I share with you an open letter sent by Salman Ahmed of Junoon to Bilal Musharraf, son of General Pervaiz Muhsarraf, I had received the email directly from Salman but had resisted the urge to post it since I thought he may have not meant it to go public, but when I read that this email exchange was posted up on PkPolitics.com i decided to share it with my readers as well –
Post updated at 20:17 with a letter from a Pakistani asking Bilal Musharraf some honest questions
The first email from Bilal Musharraf to Salman Ahmed
I am compelled once again to share another personal anecdote, rather a saga¦ and apologize in advance for the length of the account. This one is about Salman Ahmed.
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You read heaps and write heaps
And bury your head in books
Light is everywhere but where you are
And you haven’t a clue how to reach itMarking time in extra prayers
Climbing a minaret and screeching
Mounting a pulpit and preaching – –
All this has nothing to do with knowledgeCryptic Sciences? Enough already!
Aleph is all you need ¦. Iko aleph teray darkaar
Title: Aleph
Album: Parvaaz
Lyrics: Bulley Shah
Music: Salman AhmadSalman has been a close friend and a spiritual guide of sorts since 1998. It started with an email I wrote to Salman (got his email address from my brother-in-law) in a moment of unabashed inspiration after listening to Ali Azmat sing “Aleph? over and over again. From what I remember, “Aleph: A Call to Basics? was the subject line of that email. I was star struck when I heard back from Salman, and pursued further correspondence that developed into a friendship. My brother-in-law Asim had made Junoon’s first video ‘Sayonee,? The video, along with the amazing album ‘Azadi’ had propelled Junoon to become the best international band by Channel V in 1998. Asim went on to make videos for Junoon’s live concert at central park in 1998 (a tribute to Nusrat Fateh Ali), “Yaar Bina,? “Bulleya?, and “Saqi Nama.?
It was the live concert in NY where I finally met Salman for the very first time. I had been married six months and my wife and I drove down from Boston as typical “groupies? singing Junoon’s songs all the way on the drive over to the concert. The attached picture below will probably better articulate our “junooni? state. In the packed to capacity crowd of 20,000 at the summer stage, I had picked my wife up on my shoulders because she couldn’t see anything¦. In fact a Friday Times journalist who wrote about the concert included an image of the of us swooning to the music, and captioning the picture “On Top of the World?. This was 1998, prior to the anomalous events that were to happen in my life and I remember my parents and my in-laws getting a good laugh out of the embarrassing moment caught on camera. I also remember this concert as the high point of Junoon’s fame.So what began as a random email exchange led to a friendship that is now close to a decade old. The events of this year have unfortunately cast a shadow on the authenticity of the relationship, and I stand guarded with regard to where we stand today. Salman was one of very few individuals that I reached out to on a regular basis to bounce off thoughts and ideas, seeking guidance in managing my emotional and psychological self. He has been a source of support and inspiration, and I truly grateful to him for that. His valuable insights (Salman’s extremely well read), were meaningful for me in negotiating with circumstances that I unexpectedly found myself in. I feel that for Salman, music is a platform but I really feel he is best suited to play a bigger role in the scheme of things. I used to describe Salman as a Sufi to the core. He walked the walk and talked the talk, when it came to standing up for what he believed in. However here is where I start feeling sad and disappointed¦. Because I don’t know what he believes in anymore. Please allow me to explain.
The first time my alarm bells rang were regarding the future of the band Junoon itself. I remember having a conversation in which I tried to persuade husband and wife, Salman and Samina, that since Ali and Brian were dropping out of the band, that Salman no longer use junoon’s name. Why? Because Salman’s personal musical and intellectual journey was going in a direction that Junoon’s music might not have gone, had the band and the fans stayed together. Not that I could speak for “the fans?, I was just one of them. In my humble opinion the “junoon? phenomenon was not just Salman, Ali and Brian, it was also the 1990s, the newly unleashed power of rock, and a youth bulge feeling stifled and desperately looking for change. For any one band member to unilaterally try to run with junoon might take away from the junoon experience, similar to how Matrix II and III actually ended up eroding Matrix I. Let it be, was my verdict. So many new bands had come up, who paid homage to Junoon (Noori, Jal etc.) for opening the doors, but were much better at riding the youth’s passion. In fact I made a half baked pitch to take the character “Jeem? from Junoon perhaps, and broaden its domain as being “Jeem? for “jiddojehed, jurrat, jazba? etc. not just passion ala junoon. In a shallow vein, I suggested looking at what happened to the men’s clothing store “Structure? as an example. “Express?, which was a women’s clothing line acquired “Structure? and started calling it “Express for Men? but it failed. Men simply refused to wear clothes that said Express on them because they didn’t feel it was right. I feel something similar is happening to Junoon.
The second context of the alarm bells had to do with feeling uncomfortable hearing messianic verdicts from Salman regarding my father until maybe last year, to the extent that I felt a need to discount the faith in autocracy as being able to deliver on all fronts. As Joel Polodny (current Dean at Yale, former OB professor at GSB) put it, “In the short term, performance can almost always be enhanced by foregoing logic of person and emphasizing logic of position. In the long term however, logic of person (read: vision) facilitates accountability, flexibility, and motivation. Leadership depends on a balance.? I was a bit disappointed when a picture of Salman and my father that I had taken some years back when Salman met me in Pindi appeared on Junoon’s website (http://www.junoon.com/news_archive2003.htm). Although Salman had asked for the picture, he had not indicated that it would go on the website, let alone also be credited to me publicly! In any case, I reconciled with that as no big deal.
