On 12th July, AAJ Tv boradcasted a program of Live with Talat in which Talat Hussain visited Jamia Hafsa. While touring the bullet ridden compound a number of military personal hovered around, at a certain point Talat Hussain asked an accompanying Army personal about all the evidence of smoke around the area asking, “Why is there so much smoke?”, the solider replied “WP”, Talat put another question “Please explain WP?”, the solider answered “White Phosphorus.”
White Phosphorus is a flare / smoke producing incendiary weapon which is also used as an offensive Anti-Personnel flame compound capable of causing serious burns or death. White phosphorus weapons are controversial today because of its potential use against humans, for whom one-tenth of a gram is a deadly dose and according to the Geneva Convention which was later amended by the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons signed into effect in 1997, expressively prohibits the use against civilians. White Phosphorus weapons have been used in the recent past by Israel in Lebanon and US and UK in Iraq, but probably the first time ever by a an army against its own people
Article 1 of Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (Wikipedia) defines an incendiary weapon as ‘any weapon or munition which is primarily designed to set fire to objects or to cause burn injury to persons through the action of flame, heat, or combination thereof, produced by a chemical reaction of a substance delivered on the target’. The same protocol also prohibits the use of incendiary weapons against civilians or in civilian areas. However, the use against military targets outside civilian areas is not explicitly banned by any treaty.
There continues to be a strong debate on how Musharraf should have handled this situation, but what surprises me is the inhumanity of this attack, dexterity of the assault should have meant targeted exchange of fire maybe an occasional rubber bullet to pacify the milder militants, but the indiscriminate use of chemical weapons, by the National Army against its own people. Is jaw dropping serious, its akin to the mass murder which happened in Karachi on May 12th when the Army headed off to the barracks leaving the city at the hands of ruthless killers for six hours..
To understand the gravity of the situation one has only to look at these two images of burnt bodies the sight is excruciatingly painful, when the Americans used White Phosphorous on the victims in Fallujah back in April 2004.
If you look at the top most image which appeared in Dawn on 13th July (link) one sees the classic signs of a high intensity flame, which reached astounding temperatures to melt the steel framework of ceiling fans, one must also noted that the public was not shown the remains of numerous people killed in the disaster and quickly buried them in concealed wooden coffins the next day.
I am shocked and stunned at what has just happened, it should be enough for the world to wake up and ask for an unconditional removal of the dictator
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hi …i work in a uk based company and about 70% people belong to UK…and every one is pointing out our moderate government act against LAL MUSJID ….and i am speakless ….knowing the facts and i hav a Question with me with all the people of islam …r v muslim …if ur answer is YES…then explain how??? cuz muslims acta r like non muslims ….may god bless us….no bush no israeil no anti muslim power let us do an act against our people …where r human rights Organizations where r our rights ….shit on ur face MUSHARAf ….u will die a death of of a bitch ….and soon ….GOD has written the decision ….and no bush is sporting him…..byebye pakistani ppl awake
Ms.Asma show me some physical evidence that White Phosphorous used other than the TALAT Hussain saying.Now the picture you present was the classic piece of astraying people from the truth.The above picture that you mentioned had high intensity flame.And you were quick in giving links from WIKIPEDIA of White Phosphorous.Did you ever done Search On High Intensity Or High Explosives Namely Plastic explosive or C-4.The picture clearly tells us that a suicide bomber blew hime self in the room and it was also mentioned in Press briefing that most of the suicide jackets were strapeed with C-4 explosives.judging by the size of romm,if such bomb explode in a small room then things will surely melt the Fan and other white appearings due to this fact.
As Ms.Asma Put it in her article:
at a certain point Talat Hussain asked an accompanying Army personal about all the evidence of smoke around the area asking, “Why is there so much smoke?, the solider replied “WP, Talat put another question “Please explain WP?, the solider answered “White Phosphorus
The most intrestiong part of above conversation is that Our Talat saw a lot of smock, i must emphasize that point again and as put by Ms.Asma “A lot Of somck from which we could easily counclude that it was White phosphorus Smock.Now lets see what are its effect.
Exposure to white phosphorus smoke in the air can also cause liver, kidney, heart, lung or bone damage and even death.
