I share with you an open letter sent by Salman Ahmed of Junoon to Bilal Musharraf, son of General Pervaiz Muhsarraf, I had received the email directly from Salman but had resisted the urge to post it since I thought he may have not meant it to go public, but when I read that this email exchange was posted up on PkPolitics.com i decided to share it with my readers as well –
Post updated at 20:17 with a letter from a Pakistani asking Bilal Musharraf some honest questions
The first email from Bilal Musharraf to Salman Ahmed
I am compelled once again to share another personal anecdote, rather a saga¦ and apologize in advance for the length of the account. This one is about Salman Ahmed.
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You read heaps and write heaps
And bury your head in books
Light is everywhere but where you are
And you haven’t a clue how to reach itMarking time in extra prayers
Climbing a minaret and screeching
Mounting a pulpit and preaching – –
All this has nothing to do with knowledgeCryptic Sciences? Enough already!
Aleph is all you need ¦. Iko aleph teray darkaar
Title: Aleph
Album: Parvaaz
Lyrics: Bulley Shah
Music: Salman AhmadSalman has been a close friend and a spiritual guide of sorts since 1998. It started with an email I wrote to Salman (got his email address from my brother-in-law) in a moment of unabashed inspiration after listening to Ali Azmat sing “Aleph? over and over again. From what I remember, “Aleph: A Call to Basics? was the subject line of that email. I was star struck when I heard back from Salman, and pursued further correspondence that developed into a friendship. My brother-in-law Asim had made Junoon’s first video ‘Sayonee,? The video, along with the amazing album ‘Azadi’ had propelled Junoon to become the best international band by Channel V in 1998. Asim went on to make videos for Junoon’s live concert at central park in 1998 (a tribute to Nusrat Fateh Ali), “Yaar Bina,? “Bulleya?, and “Saqi Nama.?
It was the live concert in NY where I finally met Salman for the very first time. I had been married six months and my wife and I drove down from Boston as typical “groupies? singing Junoon’s songs all the way on the drive over to the concert. The attached picture below will probably better articulate our “junooni? state. In the packed to capacity crowd of 20,000 at the summer stage, I had picked my wife up on my shoulders because she couldn’t see anything¦. In fact a Friday Times journalist who wrote about the concert included an image of the of us swooning to the music, and captioning the picture “On Top of the World?. This was 1998, prior to the anomalous events that were to happen in my life and I remember my parents and my in-laws getting a good laugh out of the embarrassing moment caught on camera. I also remember this concert as the high point of Junoon’s fame.So what began as a random email exchange led to a friendship that is now close to a decade old. The events of this year have unfortunately cast a shadow on the authenticity of the relationship, and I stand guarded with regard to where we stand today. Salman was one of very few individuals that I reached out to on a regular basis to bounce off thoughts and ideas, seeking guidance in managing my emotional and psychological self. He has been a source of support and inspiration, and I truly grateful to him for that. His valuable insights (Salman’s extremely well read), were meaningful for me in negotiating with circumstances that I unexpectedly found myself in. I feel that for Salman, music is a platform but I really feel he is best suited to play a bigger role in the scheme of things. I used to describe Salman as a Sufi to the core. He walked the walk and talked the talk, when it came to standing up for what he believed in. However here is where I start feeling sad and disappointed¦. Because I don’t know what he believes in anymore. Please allow me to explain.
The first time my alarm bells rang were regarding the future of the band Junoon itself. I remember having a conversation in which I tried to persuade husband and wife, Salman and Samina, that since Ali and Brian were dropping out of the band, that Salman no longer use junoon’s name. Why? Because Salman’s personal musical and intellectual journey was going in a direction that Junoon’s music might not have gone, had the band and the fans stayed together. Not that I could speak for “the fans?, I was just one of them. In my humble opinion the “junoon? phenomenon was not just Salman, Ali and Brian, it was also the 1990s, the newly unleashed power of rock, and a youth bulge feeling stifled and desperately looking for change. For any one band member to unilaterally try to run with junoon might take away from the junoon experience, similar to how Matrix II and III actually ended up eroding Matrix I. Let it be, was my verdict. So many new bands had come up, who paid homage to Junoon (Noori, Jal etc.) for opening the doors, but were much better at riding the youth’s passion. In fact I made a half baked pitch to take the character “Jeem? from Junoon perhaps, and broaden its domain as being “Jeem? for “jiddojehed, jurrat, jazba? etc. not just passion ala junoon. In a shallow vein, I suggested looking at what happened to the men’s clothing store “Structure? as an example. “Express?, which was a women’s clothing line acquired “Structure? and started calling it “Express for Men? but it failed. Men simply refused to wear clothes that said Express on them because they didn’t feel it was right. I feel something similar is happening to Junoon.
The second context of the alarm bells had to do with feeling uncomfortable hearing messianic verdicts from Salman regarding my father until maybe last year, to the extent that I felt a need to discount the faith in autocracy as being able to deliver on all fronts. As Joel Polodny (current Dean at Yale, former OB professor at GSB) put it, “In the short term, performance can almost always be enhanced by foregoing logic of person and emphasizing logic of position. In the long term however, logic of person (read: vision) facilitates accountability, flexibility, and motivation. Leadership depends on a balance.? I was a bit disappointed when a picture of Salman and my father that I had taken some years back when Salman met me in Pindi appeared on Junoon’s website (http://www.junoon.com/news_archive2003.htm). Although Salman had asked for the picture, he had not indicated that it would go on the website, let alone also be credited to me publicly! In any case, I reconciled with that as no big deal.