This year though, has left me truly disappointed and hurt. If Salman feels the need to neutralize the burden of prior public contact with my father with his venomous rhetoric, I find it not just unjust but truly unfair. Looking back today, I am unable to decipher whether his motivation for prior public overtures towards my father were selfless or selfish in nature. I told him just last month in Calgary (at the Mystical Journey Tour: http://www.theismaili.org/he2-3.htm) the difference between him and Bono is that Bono wouldn’t post a picture with Bush on his own website, even if he sees the President as an instrument of change and not the personification of it.
No one is perfect, I realize. However to the extent one can, one must try to reduce one’s integrity gap which someone defined aptly as the difference between lived values and stated values.
Bilal [Musharraf]
Response by Salman Ahmed to Bilal Musharraf
Dear Bilal,
Thanks for this shared e-mail. I’ve never publicly responded to you but am compelled to do so now. I’ll respond to the public part of your criticism of my changed stance against your father’s policies. For the record, my support for your father’s vision of “enlightened moderation” was never based on any personal expectations or “marketing” (rock musicians dont usually like hanging out with military dictators) My prior public support to your father’s govt. along with that of the vast majority of Pakistanis was given in the belief that he would deliver on his public promises to fight extremism, respect civil institutions,bring accountability to corrupt politicians, open up a free and independent media and reduce the immoral gap between Pakistan’s rich and poor. The picture that you took of me with your dad was taken in 2003,when I felt that the international media was cynically and wrongly depicting Pakistan as a total terrorist state being defended by “only” one pro-western moderate Pakistani, your father. Although i was ridiculed by many for doing so, but i chose to put that picture on the Junoon website after the assasination attempts on your father in December 2003. The picture was meant to symbolise the majority support of Pakistan’s civil society for the fight against extremism and lawlessness. That picture and my support for your father’s govt (WHICH YOU WOULD VOUCH,I HAVE NEVER ABUSED FOR PERSONAL GAIN NOR HAVE MY FAMILY OR FRIENDS) was never meant to be taken as a blank check for the state machinery to run amok and start dismantling civil institutions, making deals with crooks and plunderers, treating civil servants like common criminals, kidnapping and killing innocent Pakistanis under the guise of the “war on terror” and illegally spying, torturing and jailing thousands of Pakistanis (which include national heroes, supreme court judges, lawyers, rights activists, house wives and students).
My recent op-ed in the Washington post and my public disassociation with your father should not be a surprise to you. I wrote many candid e-mails to you in August and September of this year,sharing my concern about your father’s policies and his govt’s high handed tactics.You responded by saying I was being too harsh to which I reminded you that true friends are not meant to be mistaken for sycophants and cronies but are a True barometer of the public’s perceptions.You chose to ignore these warning e-mails and dismissed them as “emotionalism”. Even when you visited me while I was on tour in Canada in October, you promised that there would be no reason to impose emergency in Pakistan and you assured me that your father respects the judiciary and has spoken to the chief justice of the supreme court in this regard. Alas, even that myth has now been totally shattered. The supreme court judges are also citizens of Pakistan who have courageously tried to stick to the letter and the spirit of the law for which they are being punished by your father’s govt. Why is this so?All that I write above is not just my view but the view of millions of Pakistanis and independent observers. I’m not writing out of spite or revenge but conveying the voice of Pakistan’s not so silent majority. As an artist I have also publicly criticized previous Pakistani rulers who like your dad made the mistake of not respecting civil society or civil institutions and I will continue to do so in the future as well. Staying silent is no longer an option, Art disturbs and artists have no choice but to listen to their conscience.
Yours Sincerely,
Salman AhmadP.S. I still have the e-mails that I wrote to you privately which reflect my public disapproval of your father’s deviation from his self confessed path of enlightened moderation, I can resend them if you’d like.