A former US soldier who served in Iraq says breathing in smoke close to a shell caused the throat and lungs to blister
Link:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4441902.stm
WP smoke irritates the eyes and nose in moderate concentrations. With intense exposures, a very explosive cough may occur.WP may also cause liver, heart or kidney damage.
Source:Same wikipedia source given by Ms.Asma.
Now by applying Same on Talat Who saw lot of smock but never had a cough or or other symptoms of WP smock.As we shall intend to forget quickly,I shall remind you once again Talat said that There were lots of smock.But it did’nt have any effect on him.Seems Strange.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also few of you calling worse handling of the situation.Now Tell Me,didn;t goverment engage them for 6 months especially after abducting almost 10 chinese.Who initiated the whole 3rd July scenario.Now dont become emotional here and start saying that it was statred all by the government without any Proof.The whole world saw how Bura clad womans with stick in thier hands and some men with them tried to snatch things from Police.nd when police lathi charged them Some Lal masjid people shoot them.Now Didnt Government engage with LM for on whole week from 3rd july to 9th july..Now more intrestingly, didnt Molvi Ghazi asked the government to give blanket clamency to all even the murders with them and also.Then we heard contradictory reports from Ghazi Brothers that they had only few rifles and guns with them,But how come they had bombs,machine guns and other sophisticated weapons.Isnt it call a hypocrisy that too from a mullah.Didnt The government treated the students of Jamia Hafsa and fareedia very well and gave them 5000 ruppess each.Good deeds are always mean to be forgotten quickly
Ms.Asma show me some physical evidence that White Phosphorous used other than the TALAT Hussain saying.Now the picture you present was the classic piece of astraying people from the truth.The above picture that you mentioned had high intensity flame.And you were quick in giving links from WIKIPEDIA of White Phosphorous.Did you ever done Search On High Intensity Or High Explosives Namely Plastic explosive or C-4.The picture clearly tells us that a suicide bomber blew hime self in the room and it was also mentioned in Press briefing that most of the suicide jackets were strapeed with C-4 explosives.judging by the size of romm,if such bomb explode in a small room then things will surely melt the Fan and other white appearings due to this fact
Now i will explain you tactfully rather than emotionally.
Just after 9/11 attacks,America unofficially threatened Pakistan to support her in the war on terror or be ready to bombed back in to Stone age.Now this phrase contain following possible scenario.
1.India would be given green light to attack Pakistan with American support which very advance weponary.Now Pakistan due to decade old sanctions werent have any thing modern in its arsenal but atomb bomb and missiles.But at this Point you will point at me that 1 muslim soldier is enough for5 or six Kuffars.Ok. if pakistan win the war then how india could allowed us to held their terrioy than how could we save are country from the flying missiles that were to be fired from missile.This all I am saying is not some thing pulled out of my ass,but chain of events that triggered after 9/11.Indian ambassodar gainning enough support form within UN and passed resolution Pak should stop Terrorist from Kashmir or else we will retaliate back just like America.
2.US will not give green light to India but rather itself bombed the whole area of FATA itself.Now i will remind you here that America has stalth plane which means it canot be located on radar and can carry up 40000 pound ammunition which is equivalent to 18,500 KG boms.Dont believe please fell free to visit the link below to know what the heck B-2 is.
Defence Talk
Now tell me if we dont agree with America,then what the possible heck of sensible choice were left with us???????
Now come with sensible and tactfull responses rather than emotional and full of abuses,casting doubts that even did you pass The Marticulation exam.????????
Now you are bashing musharraf emotionally because he launch attacks on Lal Masjid.Now Describe Who tried to steal guns and radios from on 3rd July,my my my my my isnt it called a theft, Who shot a Ranger,my my my isnt it called a murder,Who destroyed the building of Ministry of Environment, my my my isnt it call a break in where Our Holy Prophet doesnt even break in to some body house rather knock three times and if there were no response go back.
Chemical Weapons’ Convention of the UN says:
“No it’s not forbidden by the CWC if it is used within the context of a military application which does not require or does not intend to use the toxic properties of white phosphorus. White phosphorus is normally used to produce smoke, to camouflage movement.