This year though, has left me truly disappointed and hurt. If Salman feels the need to neutralize the burden of prior public contact with my father with his venomous rhetoric, I find it not just unjust but truly unfair. Looking back today, I am unable to decipher whether his motivation for prior public overtures towards my father were selfless or selfish in nature. I told him just last month in Calgary (at the Mystical Journey Tour: http://www.theismaili.org/he2-3.htm) the difference between him and Bono is that Bono wouldn’t post a picture with Bush on his own website, even if he sees the President as an instrument of change and not the personification of it.
No one is perfect, I realize. However to the extent one can, one must try to reduce one’s integrity gap which someone defined aptly as the difference between lived values and stated values.
Bilal [Musharraf]
Response by Salman Ahmed to Bilal Musharraf
Dear Bilal,
Thanks for this shared e-mail. I’ve never publicly responded to you but am compelled to do so now. I’ll respond to the public part of your criticism of my changed stance against your father’s policies. For the record, my support for your father’s vision of “enlightened moderation” was never based on any personal expectations or “marketing” (rock musicians dont usually like hanging out with military dictators) My prior public support to your father’s govt. along with that of the vast majority of Pakistanis was given in the belief that he would deliver on his public promises to fight extremism, respect civil institutions,bring accountability to corrupt politicians, open up a free and independent media and reduce the immoral gap between Pakistan’s rich and poor. The picture that you took of me with your dad was taken in 2003,when I felt that the international media was cynically and wrongly depicting Pakistan as a total terrorist state being defended by “only” one pro-western moderate Pakistani, your father. Although i was ridiculed by many for doing so, but i chose to put that picture on the Junoon website after the assasination attempts on your father in December 2003. The picture was meant to symbolise the majority support of Pakistan’s civil society for the fight against extremism and lawlessness. That picture and my support for your father’s govt (WHICH YOU WOULD VOUCH,I HAVE NEVER ABUSED FOR PERSONAL GAIN NOR HAVE MY FAMILY OR FRIENDS) was never meant to be taken as a blank check for the state machinery to run amok and start dismantling civil institutions, making deals with crooks and plunderers, treating civil servants like common criminals, kidnapping and killing innocent Pakistanis under the guise of the “war on terror” and illegally spying, torturing and jailing thousands of Pakistanis (which include national heroes, supreme court judges, lawyers, rights activists, house wives and students).
My recent op-ed in the Washington post and my public disassociation with your father should not be a surprise to you. I wrote many candid e-mails to you in August and September of this year,sharing my concern about your father’s policies and his govt’s high handed tactics.You responded by saying I was being too harsh to which I reminded you that true friends are not meant to be mistaken for sycophants and cronies but are a True barometer of the public’s perceptions.You chose to ignore these warning e-mails and dismissed them as “emotionalism”. Even when you visited me while I was on tour in Canada in October, you promised that there would be no reason to impose emergency in Pakistan and you assured me that your father respects the judiciary and has spoken to the chief justice of the supreme court in this regard. Alas, even that myth has now been totally shattered. The supreme court judges are also citizens of Pakistan who have courageously tried to stick to the letter and the spirit of the law for which they are being punished by your father’s govt. Why is this so?All that I write above is not just my view but the view of millions of Pakistanis and independent observers. I’m not writing out of spite or revenge but conveying the voice of Pakistan’s not so silent majority. As an artist I have also publicly criticized previous Pakistani rulers who like your dad made the mistake of not respecting civil society or civil institutions and I will continue to do so in the future as well. Staying silent is no longer an option, Art disturbs and artists have no choice but to listen to their conscience.
Yours Sincerely,
Salman AhmadP.S. I still have the e-mails that I wrote to you privately which reflect my public disapproval of your father’s deviation from his self confessed path of enlightened moderation, I can resend them if you’d like.
