Ever since the afternoon of the faithful day when in between the intense fighting at the Lal Masjid, the Pakistan Army victoriously announced the death of the head militant of Lal Masjid Maulana Ghazi Abdul Rashid. Watching the news reports come through on all news channels I did notice that everyone was refraining to tag his death as a Shahdat. For many non-Muslims reading this article, it might seem to be a trivial issue but to a Muslim it means a world of a difference. A simple naming terminology is of no consequence to the soul in this world but it means a phenomenal difference in life-here-after. Quite simply its a decision to be made by Allah for him on the day of the Judgment.
A shaheed is a title that is given to a Muslim after his death, if he died during the fulfillment of a religious commandment. For a moment lets forget the political issues surrounding the crisis, coming to the root of the issue it was Ghazi Abdul Rashid who was defending the integrity of Islam challenging the ineffectiveness of the government in implementing the sharia law hence allowing a progressive degradation of our society. Without doubt Right or Wrong Maulana Shazi Abdul Rashid was defending his place of worship and was fulfilling his religious duties in this process.
Shaheed is a title for a Muslim when he dies for Islam While on the other hand the aggressors (Pakistan Army) were overwhelmingly attacking the mosque to the extent of destroying a large portion of the property throughout the compound. Hence can easily be labeled as aggressors against Islam, which is probably the highest crime for a Muslim. The jawans may be following order but it must be remembered that if one of the jawans were to loose his life in battle against Islam cannot be labeled as a Shaheed simply because he was a Muslim.
I share with you an interesting email I received by Mr. M Javed Iqbal who portrays a very compelling argument, which actually also got me thinking about this important issue. I quote…
During the attack on Lal Masjid and Madarsah Hafsa a question that was repeatedly raised was ‘ Who is “Shaheed” and who is “Halak”.’
In my opinion the distinction is crystal clear. The mistake and mischief lies with the initiator. Who started knocking down masajid in the capital of Islamic Republic of Pakistan? If I am traveling and somebody open fires on me, I have a right to defend myself and fire back at him. Therefore we must understand that what Ghazi brothers did was in self defence. The pity is Mullahs of the country have been corrupted by Musharraf by offering nice salaries and perks to them, hence they failed to point out that the sanctity of a masjid was to be safeguarded at all costs. No Muslim can dare attack a masjid, because it is Allah house.
Accordingly security forces, army men and rangers who attacked Lal Masjid are jahunumi and the fighters of Lal Masjid are shuhdaa and shall Insha Allah Will be rewarded with Paradise. Each officer or jawan must have refused to obey illegal order of attacking a masjid. They could say: “Look sir ! we joined the army to protect the Masajid and save women and children, not for destroying and killing them”.
Since they gave preference to order of the officer over Order of Allah, they are mahluk and jahanumi.
The brave fight back of Ghazi Abdul Rashid is an eye opener. When most of the Mullas just talked he challenged the illegal and immoral acts of Musharraf regime of knocking down 90 year old masajid of Islamabad and kept fighting for the cause till death. On such noble death Mir has said:
Marge Majnun pe aqal gum hai Mir Most Mullas could not see this fine line and remained indifferent, although they could have raised hue and cry against desecration of masajid. We should not forget that Quran says “Allah is Most Powerful and Revengeful” Every party can see his image in this mirror!
Kiya Diwane ne maut pai hai !
Considering the issue, I feel convinced that the sad demise of Ghazi Abdul Rashid should be labeled as a Shaheed and full respect offered to the body in regards to its proper dignified burial. I would hold the Pakistani Army responsible to the extent of disobeying the Islamic Law to which they all have sworn to uphold.
He died defending the religion of Islam against the evil forces.
Comments
1,044 responses to “Shaheed or Halak ? – Ghazi Abdul Rashid”
assalamoalikum well use brains allah knows who was on right path.u should care for your self.where did u live in pakistan i think if u meet me then i will told u the right story so iam waiting for your reply
use brains i will answer all of your questions one by one start questioning
aoa waqas
definitely only Allah knows tht who is on the rite path… but he has given us the Quran n sunnat as the ultimate guiding principles of life…….
my questions are the same as the ones posted by nauman and ordinary pakistani……..scroll above and read…….thanks
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ghazi shab ko kisi ny halak kaha to os k pc men sy tamam data ghayab ho jaye ga last woring hy sab k leye
i am a biggest hacker ab koi b one halak mat kaye warna apna pc tabah karneh k leye tayar raho
jo on ko halak keh rahe ho wo sab kafir hen kafir
lanti hen
y do i find tht all ghazi supporters are petty criminals tht is chore uchakay / hackers……kia ghazi sahib nai Quran aur sunnat se yehi seekha aur sikhaya hai
WAQAS PEHLAY INN JAISAY LOGON KO TOU SAMJHAIN K GHAZI SAHIB KI SHARIAT THI KIA…..DOSRON KO NUKSAN POHNCHANA?????????? basically unki philosphy sirf blackmailing thi………..ab yahan bhi yehi kuch hai…..
ghazi rasheed halak nahi hua tha woh apni zid , bawaqoofi aur ego k hathon MAR gia……
noman bhai sab aik jesay nehi hotay kuch gazi ke supporters jhotay hotay hain kuch achay sachay hotay hain aap ko pori bat malom nehin hai.media jhot bolta hai aap questions dobara copy paste kardien.mein apara mei parhta tha mujhe pata hai kya hwa hai.
ghazi shaeed zinda bad musharraf murdabad …..gud yaar…..
ye log samjhte hi nahi hain…….
in sab k saath aisa hi hona chahaye…..
nouman tum tameez se baat karo……is tarha ki batain kar k tum apne gunnah zaida kar rahay ho…..
lal masjid main jo bhi SHAHEED huay ..wo tu ALLAH ka han kaamyaab ho gaye hain…..ab tum apni fikar karo…
WAZOO HUM APNAY LAHOO SAY KAR KAY
KHUDA KAY HAAN SURKH ROO HAIN THAHRAY
HUM AHAD APNA NIBHA CHALAY HAIN
TUM AHAD APNA BHULA NA DEENA…..
waqas
apkay pass bhi second hand knowledge hai …abpara mai parhnay sai app ki info authentic kaisay ho jati hai? mai musharraf ko defend nahi kar raha lekin islam k unn thaikaidaron par zaroor aitraz hai jo masjid ki arr mai apnay interest k liyay apni gandi harkaton sai islam ko badnam kartay hain……..abduction, burning public property, slandering etc etc agar QWuran aur sunnat sai sabit hain tou zaroor bateyay ga
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adnan danish
apki guftgopo tameez aur thzeeb k dairay sai bahir hai.dosron ko kafir kehna, galian nikalna aur danday ki zor par criminals aur crminal minded logon ki support karna apkay nazdeek waqai sawab aur akhrat mai nijat ka bais hai ….if so then ur highly mistaken………
meri zaat ko jab bhi nuksan hoga Allah ki marzi shamil e hal ho gi……allah mujhay razi ba raza honay ki taufeek dai aur shar angaizon k shar sai mehfooz rakho……..app kis bat par khush ho rahay hain k woh uper walay hazrat boht deeni kam kar rahay hain………shahid ghazi aur app jaisay log ioslam ko criminals ka religion banana chtay hain………aisi fazool goi aur ghatia narraybazi sai na mai darta hun na impress hota hun but aik chez zaroor hoti hai…..lekin afsos ka mukam yeh hai k app k pass ghazio k actions ko defend karnay liyay koi sunnat, ayat ya logic nahi
GHAZI WAS A GHUNDA N KILLED BY SECURITY FORCES FOR HIS CRIME FOR HIS CRIME
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jab app koi bura kaam hotay dekho tu us ko phly haath se roko…na rok sako tu zaban se roko…phr bhi na rok paao to dil main bura janu…..per ye sab se nichla darja hai….
so app un k tareeqay kar ko ghalt nahi keh sakte…jab islam ne keh dia..tu app kon hotay ho…..
please prove tht ghazi and his team had done all his actions according to sunnah…prophet (p.b.u.h) preached islam by word of mouth i.e tableegh………aside from jamia hifza where did ghazi performed such an act….
plz prove nowzubillah , abduction, slander, setting fire, killing muslims , illegal construction, weapons in mosques from sunnat
the prophet (p.b.u.h) paid for all the mosque constructed in the early days…..he was not member of any qabza group….like many of our molvis
including u how many on this blog are using Quran / sunnat as their guidelines……..mostly ghazi supporters use abusive language and call ppl kafir….u also do the same.
app ki kahi hui hadees k mutabiq ghazi sahib ko issi tarh rokna chahye tha jaisa govt nai roka …burai ko hath sai roknay ka hi hukm hai…..