Updated with a response from a Pakistani
Dear Mr Bilal Musharraf,
I don’t know you personally and have absolutely nothing personally against you or your father. Since the civil society and those understanding law i.e. lawyers are up against the way things have unfolded in our beloved nation, I have decided to write to you. Can you please care to answer the following questions ( no I am not on any agenda nor any foreign govt has paid me to protest against your father, I am just an ordinary citizen)
- Are we children of lesser God that your father while addressing western audience time and again declares that this country cannot have western way of democracy
- What divine right he has to give himself extension after extension what agenda he has to finish or is it personal lust of power he seems to have
- What personal grudge he has against civil society while fighting a war on terror against fundamentalists
- Do you think it is possible in western society (barring Bush) to govern a country like your father is doing. He is making amendments after amendment to keep himself at hem of affairs courtesy, Malik Qayyum, Peerzada and many more like them
- A man is known by the company he keeps, look at the people he is surrounded by Big arm Wasi Zafar, Sher afghan, Shujjat, Sheikh Rashid, Ahmad Raza Qasuri. They are national embarrassment. Can you put your hand on your heart and say your father could not find any bright, intellectual patriotic Pakistan amongst 160 million people or he convenient has surrounded by pathetic, sycophants who say only things he wants to hear. THEY ARE AN INSULT TO OUR INTELLIGENCE
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- Why has democracy not been allowed to flourish. I want these corrupt politicians to be voted out by not hounded by ISI, NAB. Why are Nab-wanted politicians like Saleh Hayat, Sherpao in your father’s cabinet. I am not for any current politicians but like a child learns to walk and falters many time before start walking, I want people 160 millions of them to learn to walk and vote them out. For God sake give these people a chance to walk and learn
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Bad democracy is better than good dictatorship. We are not serfs or subhumans, we can learn too you know. Imagine if your father while he was teaching you how to walk had treated you with similar disdain and impatience
We want rule of law. I as an ordinary citizen can understand the contradictions in your father’s statement no matter how much links his personal ambition with national interest he fails to do so. I am 45 years old and have seen a few eras in my life. I had looked for heroes for my time and couldnot find any until recently. I am proud to live in this time and witness scores of lawyers, judges, students ordinary civil society, media anchor people standing up for one thing rule of law. My nation has a hope. This hope is not from privileged people in power but the above mentioned heroes.
Dear Sir, I will not be surprised if suddenly I am hounded by your agencies and may end up with renal failure. (isn’t it the fate of many brave men who dare to criticize your father) But remember, history is very cruel and Khuda ki lathee bay awaz hoti hay. have some perspective and comes of delusions and paranoia. zaban-e-khalq ko naqaar-e-khuda samjho
I salute Salman Ahmad for his stand. Music has come alive again. John Lennon will be proud of you. As far as Mr President is concerned “Grave yard of this world if full of indispensible people” Sirf allah ka naam raya ga.
Best wishes
Nighat
Comments
146 responses to “Open letter from Salman Ahmed to Bilal Musharraf”
While I can understand that it is not easy being the son of a hated dictator, Bilal Musharraf needs to learn from Gohar Ayub. It was Gohar who told his father to quit, saying enough is enough.
Bilal can play a role, not in the public sphere by bashing people who criticize his father. Instead he needs to sit down with his father like Gohar Ayub did almost 3 decades ago.
YES ,please Bilaal, save your father, ask him to take a break, get out of the box he is in , come stay in boston or oak brook, He seems to not realize that whatever his intentions and knowledge may be ,He is hurting Pakistan now, Its a stage wehre it is not any more what he does or doesnt do, HE himself is hurting the country. May be his biggest achievment in the end would be that he inspired a dead Judiciary to “stand up “
A sincere advise to Bilal bhai. Could you please forward this article to your father ?
“After all you are a human being” by JC
http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1100308148&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20071130
I recommend him reading AC or JC oftenly for some sincere advise:
He can read AC online here
http://dawn.com.pk/weekly/cowas/cowas.htm
Great reply by the person who replied.
I dont care two hoots for either Salman or Bilal. But the fact remaisn that why in God’s name would Bilal trust a ROCK STAR and look up to him for spiritual guidance.
Bilal – HELLO you are for sure a gullible idiot.
As for the very popular sport of Musharraf Bashing that is not new by any account.
We Pakistanis as a nation are known to bring people in as heroes with full pomp and baja and the departure is always without any break most disgraceful. Salee jaisee Qoum Hay waisay hee leaders miltay hain.
No son is accountable for his father’s actions and nor is Bilal. Spare him with your idiotic, passionate nationalism.
Dear Khawar,
It is Bilal himself who chooses to attack people (who oppose his father) in public, not the other way round. If you had cared to read the email exchange you would have noticed that Bilal went after Salman.
Bilal also posted an article in chowk.com after Oct 12, 1999 defending his fathers unconstitutional act.
As Ali Azmat said in one of the interviews. Salman loves to be in front of camera and in lime light. He would do anything to be popular. He is no ones friend. Bilal u made the biggest mistake to become a back stabbers friend. Think about it.. he does not even know the alif Bee of singing and he sings under name of Junoon and as you noticed yet again that he didnt even bother answering your question about Using Name Junoon. As far as Your dad is concerned. I still fully support him. He is where he is not because of him but people around him who screwd him over. He tried to impose his policies and everything was going great untill your dad decided to get some help from these ediots. Thank god they are not in power any more. People tend to forget that they hated Benazir and Nawas Sharif as much as they are hating Musharaf now.
Bottom Line… Ur dad made some of Best and Some of the worse decisions. Now things are out of controll and he cant handle them but unfortunately he thinks that he can controll them…… I hope he is right….
Musharraf’s Economic Deception
General Musharraf took over the reigns of power in 1999 from Nawaz Sharif with the Pakistan economy on the verge of bankruptcy. So desperate was the situation Nawaz Sharif toured the world visiting Pakistanis with a begging bowl requesting them to invest in Pakistan due to the sanctions imposed on Pakistan for carrying out nuclear tests. Incoherent, short-term policies had resulted in a minority of people benefiting immensely, who incidentally were directly linked to the Sharif family.