If that is the purpose for which the white phosphorus is used, then that is considered under the convention legitimate use.
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Once again people like Teeth Maestro have proved their willingness to resort to rumor mongering as usual.
Burning WP produces a hot, dense white smoke. Most forms of smoke are not hazardous in the kinds of concentrations produced by a battlefield smoke shell. However, exposure to heavy smoke concentrations of any kind for an extended period (particularly if near the source of emission) does have the potential to cause illness or even death.
WP smoke irritates the eyes and nose in moderate concentrations. With intense exposures, a very explosive cough may occur. However, no recorded casualties from the effects of WP smoke alone have occurred in combat operations and to date there are no confirmed deaths resulting from exposure to phosphorus smokes.[22] The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry has set an acute inhalation Minimum Risk Level (MRL) for white phosphorus smoke of 0.02 mg/m³, the same as fuel oil fumes. (By contrast, the chemical weapon mustard gas is 30 times more potent: 0.0007 mg/m³.)[23]
Therefore I am guessing… Gun powder and tear gas are also forms of chemical weapons.
Wah Pakistanion wah.
dear pakistani brothers&sisters.
KHOOB GUZRAY GEE JAB MEL BAYTHAINGAY***DO.
Benazir+shaekh rasheed
YLH, I can not use your language, you seem to be trained by fascist army in propaganda , but the use of white phasphorous in Red Mosque was to kill/burn people , there are 58 bodies which are burnt as admitted by your fascist army. And there was no possibility of using it for camouflage in red mosque.
You can not fool civilized nations though US and west will ignore for now , but later this massacre is going to come back to military generals an they should fear abu ghraib jail and death like Saddam.
Lest you forget I will remind you Saddam was hanged in case of murder of 148 people in Dujail in 1982 at that time US and west were his friends but later world saw how Saddam and his military men were shown naked in abu ghraib.
So there is a hint for you and your army in this.
i think Mr Pervez Musharruf is playing in the hand of USA. Now he brought US & Al_qaeeda war in pakistan. it is entirly his fault.
Salam
I think there is no need of giving comments there. We only see and obey what Allah has said in Holy Quran and Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W. has said in Hadith.
We are saying abt the image of Islam but what Allah has said in Holy Quran, Surah-Al-Maeda which meant;
“The honour of any person is in the hand of ALLAH the Almighty”
We are saying abt that no muslim can revolt against his Ruler:
Can anyone tell me why Hazrat Imam Ahmed bin Hanmbal has denied that Govt.? Why he says that Holy Quran is not a creature of Allah but His Book?
Why Sheikh-ul-Islam Hazrat Muhammad bin Wahab was beaten by all people even in every village?
In all times many Ulema-e-Islam was become the part of govt. but only few Ulema-e-Haq pointed out any wrong policy of Govt.
If we see in our History under the saying of Allah and His Prophet Peace be upon Him, every Ulema-e-Haq who has said against the Govt. has got severe punishments from Govt. and People said them as Rebellions in all time.
Thats why Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W. said(Which Meant), “To Obey Islam is the most difficult thing in the world near Qyamah”.
If anyone of you have studied the history of Muslims we come to know every person of MUSLIM STATE has the right to say and guide his Ruler abt the true teaching of Islam. Even Hazrat UMER-bin-KHATTAB (RA) had guided Hazrat ABU BAKKAR (RA) in case of punishment of Thief. A simple person had Guide Hazrat AMEER MA’AVIAH abt Jihad against Rome.
Hazrat MUHAMMAD S.A.W. has said “He is not Muslim who consider my Ulema-e-Deen as poor”.
Today all the predictions of Hazrat MUHAMMAD(S.A.W.) abt Qyamah is almost complete.
First we have to obey Islam first then anyone else.
The person who quote the Ayat of Sura-e-Nisa:
“Obey your Hakims”
If we see the context of this Ayat, we come to know many persons come in this term of Hakims e.g. Ulema, Rulers, Parents etc. But (Sorry) many People donot know the Main Hakim is ALLAH the Almighty. From this Ayat we have to follow the Principles of Islam not principles of any Christian Constitution.