Quran says….deen mai jabar nahi….
Government’s Vice department should have controlled those brothels, chaklas and ” beauty parlours ” of Islamabad.
But how could they finish such places when MNAs and MPAs , Army officers and government officers themselves were among clients of those chaklas and brothels.
Musharraf tried his best to convert Pakistan into an international Chakla .
Above poster Noman is a Qadiani in disguise.
who was caught frm chinese massage parlour????????
waqas and anyother who was interested in telling me shd first tell these muslim brothers wat mr ghazi was trying to do
i told u his supporters can only abuse and nothing else……….but tht does not make mr ghazi correct…..
this is so funny!!!!!!!!!!
thts wat ghazi was preaching and thts wat his followers were learning
QUIET OBVIOUS
holy prophet(p.b.u.h) never abused any body and never used foul language so MY RESPECTED BROTHERS I CANNOT MATCH U IN UR CHOICE OF DIRTY , FILTHY LANGUAGE ALLEGATIONS
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noman bhai app ke islam ke taleem kam hai deen mei jabar nehin is ayat se pehley history dekho yeh ayat sirf zabardasti kisi nonmuslim ko islam mei dakhel karne se rokney ke liyeh hai raha hadees burae dekho hath se roko.aap se sawal hai kya hazrat abubaker sadiq ra ne un musalmano ke khilaf jihad nehin kiya jo zakat na detay thay???? socho parho islam kya kehta hai.chinese parlour par shujat hussain jata tha aur bhi wazir jatay thay.rahi baat mei apara mei partha tha is liyeh kyoun ke sara operation hamlogo ke samne hwa meray college ke 70 percent larke lalmasjid ke samne rehtay thay mere nani amma g 6 near lalmasjid rehtey hain aur antishammem dalal aurat the sab ko pata tha.aur lalmasjid kherqanoni zamen par nehin bane tabhi aap ko keh raha hoon aap ko pori information nehin hai.jamiah hafsa aur 7 shaheed masjid cda ne khod aprove ke thein.1 masjid jo hakomat ne shaheed ke 100 years purani thi name masjid ammerhamza islamabad baney se pehley ke masjid the wo.aur lalmasjid walo ne kon se property jalae wo samne wali building ke baat ap kartay ho to wahan tu rangers ne position sambhale hwe the aljazea prog witness dekho phir pata chalay ga.1 aur question aap ne kiya ke weapons in mosque.hazrat muhammad saw ke zamanay mei masjid mei teerandazi ke mashq hwa kartey the us zamanay mei arrow bhi hatayar thay tu jab hazrat muhammad saw teerandazi ke practise karwa sakte hain aur sahaba ko trainig de jasakte the tu ab kyoun nehin.islam aap ko defend karney ke ijazat deta hai.allah quran mei farmate hai jitney zayate tum par ke gae ho tum bhi utni zaite karsakty ho par us se zaida na karna.6 july conference mei 50 thousand log islamabad ayeh kya sab pagal hai agay dekho islam kaisey raij hota hai.hakomat ne tu sazae maut khtm karde yanni allah ka kanon tor ke allah ke rit ko challenge kardia hai.
noman bhai koi faisal karney se pehley aap lalmasjid ka moakif sun lein phir aap ko haq hoga bolnay ka audia bayan all jumah aap ko lalmasjid ya jamiah hafsa ke website se milay ga
Noman Qadiani or asteen kay saanp
No body here is a follower of Ghazi sahib,
We are followeres of one Allah and one Rasool (saw ).
” Chakla ” is the proper word for massage parlours.
I know for sure that most of the filthy rich Qadianis of Islamabad and Pindi area are clients of such Chaklas or brothels..
Most of the rich Qadianis of Islamabad drink alcohol or sharab and they are not practicing Islam.
You don’t have to tell us what Islam is and what Lal masjid was doing.
There are reports that Qadiani women entered Lal Masjid and they provoked both government and Lal Masjid to kill each other.
And your cheap hhahhaahahaha ..and LOLzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
” Khisiani billi khanba Nunchay ”
Get lost you chalak madari.
without any cause u hv accused me of little knowledge abt religion…….typical molvis tactic………u hv chosen to put me rite but hv convieniently avoided all those on this blog who use abusive language n call ppl qadiani or kafir……..u hv also chosen to avoid all my accusations…..
1. abduction and slander…….u hv still not quoted an ayat aur sunnat proving kidnapping and tohmat……hazrat abu baksr sadik was the head of state n govt.his action was tht of a ruler and carried state authority……u may name a sahaba who in presence of govt acted as per his own will, built a mosque, abducted women and killed ppl inside it
2.u said tht the building was occupied by rangers…maybe all pakistani tv channels were lying when they reported n showed videos of u ppl burning n breaking the building…..ghazi was also involved in burning melody cinema after azim tariq;s death…….
3. the govt act of destroying old mosques was wrong but in trying to save jamia hifza most of which was illegally constructed…ghazi sahib held entire isb hostage…
4.who gave ghazi sahib the authority to do sduch acts….only 50000 ppl according to u gathered in the recent conference.news papers put the strength at 12000…. but in the recent elections almost 12000 votes were cast…none frm jamia hifza n lal masjid were elected…most of the ppl of isb do not support u extremist……..the fact is lal masjid is the best chanda generating mosque in isb…….the same zakat sadka and khairat used for bullets, hand guns by ghazi…..now ppl are trying to inherit this franchise…….
5. lal masjid and jamia hifza along with 100;s of madrissas were funded by cia money specifically for the afghan jihad….america k paisay khanay walay hamay islam batayein gai?????????the only reason the place was not targeted by govt earlier was coz of ghazi’s link with the isi n other intelligence agencies……..his connections with sipah sihaba are well known…..this org is again extremist in its views…however just by living across the street u claim to b a know all…….u must hv then heard of the preechings in lal mosque promoting suicide bombings………….these were aired on tv aswell……..n yet u support them
6.the responsibility to punish lies with the state..jungle ka kanoon nahi hai………
7. as per news papers the man caught frm the parlour was the brother of an mma mna……..secondly ghazis followers are neither the police nor the law nor do they hv religios authority……..nor they were elected so they cannot represent any segment of the society……
8. many ppl died inside the lal mosque…..were there parents asked before involving them in so called jihad?????? y were so many parents outside begging ghazi to release their children…..
9. y did maulana burqa n umme hassan run frm jihad……y ghazi atb the end was begging for safe passage???????????/
a lot of contradictions
Noman ,
How I caught that you are a clever Qadiani, and how simple was Waqas that just because you had a Muslim name ” Noman ” , he called you ” a brother “.
Basically you are trying to chew on simple people of Lal Masjid , you are trying to bite on their self esteem by saying that most of the activities of Ghazi sahib were illegal.
They are simple people , they cannot reach to your and your Jamaat’s cleverness , but I tell you that they are registered with the government of Pakistan , just like your Ahmadiyya Charity is registered with various governments of Pakistan.
May I ask you what is the legality of Musharraf to become president of a Muslim country like Pakistan.
He himself admitted that he is a Sharabi , Zani and he sleeps with dogs and he even doesn’t know how to say Namaz or read Quran properly.
Will you tell us the legality of various Sharabi and dog loving bureaucrats of Islamabad that how they did ” qabza ” on the resources and real estate of Pakistan ..??
May I ask you Noman that what is the legality of your clever Delhiwala Mirzas to collect 50 million dollars (300 crore rupees ) Chanda or charity money every year..
If any body ask about audit or expenses report then he is kicked out of your jamaat and some times kidnapped or killed .
Lal masjid people were homeless and pennyless citizens of Pakistan , whose generals and bureaucrats and Pirs and Mirzas are among richest people of this world.
They are simple people , but they will learn your tactics one day and they will expose your dirty activities one day.