Updated with a response from a Pakistani
Dear Mr Bilal Musharraf,
I don’t know you personally and have absolutely nothing personally against you or your father. Since the civil society and those understanding law i.e. lawyers are up against the way things have unfolded in our beloved nation, I have decided to write to you. Can you please care to answer the following questions ( no I am not on any agenda nor any foreign govt has paid me to protest against your father, I am just an ordinary citizen)
- Are we children of lesser God that your father while addressing western audience time and again declares that this country cannot have western way of democracy
- What divine right he has to give himself extension after extension what agenda he has to finish or is it personal lust of power he seems to have
- What personal grudge he has against civil society while fighting a war on terror against fundamentalists
- Do you think it is possible in western society (barring Bush) to govern a country like your father is doing. He is making amendments after amendment to keep himself at hem of affairs courtesy, Malik Qayyum, Peerzada and many more like them
- A man is known by the company he keeps, look at the people he is surrounded by Big arm Wasi Zafar, Sher afghan, Shujjat, Sheikh Rashid, Ahmad Raza Qasuri. They are national embarrassment. Can you put your hand on your heart and say your father could not find any bright, intellectual patriotic Pakistan amongst 160 million people or he convenient has surrounded by pathetic, sycophants who say only things he wants to hear. THEY ARE AN INSULT TO OUR INTELLIGENCE
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- Why has democracy not been allowed to flourish. I want these corrupt politicians to be voted out by not hounded by ISI, NAB. Why are Nab-wanted politicians like Saleh Hayat, Sherpao in your father’s cabinet. I am not for any current politicians but like a child learns to walk and falters many time before start walking, I want people 160 millions of them to learn to walk and vote them out. For God sake give these people a chance to walk and learn
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Bad democracy is better than good dictatorship. We are not serfs or subhumans, we can learn too you know. Imagine if your father while he was teaching you how to walk had treated you with similar disdain and impatience
We want rule of law. I as an ordinary citizen can understand the contradictions in your father’s statement no matter how much links his personal ambition with national interest he fails to do so. I am 45 years old and have seen a few eras in my life. I had looked for heroes for my time and couldnot find any until recently. I am proud to live in this time and witness scores of lawyers, judges, students ordinary civil society, media anchor people standing up for one thing rule of law. My nation has a hope. This hope is not from privileged people in power but the above mentioned heroes.
Dear Sir, I will not be surprised if suddenly I am hounded by your agencies and may end up with renal failure. (isn’t it the fate of many brave men who dare to criticize your father) But remember, history is very cruel and Khuda ki lathee bay awaz hoti hay. have some perspective and comes of delusions and paranoia. zaban-e-khalq ko naqaar-e-khuda samjho
I salute Salman Ahmad for his stand. Music has come alive again. John Lennon will be proud of you. As far as Mr President is concerned “Grave yard of this world if full of indispensible people” Sirf allah ka naam raya ga.
Best wishes
Nighat
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Asalamo Alikum to all Brothers and sisters,
“United in Hajj, divided by the Rulers”
As Muslim it is indeed a beautiful sight to behold, as every year millions travel to the Sacred City with the same pure intention.
“And proclaim to humankind the Hajj. They will come to you on foot and every lean camel, they will come from every deep and distant (wide) mountain highway (to perform Hajj)” (TMQ 22:27)
When this verse was revealed Muslims numbered a few and were confined to the Arabian Peninsula. Yet even at that time Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) revealed that the Muslims would be spread out through this vast creation, as is so evident today, when one considers that Muslims are found throughout the world. So today it can be seen that camels really would become lean from the journey. The spirit of the Hajj is really conjured up in this thought; millions of people using all means of transport to pursue a quest, and journey in the true sense of the word, all in the direction of the Sacred House. This same direction that every individual faces at least five time a day in submission to the Creator, Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala). The magnetism of Allah’s house attracts Muslims in prayer, in thoughts and emotions, and the greatest journey that any Muslim will make.
Muslims in the past would spend months travelling for Hajj by foot, by camel, and by boat. Today evidence of this is found throughout Islamic Lands. For example, there are many small communities between what is now Sudan and Nigeria where Xhossa (the language of Northern Nigeria) is spoken. The Xhossa speaking Muslim made a string of communities on the Hajj trail. The potent atmosphere of an old West African village, when it was announced that a family has to set out on the Hajj trial, can only be imagined today. The immensity and importance of Hajj would be put into all of the members of the village. Hajj was always a central part of the communal life of Muslims.
There was a time when a Muslim could get on a donkey in Timbuktu and end up in Makkah some months later, with no obstacles but Allah’s created elements and the harshness of the journey. This was at a time when the affairs of Muslims were governed by an authority which drew its guidance from the same source as that of Hajj, the Islamic ‘Aqeedah. Hence there was a harmony between the State and the duty of Hajj.
However, since the Khilafah was destroyed in 1924, till today, the rulers in Islamic Lands seek guidance from other than Islam. They turn to man-made law such as democracy, monarchy or dictatorship. Such a harmony as was experienced by previous generations cannot exist in such a situation. The unity of Hajj is destroyed by the present rulers’ division of Islamic Lands. So Muslims are forced to contend with border checks, quotas for numbers of Hajjis based on nationality, customs and the polite and pleasant officers at Saudi passport control. Centuries of expert schools have discussed in depth the requirement and prerequisites for Hajj. Books of fiqh elaborate who is obliged to perform Hajj, what can and can’t be done in ihram, where to put on ihram, the question of ‘umrah before or after Hajj etc. But nowhere in these books of Islamic law is there mention of visas obtained from the Saudi Embassy or the requirement to travel only on certain national airlines. Nor is there mention of the need to carry an EC passport at all times to avoid being arrested or the electronic fingerprint or eyeball records now being taken of Hajjis. Indeed, nowhere within the Book of Allah or the authentic books of hadith will such things be mentioned.