The Persons who said, “We got bad Image of Islam”. For those I only say we have to see our History, Hazrat Abbu Bakkar(RA) have said, “Allah and His creatures disrespect the nations who Denies Jihad”. Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.W.) have said, “If you want success and want to Rule the Whole World, the only simple key is to Obey Allah the Almighty and Me (La Ilaha Illa ALLAH Muhammad ar Rasulullah)”.
For those Fundamentalists and extremists persons, Allah the Almighty says,
“Follow each and every principle of Islam”
In the Last I only want to quote only one Ayat of Sura-Al-Imran, (Ayat no. 144, which meant)
“If Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.W.) is died or slain, you will stop following Islam. The one who did this will never Harm Allah”.
If you want to become a GOOD MUSLIM OF BEST IMAGE, You have to Follow Islam completely.
Take Care and Obey Allah the Almighty,
Allah Hafiz.
Fi Amaanillah
From Muslim Brother and Student of Islam
Muhammad Saifullah Siddiqui
u all are right . i think both were responsible for lal masjid tragedy equally. 1st of all Islam has never taught us to take innocent people’s lives. Islam is the religion of Love, peace and not sucide bomb attacks and forcing people to follow the religion. Our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) never forced anyone to accept Islam rather his good deeds, his actions made people to accept Islam. Our deeds and actions should be good in order to spread Islam. Thats the time to educate people, tell them about Islam ,ISlam is not terrorism. the best exapmle is that when you stop a child from using internet at home, he will never stop, he will use internet may be at some internet cafe or friend’s home. so we dont have to stop him from using internet rather we should tell him what is bad for him, educate. These extremest dont understand that nobody can impose any thing on humans through force.
ALL TRUE MUSLIMS AND PAKISTANIS HATE MUSHARRAF (HE IS WROST THAN A PIG)
Cruel Dictator Musharraf is a killer of thousands of innocent people in all over Pakistan. He just loves his Seat and Dress not even USA. He should die and should be HANGED TO DEATH like he has done in the case of Karachi, Peshawar, Waziristan and Islamabad attacks. We all Muslims pray that may his son be killed by any one, so that he may realize WHAT IS THE PAIN.
Muslims of Red Mosque were not bad; he made them and forced them to be against him and his hunting dogs. He also kidnapped a student of Karachi University (who is still missing), who slapped on Dictator Musharrafs face in a Student Convention 2006 held in Islamabad, Pakistan. Watch this video and get it translated in English: (Musharraf thrilled by student Part 1)
The main reason why Moulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi (Shaheed) was that he knew the truth about Mushy and his policies to destroy Muslims and their Holy Book ‘Quran’. His dogs also insulted the innocent girls and women, who came out of the Red Mosque. (CNN Video, Pakistan: The threat within). His army also shot on the parents of students who were going into the Honorable Jamia Hafsa to take their children.
WE ALL LOVE HAZRAT MOULANA ABDUL RASHEED GHAZI-SHAHEED (REHMAT.ULLAH.ILLAH) AND MUSHY’S ARMY MEN WERE KILLED, AND INSHAH ALLAH HE WILL BE KILLED ALSO SOON BY THE GRACE OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH. AAMIN
ISLAM KI FITRUT MAIN QUDRUT NAY LUCHAK DI HAI…..ITNA HI YEH UBHRAY GA JITNA KEH MITAOO GAY. AL-JIHAAD AL-JIHAAD
Well done Musharraf. Please do the same against all those who are trying to spread Islam with force instead of attitude. These are the people who are spoiling the our religion and name of our beloved country.
Qamber Ali,
You observations contradict the prophets words and the Quran.
Muslim relates on the authority of Abu Sa`id (radhiallahu `anhu) that the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam said, “Whoever sees something evil should change it with his hand. If he cannot, then with his tongue; and if he cannot do even that, then in his heart. That is the weakest degree of faith.”