And stop shedding these crocodile tears for Pakistan and keep on whining in front of your Western masters that Mullahs call you Kafir.
It was your Jamaat who called all Muslims as Kafir , and when it was established in the national assembly of 1974 that Qadiani books consider all Muslims as Kafirs , then that Assembly declared you as Kafirs but still you people have billion dollar properties in Islamabad and Pakistan and you gather there all the time to conspire against simple Pakistanis.
spectator…………..ur comments match the mental approach by all lal masjid supporters…i.e all those with us are muslims and all those against are kafir/qadiyani/jew etc
this intolerant mindset has given rise to extremism all over the world…….normally i try to avoid personal attacks or take it in a very light manner…alhamdulliah im not a qadiyani marzaee etc etc however ur act of blaming me as a muslim in disguise will inshallah be challanged in the akhrat…….as far as ur comments regarding musharraf are concerned im not going to defend him or many of his illegal acts…however i hv the right to question any chor daku lutaira who hides behind the name of islam for his personal interests…..
u called lal masjid walas a simple n innocent ppl..CORRECT …thtsy they were fooled by ghazi rasheed and his criminal fellows…..my question remains unanswered……prove ghazi correct in the light of Quran n sunnat……
u hv quoted/accused musharraf as zani, sharabi etc etc………even if correct do u hv 4 witnesses or refernce authorities under islamic law to prove ur point..if so y such a strong muslim as urself not go to court or public with these allegations…..
despite claiming to be a true pakistani, staunch muslim who prays 5 times a day, reads Quran , the language used by u does not befit a good human being…wat to talk of a gud muslim
my knowlege abt marzaees is nill therefore i cannot comment abt their religion……ur accusations regarding the beurocrats/polititions maybe true but the same can be said abt ghazi…he also shd be categorised as part of the land mafia and the filth of pakistan
i hope tht next time u come up with a comment u would follow the norms of decency and manners associated with gud muslims….(amen)
MASHALLAH
APP NAI JO ZUBAN ISTIMAL KI YA GALIAN NIKALI YEH qURAN K HUKM K MUTABIK HAI?
SUNNAT SAI KOI AISI MISAL MILTI HAI ?
FALANA SHD DO THT N SOME ONE SHD DO THT TOU CHORAIN PEHLAY APP BATAYEIN K APKI TARBIAT YA SCHOOLING MAI KIUN ITNI KAMI REH GAEE K APP ITNI ALLA PAYAY KI LANGUAGE USE KAR RAHAY HAIN……………
hahah noman again u didnt have any knowledge.i think u r not living in islamabad.islamabad ppls elected nawaz sharifs anjum akil khan because he is suporter of lalmasjid and he was present on lalmasjid conference. according to hadees bukhari and almuslim if anyone see some wrongdoings he should stop it by hand if he has enough eman but if he dont have enough eman he should stop them by saying and 3rd is keep quiting which can be adopted when u havent strong eman.so gazi stop brothel madam anti shammem.
2nd baat ke anti shahmeem pi tehmut agar lagai hai wo kehtii hai tehmut hai tu wafaki shari adalat mei makadma chalaya jata tu phir pata chalta us par us ne mafi mang le.agar ap islamabad mei hotay tu app ko h 8 markaz ke samne abhi bi anti shameem ka ghar dekhata hoon wo meray dost ke ghar ke sath rehte hai allah ke qasam.2nd aap media reports dekh lien 15 sal se anti shammem brothel khulay hwe they geo walay ary walay saray jhotay hain kya muhalay walay bhi jhotay hain kya wo sachi hai. aap ke italah ke liyeh araz hai lalmasjid hakomat ne zia dor mei banaye the tu goverment ne bania gazi sahib ne thori bania hai jo keh rahay ho.sath jammia hafsa 1992 mei bana shuru hwa tha wo bhi sarkar ke ijazat se.tu app kon se masjid ke baat kartay ho
2nd gazi ne cinema jalaya boht acha kiya mera bas chalay poray pakistan ke cinema ko jalaon kyoun ke yeh gher islami hai.tv chanels wallay sach bhi boltay hai aljazera mei bhi kaha ke yahan rangers ne positin sambhale hwe the then ….
3rd purani masjid hakomat nehin gira rahe the aap khud socho islamabad mei total kitne masjid hain 90 masjid ke list hakomat ne tiar ke shaheed karnay ke liyeh tu baki kya bach gaya pehley he kummah ko jagah nehin hote.agar masjid purani hogae the tu 1 charch bhi purana ho gaya hai near blue area wala wo girana tha hakomat ne phir brabar ke bat hote,
4- allah give authority to gazi shahib and us to stop any wrong doings by hand.2nd pml nawaz won election in punjab due to lalmasjid and your pml defeated all over pakistan due to operation.ch pervez elahi and shekh rasheed said
that we was defeated due to lalmasjid issue haaaa lol.
5 american cia was giving money for mujahideens it is true but gazi sahib pehley bhi jihad kiya ab bhi taliban ke liyeh awaz uthae hakomat ke tarah nehin rang badla.islam aap ne quran hadees se sekhna hai.isi ke sath thalok hota tu operation na hota yeh aap ne ilzam lagayah sipha sahaba ke sath thaolok hai lekin sucide bombing jaiz nehi hai hakomat ne pehley khud kaha 1965 paki fauj tanks ke nechay akar khudkush hamlay kiyeh brb pul tabah wo kya tha sab bakwas tha khudkushi haram hai police par khud kush hamla jo conference mei hwa wo bhi cia ne karwaya.
6 aap islam ko jangal ka kanon kaho tu allah he hafiz.
7 islam aap ko ijazat deta hai tu police walay kya hakomat kya sab kuch nehin hakomat tu allah ke hai.mma ke wazir bhi atay hongay lekin mma kon kehta hai achi hai sab bura kehtay hai yahan tak ke lalmasjid walay bhiiii.islam mei khilafat hai yeh jamhori nizam bakwas hai allah ne jo nizam diya hai khilafat ka usi par amal hona chahia ham jamhori nizam ko nehi mantay
8 aap ke italah ke liyeh araz hai ke ab aap dekhein jab media zahr ugul raha ho masjid ke undar gher mulki hai masjid ke under surong hain aur pata nehin kya kya bakwas tu saf zahir hai parents ko jhot pataya jhayeh tu unho ne yahe kehna hai ab jab operation ho gayah hai tu aaj dekho parents kya kehtay hai agar lalmasjid confernce mei tum hotay tu pata chalta tumhain students khud keh rahay h
ai ke ham ko kisi ne yargamal nehin banaya tu bat he khatm.
9 good question gazi sab was not terrorist unho ne kaha ke media ke samne sara weapons aur masjid ko dekhaya jayeh mei hatayar phekon ga par hakomat dar gayeh ke logo ko hakeekat na pata chal gayeh.gazi sab khon nehin chahtay thay par un ko majbor kia gia defend karnay ko.2nd umme hasan ke bare mei mujhe zaida pata nehin mulana abdul aziz rehmtullahle shadat se bhagay nehin thay ijazulhaq ne un ko kaha tha ke aap bahir kisi tarah niklien ya aap ka bhai takey thareek chaltey rahay aur forces par hamlay kia jain aur khud socho 1 admi apnay bhai beta maan k chor kar kyoun bhagayeh ga jab ke us ke sari family under they
11 aap ke liyeh yeh bhi patao ke gazi sab ke kabar ke mitti se khusbu bhi mekhi media is bat ka gawah hai.aur aap sahdat ke bad ke pic un ke dekho wo muskura rahay hain.