Both the IMF and the World Bank have consistently praised the Musharraf government for solid macroeconomic recovery and saving the Pakistan economy from the brink of economic collapse. They cite the $128bn generated under his tenure. Many commentators are eager to explain that the Musharraf government has made substantial macroeconomic reforms since taking over the economy in 1999. The argument of the few Musharraf loyalists being that he has brought a degree of stability to Pakistan that the country never knew under civilian rule.
Part 1 of this two part series will assess this claim and analyse the current state of Pakistan’s economy which shows it is in a far more precarious position:
@ Bilal Musharraf
Do u like to die, similar to those your father killed….??
1. Hundreds of inocents childrens in northern areas by Bombing
2. Hundreds of inocents students boys/gals in Islamabad by White Phosphorus Bombs (Jamia Hafsa/Lal Masjid)
3. Hundreds of People in Balochistan
4. Hundreds of May 12 in Karachi
Please, Please say YES… Dare dieing like those … You and Your father, Your whole family have blood on their hands of hundreds of inocents childrens, men and women ….
Spritual Guidance for you:
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Normally people die in 60’s. so shall you and your father in next couple of years
Bilal,
Why did the Telegraph from London call your father a “sonofabitch” in it’s editorial.
If you you or your grandmother Zarin Musharraf had any self-respect you would have taken Musharraf to task for bringing a bad name on your family.
Billy,
Please dont let people say anything about your father. After all he has given you an inherentence worth millions in paksitan and outside paksitan you know just in case. Go Musharaff Go. Just go to hell.
views of salman ahmed donot reflect views of majority of pakistani in pakistan and abroad.
hello all,
my name bilal musharraf. I in boston. My daddy have grey mustache. Daddy douche bag. He not know what he do. i no likes. I like salman ahmad, he hot. I want love with him but i married.
I hear khawar comment. He goof. I type too much, I sleep now. I request all, plz hurt not my dad, he just stupid idiot, he not know what he do. thankies.
your,
bilal
Congratulatory letter to General Musharraf
Keep the Fires Burning
Mr President, I just wanna extend my heartfelt congratulations to you for conquering Pakistan yet again with the help of Pak Army.
With your earnest efforts and military support we will achieved what we Indians have pathetically failed to accomplish so far.
Remember, our and yours ultimate goal should be total dismemberment of Pakistan. We are extremely grateful to you for doing what we had assumed impossible.
Please ensure that each and every institution of Pakistan is corrupted, destroyed and gutted to ashes before leaving. A friend like you is hard to find. Crush Pakistan and bloody Pakis. Teach them a lesson they should never forget in life. Show them the power of people, over and over again as you have already thankfully doing.
Mr President, corrupt the very soul of the nation so thoroughly that they lose the last rationale to survive as a nation state. Sir, please keep on distorting the vision of so-called Pakistan; continue destroying its identity beyond recognition. How? Exactly as you have been doing ever since. You are genius indeed. It is hard if not impossible to find a better nation destructor than you.
It was marvellous when you gathered the cream of corrupt politicians under the tutelage of pragmatism dubbed as patriots and like-minded. Then you crown that gathering by adding a number of absconders, alleged murderers from MQM in your government. When you found that team not performing, you introduced NRO to bring in the last remaining vestiges of crime in all its forms and manifestations. Now by the grace of your Allah mega cheat to multiple murderers all have become kosher, ready to serve you and dig the grave of country.
Gravest treachery has been presented and marketed as patriotism. Long Live Patriots aka Afgans et al.
Sir, I am doubtful, if any one single individual in the history of humankind has ever inflicted this much damage to one nation. Pitting Pathans against saala Punjabis, alienating Balochs and Sindhis with lousy bharaks and wanton force, patronizing Mohajirs to an extent that they become a state on its own are the accomplishments that no single politician can even dream of achieving, despite taking birth thrice.
Pol Pot purged Cambodia of intellectuals; your historic feat has been to cleanse Pakistani society of ethics, integrity and uprightness. Today, not even a single honest member of superior judiciary is under house arrest. All Nabbed became ministers, all men of character are being tried for treason and terrorism. What a fun, indeed. Dama Dum Mast Qalandar, would Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan have sung. I would say, keep the fires burning.
Your personal interests, your private ambitions are supreme national interests. Period. Crush all those fool heads who dare to protest as you did in Karachi- twice.
Kindly take this emergency theatre as a God-sent gift to you for completing the project bestowed upon you 8 years back. You kill the soul of Pakistan; we will take it out physically. Together we will wipe the bloody Pakis off from the face of earth.
We Indians are highly grateful for transforming once formidable fighting force of Pak Army into timid pussycats. Keep them fully preoccupied with real-estate, wheeling and dealing of petty political affairs, planting bombs here and there and Jey Ram we will take Lahore without facing a single khaki bullet. Well, taking good care of ghairat-mand civilian Musla wouldnt be that difficult if you keep on baptising them to enlightened moderation.
It was an undoubtedly master stroke when you recently pegged the safety of Paki nuclear assets to your own perpetuation in office. Since that day, several countries have been openly war-gaming to secure so-called nuclear assets of Pakistan. As you have showed them the way, you should now also help them by providing the last missing pieces of information. Thereafter, your future will be fully insured.
I am sure that India & Israel will confer the highest civil and military awards on your departure (shortly).