The Islamic Lands today are governed by non-Islam, which has complicated the lives of Muslims in too many aspects. Hajj is one of those. It is so apparent that the present governments act as an obstacle to the worship of Allah. However, Makkah is still the direction of the Muslims in Prayer. On this Muslims are still unified. Makkah is still the destination for one of the main events of the lives of all Muslims. On this Muslims are still unified. Muslims standing at different points of longitude and latitude, are all unified praying in one direction. It is as if Muslims are praying in one massive Jama’ah. The pull of the Sacred City gives this Ummah invigoration at the time of Hajj. Muslims must try to harness this vigour and direct it towards the obstacles that lay in front of them as an Ummah.
May Allah accept the efforts of all of the Hajjis this year, and bring the true meaning of Hajj into all hearts. May Allah give dignity and strength to this Ummah through those things that it remains unified upon. May Allah help the Ummah to destroy the barriers that remain between Muslims: physically, politically and spiritually.
Asalamo Alikum to all Brothers and sisters,
“United in Hajj, divided by the Rulers”
As Muslim it is indeed a beautiful sight to behold, as every year millions travel to the Sacred City with the same pure intention.
“And proclaim to humankind the Hajj. They will come to you on foot and every lean camel, they will come from every deep and distant (wide) mountain highway (to perform Hajj)” (TMQ 22:27)
When this verse was revealed Muslims numbered a few and were confined to the Arabian Peninsula. Yet even at that time Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) revealed that the Muslims would be spread out through this vast creation, as is so evident today, when one considers that Muslims are found throughout the world. So today it can be seen that camels really would become lean from the journey. The spirit of the Hajj is really conjured up in this thought; millions of people using all means of transport to pursue a quest, and journey in the true sense of the word, all in the direction of the Sacred House. This same direction that every individual faces at least five time a day in submission to the Creator, Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala). The magnetism of Allah’s house attracts Muslims in prayer, in thoughts and emotions, and the greatest journey that any Muslim will make.
Muslims in the past would spend months travelling for Hajj by foot, by camel, and by boat. Today evidence of this is found throughout Islamic Lands. For example, there are many small communities between what is now Sudan and Nigeria where Xhossa (the language of Northern Nigeria) is spoken. The Xhossa speaking Muslim made a string of communities on the Hajj trail. The potent atmosphere of an old West African village, when it was announced that a family has to set out on the Hajj trial, can only be imagined today. The immensity and importance of Hajj would be put into all of the members of the village. Hajj was always a central part of the communal life of Muslims.
There was a time when a Muslim could get on a donkey in Timbuktu and end up in Makkah some months later, with no obstacles but Allah’s created elements and the harshness of the journey. This was at a time when the affairs of Muslims were governed by an authority which drew its guidance from the same source as that of Hajj, the Islamic ‘Aqeedah. Hence there was a harmony between the State and the duty of Hajj.
However, since the Khilafah was destroyed in 1924, till today, the rulers in Islamic Lands seek guidance from other than Islam. They turn to man-made law such as democracy, monarchy or dictatorship. Such a harmony as was experienced by previous generations cannot exist in such a situation. The unity of Hajj is destroyed by the present rulers’ division of Islamic Lands. So Muslims are forced to contend with border checks, quotas for numbers of Hajjis based on nationality, customs and the polite and pleasant officers at Saudi passport control. Centuries of expert schools have discussed in depth the requirement and prerequisites for Hajj. Books of fiqh elaborate who is obliged to perform Hajj, what can and can’t be done in ihram, where to put on ihram, the question of ‘umrah before or after Hajj etc. But nowhere in these books of Islamic law is there mention of visas obtained from the Saudi Embassy or the requirement to travel only on certain national airlines. Nor is there mention of the need to carry an EC passport at all times to avoid being arrested or the electronic fingerprint or eyeball records now being taken of Hajjis. Indeed, nowhere within the Book of Allah or the authentic books of hadith will such things be mentioned.
The Islamic Lands today are governed by non-Islam, which has complicated the lives of Muslims in too many aspects. Hajj is one of those. It is so apparent that the present governments act as an obstacle to the worship of Allah. However, Makkah is still the direction of the Muslims in Prayer. On this Muslims are still unified. Makkah is still the destination for one of the main events of the lives of all Muslims. On this Muslims are still unified. Muslims standing at different points of longitude and latitude, are all unified praying in one direction. It is as if Muslims are praying in one massive Jama’ah. The pull of the Sacred City gives this Ummah invigoration at the time of Hajj. Muslims must try to harness this vigour and direct it towards the obstacles that lay in front of them as an Ummah.
May Allah accept the efforts of all of the Hajjis this year, and bring the true meaning of Hajj into all hearts. May Allah give dignity and strength to this Ummah through those things that it remains unified upon. May Allah help the Ummah to destroy the barriers that remain between Muslims: physically, politically and spiritually.
Thanks and Jazakallah khair.
Wacko, crazy, deranged and imbeciles are ruling this site as much as some born again muslim.
i cannot believe that a well read person like bilal musharraf could really “believe” that his father is the last word in wisdom and integrity. now he must be kidding himself – !
This blog tells you how much this bastard is loved in Pakistan.
The idiot thinks that because the Chaudry’s managed to arrnge a Jalsa for him in Islamabad on May 12th (The day when Karachi was the killing field of innocent people by MQM) that the crowd actually came to see and her him out???
You moran, Chaudry’s made a fool of you. A Deputy Commissioner sitting in USA can call his Patwari’s and Tappadars and generate a crowd of 50,000 people.