atlast agar tum lalmasjid ke khudbay suno gay tu tum ko pata chalay ga sab chesso ka and u r brain washed by some ppls
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waqas………….. ur very right as per ur definition of islam every ghunda mawali if fortunate enough to be the imam of a mosque can get away with murder because usko tou Allah nai ikhtiar dia k burai ko jahan dekhay khatam kar dey……..if he kills then his emaan is very great..if he abducts his iman is still fresh….he can terrorize the entire community because fortunately for us he does not recognise democracy neither laws of the state….he is the law as only he knows the Quran….all those with him are mujahids and those against are kuffar……………u supported the burning of melody cinema …what next?????????? would u burn all the tv stations too or what about the internet??????? burn all internet links…….ghaszi rasheed zindabad…….put acid on all women without maulana aziz;s burqa as they all r indecent……..ghazi rasheed zindabad………..your logic is too good for him………..you said tht pmln mna was elected.wow …thts gr8..nawaz sharif his leader is the greatest theif of all..the poor chap owns only a few dozen mills and a few billion dollars…bichara………….as far as aunty shamim is concerned u say tht she shd hv gone to federal shariat court.is she the only prostitute in town??????hv u ever visited faiz a bad or pir vidhai??????? ghazi rasheed was basically a bigot…selective application of Quran……….do u want to say tht ghazi got wahi frm allah n tht is y all his actions were correct??????? he slandered aunty shamim over national tv …who were the 4 adult 4 witnesses who hv actually physically seen her doin such acts????????????rumours maybe……shak may be……….but its very easy to spoil anybodys repute..i donot defend aunty shamim if she is a proven prostitute…….but the case has not been proven in court……jamia hifza walas approach the courts for maulana aziz;s bail but they dont do the same if they hv to slander anyone………….uss nai mafi mangli yeh uskay khilaf saboot hai.qadir khan mafi mangay tou uss par
pressure tha…….
taliban k sath ghazi k puranay talukat thay…….these ppl are terrorists behind suicide bombings in pakistan n elsewhere…theyu shd not be spared…….ghazi sahib was an american agent throughout his career in the mosque, raised on american money used for an american jihad against russia…now these ppl are trying to use the rest of the country for their criminal interests…..jews k paisay par jihad ghazi hi kar sakta tha.wah kia jihad tha……..
islam jungle ka qanoon nahi hai but one imam masjid cannot claim to be the law enforcer……wat if someone agrees to ur interpretition of islam n finds u doin wrong deeds…as per ur ideas he shd just kill u coz u will kafir as per his definition………he does not need to court or police coz woh eman k pehlay darjay par hai……….lolzzzzzzzzz
islam is the supreme law n ur law as followed by ghazi was unislamic…..
u say tht those students were there on their own wishes then y they surrendered??????? eman ki kamzori ya waldain ki mohabbat????????????
molvi burqa ran out to save his life ..now he claims ijaz ul haq called him out ….lolz……..tehreek uss nai burqa pehn k chilani thi??????ijaz ul called or not i dont know but where was his brain..if he can be forced to come on ptv aur ghongat utha saktay hain which later was claimed as a result of pressurre then aunty shamim;s confession may also hv been due to pressure…..umme hassan k baray mai apko pata nahi lekin u live in g6 …g6 ppl know everything….lolz……basically u dont know how to defend this lady!!!!!!! sab jan bacha k bhagay thay….
ghazi ki qabar sai khushboo atti hai …hahaha….when u turn frm f 10 chowk on kashmir highway a stinking smell greets u coming from h8 graveyard…woh kiyon atti hai??????? i hv never heard someone say tht janat ul baqeeh sai khusboo aai ya sahaba ki qabar sai khusboo aai….wats the religious significance???
u say tht eman ka pehla darja k burai ko roko.a lot of ppl hv used abusive language on this site..some hv even called me kafir.u hv not so far shown ur emaan by even condemning their words……..shaid iss liyay k woh lal masjid ko support kartay hain…..wow……..
last week on nadia khan show hamid mir claimed tht a girl frm jamia hifza wearing suicide belt came to him as she was angry over govt etc etc……..if hamid mir was correct frmwhere did the girl get the jacket?????????
students of jamia/lal masjid call everyone kafir…umme hassan is a regular guest on ajj/geo…she says the same…..n u tell me tht i shd hear their recordings……..mai aisay jahilon ki bakwas sunnun????????????
sorry noman islam kekab kaha ke burai dekho katal kardo meney kaha hath se roko kya anti shammem ko lalmasjid ne katal kiya shammmmmeeeeeee.and pml nawaz jeet gayeh tum ne uper bakwas ke ke lalmasjid ka supporter nehi jeta islamabad mei 2 umedwar pml nawaz ke lalmasjid ke sath thay wo jeet gayeh aur wo lalasmid conference mei bhi shareek thay meney tujhe jawab dia hai pagal apnay sawal parhle phir bol and 4 gawah zanah ke liyeh chahia hotay hai agar koi khulayeh am burai ka adaa chalaraha ho us ke liyeh 4 gawah ke zarorat nehin hai pura muhalah witness deraha hai see ary news hahahhaa anti shameem ke rishtaydar.court ke bat kartay ho 25 sal se us ke muhalay walo ne kitney dafa court mei gayeh pata hai bachay ko wo phir shekh rasheed ke wajah se adalat case na diar karti the waise lalmasjid walo ko agar ilzam lagana he tha thu koi aur aurat par kyoun na lagatay.aur phir pir vidai ke bat kartay ho tum wo lalmasjid se bohot dur they dosri bat mei janay ko tayar hun un ko mei mana karo ga khud akela tum adress do ya sath chalo allah janta hai isb mei jahan mujhe pata chala hai meney mana kia he kalat kam karnay se.g 11 guest house jahan 1 weak pehlay chapa para wahan bhi un ko meney mana kia tha.agent gazi nehi tum HO tum kya allah ho naozbillah jo american agent kehtay ho dil ka hal allah janta hai.taliban zindabad khudkush 65ke jang mei pakistani ne ijad kiya tha ab mza lo khudkush ka haaaaaaaaaa.umehasan is principle of jamiah hafsa and mei un se nehin mila tab kehta ho ke mei zaida nehin janta aur kuch…shaheed ke kabar se khusbu atti hai sach hai yeh and afghanistan mei 2001 mei shuru mei taliban ke kabro se bhi yahi khusbu ayeh the.2nd jo tum h8 kabristan ke bat karte ho tu jehan badbo atti hai waha cda ke kora para hwa hai jaha aaj kal fast ka bord laga hwa hai jab ke kabristan kuch fasle par hai han agar shuda ke qabar se boo ayeh tu phir pato i wILL ALSO COME AND SEE.MEI F 11 MEI REHTA HO JAB KE MEI AKSAR US ROAD SE PINDI JATA HON.2ND KAFIR KE BAT NEHI MEI CONDEM KARTA HO PEHLEY BHI KAHA HAI KE AISE KEHNA JIAZ NEHIN TUM NE MUJHE PAR ILZAM LAGA DIA JO LOG KAFIR KEHTAY HAI ALLAH UN KE GUNAHO MEI IZAFAH KARAY GA LEKIN QURAM MEI AYAT KA TARJUMA HAI JO LOG ALLAH KE DE HWE SHARIAT KE MUTABIK FAISLE NEHIN KARTAY WO KAFIR HAIN SO THINK …..tabhi kehta hoo pehley information lo phir bolo ab kab tum islamabad mei he rehtay ho tum 1 guzarish hai ke ap mujhe se milo mei aap se umer mei chota zaror hon ga par phir bhi app milo and umehasan condem sucide bombings but i really like accurate sucide bombing jis mei koi begunah na mara jayeh bare mei tujh ko kuch pata nehi.meney .
aur mei g6 mei kuch arsa raha ho mei udhar 2 sal parha hoo pcc apara mei aur mere nani nana mamo sab g 6 mei rehtay hai and jamiahafsa jaha khatm hota hai waha samne walay ghar maray college dost fawad ke hai agar yakeen nehin jao pata karlo.