On behalf of yours grateful Indian Fans,
Sincerely yours,
Rajesh Kumar Sandhu
Uppsala
Sweden
rajesh.kumar.sandhu@gmail.com
Gang-rape of Pakistan
Thank You Mr Bilal & Fathers
Sohna
I appreciate your braveness. You are playing a vital role in this typical situation. History bears the fact that our all general who ruled over Pakistan meet their facts.
Inshallah Musharaf will kill by a patriot person. He is son of bitch. I am doubtful regarding the birth of Bilal i think so that he is son of bush or senior bush. His grand mother was a dancer. She won a prize during a party. Musharaf admit in his book.
Soemone put it quite aptly “Salee Jaisee Koum Hay Waisa Hee Leader Milta Hay”
Man looking at your language and thought I feel sick and wanna puke. Is that how you would talk about your mother or grandmother, perhaps where you come from this is a norm and women are treated like that as it happens in hamlets and Chaks all over Pakistan.
Afsoos Sud Afsoos
Dear Bilal,
Never thought I would find myself going onto websites and reading emails between two persons. I was quite alarmed to learn of this rather open communication between yourself and Salman Ahmed. Thought I must check it out myself…. I do not know Salman Ahmed nor have I met him. I do know him by reputation to be the mature Junoon member; not something I can say about his co-members (I meet one quite regularly on the social circuit in KHI, talk about being stuck in adolecence!).
Without going into specifics and long explanations; I have my reasons. I feel that since June ’07 the people of Pakistan have shown how myopic their understanding of state affairs is. They are not fully receptive of the ground realities nor situtions that can lead to the necessiy of tough decisions.
I think I missed the part when my brothers and sisters in Pakistan became law abiding and a nation of persons able to lift fingers at others. Please remind me when they: stopped breaking traffic lights,stopped burning wives, stopped mutilating children to beg, stopped cutting lanes when driving, started walking on foot paths, registered their vehicles on time, stopped tinting car windows, stopped using fancy horns, stood in lines, didn’t go against one ways, didn’t use electricity kundas, lawyers and journalists stopped using bumper plates with their tiles on them etc… We are not worth being able to call President sahab names and critisize him. 9/10 of us are guilty of breaking ALL of our civic duties as citizens of Pakistan. We are the problem of Pakistan. Not the one person who has sepped forward to sort out our mess.
I will not use this media to explain myself. Don’t despair, some of us undestand. You need to know you are not alone and A LOT OF PEOPLE DO UNDERSTAND.
InshaAllah Paistan will survive and coninue to prosper. May God give President Sahab the strengh and the courage to continue his battles for this (his) Nation. Ameen.
Its not easy here. I am a large scale employer in KHI, and I can share with you this fact that we are a naion of schizophrenics at large. 9am – 5pm we are ready to beg, steel, lie, swear, not pray, take bribes, character assasinations, office politics; basically every “shirk”. Then from 5pm – 9am we are at home pretending to be good fathers, brothers, mothers and sisters pretending that our whole day was honest, “paak”, refrain from bad language and hurting each other. Why can’t we cut the schizophrenia (dual personality disorder) and simply become the 5pm – 9am kind of people?!
Dr J Mughal
superman super performance
http://www.ppp.org.pk/dfc/Musharraf's_Relative_Lands.html
Bilal Musharraf should also take a cue from the sons of the Late and ruthless Khan of Kalabagh – they shot him dead!
Just a note, although I agree with Salman Ahmad’s clarifications, his credibility takes a big hit from being associated with self promoting, Fox News sweethearts the Hasan Family. Am attaching a link:
http://www.isufirock.com/blogs/index.html
It is a sad day for Music and especially sufism when they are associated with the mercenary, glib likes of the Gul Hasan family. I agree with Zarak, “Salee Jaisee Koum Hay Waisa Hee Leader Milta Hay
So Disappointing.
Children should not suffer because of the incompetent self-righteousness of a father – even though they may be benefitting from it in many ways… does it make any sense… I dont know… what I do know is that I was illegally persecuted and my entire familly was destroyed. We lost our house, our entire possessions, our everything and became homeless. We would not have survived had the British government not provided us with refuge. The question is, what was the fault of my two daughters who were aged thirteen and eleven at the time. They also had pride in their father…
Subsequently, the government (NAB) admitted its mistake but was not bothered to provide justice. On the other hand, they found it more expedient to brush the matter under the carpet. They openly said that I was a collateral damage in their war against corruption. I did though receive a response from the President through an e-mail but nothing happened afterwards. The High Commissioner in the UK phoned me as well and was sympathetic but thats all, there was no justice. I of course simply did not have close contacts with the Bari Cheemas, Major Tariq’s and Rabbani’ and the Hanafi’s of this world to get personal justice from the sincere President… Though, ironically, I was given an award by this same President for my IT achievemnets to Pakistan. And Sommro gave me an award for contributing towards caravan Karachi.
My wife, my daughters and myself are still living with the trauma…and now our last hope, the judiciary is also gone…
Bilal and his sister may be very fine people…but why are they so special, why are they being protected… does other people dont have children…? Would it be fair or unfair to persecute them one day for being the children of a father who has destroyed so many lives, would it be unfair… or would it be poetic justice…?