He also relates on the authority of Ibn Mas`ud that the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) said, “There was not a single Prophet among those who were sent before me who did not have apostles and companions and followed his Sunna and obeyed his commands. But afterwards other generations came whose words belied their deeds, and whose deeds were not in accordance with what they commanded others to do. Whoever struggles against the with his hand is a believer. Whoever struggles against them with his tongue is a believer. And whoever struggles against them with his heart is a believer. But when none of these things are done, then not a single mustard’s seed weight of faith is present.”
mr qamber ali,
we all r muslims Allhamdulillah, and being a muslim we should first peep into our ownseleves. u called musharaf a pig and his men dogs. dont u think that Allah forbids us from using abusive language. as far as i knw u r calling one muslim a pig.i knw tat u were ghazi rasheed’s admirer. im not with musharaf nor with his govt. but i didnt like the way u said wrong about our pak army. why dont we all understand one thing…our army has no fault, they r only folowing the orders. to tell u the truth i knw so many army personals which really dont like all this. you cant even think through which emotional turmoil our army must b going through. its always hard to kill someone and specially knowing that the person opposing you a also a muslim brother. itsnot an easy task. For Allah’s sake put ur selves into army’s shoes. And last but not the least our Prophet Muhammad S.A.W taught us that muslims the words they speak and deeds they do should alway be good. He S.A.W taught us to rectify such situations with peace and love.
I liked the action govt has taken. the govt should have done it lot before
Salam
Definition of Muslim by Quran :
“Those who hear the orders of Allah and his Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and implement it without any hasitation r true Muslims”
History repeats itself.
Only few person knows that a Muslim Ruler had attacked HOLY KA’ABA in 73 Hijra.
Do u know who was that.
He was HAJJAJ bin YOUSUF. In that attack the Sahabi-e-Rasul was killed. This was Hazrat Abdullah bin Zubair(RA). His death body was hanged for 7 days after the attack. In that attack (nowadays operation), Hazrat Abdullah bin Zubair get shelter inside the Holy Kaaba. His mother was the daughter of Hazrat Abbu Bakkar(RA) and sister of Ummul-Mo’mineen hazrat Ayesha(RA), Hazrat Asma (RA) also gave courage to Hazrat Ibn-e-Zubair to do so.
If we belief that Lal Masjid Ulema do the wrong thing against criminal rulers and if we abuse the Lal Masjid Ulema especially Maulana Abdul Aziz, Maulana Abdur Rasheed Ghazi, their Mother and Umm-e-Hassaan and admire Mr. Musharraf then who will tell me
WHY WE DONOT ADMIRE MR. HAJJAJ BIN YOUSUF AND ABUSE HAZRAT ABDULLAH BIN ZUBAIR AND HAZRAT ASMA.
They also do the wrong thing. We can say that they have challenged the Power of Government and forced Government to attack KA’ABA. WHY?
It is because we know that they want Islam and Rules of Allah.
I also want to quote a simple example. if a thief come in ur street and u have capture the thief red-handed then tell me R U HAVE CHALLENGED THE POWER OF STATE.
No u have helped the Govt to implement the Rule of Allah.
If lake is present some where. the person who have some vessel or pot to store the water is intelligent and he will use that water and get success in future. and the person who do not have something to store the water will not use that water.
Same is the case with Islam if u donot implement Islam on people then Society get damage and spoiled.
I want to quote a Hadith :
Our Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) has said, “If there r 2 floors in a Ship. A person who r at lowered floor wants water and belief that he will get more water if he make a hole at the base of ship than going to upper floor. If the people of Upper floor do not force him not to do so then both will vanished and sunk in the sea.”
If Lal Masjid People not forced the Govt. to stop the brothel of Aunti Shamim and other such Masaj centers then we got Azab of Allah.
If we belief in Allah and Our Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (SAW), and the most important that if belief that whatever they have said is the truth then,
Today we have to beg our apology from Allah because we have killed atleast 3000 persons. If we not do so, We have the Examples of the Great and Powerful Nations who was vanished by Allah by his Azab on them and Our future will be same like that.
Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) has said, “The Qyamat was not held yet there is not remain a single muslim on this earth”
Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) said, “The person who abuse my SAHABI, he have abused me; who he have abused me, he have actually abused Allah”
Why we r abusing Our Holy Prophet by abusing his Sahabi; and why we r abusing the persons who implement the teaching of Great ISLAM.
Think upon it.