Now Chaundry’s are out of power and are scared to even hold a “jalsa” on their own less they get rediculed in front of the crowd that Shareef’s are pulling…
BILAL, WAKE-UP, THE ONLY SUPPORT YOUR UGLY DAD HAS IS IN KARACHI AND THAT TOO FROM MUHAJIR QUAMI MOVEMENT SUPPORTERS AND THE ETHNIC BASED CLASS OF URDU SPEAKING PEOPLE THRE. 93% OF PAKISTAN WILL LYNCH YOUR DAD IF THEY EVER GET THEIR HANDS ON HIM. HE WILL EVEN LOOSE HIS REAL SKIN….
This blog tells you how much this bastard is loved in Pakistan.
The idiot thinks that because the Chaudry’s managed to arrnge a Jalsa for him in Islamabad on May 12th (The day when Karachi was the killing field of innocent people by MQM) that the crowd actually came to see and her him out???
You moran, Chaudry’s made a fool of you. A Deputy Commissioner sitting in USA can call his Patwari’s and Tappadars and generate a crowd of 50,000 people.
Now Chaundry’s are out of power and are scared to even hold a “jalsa” on their own less they get rediculed in front of the crowd that Shareef’s are pulling…
BILAL, WAKE-UP, THE ONLY SUPPORT YOUR UGLY DAD HAS IS IN KARACHI AND THAT TOO FROM MUHAJIR QUAMI MOVEMENT SUPPORTERS AND THE ETHNIC BASED CLASS OF URDU SPEAKING PEOPLE THRE. 93% OF PAKISTAN WOULD SKIN YOUR DAD ALIVE IF THEY EVER GET THEIR HANDS ON HIM. HE WILL EVEN LOOSE HIS REAL SKIN….
Adil,
Well read does not account for much if there is darkness in the heart. Perhap Bilal (MC) Musharraf quoted Baba Bulleh Shah for himself:
You read heaps and write heaps
And bury your head in books
Light is everywhere but where you are
And you havent a clue how to reach it
Marking time in extra prayers
Climbing a minaret and screeching
Mounting a pulpit and preaching – –
All this has nothing to do with knowledge
Pakistanis are their biggest and worst enemies themselves..the outsiders only take advantage of the situation and exploit us.
Have you ever seen any Indian protesting in any other country against their governments??any other nationality protesting outside their home country against their governments?.. No..its the quality of Pakistanis only to criticize Pakistan outside Pakistan and invite others to do the same. . ..
WHY Salman never protested against Indian human rights violation in Kashmir.why he never organized any protest in America against U.S.A policies about Iraq and Afgfhanistan.?? Salman Ahmed talks about peace peace peace with India., human rightsthe same India is organizing and funding the militants in Balouchistan ( enough proves are there ) and also Swat valley to take revenge and create the same atmosphere as in Kashmir ( As to what India calls Pakistani Militants in Indian Occupied Kashmir ).and Salman Ahmed doesnt get tired of talking peace with India.
And that is what the Pakistani media was doing, presenting only negative image about Pakistan by making these so called suicide bombers the hero of the nation and criticizing every move made by government.Leaving all the progress the country has made during Musharraf tenure, they are just concentrating on the mistakes
Pakistan has very clearly progressed in Musharrafs term on every front!..and all the reports of World Banks, Pakistan credit ratings, stock exchanges and Foreign exchange reserves are clearly indicating this.
What wrong was Musharraf doing if he did an operation in Lal Masjid, what wrong did he do if he carried out an operation in Swat valley against millitants or in Balouchistan.
Do u want Pakistan to b ruled by extremist with machine guns in their hands ??
Isnt Benazir the one who made these Talibans?…She would have done the same thing today what Musharraf is doing the woman who is coming with the support of USA to Pakistan what can u expect from her,isnt she the one who said that she will allow U.S investigators to Dr Qadir?
People like Salman Ahmed tarnished Pakistans image for their personal publicity gains , there are lots of people doing that outside Pakistan
You criticize Musharraf for making a deal with Benazir?? This is a well debated fact and news that who pressurized Musharraf to make a deal and let her return to Pakistan, The Americans did, bcoz they thought that this will help in war against terror and extremist,
Salman do u have the guts to to arrange a protest in Washington against the American Government for doing so??No u dont bcoz America is your home country now and criticizing America will jeopardize your career in America and put u in trouble!
Does Musharraf has a choice in terms of Leaderships in Pakistan to work with??
You talk about Imran Khanon one hand he is supporting religious parties Mullahs Qazi Hussain on the other hand he is conducting fashion shows in dubai and collecting funds for his hospital where the models are showing their cleavages and bare backs!!
Isnt he a hypocrite!……And the very same religious party Jamaat Student wing held him captive and handed him over to PoliceYet he didnt learn anything!!These opposition parties are making alliances with each other on what agenda just to remove Musharrafwhat other solutions do they have for Pakistans problems.. and now u see the fate of these alliances ..shattering into pieces ..
can they do better than Musharraf in tackling extremism, dealing with America and India, Israel.Musharraf is the only man standing in between America, Israel and Indias invasion on Pakistan.