Well… i finally get to express my views about this ‘intellectual’ discussion between Bilal Musharraf n Salman Ahmed. First of all… I would like to apologize to Bilal Musharrafd on behalf of all these stoopid @!#$@$ including Salman Ahmed who dun have enuff gutts to wipe off their mid-life crises and still find the audacity to criticize rather abuse leaders like President Musharraf!
the problem with these incoherent idiots is they belong to the pseudo progressive co-opted class of Pakistan. Retards they r…. retards they shall be… lawyers, musicians, journalists, n village idiots (politicians) they come out in numbers n scream their lungs out…. on the streets, in front of embassies n all… n if u just ask y the hell they r upto it… they’ll come out with all these idiotic monologues abt bankrupt economy?!?! poverty?!?!?! inflation?!?!? terrorism?!?! the hell!! all wat other pseudo ‘intellectuals’ like talat hussain, dr shahid masood, kamran khan etc etc have fed into their minds…
we talk abt kids being brainwashed to become terrorists… Bilal bhai we have an entire group of people brain washed to believe that wateva Musharraf sahab does is baaaad for the country!! n this has happened in the last one year! just after march 2007… before that all of these jerks including salman ahmed were happy with musharraf sahab… shame on them! If it wasnt fer Ali Azmat… he wldnt have even had Junoon! Retard!
We, the business students and professionals of Pakistan realize wat has the Musharraf regime done for the country! This economic turnaround has been phenomenal.. there are thousand n one statistics i can quote over here to prove my point…. but not one of them can beat this promise that We have given up 5-6 years of our youth working to improve the economy of Pakistan with Musharraf sahaab… n we will not give up!! not on Musharraf sahab… not on Pakistan!!
n this i can say for Karachi…Karachi owes its development (the only in 25 yrs) to Musharraf sahab… n yeh! prejudiced ppl like Salman Ahmed wld have their ideas abt this as well… the fool had the gutts to criticize MQM too.. kher chadoo.. sadda kee tey sannu kee
Long Live President Musharraf!!! Long Live Pakistan!!!
hayat
I sometimes wonder that MUSH BASTARD reads the newspaper and whatever is written against him or like Ayub khan,a special newspaper is published solely for his breakfast table?
I agree that no son is accountable for his fathers deeds however it was Bilal who became a party when he floated the letter on the internet, “Why My father Did What He Did’ or something like that…
When he becomes party to his fathers action on public forums, people have the right to give him a rejoinder.
…. and like someone on this blog said that it is shame enough to be a son of a dictator, I can understand bilal’s pain and misery. However shameless as he seems (inherited his fathers character), it is difficult to “shame a shameless”!
WELL DONE SALMAN!
Musharraf is nothing but an extention of Muhajir Quami Movement in the cover of a General’s uniform and I say this why?
Murder and killing of 60 people by Altaf on Musharraf’s orders to stop CJ’s rally on may 12th in karachi. Msharraf stated that no inquiry was required and gave a blow to sind high Court for ordering one.
Can you imagine if 60 MQM workers had been killed in Larkana or Lahore. Would that have been Musharraf’s stance?? Infact Musharraf’s is so ethnic that he has beaten Altaf Hussain way behind. He hates all communities of Pakistan EXCEPT followers of MQM and that is also what this party feels. They feel that 6% minority is enough for them to rule Pakistan.
Question any MQM follower and you will find nothing but hate for everyone. Ask them who they love, Sindhi? Punjabi? Pathan? Baluch? I guarantee you they hate them all and feel that Pakistan was made for their ethnicity who migrated and have maybe 6% representation.
Mush is a mass murderer and is working on the exact starategy of Altaf Hussain. The idea was to provide enough opportunity to MQM to be able to penetrate Punjab, Sind and Kashmir, which failed after May 12th and exposed the true face of this General not only in Punjab but became a topic of open discussions in the officer ranks of Pak army.
Time might be with Musharraf at the moment but there is no way that he will escape the gallows for the acts committed.
So, if Salman wrote against MQM, so what? The entire country is against this party run by a hateful character.
the person above me has proved my point… which i didnt want to raise…
just because Musharraf is an urduspeaking… he gets to be attributed to MQM…, n gets criticized…
well Mr. NJ ur problem wld persist no matter wat… the so to say usurpers of ur son of the soil rights rule the biggest most important city of the country… n u cant help it…
i salute the Pak Army for supportin their leader thru thick n thin… my friend above wld prefer to involve the Pak Army into this great big mohajir conspiracy.. hark!
shame on ur Pakistaniyat!
hayat
Here’s a great cast for a Bollywood comedy about a bunch of looneys. Let me sum up:
1) Mother an award-winning dancer.
2) Father suspended by Bhutto on corruption charges. Finds solace in dancing and singing looney tunes.
3) Son a thumb-sucking brat bent on bashing anyone who criticizes his father.
5) Brother-in law a rectologist/colonist who shoved a broomstick up Musharraf’s a$$ all the way to his brain. No wonder Mushman has deformed into a complete imbecile.
6) Sehba an obsessive who runs to NY every time Musharraf winks at Sumaira Malik.
Urdu speaking people are amongst the most patriotic Pakistanis. They’ve given Pakistan her best sons like Hakim Saeed, Justice Wajihuddin, and Justice Fakhruddin.
It’s just the shady characters like Musharraf and Altaf Hussain who have brought a bad name upon the urdu speaking people.