If we r doing so then the anger of Allah is near and we will be the most worst nation of the world who make Allah Angry.
For the above I want to quote the saying of Mr. Musharraf:
“I am seeing Light far away!!!”
Now I want to make some ammendment in above saying if we are abusing Allah and deny the teachings of Islam:
“I am seeing Light far away, Its actually a great FIRE which is waiting for this nation”
Take Care and Obey Allah the Almighty,
Allah Hafiz.
Fi Amaanillah
From Muslim Brother and Student of Islam
Muhammad Saifullah Siddiqui
saif.saf@hotmail.com
BEGHERAT GEN. MUSHARAF
Pervaiz Musharraf is enemy of Pakistan and Islam, he is agent of Non-Muslims Rulers of the world.
Mr.Kaka manah, very good. Do you know that most BEGHERAT than Pervaiz Musharraf has not born till now, nor will be born and no one can allow to born.
ZAIRA, Why are you liking the action taken by PERVAIZ MUSHARAF. Are you with muslims or non-muslims.If action of this kind would be taken against your home and your family, what will be your comments.Keep in mind that you are also responsible to ALLAH.
Mr.Waseem
What are you bakwasing, It Hadith do not means that you are saying.
Lanat hay tum par and Pervaziz Musharraf par.
do you know that Pervaiz Musharraf is enemy of Pakistan and Islam, he is agent of Non-Muslims Rulers of the world
yes you have put some meaning to that hadith u have weitten.well i have a question for u …..how come hazarat Imam Hussain (MAPH) knowing this hadith fought against Yaziid ( the ruler ). and if he had done wrong then why so love for him(MAPH).
well
again after the Karbla Incident why Hazarat Abdullah Bin Zubair (MABPH) fought against Hajaj Bin Yousaf who was sent by another caliph( a good one).
i think this is quite difficult to understand
the thing is that it is question of “Immaaan”
i have a less powerful Immaaan and i can tolerate some bad thing happening to an innocent soul in my neighbourhood….but their imaaan was so powerful that they would not tolerate a single thing like telling a lie around them …..
so that answers your question and one request to all paksitan
Please pakistanis ….dont make up ur own islam by misunderstanding what ever new comes to your knowledge..
Dont judge any body with your limited knowledge ….Allah has the knowledge and he knows who did what for whom ……
Assalamualaikum !
I am so dejected by the most of comments in which we are using abusive language and then mentioning some religious statements. Is not this a contrast or contradiction or it has become our habit to use those words at same time. We must be carefull. And remarkably a good effort by teeth maestro regarding the facts of operation silence.
everybidy is blammig mushii.. dere a hadith which means the pople of the country wil be having the ruler as they ll behave. i think it justifies all what v say and we do ironically!!!!!!!
ok just think of reciprocal of mushii
1- nawaz sharif ……….. better than banazir but still corrupt
2- bynazir bhutto……. 2 currpt.. she just come to pak to rule n den go away
3- Altaf MQM … a traitor
4- Imran khan…. somwhow yes .. but he still has to learn more
5-MMA… to currpt exploiting islam..
6——— so wats the option six
HIZB_UT_TARIR is the sixth option for sure which you can trust. becouse khilafah is the only solution of all our problems and the only alternative the world have…..
Do search about khilafah and HT and you will come to know this….
Allah Haiz
it was the responsibility of govt of pakistan to provide a fulltoos security to shaheed banzir butto.musharraf killd banazir and he should be killd because he is libel for the death of benazir.
Assalamualaikum !
thier is a one man show in pakistan…no one can even resist musharruf..he`s not patriot nor a muslim….!!
he rejected the independent judicary..by showing not a patriot…and showing that he`s not a muslim by killing younger muslims in lal mosque..!
he should b hanged !!
near minar-e-pakistan.
from magzine
Wifaq Times
editor.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Democracy as a system of governance and interest representation demands respect
for dissent and opposition. It recognizes the principle of majority rule and guarantees, protection of minorities. Democracy also builds faith in electoral contestation to gain public office and gives legitimacy to political parties as primary instruments for acquisition and transfer of power from one set of individuals to another, however the internal blame culture is to promote the possible benefit for the concerned party only it has no concern with the right of deprived people of Pakistan.