Ask these opposition leaders what will be their policies on Pakistan’s problems
mentioning all the problems one by one starting with : waziristan, taliban, policies with afghan govt, allegation of afghan govt on pakistan, balouchistan, indian interference in balochistan, terrorism, suicide bombings, how will they curb extremism in Pakistan.?what will they do to improve pakistans distorted image as an extremist nation??what will be the Kashmir policy,? will they show more leniency towards India on Kashmir than what musharraf has already shown in confidence building measures??? issue of dr qadir khan??how will they deal with the american pressure in fighting against terror., do they have the guts to say no to america?everyone knows that whoever will be in the govt in pakistan has to do according to the Usa demands… so how r they going to be different than Musharraf??
What will be their economic policy for Pakistans progress?, if they think that economy has not improved in musharrafs tenure, ..which clearly has improved.
why the media and press were not so independent in benazir and nawaz govt??why didnt they allow??
India has taken advantage of Pakistans internel situation and has opened Siachen for tourists?? Although its a disputed territory ?? what r they going to do about it ??
If these opposition parties are not going to be different than musharraf in solving the problems of Pakistan then why not Musharraf.. Musharraf has done a better job on every front than all the previous governments
What kind of Pakistan would u like to see ? where everyday there are protest, agitation, political anarchy, chaos America is not interested in Pakistans democracy or civil rights in Pakistanhe is only concern about the war on terror.that bcoz the disturbance in Pakistan will effect so called war on terror .
This Iftikhar Choudhry took oath under PCO when first time Musharraf took charge of government over throwing Nawaz Sharif..That time also there was emergency and PCO..why he took oath then??
To Nighat: how many more years u want to give this nation to learn to walk ?? 52 years arnt enough? Twice Benazir, twice Nawaaz , what have we got??
If u r not in Pakistan , then just go and see what progress Pakistan has made in terms of infrastructures, roads, malls, dams etc and what projects are in line announced by Musharraf govt and u will know the difference.
Child of Lesser God..no we are not the children of lesser Godbut the only God.
But unfortunately we have not been able to prove that in 52 years..whereas the democracy in the west have flourished bcoz of the literate and tolerant leadership
Who never protested about the policies of their government outside their countries
who accepts defeat as defeat unlike Pakistan where the looser never agrees and start politics of confrontation, agitation, on roads, strikes, disturbing the economics, thus jamming and paralyzing the whole countrys growth and the ones who came into powers were putting all their energies and sources in trying to make cases against their opponents and stopping the projects started by the previous government, further taking Pakistan backwards instead of forward.,, All the cases against Benazir at present in the courts were filed by Nawaz Sharifs governmentnot Musharraf….
Pakistan has no time to experiment again taking Nawaz and Benazir, WE cant afford to become bank defaulters and declared a failed state again ? CAN WE??
If Pakistan does not do the operations in Swat and Waziristan, and Balouchistan, the American alliance will do it in the name of war on terrorand India is creating the atmosphere in Pakistan by supporting BLA .and America does not need your permission for attacking Pakistan.and India and Israel are waiting for that day!!do u want Pakistan to become Iraq..and we are just fighting internally, stuck in Vardi and jamhooriat and bullshits.
We need a politically stable, united and economically progressing Pakistan.
Just recently In Bangladesh also army chief declared emergency and took over! Why there is no fuss about that in the world?? Why we have not seen any protest by any Bengladeshi outside Bengladesh?? Why the world is not concern..
Why all the hell is breaking loose in and on Pakistan??
We Pakistanis are our biggest enemiesand no one else …outsiders only take advantage of it.,
Musharraf is the only man standing in between Indias, Israel and Americas invasion on Pakistanthey all are looking for an opportunity to come and we the Pakistanis are very much helping them by creating more disturbance and unstability, politics of street protest in Pakistan.
Justdoit, if you had conviction in your beliefs you wouldn’t hide your name. Why are you so ashamed of your beliefs that you can’t even reveal your identity.
Anyways it does not take rocket-science to figure out that the braindead Mr JUSTDOIT is one of the following.
1) Bilal Musharraf
2) A bastard brother of Bilal Musharraf
3) A lobotomized MQM worker
It seems ‘justdoit’ want to say thet all protesters are goofs and enemies of Pakistan and his highness musharraf is the only indispensible leader.
Why is it so easy for Pro-Musharraf-folk to label His opponents as enemies of Pakistan. ?
Believe it or not Mr. justdoit, this is very last resort of insecurity and stubborness.
To justdoit,
I am glad you chose 16th December to comment on my letter. Today when my heart is bleeding trying to remember what happened to this country in 1971,when Army was ruling this nation and ruling so heavily that it forgot to carry out the constitutional duties it had sworn to undertake i.e. defend her borders. The high command so busy trying to crush the democratic forces in connivance with yet another Bhutto that it forgot it was killing its own people the Bengalis. They were too busy merrymaking to realize that real strength comes from the ordinary mortals and urchins, not guns. As a daughter of an ex army man, my head still hangs in shame when I saw my uncles, cousins taken as a POWs without putting a fight.