U talk abt allegations but im astonished abt ur language..u call me aunty shamim ka rishtaydar…….absolutely in bad faith…..otherwise we all r related through adam and eve…..u talk about 4 witnesses this requirement is there to prove hud tht too if someone has actually seen the act of intercourse…the muhallay wallas could not hv seen the act only suspicions…..the only way this can be otherwise is if some of the accusers were themselves clients…..kindly also quote the various fir numbers or judicial complaints as claimed by u…..this basically was a publicity gimmick…I cannot vouch for aunty shamims character but I can also not defame her because I do not hv witnesses to prove it…..aunty umme hassan has also launched a tohmat on neelofar bakhtiyar I hope she has references to prove hud otherwise she herself deserves korras……( jinnah news paper last week) ……I hv heard the interviews of 313 brigade of jamia hifza headed by umme hassan on aljazeera…….the educated girls consider every one outside jamia hifza even a little bit different frm them as non muslims…….u urself support suicide bombings…..wow.can u prove it by Quran n sunnat..khudkushi is the extreme of nashukri and na umeedi……….Allah is with those who hv patience……u say suicide bomber targeting gunnahgars is jaiz….kindly prove if such can happen in this world ……how is it decided and who does it declaring tht all the targets are gunnahgar……I once asked tht where did ghazi sahib involved himself in tabligh or in attempts to change the minds of ppl around him………aside frm political statements and criminal acts he does not hv any track record……. THE SAME CHANNELS LIKE GEO ARY AJJ ETC HV SHOWN LIVE COVERAGE OF SERMONS BY MAULANA BURQA AND GHAZI THREATNING THE GOVT TO HIS SUICIDE BOMBINGS…….
U still did not answer tht y ghazi was asking for safe passage …..y the cowards of jamia hifza / lal masjid surrender???????????????? Tab islam kahan tha……..tab eman kamzor kiyon huwa…………..
Mian biwi bhag gayay….aik ki biwi pehlay hi bahir thi I don’t know y…….aur aik nai pursakoon zindgi guzarnay k liyay safe passage maan raha tha……….lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ab Islamabad mai chappay partay hain…….the same used to happen before……….i agree with u tht these things shd happen………the govt has also stopped burai verbally n by force in lal masjid…………..nawaz sharif is the biggest cheeni chor…ajkal atta chor…….unko elect kar k app nai islam aur Pakistan ki both khidmat ki……wen petrol will reach 150 per litre and nawaz bhai will buy another qasae e saroor I hope prostitution will be finished in pak……….
Waisay aside frm prostitution and parda there is nothing wrong with our society…….app bhio brothels ki talash mai jatay hain……..cheeni chor k hath kab katain gai???????molvion ko jhoot bolnay sai kab rokay gai???????? Achi baat aap bhi kehnay ka saleeqa kab sekhain gai…………. UR A VERY LEARNED AND GUD MUSLIM,ITS TIME FOR U TO ACT.
U wanted to go to pir vidhai…im amazed…….ur an authority on brothels in isb but ur unaware abt faizabad n pir vidhai…….wat abt shahi muhalla in lhr??????? Recently almost all channels namely geo tv one hv done progs by taking interviews of sex workers…….
1 worker on tv one wanted to get married and leave prostitution…y don’t u help her out.i hv yet to hear some one frm lal masjid doin any public service on this regard…….even maulana burqa can ask aunty shamims hand in marriage coz 1 as per u unhon nai toba kar li…..2. 4 shadion ki ijazat hai………3…unko izzat ki zindgi bhi mil jayay gi…….actually including u app sirf tohmat lagatay hain, mana kartay hain practical help koi nahi karta………..bas yehi apki interpretation hai islam ki.
next plz type in english as its very difficult to read roman urdu when ur giving a detailed answer!!!!!!
moreover while referring to Quran give surat/ayat no….
kindly also prove all actions in light of sunnat……..kidnapping for watever reason is not permited by islam……….chinese girls and aunty shamim jaisi bhi thi but y were all of them abducted????????????????????
being in g6 u n ur friends/family did not join in the SO CALLED JIHAD ….y not……u support them so much magar shaid sirf baton tak…………jaan apko bhi bari piyari thi…….hehehehe
shaheedon ki khushboo sirf cda k korray sai dub gaee?????itnay anmbia ki qabrain mojood hain…sahaba ki mojood hain lekin khusbooain sirf afghanistan ya ghazi sahib ki qabar sai atti hai…….
pata nahi kitna ittar dala jata ho ga uskay mureedon ki tarf sai……….smile on a dead bodys face is due to relaxation of muscles……yeh sab karamat daba peeron ki hoti hai………those who were martyreed in afghanistan were they only fighting with russians or against fellow muslims???????? russians left in 88 wat sort of jihad were muslims waging against each other???????????
if molvi burqa can come out wearing a burqa on ijaz ul saying i seriously doubt his aqal o fehm……….the same goes for all his followers………
25 saal muhallay walay jatay rahay yeh app kehtay hain.lal masjid bhi kafi purani hai………if aunty shamim was corrupt y did masjid ppl tolerated for so long.y act only when the govt was acting against illegal encroachment by jamia hifza i.e last yr …actually yeh chanday par chalnay walay molvion ki apna chanda bachanay ki koshish thi……….( do tell me fir complaints no )
for maulana burqa’s bail/release all lal masjid ppl go to court kachahri and this is given due coverage in news papers and tv but i hv never heard these ppl goin to courts against aunty shamim or chinese parlor……..moreover they never targeted any any other social ills like corruption, law n order,street crimes, wani, swara, rape etc etc etc….no press conference by lal masjid ppl or these pure neighbours mentioned in the media ever before……….it all came on tv, papers last yr……..pehlay emaan /islam khamosh tha….
app brothels mai manna karnay jatay hain…….or keep gathering info abt them……dont u hv anything better to do……..i also hear a lot of things abt prostitution etc……but i never go after such places which are suspicious……
a lot of bad things happen in remote areas of all 4 provinces.in balochistan and places near the village of ghazi sahib women are paraded naked on the drop of a hat…..women are also sold openly to men frm affluent families in chitral and northern areas………
y dont u help these ppl.there issue is not prostitution maybe ur only interested in brothals n prostitutes becoz ghazi sahib used it as a publicity gimmik…..
u say tht cinema houses shd be burnt………y…..ram chand pakistani is being released next week…..it does not not revolve around songs and dances.the issue is very real and true……bad movies shd not be made…vulgarity shd not be supported……….not all movies are bad…….for their political purpose ghazi sahib , umme hassan and other girls from lal masjid appear on same tv channnels supported by programmes/adds promoting vulgarity……kia yeh ghalat nahi???????????
meetha meetha hip hip karwa karwa tumhara…..hahaha
(((((((waisay i would really like an an explaination and appology for u calling me AUNTY SHAMIM KA RISHTAYDAR))))))))
donot give selected answer..answer both my posts…..
fazool logic , allegations sai jawab na dena behtar hoga….
when the first khaip of girls surrendered from lal masjid they were giving interviews on geo tht we havnt been given rs 5000 as promised by govt……………..kia hi jazba tha
sajid khan this i cannot decide tht mr ghazi wud be put in hell coz its allah to decide not us ….neither i call anyone kafir…….only i say is he did wrong……..we humans are nobody to call anyone jahanummi, kafir , qadiyani…………….yes a debate can be done on acts on the basis or right n wrong, islamic or unislamic….
Assalamoalikum
may is baat say mukammil ittifaq karta hun k GHAZI sahab SHAHEED or pak army jahannumi hay
Hey Noman why you deny that you are not an Ahmadi.
I know who you are ..
Why all this propaganda on internet forums and pretending at the same time that you are not an Ahmadi.
What ever you say is not credible , you are a liar and your job is to divide , confuse and dilute main stream Islam.
lolzzzzzz…another tactic to confuse the issue…..
sab se pehley anti shameem ke rishtaydar g 11 guset house brothel jahan mei gaya unho ne khud tasleem kiya ke idhar galat kam hota hai mei ghar ke under nehi gaya.aur us ka mujhe 1 larkay ali ne bataya tha.2nd jab 65 ke jang mei tank ke under walay ko khudkush se marna jiaz hai tub ab kyoun nehin us wakt bhi koi indian musalman tank chalaraha ho ga.3rd rashid menhas se nishanehaider wapis liya jayeh kyoun ke us ne khudkushi ke hahah.lalmasjid walay free quran aur burkha har sal logo ko detay thay for your kind information pechlay 7 salo se.aur is ke elawa 8october ke zalzalay mei lalmsajid walo ne boht madad ke aur jihadi tanzimo ne bhi khud mussaraf zalil manta hai hahaha.kehtay ho lalmsajid walo ne kya kam kiye.fir ke bat kartay ho to tum isb mei retay ho meray sath chalo agar thanay walo ne fir darg ke tu mei mano ga tum ko.thana margallah ke asi shakuat ali ke pas jao sabak sikhay ga tum ko wo aaj kal wo chakshazad thanay mei hota hai jan.cinema ke bat achi lagi par aaj tak 1 asi film ka name bata jis mei larki ne pura parda kiya ho lolz.hhaahahh
Will Of Ghazi (R.A) English version
When this letter reaches, you those inside Lal Masjid might have been martyred. Around 15,000 security forces and paramilitary troops with all their sophisticated weaponry would have crushed unarmed and innocent students. They would have conquered the Lal Masjid and Jamiah Hafsah. Lal Masjid is looking like Karbala at this time. The scattered bodies of martyrs, the cries of wounded students, the destroyed minarets of mosque and its four walls are crying for we have been only been punished for demanding Islamic Shariah for which 600,000 people were martyred when Pakistan came into being.