Since the creation of Pakistan the Pakistani people are left at distant from the corridor of power, so that the ruling elite can do what they wanted to do in favor of their interest, leaving the Pakistani people at the mercy of circumstances. As this policy is denial of right of Pakistani people to rule their country according to their aspiration and desire to built this country, which can provide equal opportunity to all without any discrimination for the establishment of welfare society. Instead the people were divided in to muhajir, Sindhi, Punjabi, pukhtun and Baloch. Only the society base on tolerance, equality and justice can be the real guarantee for the prosperous and strong Pakistan there for your intention is invited to the crucial movement which could be the point of distraction or disaster. Many innocent people are dying every day-week and every month. Because of bombast, suicide attacks and target killing in Pakistan the factual condition is that nothing happened in this world without any reason, the need of the time is to redress the grievances of the people and eliminate the reason.
The right way to reverence to Martyr is to eliminate the causes after the incidents. If we can redress the route cause after the suicide killing, we can save many lives in future. The only way out is the change of system the route cause of all kind of grievances, the time is to empower the Pakistani at grass route level to eliminate the socio-political injustice and strengthen the unity within the society at large, and closing the door for outsiders or intruder to penetrate in our society because of social unrest.
Unfortunately, despite the significance of the democratic elements, only the power full elite are fitted in power and Pakistani are always left at the mercy of circumstances again and again… As this policy is denial of right of Pakistani people to rule their country according to their aspiration and desire to built this country, which can provide equal opportunity to all without any discrimination for the establishment of welfare society. Only the society based on tolerance, equality and justice can be the real guarantee for real peace and progress in the society. Therefore, Change of socio-political system is inevitable to empower the Pakistani at grass route level for rapid industrial and agriculture development.
See http://www.idp.org.pk
Ilyas khan Baloch
Assalaam-U-Alaikum
Musharraf (enemy of Islam) Allah has to ask him about the incident of Jamia Hifsa and Lal Masjid, and he has no answer about all this which he has done. He is same like Firoan, Allah Hidayat ata farmaye Musharraf ko aur us kay kameenay sathiaon ko.
in my opinon that was total disgasting muslim never can do this but when we see this types of thing we shame to be a pakistani it is not good,if public will do every thing then i think we have to closed the all police station this is totayl un-humanty does islam teach us? is any one try to know why they are doing this? may they have to marry their sister or they have to cured thier mother but why will try to know. now we are used to these types of thing,
pakistan kind nation hahahahah
You All Seem To Be Forgetting [ The Supporters Of The military ] That These People Where maliciously attacked and burnt TO DEATh because they defied an American curfew. And Were Trying To Protest The Re Opening Of A SCHOOL!
Now what right was given to the military to shoot and torture ‘innocent'(and when i say innocent i mean that the protesters were armed with rocks) civillians?
Not Only adults were viciosly murdered, but also children.
The Situation could have been avoidable. Rubber Bullets, Tear Gas, Less harmful Tactics COULd have been Used.
F… AMERICA!
F… THE MILTARY!
musharaf i want to hang u 1000 times
OOORAH! Killem and Eat em!
Semper Fi you liberal bastards!
Nothing to say except ” Insaan ko Bedar To Holey
Ney Do Har Qaum Pukarey Gee Hamarey Hain Hussain”.
Mussarat Hussain,
Journalist,
USA
Assalam-o-Alaikum Warahmatullah
Truly! we Muslims have become too selfcentred to listen to anyone’s perception. We are just told by somebody that Mush had attacked the mosque and did not negotiate to any one. First he did warn and said catagorically, “If it is not prevented an operation would be taken”. At that time the teachers of Jamia Hifsa and Lal Masjid were saying that he couldnt do but as soon as he had done so the people sarted saying him kafir. We have no right to say anyone as kafir. As we have no idea about ourselves.
wow thats bad i have phophorus for an science projet so if u could sen me pic of dangerous things about phosphorous
so sad jo howa bohat bura howa
I think anyone and everyone should have a right to protest and present their opinion. But no one should have the right to make people hostages and display arms and ammunition.