You see sir; there are two ways of doing things. Right way and the wrong way. There is no middle way. Mr. Musharraf has chosen the wrong way (according to his own admittance)
My questions should have been answered as I raised them
Sweeping statements have led us the state where we are.
Yes I still want my right to choose. I absolutely agree with your assessment of politicians and my letter says that, but Sir is Army rule of 8 years the answer? Please forgive me for demanding my basic right to choose and I will die making this demands.
Sir I am just an ordinary person and watching these events with distress. In which country do you see a grade 22 officer making constitution amendments with the help of one of the most discredited person in legal fraternity Qayyum Malik. Pakistan will remember Mr. Mush and his legal team in one of its darkest chapters.
I am a moderate, educated middle class citizen. Historically, religious and fundamentalist parties were rejected by me and millions like me in this country for decades. Those of us who are students of current affairs, know jolly well that IJI (Islamic Jamhoori Itihad) was formed by ISI (check with Hamid Gul). Zia Ul Haq was the patron in chief of religious parties. Mr. Musharraf had let MMA form the government in NWFP and Balochistan. In short, elements in Pakistan army alone are the patrons in chief of religious extremists, not the average Pakistani. I am not by any means against brave men and women of Pakistan army. I am a granddaughter, daughter, sister of army men and a proud one. Musharraf single handedly has discredited our fine professional men
I have chosen to live and work in this country (I had many choices to live in greener pastures too). The progress you are talking about is challenged by many economists, (independent ones). Have some objectivity sir. Has this progress been confined to DHAs, housing societies and construction boom? it has not affected the common man. Please check the market rates of Flour, vegetables, dals (basic eatery of masses), house rents, bus fares to go to work, and then make me a budget with a salary of 6000 Rs per month. You call shopping malls sign of progress!!!
Please also check the loans written off by banks of defaulters and cronies of Mush. Benazir is corrupt so are Sharifs, but Musharraf is ready to work with the. Wonder why? And has been working with Chaudries, Sherpao, Saleh hayat. So you argument about keeping corrupt politicians out of power has no merit. Please also check the richest Pakistanis in Washington list, you might find ex armed forces men in it.
I was in Pakistan on 12th May .What happened in Karachi should put all educated Pakistanis to shame and remorse. What did Mr. Mush decide to do? He was chest thumping like a Gorilla over power of his people.
Your strategy is no different from Bush and Neocons, keep the terror alert elevated
Regards
Nighat
By justdoit on Dec 15, 2007 | Reply
Before you wrote the below piece, let me ask you if you heard “The Don Of London” speech he gave in India against Pakistan. I think it was aired in Hamid Mir’s program. Your long sermon makes no mention of the water buffalo sitting in London?
I quote your statement below;
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I think Aamir Altaf has read you the best. You are exactly what Aamir stated; You are either a bastard brother of Bilal Musharraf, if not himself or a lobotomized MQM worker..
Ms Nighat,
While I agree with you, I don’t think you were fair to Bush.
Bush is a far better person than Musharraf for the following reasons:
1) He is (in his dimunitive mind) sincere to his nation
2) He is sincere to his faith, a church-going, bible-reading man.
Mush, on the other hand, is a traitor to his nation as Iqbal said:
“Nang-e deen, nang-e millat, nang-e watan”
I am not a Bush fan, but Bush is at least sincere to his people and to his christian faith.
All of us are equally concerned about the constitutional ammendement Mr. Mush is making However there is a blessing in disguise.
According to me, the best part of today’s Pakistan is that the literate class of Pakistan (whether they are in Pak or or abroad) have outrightly rejected, Mr.Mush’s extra-constitutional steps in thelast 9 months.
The entire civil society, students, lawyers, youth, intellectuals, writers everybody is condeming his acts.
In my view, its a positive thing that we are mature enough to understand and respect ourselves. We want rule of law back and there is no disagreement on it.
There are a few who are avoiding the common demands but they are exposed well in our eyes such as Ms Bhutto, Maulana Fazlur Rehman..
Let me highlight another fact. I was born in Karachi and stayed there for first 22 years of my life. People of Karachi do not like Altaf Hussain and trust me if there are fair elections in Karachi, MQM will not be able to win more than 2,3 seats. Most of the Urdu speaking community does not like MQM anymore.
Gone are the days when urdu speaking community used to give MQM the heavy mandate. This was there upto 1990 and it is no more true. Our dictator Mr. Mush has joined hands with MQM due to his own political intrest which is giving MQM a new political life. Today, if Mr. Mush does not remain in power, there happens a free and fair election in Pak, results from Karachi would automatically reveal the truth.
Many Thanks,
Kashif
No one wonder wadera Altaf Hussain is too scared to come back to Karachi.