In this entire scenario the unexpected arrest and interview of the Head Cleric of Lal Masjid and the founder of the student’s movement Maulana Abdul Aziz dressed in a Burqa caused a lot of disappointment among the Islamists. The Media deliberately tried to paint a wrong picture of it and most of the people were deceived. Ordinary people thought that Maulana Abdul Aziz was trying to escape from the fear of death and he was leaving behind his sincere companions and students. Those people who don’t have any abilities to analyze the situation should think that if Maulana Abdul Aziz was really trying to escape from death then why would his son, daughter, mother, wife, and myself (his brother), his sincerest companions and students not follow the same strategy?
I believe that instead of refuting allegations of our opponents it is more relevant to tell our broken hearted supporters that Maulana Abdul Aziz became a victim of enemy’s conspiracy. Even though there is a certain mystery is drawn over his arrest, with the passage of time the truth will be revealed. We know how much Maulana Abdul Aziz loves martyrdom in the way of Allah and what an enthusiastic Mujahid he is in the caravan of Jihad. The only mistake he made was trusting some people at a very critical time and he will have to suffer the consequences of this mistake. The truth is that Maulana Abdul Aziz was not afraid of death; neither was he fleeing from it. He had written his will, taken Ghusl and was waiting for martyrdom but then a ray of hope that the lives of the rest of the people could be saved created the resulting trouble. Rest assured, that in the near future the trith will be revealed,
I must say that Maulana Abdul Aziz and his companions started the movement only for the pleasure of Allah and implementation of Shariah. The amendments in Hududullah [limits set by Allah], destruction of mosques, the spreading of vulgarity and nudity, self made explanations of Islamic creed, military assaults on the Jihadists, handing over Muslims to Kuffar’s prisons like sheep and goats, and the wide-spread secularism were not bearable for us and these are the reasons why we decided to launch the movement. I also want to clarify that none of the students inside Lal Masjid or Jamiah Hafsah were forced to stay with us. All the students remained with us at their own will. Their hearts have been changed by hearing the speeches of Maulana Abdul Aziz.
I also want to mention that we want the just system of Islam in our country. We are looking forward to seeing the implementation of Shariah laws in the courts of justice. We want the poor to have justice and bread. We want to end bribery, illegal methods, favoritism, injustice, and vulgarity. The solution to all these problems is the implementation of Islam and that is the only solution. This is the order of Allah and also a demand of the constitution of Pakistan. We have denied the comforts of this life and instead have chosen the difficulties of this path. We are fully aware of what we are doing and we have chosen the life of the hereafter over the life of this world.
The courage of students with me is sky high and I would not be wrong in saying that their courage is a source of motivation for me. I ask what crime have these students committed? Is the punishment of standing in the way of Allah with the intention of correction of some wrong people a reason to destroy innocent people with explosives? There are people who claim that we challenged the writ of the state but why did they deny the laws of Allah and challenged His writ? These people who have fired bullets on the bodies of students of Quran and Hadeeth are oppressors indeed.
On this occasion the media has also shown its biased behavior. but we leave this matter with Allah. In the end, as a part of my will, I would repeat my words to the Islamists, the members of our movement, the students, their relatives and the media that our movement was started with sincere purposes. We remain firm on our demands of implementation of Shariah. We are satisfied that we chose the way of sacrifice. Sacrificing life for the implementation of Islam is an honor to us. We are not disappointed in the mercy of Allah and we believe that our blood will become the message of revolution. This world sometimes labeled us as the agents of taghut and sometimes they labeled as us mad fanatics. But today the rain of bullets is proof that we are fighting in the way of Allah. Indeed the people of truth faced different trials. If our Amir Sayyidina Hussein R.A. was martyred in helplessness then we are proud to be part of the same caravan. InshaAllah, the Islamic revolution will come to this country.
The Gardens will perceive spring but we will not be there to see it
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Allah has arranged a very strange system for the Shuhada. There is all enjoyment, all peace and all honour in this system. By the Lord of Ka’ba, if we understand that system, we will not bother to live in this world even for a minute. What is there in this world than fraud, lie, diseases, worries, fights, quarrels, sins and restlessness? The Shaheed will be asked in the Paradise what more he yearns. He will answer, “O my Lord, send me to the earth again so that I may be martyred again.” O yes, return from the Paradise just for martyrdom. Allah-o-Akbar! O yes, the place where there are the palaces made of gold, silver and jewels, holy pious celestial wives, no worry, no disease, but the company of the Prophets and the Sahaaba(RA), the horses that fly in the air, unique health and youth and everything that man can yearn for i.e. neither fear nor anxiety. But the Shaheeed is ready to give up all for the sake of the blessings that he gains at the time of martyrdom. Today, when I began to write, I missed the Shahada very much.
The politics of the country does not deserve only discussion. These days, it is not politics. It is open terrorism i.e. the American’s phones, Parvez Musharrif’s obstinacy and personal limitations of Mr. Asif Zardary. Pakistan is, no doubt, under torment; the country that sided with the Pagans and killers is groaning under the load of sins. The smoke of oppression is still rising from Jamia Hafsa, Baajorr, Waziristan, Swat and Karachi. But I smell the fragrance of the blood of the martyrs from this smoke. The Shuhada of Karachi like Hazrat Ludhianvi, Hazrat Shaamzai (RH), Hazrat Jameel (RH) and Mufti Iqbal (RH), the Shuhada of Jamia Hafsa like Ghazi Abd-ur-Rasheed, Maulana Maqsood Ahmad and a number of dear sisters and daughters, the Shuhada of Baajorr and Waziristan i.e. innocent pious sons and daughters; in which were all these killed? But Allah be thanked, the retired military officers are talking sense. Would that the present day Generals had also remembered that they had been born to the Muslim mothers. The voice of Azaan also echoed in their ears. They have also recited the Kalma of Hazrat Muhammad . Then why are they becoming the soldiers of Bush? Do they not remember their death, grave, Madina and the Hauz-e-Kausar or will they also speak the truth only after retirement?
