present on the occasion.

    In his brief opening remarks, Asseri said the Muslim Ummah was faced with paramount challenges after 9/11, which should be tackled with wisdom and acumen. The Imam-e-Kaaba said he was disappointed to note that the Lal Masjid brigade had involved women and children who, he said “should not be used (in such activity).”

    He said that seizing mosques was an act of enemies of Islam and Pakistan. “Being a well-wisher of Pakistan, I request these people to act while remaining within the clearly defined commandments of the religion. Any transgression will only accomplish the objectives of the enemy,” he said.

    He said Islam does not allow anybody to make mosques sanctuary this way. This is no wise method, he said, adding that mosques are Houses of Allah Almighty, not meant to show power by any person or group. “Anybody who likes to enforce Islamic Shariah can’t force it on his own. It can’t be enforced at the individual level. Ulema and those having knowledge of Islam should be approached for this purpose.”

    Al-Sudais expressed the hope that the issue would remain confined to the local level and would be resolved amicably. However, he said there are a lot of people in Pakistan who understand the religion and its spirit well, and a wrong course adopted by some would not make any difference.

    “I counsel these people to compassionately resolve the issue according to the distinguished principles of Islam in consultation with the government, Ulema and officials,” the Imam-e-Kaaba stressed. He said Islam does not allow violence, terrorism and use of force. The religion teaches mutual compassion and emphasises on love and affection.

    Al-Sudais said that in an Islamic government, everybody cannot act on his own and has to follow the system and institutions of the state. Anarchy and chaos, he said, are worse than murder, and Muslims must have to act collectively. They are not allowed to adopt an independent path.

    The Imam-e-Kaaba said Muslims are protectors of each other while limiting themselves to the confines of the law, and the rules prescribed by the state institutions. Islam prohibits taking any actions that divide Muslims.

  44. jimi Avatar
    jimi

    noman,

    Imam-e-kaba also said that Ghulam Kafir Qadiani and his followers are Kafir and who ever fears Allah should turn back to Islam and accept Muhammad (S.A.W.W) as THE LAST PROPHET.

    I hope you would adhere to Imam-e-Kaba's words.

  45. noman Avatar
    noman

    yes alhamdulilah im not a qadiyani. since ur continuosly slandering so ur answerable to Allah.

    supporting an arguement with galam galoch /abuses/calling people kafir etc are very weak and cheep tools and are only used by those who are at loss of words or not in a position to support whatever they are trying to prove.

    dactar jawad on reading such things i :)))))))))))))))

    ____________

  46. readinglord Avatar
    readinglord

    @tliban

    You have been repeatedly asking Noman whether he is not born out of temporary wed-lock (I forgot its Arabic name), but what you say about the prodigy of, what you call, mushrikeen and kufar.

  47. jinnah-disgraced Avatar
    jinnah-disgraced

    Rah-e-Haq kai *Mujahideen*

    Major Afzal Mehmood was born in 1976 in Karachi and he did his F.SC from T.I College (Taleem ul Islam College) Rabwah, And for his Country and People he was fighting with the enemy in FC NWFP from past year. On 19th June 2009 he went on Patrol with his men on Pak-Afghan border but near Bajur they were ambushed the troops returned fire but this brave man achieved Shahadat (Martyrdom) when he was hit by a bullet in the Head.

    On 20th June his Body was brought to Rabwah for Burial were he was given Full Army Salute and a Shaheed’s Burial.

  48. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    NOMAAAAAAAANNNNNNN!

    Areyyyyyyyyyyyyy yeh kia hogaya.

    tumhara aik aur bhai shaeed hogaya.

    NOMAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!

    kaprhay pharhooooooo nomaaaaaaaaannnnn

    sir par mitti dalo nomaaaaaaaaaannnn

  49. noman Avatar
    noman

    :))))))))))))) Alhamdullilah he embraced shihadat for a noble cause.

    these things suits u and ur criminal fellows to cause nifaq.

    shame on u

    your islamic interpretation is only to please jewish and hindu enemies of pakistan.

    imame Qabba stand on the issue is a slap on ur face !!!!

    Dactar jawad im doing amar bil maroof.

    ISLAMABAD: Imam-e-Kaaba Shaikh Abdur Rehman al-Sudais has ardently appealed to the Lal Masjid administration to give up the path it has adopted for the past few months or the enemy would benefit from anarchy and chaos.

    “I deeply regret and am surprised over their undertaking,” he said while talking to a group of senior journalists at the Punjab House on Saturday. Saudi Ambassador Ali Awadh Asseri was also present on the occasion.

    In his brief opening remarks, Asseri said the Muslim Ummah was faced with paramount challenges after 9/11, which should be tackled with wisdom and acumen. The Imam-e-Kaaba said he was disappointed to note that the Lal Masjid brigade had involved women and children who, he said “should not be used (in such activity).”

    He said that seizing mosques was an act of enemies of Islam and Pakistan. “Being a well-wisher of Pakistan, I request these people to act while remaining within the clearly defined commandments of the religion. Any transgression will only accomplish the objectives of the enemy,” he said.

    He said Islam does not allow anybody to make mosques sanctuary this way. This is no wise method, he said, adding that mosques are Houses of Allah Almighty, not meant to show power by any person or group. “Anybody who likes to enforce Islamic Shariah can’t force it on his own. It can’t be enforced at the individual level. Ulema and those having knowledge of Islam should be approached for this purpose.”

    Al-Sudais expressed the hope that the issue would remain confined to the local level and would be resolved amicably. However, he said there are a lot of people in Pakistan who understand the religion and its spirit well, and a wrong course adopted by some would not make any difference.

    “I counsel these people to compassionately resolve the issue according to the distinguished principles of Islam in consultation with the government, Ulema and officials,” the Imam-e-Kaaba stressed. He said Islam does not allow violence, terrorism and use of force. The religion teaches mutual compassion and emphasises on love and affection.

    Al-Sudais said that in an Islamic government, everybody cannot act on his own and has to follow the system and institutions of the state. Anarchy and chaos, he said, are worse than murder, and Muslims must have to act collectively. They are not allowed to adopt an independent path.

    The Imam-e-Kaaba said Muslims are protectors of each other while limiting themselves to the confines of the law, and the rules prescribed by the state institutions. Islam prohibits taking any actions that divide Muslims.

  50. jd Avatar
    jd

    Noman,

    Who are you to declare a Qadiani as Shaheed? Do you worship Pakistan Army? or is Pakistan Army the owner of Yaum-e-Akhirat?