Lal Masjid episode was a dark moment in the history of Pakistan. The dark part is how this Masjid turned into a terrorist camp… not how it was brought under control using force.
The two maulvi brothers who had taken control of the mosque and were giving refuge to trained terrorists deserve to be hanged or executed. They were the ones responsible for endangering the lives of so many people including women and children…
Army went in there to recover the hostages and capture terrorists and that is exactly what it did. Extremism and Fundamentalism is all about enforcing your personal opinions and beliefs on others… and that is what many of our mullahs are doing. This causes revulsion towards religion in this case Islam… so these mullahs are actually pushing people away from Islam hence they should be declared anti-Islam and charged under the Hudood ordinance as well as under state law for being anti-state.
The United States of America is not a signatory to those articles banning WP or something like that eh he he
THIS TIME BEGGARS HAVE AGAIN COME TO THE USA WITH A BEGGING BOWL.
BELIEVE ME ALL THE AID, AS USUAL GO TO TALIBAN.
MUSKAN
Military Bible!!!
1. Genocide
2. War
3. Racism
4. Slavery
5. Vandalism
6. Holocaust
7. Militarism
8. Criminal Education
9. Moses+David+Joshua+Jesus+Hitler+Bush+Obama+Waragenda
Atheist 100%
Military Bible + C.I.A.
1. 50 U.S. Wars, round the World: 170.000.000 died!!!
2. Hitlers War: 50.000.000 died!!!
3. Holocaust: 6.000.000 died!!!
4. C.I.A.=170.000.000 people died!!!
5. Holocaust= 6.000.000 died!!!
6. Vietnam=Napalmbombs!!!
7. Iraqwar=Phosphorusbombs: 3.000 C.
8. The white phosporus hits, burning at over 3000 degrees,
effecting an area approximately a quarter of a mile wide
— over a tenth of a mile in all directions.
9. Military Bible+C.I.A.+Barack Obamas Waragenda!!!
Atheist 100%
I can only say that I have information from insiders who were the first ones to go in after the main operation was over. The weapons which were shown on the TV were never found from inside. The way most tactics where used to flush out the inmates of mosque and Jamia Hifza, the bodies where mostly burnt and bullet ridden. The number of bodies which were in very bad condition where never handed over to the parents or loved ones, they were disposed off by trucks of Islamabad Development Authority, and a time will come when they will also come out with the truth.
I am not and ever was a Mulvi, but the way people were butchered inside the compound, showing the world that how extremists are taught a lesson, I have my changed views now. If the liberals have a view towards life so does the Islamists, let them propagate, and if the Govt is contested at any stage they may be dealt according to the consent of humans and nationalist idea of country men and no just fundamentalists. All operations in the north of the country will have such long lasting effects that the generations growing now, will fight Pakistan army and law enforcing agencies for ages to come. Some one must think and come out with ideas other than mil operations only.
Hats off to the political leaders, who are concentrating on how to get the max wealth in little time, rather than trying to resolve issues relating to the common people.
In such like situations I feel revolution is eminent, which ever form it takes, it is in the offing.
Though Dr Israr has left but his forecasts are there, let us just wait. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
After reading the article and being glued to the action on lal masjid Aug 2008 and interviewing my own friends in FIA…and the army and the brave journalists there…i agree on level of humanity that chemical weapons and that against ur own is wrong!!!………..but then to have 30 personnal non muslims milatants and weapons in a mosque (a sacred place above all)……to have abortion rooms where 11 yr old girls get rid of the seeds planted in them by these muslims… used by the trainees( on promise of heaven)…..i just dont knw anymore……i on a level of humanity and as a Pakistani feel that at times desperate measures r necessary…..they cldnt hav razed the Mosque to flush them out……rubber bullets to people who ran out of water but not ammuniation……….sorry the grey goes and i want peace even if it means we use chemical weapons against those of us……who kill innocent kids……i saw them gettin blown up in the Friday prayers blast in R.A.Bazzar…..just get rid of them………i mean that……Data Darbar…….schools…..everything can be sacrificed but no v should hold bk from using WHITE PHOSPHORUS!!!!!!!!!!