Allah abominates the Pagans and does not accept any of their good deed. The Noble Quran has clarified this fact time and again. Then how fair is it to cooperate with the Pagans and to become a part of their unholy unity? Keep it in mind, those who side with the Pagans can also become the butt of Allah’s abomination and wrath—- and they are becoming. There were also a few Muslims in the army of Abu Jahl; the Muslims who were swept by the circumstances. These people lived in Makkah. When Abu Jahl set out with his forces, they also came out with them. They would say to one another that they would make the final decision after the face to face encounter in the battlefield. If they saw some power in the Muslims, they would profess Islam openly and join the Muslims. But if they did not see any power there, they would remain attached with their nation i.e. Polytheists, because they are to live in the world and run with the times. The Abu Jahl swarm reached the field of Badr with pomp and show, weapons, arms, bands, dancing, singing, pride, haughtiness and the war might. The Muslims also stood before them; very weak, unarmed, mild, shoeless, unarmed; a few had swords in their hands that were broken, the others had only sticks, cudgels and stones in their hands. There was the clamour of the camels and horses in the army of the Polytheists whereas there were supplications and sighs in the army of the Muslims. Then the skies began to tremble. Hazrat Jibrail Amin with the army of angels landed on the earth on his horse “Haizoom.” The accursed Satan with his millions of disciples also descended to the side of Abu Jahl. When the Muslims in the army of the Polytheists saw this, they cried out, “Today, the Muslims have come out just to die. How can these few unarmed weak Muslims counter this huge army? There will be no fight today rather one sided proceeding. Abu Jahl and his army will wipe out the Muslims within a few minutes or in the words of Sheikh Rasheed will make them omelette.” O yes, the naked eyes were observing this only. Therefore, those policy-stricken Muslims remained the part of the Infidel army. When the war started, those unlucky people were killed. The Noble Quran tells us that all of them were pushed into the hell. While seizing their souls, the angels beat them well and said to them, “What did you do?” They answered, “We were weak. So we became a part of the Polytheists out of constraint.” The angels did not accept this answer. They beat them with the whips of fire and drove them to punishment. O Allah! we seek thy protection. What is the similarity between the merriments of Shuhada and the torments to those who sided with the Pagans? O yes, I am missing the Shuhada today very much i.e. Huzaifa, Talha and Paamla who were killed around Babury Masjid, then Arsalan, Bahoo and his companions who sacrificed their lives after them. Babury Masjid is the daughter of Ka’ba and the esteem of Islam. It was right to raise voice at it, not a crime. Those who taunt those who raise a voice in favour of Babury Masjid Movement may weaken and Advani may build a temple there and they may take the sermon deliverers to inaugurate that temple who taunt us. “Where did you keep sleeping at the time of Lal Masjid who raise voices for Babury Masjid. Lal Masjid is also the daughter of Ka,ba.” No one has forgotten it nor a Muslim can forget it. Allah be thanked, Azaan and Namaz is also performed there. May it continue till the Doomsday! The pulpit of the Lal Masjid may again be blessed with the voice of Hazrat Maulana Abdul-Aziz who is the son of a Shaheed, the father of a Shaheed, the brother of a Shaheed and the nephew of a Shaheed. Actually, I have started the study of the Surah of the Noble Quran named “Surah Muhammad” whose another name is “Al-Qital.” Our Holy Prophet has a very deep relation with Jihad and Qital. Those who do not believe in Jihad and Qital, actually, do not believe in Hazrat Muhammad . I have been accumulating the gems on Jihad in this Surah. More than forty-five pages have been written till verse number four. There is command of Jihad as well as those of prisoners of war. There is excellence of Shuhada at the end of the Surah which extends to two more verses.
I was reading the commentary of the commentators and envying at the Shuhada. Allah-o-Akbar! The Shuhada have gained great success. But only the Holy Prophet knew the high position of martyrdom or only that knows who is killed. Allah had told and shown this position to the Holy Prophet . Therefore, he, time and again, yearned for martyrdom in this world whereas his position is much higher than the Shuhada. The others know of the excellences of martyrdom but they come to know of its actual position and the practical blessings after martyrdom. That is why; the Shaheed will yearn to return to the world after entering Paradise. I was studying the excellences of Shuhada and feeling sorry for the people who write journals to lessen the importanace of martyrdom and in their fancy, they plead the true Din. Allah be thanked, the righteous people are themselves sensible. They do not need anyone’s pleading. The Shuhada of Afghanistan are the pioneers of Jihad in this age. Ten thousand Shuhada of Dasht-e-Laila! How strange is the figure ten thousand! When the Khaaqanis attacked Kharasaan during the reign of Hazrat Usman Ghani (RA), the entire army of the Muslisms was martyred in that battle which numbered ten thousand. The Noble Quran tells us time and again that Allah does not need anyone’s Jihad. He can kill the Pagans Himself if He wills. But He enjoined Jihad so that He might judge who is the true Muslim and who is the so-called Muslim. He enjoined Jihad so that some Muslims might be blessed with the high position of martyrdom. Now every Muslim should peep into his heart, “At what place is he standing in this trial?” A few days ago, I was walking on foot. A few young men of schools and colleges were talking about “Jihad” in a loud voice. All of them had western dressed and western styles. They were saying, “Actual Jihad is the Jihad of the “Self” and this is the greatest Jihad. I was astonished at this net of Satan. Approx 558 verses of the Noble Quran have described Jihad. That is not the real Jihad rather the minor Jihad? If the people who write books on “Jihad with Self” had gone out with the people that the “Jihad of Self” whom people are calling greater Jihad is comprehensive Jihad of Hazrat Ibrahim Ablah, Hazrat Ibn-e-Mubarik, Hazrat Imaam Raazi and Hazrat Imaam Ghazaali rather it is the Jihad of Mirza Qadiani. He has raised this voice and has tried to weaken the importance of the obligation of Jihad in the way of Allah. If you do not believe, go to the people and ask them. They do not know the meaning of Jihad with the “Self.” On whose basis have they humiliated the research work on Jihad?
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Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and reason with them in the best manners possible” (Sura Al-Nahl 16, Ayah 125)
BEFORE REPLYING TO POSTS LEARN MANNERS………the language u used is filthy n degrading…….the use of word zaleel and aunty shamim k rishtaydar shows ur low mentality………
Rather than applogy u use these words again and again as all of the lal masjid ppl and supporters…this shows tht u lack knowledge and cannot answer in a logical and decent manner…….your education rather lack of it is evident from this…
U say tht one person in g 11 confessed tht bad things happen there…maybe…..as far as aunty shamim deeds this was told to u by mr ali…..as per Islamic law 4 witnesses are required even before launching an allegation…..tht too if they hv seen the actual act…plz clarify ur position not from muhallay wala gawahis but actual eye witnesses…….
As far as ur reference to 65 war plz quote the battle exact i.e location date etc so tht I can check dates……….as far as Rashid minhas is concerned the act cannot be termed as suicide as he was fighting an enemy officer on board tht plane…..however ur attempt to belittle a daring officer and compare him with those who take innocent lives shows ur sick mentality…….only two ppl died as a result of tht plane crash…1 was an Indian agent…..
The fav tactics of lal masjid supporters is loud accusations…now u hv started accusing some asi in some police station……u hv convieniently forgotten ur accusation and hv not supported it when I asked u to prove tht lal masjid ppl had gone to the police or launched an fir/judicial complaint……I presume u to be a dangerous person as u support suicide bombings and terrorist therefore meeting u is out of question….
Ur very rite when u say tht madrissas and many Islamic org did a lot of gud work after the quake…president musharraf acknowledged it terming them the best ngos in the world….. u admit these words from him but say tht everything else which goes against u are lies……similarly a lot of gud work was done by the army, the police and other law enforcing agencies….many of our soldiers were martyred during search operations ..however u will not praise them as u seem to be anti Pakistan
Lal masjid ppl distributed free Qurans kash Quran parh bhi letay…..they used to distribute burqas even to men…maulna burqa is a living example……the funniest thing is tht all these jihadi org are doin jihad against muslims…none is fighting against America , India or Israel……if u want to wage jihad plz do so in other countries than Pakistan..dont destroy ur own country….
Waisay momin ki nigahein neechi honi chahyein but ur interest in brothels and films says otherwise……HOWEVER I ASKED THE REASON Y UMMEHASSAN N HIFZIANS ARE SO HAPPY TO APPEAR ON TV THE SAME MEDIA WHO DOES NOT WEAR COMPLETE CLOTHES……MUNAFIQAT
WILL OF GHAZI……………….. LOLZ
First para…..claims tht there were unarmed students inside the mosque…lolz……itna bara jhoooooooooooot………I myself hv seen students holding weapons , wearing masks outside the lal mosque…….u may claim tht many weapons were placed later by the govt…maybe but wat of the weapons which everyone saw before and during the operation on various tv channels.secondly ghazi was fighting for shariah lolz I hv already clarified tht he was only trying to protect an illegal madrissa which was the biggest chanda gathering place for lal masjid…
Second and thirds para……..reffered to maulana burqa
He left behind his mother and son, wife and brother….lolzzzzzz….it was as per plan…pehlay mai jan bacha k bhagun ga then the gr8 umme hassan…the son was not allowed by terrorist inside..maybe ghazi was also a hostage to the same terrorist…he himself was supporting…the same ppl for whom safe passage was demanded by ghazi…..waisay maut sar par ho tou maa bhi bhool jati hai as proven by maulana burqa…………….the theory of conspiracy against maulana burqa proves one thing tht maulana sahib was extremely foolish and thus not able to lead any one…………..
• Y did ghazi was asking for safe passage …where shariat sank at tht time?
• Y umme hassan surrendered?
• Y jamia hifza were demanding 5000 when they surrendered?