Why do u people stoop so low that even devil will shy away.
If you have a mother you wouldt not use such filthy language.
Get your minds out of the gutter
Mush himself called is mother an award winning dancer.
Talking about devil, Mush is devil personified.
By irfan on Dec 5, 2007 | Reply
views of salman ahmed donot reflect views of majority of pakistani in pakistan and abroad.
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Well Mr.Irfan, please open your eyes and look beyond your “Muhajir” cult mentality.
The man (Mush) has “ZERO” support in the country which includes all FOUR PROVINCES; The list below shows the cities of Pakistan. Please find me ONE CITY where Musharraf has support today, LEAVING KARACHI and we all know why karachi/MQM supports him;
You people are out of your minds. Please live in reality and stop using lies and deceptions. One Altaf Hussain is enough to do that.
P.S.
…and to sum it up, please do not say that this man (Mush or as he is better known today “Our Son-Of-A-Bitch) has popularity in the villages of Pakistan. If you ask any villager in Sind, Punjab, Baluchistan or Frontier, the answer might be like;
“KERA GAND.. MUSHARRAF”, we all know what that means. Trust me, it’s only one man support “Look alike of Indian Water Buffalo” Altaf Hussain and his followers!
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By Babar Farooq on Dec 7, 2007 | Reply
Urdu speaking people are amongst the most patriotic Pakistanis. Theyve given Pakistan her best sons like Hakim Saeed, Justice Wajihuddin, and Justice Fakhruddin.
Its just the shady characters like Musharraf and Altaf Hussain who have brought a bad name upon the urdu speaking people
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Babar, I totally agree with you. Urdu speaking people were among the best of the best Pakistan could ever have. They gave so much to this country and the names you mentioned should be written in golden ink in our country’s history.
Unfortunately, these wonderful people from this community are fast being wiped out by the murderer Altaf Hussain. We all know who killed hakim Saeed and it worries me every day what fate might lie ahead for Justice Wajiuddin. These are brave men!
Unfortunately, Altaf has poisoned the minds of even the saner elements of this community. Unfortunately the community does not realize that they only have 6 to 7% representation in Pakistan and the wrath of the majority will come because Altaf has exposed itself too much now.
Musharraf is a mortal and like all mortals will be gone one day. In an way, I feel sorry for the Muhajir community because seriously there are millions of really good people this community represents.
Rajesh Kumar Sandhu
Uppsala
Sweden
rajesh.kumar.sandhu@gmail.com
Nicely written. It’s no wonder India is one of the largest democracy in the world. It is the only because of the thought process of people like you that makes India a great democratic country.
It is a shame that Musharraf sitting right next door cannot see the difference and feels no shame.
We have had other military dictators in the past but seriously this one is heading to become another Yahya Khan of Pakistan. Same mentality between the two; while citizens die, he sits drunk and boozed every night, mujra’s is his passion and this he calls being “Enlightened”!!! That was exactly what the letcher late Yahya Khan was….the only thing missing is a “Rani” and who knows there’s one in this man’s (Mush) life too….
u ppl talk abt Karachi as if u have lived here for ages!!! I can talk shit abt Lahore or Isloo… but i dunno their dynamics…
so let us analyse y Karachi is the cause for concern for everyone… its not the urduspeakin community which exists in karachi anymore… we have the biggest number of pushto speakers outside nwfp residin in karachi… n they call it home! we have the biggest number of sindhis in karachi n obviously its their home! cuz its mandatory on every sindh born to study sindhi (so, even urduspeakers r proud to speak n learn sindhi) we have the biggest balochi population outside balochistan… punjabis ummm…yes they r in huge numbers as well…
wat we have as a result of all this? a mini Pakistan… n most ppl like my friends above dun like dat… u come down here n talk to all my pushto speakin, balochi n sindhi friends… the problem with this country is not a small community (6-7% as u mentioned) not bein able to find a credible or largely acceptable leadership for themselves… they’d rather point the finger towards the bigger province…PUNJAB n its evident overtures at usurping power from the small provinces.
the only threat punjab feels from this country is Karachi… cuz Karachi has the strength of the entire Pakistan… I havent had the opportunity to meet any pathan brother in Lahore, or any balochi in pindi or any sindhi in faisalabad… why??? its left for us all to ponder… n still ppl find the audacity to term entire communities as murderers!!! it was the bigger province which sidelined the bengalis… which usurped their rights!! not some altaf or musharraf in the south! not some Khan of peshawar… nor some wadera of interior sind… Bhutto just became the scapegoat for this entire pre-planned shit!!
another sane question… if a sane person wld like to answer dat.. Was the Pak Army n its punjabi generals (other nations hardly make it there… i wonder y) were sooo stoopid to just sit around n let a ‘mohajir’ do as he pleased dat too for 10 straight years!!!! or y dun they do anythin now?!?!? y wasnt musharraf kicked out as soon as he took off his uniform?!?!?
I salute the punjabi generals of Pak Army again… they r the more honorable punjabis I have come to respect n admire… Allah ka shukar… the army doesnt think n act like us!