• Y all the students surrendered?
• Y ghazi sahib claimed there are no children inside?
4th para…………. All the students infact wanted to surrender however only a fewcwere permitted by the terrorist to surrender and come out……he talks abt shariat…where was shariat at the time of asking for safe passage?????? Infact everyone wanted to save his/her life……….
Last paras………they r just emotional cra p attemptiong to fool ppl tht the movement was in any way Islamic………
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“Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and reason with them in the best manners possible” (Sura Al-Nahl 16, Ayah 125)
the word of allah is supreme therefore I will use the same verse u reffered to at the end of ur post…….please act on it…please don’t use abusive language………..allah says tht one shd invite ppl with beautiful words,preaching , wisdom, reason and in the best manners possible
when did ghazi sahin did all tht??????????????????????????? He straight away went for jihad against fellow muslims, abducting women, buirning property, killing fellow muslims………this ayat proves tht ghazi sahib was doing unislamic things
u hv yet not been able to prove abduction, slander etc in the light of Quran n sunnat….ummehassan is still doin the same unislamic activities…….maybe for u burning of girls school in swat is also true shariat
obviously u hv copied the entitre post from somewhere…atleast be original …for me the true martyrs were those soldiers and police men who died protecting the lives of countless others from suicide bombers sent out by maulana burqa n his followers…..
u support suicide bombing may Allah give u guidance………
u hv still not answered any of my questions of my previous posts like
• Where did maulana brothers preech in beautiful words as ordered by allah aside from lal masjid.
• Did they honestly believe tht by giving sermons in a small mosque of a small sector of isb they could change the fate of the country and muslim world as a whole….
• Y do all lal masjid supporters call everyone who opposes them as kafir?
• Ask hamid mir tht how student of jamia hifza obtained a suicide jacket?
• Are there no other social ills / unislamic acts being done in the society.y do all molvis go after brothels?
• Is there any document which spells out how shariat implementation would be carried out acceptable to all sects?
• Y ghazi brothers accepted pay from the same ghair sharaee nizam and that too from ghair sharaee bank and ghair sharee president?
• Did ghazi obtained permission from all the parents for the students participation in jihad?
SAB SAI BARI BAAT Y DID NOT U JOIN THEM IN THIS SO CALLED JIHAD????????
Kaaba ki koi betian nahi…prove me otherwise from Quran….
Plz come up with logic supported by Quran…defend ghazi;s actions through Quran and I mean each one of them…show from sunnat tht prophet p.b .u.h nowzubillah ever abducted a woman????? Show from the sunnat of sahaaba tabaeens or taba tabaeens their indulgence in slander and killing fellow muslims……..also support suicide bombing from Quran and not from 65 war….
Ur repeating things in your blogs …hv some sense……………im still waiting for your apology for all the bad words u use……….
I like approach of Waqas , he looks sincere and truthful.
Where as Noman is some clever guy who is trying to be a well wisher of Muslims but actually he is not.
Noman is trying to lower self esteem of Muslims and he tries to ridicule and produce guilt in them.
:)))))))))))))))))) sultan u must be a g 6 fellow, friend of waqas……………..i really appreciate comments with logic…………only statements does not matter……………but i respect ur opinion as u hv this right to express……….i also admire u for ATLEAST not abusing……..well if u think im clever i will say tht i m not impressed with emotional bulshit of anyone……………….Allah knows well tht im sincere or not……..im questioning ghazi;s acts not his personality……..anyways neva mind!!!!!!
my questions still unanswered
I like approach of Waqas , he looks sincere and truthful.
laughs out loud
maybe calling aunty shamim k rishtaydar,zaleel musharraf ,supporting suicide bombing, burning property,slandering allegations,believing every other person as a lesser muslim with less knowledge of islam & more makes u believe tht he looks sincere and truthful…………i agree he is sincere with ghazi sahib but watever he or ghazi sahib believes does not make them true muslims as their brand and interpretition of shariat is not in accordance with Quran n sunnat……..
it would hv been better instead of praising mr waqas u shd hv helped him out with what he?(waqas) is failed to do that is to defend ghazis acts………..
i can myself write such posts which favour me and oppose waqas or anyother with the opposite view……..but its useless………..
the blog is not of me ,waqas, musharraf,meera g , any ahmadi or kadiani etc etc…….its of ghazi abdul rasheed and his students……..
well u all know tht but its just another way of confusing, twisting the attention frm the discussion…….
yes one shd be clever so tht ppl like ghazi shd not fool around……..
hehehehehehe
waqas u shd not focus on these posts as they r not for u ….im waiting for the answer (if u hv of) the posts above sultan;s…………so plz dont try to confuse the issue
waqas the ayat at the end of ur last post shd be the guidline so tht u write in a decent manner………..
im still waiting for an appology of the bad words u used………….
abusing does not make any body correct……….plzzzzzzzzzz
noman your question will be answerd soon.iam out of city iam using mobile gprs so cant reply but will answer ypur questions vvv sooon.
ok no problem
gazi sahib saheed is kay waja say pakistan per ya halat hay
lolzzzzzzzzzzzz
woh zinda thay tou kia farq tha??????
unkay bhai bhabi students zinda hain uss sai kia farqc par raha hai??????????
my questions still unanswered!!!!!!!
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i know its impossible to give explaination for ghazi;s actions………
all his supporters fail to answer and leave one by one……..
laughs out loud!!!!!!
Masoom logon ko qatal karney wala, zaleel bhee hoaa to kiss kai hath. Apney aaaqaa kai naey badmash kai hath.
Jo sachey they woh shaheed hoey,
jo luchey they woh zaleel hoey.
Allah ko chor kar dosron ko apna walee banaogey to yahee hogaa.
Yaa Allah tabah kur Muslmanon aur Islam kai dushmanon ko, AMEEEN.
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
i knew ppl waiting here for this day…………
zal;eel tou ghazi bhi hua hai
who says he is shaheed
jo apni jaan bachanay k liyaey safe passage maang raha tha????????????????????
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
bhaijaaaaaaan my answers still unanswered………dont try to confuse it by taking musharraf;s name………musharraf apni jaga ghalat tou yeh joh islam ka naam lai k gand ghol rahay thay unn k baray mai kia kahain gai………….
its been 1 yr on this blog no body so far been able to defend ghazi;s actions in light of Quran n sunnat…….
lolzzzzzzzzz adhay jaan bacha k bhaag gayay masjid sai……adhay safe passage mang rahay thay…..
tou shaheed kesay????????????????????
i dont defend musharraf……
remember this blog is of ghazi abdul rasheed and not of musharraf
kitnay dukh ki baat hai k jo usko support kartay hain they hv nothing to say to defend him saway uskay k woh 4 gaalian dosron ko nikal dein ya logon ko kafir keh dain
what a shame and pity!!!!!!!!
the suicide bombings in wah hv claimed more than 70 muslims lives ………….shame on ghazi and all others who train suicide bombers and support suicide bombings
before ghazi;s death he used to claim tht he has suicide bombers inside lal masjid .thank allah tht they are all dead
the current bombing and the one in melody chowk must hv been carried out by ppl of the same sort
SHAME ON ALL THOSE WHO THINK THT THIS IS ISLAM!!!!!!
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all ghazi lovers please welcome respected zardari as ur new president…….
ab ghazi k khawab ki tabeer ka waqt aagia……ghazi ki shariat jo k Quran aur sunnat k munaffi hai ab saheeh meaning mai nafiz ho gi
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
hahahahahahaha
pakistani awam deserve it!!!!!!!!!!!!
good!!!!!!!!
all of ghazi supporters hv run off as usual……coz its impossible for jaheelens and mufsids to defend fisad they are tryin to spread…umme hassan is in hosp …may she remain there and may her hubby remain in jail forever but shaid woh bhi deal hi karein gai…..
respected asif zardari has takenover…..ab to mithaian banto………
laughs out loud!!!!!!!!!!
hats off to all those from the armed forces who embraced shihadat in the lal mosque operation…….indeed they saved us from our worst enemies tht is the jahil suicide bombers of lal mosque inc ghazi rasheed……may they kill molvi umer in a similar manner….. pak fauj zindabad, pakistasn paindabad…..
ghazi lovers …GEO ZARDARI :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))