Long live Pakistan
hayat
no one needs to worry about the urduspeaking community… they have turned the fate of entire cities around with their hardwork n dedication… Karachi is one case in point… its one of the fastest growin cities of the world… (however not only the urduspeakers but pushto,sindhi, balochi n punjabi speakers have played their role in its development)
the urduspeakin community is the most educated, most enlightened community in the country… n virtually singlehandedly controlls the entire financial profile of the country… karachi still helps to generate 60% of the GDP of the country… the community still controls a large share of the local enterprises, n the progressive middleclass of Karachi is the biggest in the country…majorly represented by this community..
no one else needs to worry abt this community cuz since inception of pakistan, the community has virtually cared for itself!
its just a shame my friends have so much hatred for this community n its representatives… but the community gives shit to ur hatred…
hayat
Omar Hayat,
I am myself a Karachiite and can speak better for Karachi than an Altaf maniac. I am proud of my urdu speaking community because we have produced people like Haakim Saeed and Justice Wajeehuddin. Who else can dare to stand up to Altaf Hussain and Musharraf than these people. No Punjabi or a Pathan has the guts to stand up to these scoundrels.
Altaf Hussain is a Bihari terrorist holding the entire urdu speaking public hostage at gunpoint. The sooner we ditch this guy the better for our country. Karchi should’ve been above Dubai today had it not been for the MQM. While you may relish the the MQM ways I don’t. If anything, MQM has held Karachi back from progress.
My name is also bilal musharraf, But I am not son of Great General, I am a son of Middle class journalist who fought for truth all his life. Dear Sir, Your father is now a dictator, He tookover power in 1999 just to protect himself, he took U turn on 9/11 just to protect himself, He sacked judges and imposed emergency just to protect himself, Tell me sir, Are all Pakistanis fool? and your father is only patriot remain in country? Hummayun Akhter who is main culprit in Sugar crisis, was minister in your father’s party. MQM is supporter of your father, who has terrorised whole karachi..I am karachiite and I have witnessed Bhatta(imposed pvt tax). I have witnessed people dying by the hands of MQM shooters, I have seen Hakim Sahab martyred by just one call of Altaf. I have seen Army guys beating police officer, just because he dared to stop them from speeding. Please enough is enough, or else your father’s fate will not be different from Shah of Iran
I like to add one thing whatever our President Pervez Muharaf did was to save his own skin, from the time he took over as chief executive till the imposition of emergency these all steps reflect his selfishness to save his own skin…
what musharraf did, his son should not be associated with it.
Salman Amme is completely unrealistic. Shame on u. Snith
Saab seh pehle Pakistan
GEO MUSHARRAF GEO
MUSHARAF BASTARD is killer of hundreds of children and innocent people and he also killed many of our security forces persons He should not send to Mental Hospital but his true destination is jail for life
WELL DONE SALMAN
Every dictactor is his last days is concerned about Media and he feels that it is Media who is creating neusence. Ayub Khan brought press publication Ordinance. Self declared Mard-e-Momin Ziaul Haq brought Press regulation act and Mr. Mush has brough Pimra and puppets in the form of Q-League etc.
BUT civil society, Students, Lawyers and importantly people of Pakistan are much more civilized now.
Mush Banned GEO, ARY etc because they were condemning his illegal acts and said they were irresponsible…Wow..He himself breaks the constitution twice which was never an irresponsible move. He sold the national interest for his own sake and it was “a highly responsible” move.
Mush ousted the honorable judges because his presidential post was at stake- Judges who gave us hope for justice and said they were supporting terrorismWow..He himself surrendered against militants and that was “a highly brave” move.
Salman’s voice is the voice of Pakistani civil society…Salman…Keep up the good work.
Who has given Mr. Mush the right to remove judges? Bilal – Please Please stop him destroying the institutions in Pakistan. A society can not survive without justice. Please ask him to give us our judicial system and Media back. We don’t need puppet judges…
Your father thinks that we are lesser humans. He should not try to run the country as a force. Mr. Mush can oblidge Pakistanis by exiting from the power. But in either case, he should be punished by the courts for breaking the law, constition. He should be given Punishment in future by Pak Judiciary so that nobody does it again.
Is it true that Musharraf asked Abdullah Gul to give him a house on a nude beach in Istanbul. Can Bilal confirm this?
Altaf Hussain want to join Musharraf too if that is true.
Thanks,
Aamir Altaf
Jeevay jeevay Altaf jeevay
Geo Musharraf Geo
Altaf Hussain on a nude beach….!! I just cannot stop laughing at the thought of an “Black Indian Water Bufflo” lying naked on beach in Istanbul or for that matter any beach……Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Altaf Bhai, you are funny…
Looks like Altaf and Musharraf have already landed on a beach:
http://www.mainetoday.com/pets/dogslife/ch%20and%20f%20run%20pine.jpg
Geo Altaf, Geo Mush
Bilal (MC) Musharraf,
I dedicate this piece to your illustrious father and your grand-parents, enjoy:
Ek randi da puttar Pervez Musharraf
Ek kutti da puttar Pervez Musharraf
Ek kanjri da puttar Pervez Musharraf
Ek dallay da puttar Pervez Musharraf
Ek soor da puttar Pervez Musharraf
Haram da Pervez Musharraf
I am not sure about others, but kanjri da puttar can’t be doubted, as Musharraf admits in his own autobiography.