The people calling abuses to Bilal and President Musharraf are not even worth of calling human being because of their mental sickness.It is the freedom of Press and civil liberties that these mentally distorted persons are utteringabuses and nonsences.I ask all these people about the action taken by Musharraf of supporting America after 9/11 when threatened to attack Pakistan if not supportted Americans on Afghanistan issue.Was there any other option?What these Brave self made idiots who believe abusing Head Of State and his family, could do at that time.Pakistan would have been another Afghanistan and Iraq.President Musharraf saved Pakistan and our people from all humiliation and destruction.But we forget all good deeds and only look for our personal benefits.In our Society,the worst exploiters and black mailers belong to three groups:1)Journalists who get little money from Newspapers and media but earn from exploiting and black mailing 2)Judges and judicial system and lawyers.The people in pakistan pray that none should have to go to courts because of injustice and corrution rampant in courts.The majority of Judges right from lower courts to SC are corrupt and have no moral values.Simlarly majority of lawyers are Touts of Judges.Justice is for sale in Pakistan. 3)Civil Buerocracy who have looted Pakistan since its existence.
All above factions of society are opposing President Musharraf otherwise there is absolutely no agitation or protests against Musharraf in whole country.Pakistanis are happy with the development done during Musharraf tenure where per capita income has more than doubled during his time.
There are only few thousand arrogant,corrupt and black mailers who are againt Musharraf who have been bribed by Nawaz Sharif,the worst plunderer of Pakistan’s wealth during his rule.These people are showing storm in cup due to vested intersts.These media people are the biggest black mailers in Pakistan and every Pakistani know this fact.They even openly black mail Police which is extremely corrupt as well.
Sheikhu,
You are so full of sh!t that your note does not even merit a reply.
Ignorance is bliss! Keep typing these idiotic messages without acknowledging that Musharraf subverted the consititution only to prolong his rule. Only Altaf and lobotomized MQM workers will support Musharraf.
• 9 world class Engineering universities being developed and 18 Public universities already developed.
• Private sector institutions have increased from 36,096 (in 1999) to become 81,103 (in 2006).
• PAK is 3rd best in world Banking profitability.
• PAK IT industry now values around $2 billion, including $1 billion exports and employs around 90,000 professionals.
• About 80,000 direct & 500,000 indirect jobs have been created only by the Telecom sector.
• Industrial Parks are being setup throughout the country for the first time! M3 estate, Sundar industrial estate, Chakri, etc.
• Major Mega projects like the Saindak, Rekodiq, Marble production, Coal production and Mining & Quarrying are being pursued.
• In 2006, GDP growth is 6%. Earlier in 1999 was 3.5%.
• Foreign Reserves from $1 bn to $17 bn.
• KHI stock market: from 700 points to 13,000 points.
• Literacy rate improved by 11%.
• Poverty decreased by 10%.
• He made 4 dams: Mirani, Subakzai, Gomalzam, Khurram Tangi dams.
• 6 Motorways completed or under construction: M1, M3, M8, M9, M10, M11.
• Six major highways under construction.
• GWADAR advance mega Sea port developed under his vision!
• Historic 100% increase in Tax collection of $11 billion.
• Large scale manufacturing is 30 year high, and Construction activity is 17 year high.
• Newly found World class copper- gold deposits in Chagai will fetch $600 million per year.
• A new Oil refinery with UAE will fetch $5 billion & will process 300,000 oil barrels a day.
• CNG sector has attracted over $70 billion investment in last 5 years; and created 30,000 jobs.
• Industrial sector registered 26% growth.
• PAK in 1999 was a $75 billion economy; and now 2006 it’s $160 billion economy!
• PAK economy is now the 3rd fastest growing economy after China & India.
and ata 25 rs/kg
Following are a few facts to see the other side of teh coin:
Judiciary System collapsed in Pak in 2007 to prolong Mush’s Rule.
Pakistani’s membership to common wealth suspended and Pak became the only country to hold a record of 3 suspensions.
More than 50 journalists are killed in Pak during Mush’s rule.
Pak is declared as the 3rd most dangerous country after Iraq and Afghan.
We became the wrost deomocratic country in the world where an Army chief ruled for 8 years.
Our judicial system, democratic values defaced us in the world.
Our political leaders were sent on exile and first time ever, other world leaders started intefering in our internal matters.
We lost our case in Baglihar Dam at the international court of justice.
There were at least 50 sucide attacks in Pakistan during last 8 years.
Media was banned in Pak and GEO, the most famous channel is still banned.
Constitution was suspended twice in last 8 years and 2 PCOs were issued to shield dictator’s rule.
Mush issued an ordinance providing a clean chit to the looters of national wealth.
The entire NWFP, Balochistan is going through a crisis.
Pakistan is paying the price of war on terrorism and Mush is using this war in its favor.
All the travel advisories issues from western countries made our country a highly risk carry country. Sports teams strated refusing to trip Pak.
Northen By Pass bridge was an example of so called growth in the industrial sector.
Wheat and Sugar crisis in the last few years is known to everybody around. Grocery items prices are reaching to its highes.
Economic activity in Pak mainyl happened due to oversease remittances and it can not be put under Mush’s credit. Stability of institutions, fredom of Media, recognition of Voice of civil society can not be compromised upon so called economic growth.
Many Thanks,
Kashif
Bilal
Can you see anything beyond your own personal interests? Like father like son.
Let your father know that we Pakistanis have finally awakened and have realised that we have been fooled again by another selfish mlitary dictator. We, as a nation stand cheated. We have our heads bowed down with shame due to the crimes your father has comitted. He has destroyed our judiciary, our civil society and our lawyers community. Besides, he has pitched Pakistan Army against his own people and has ordered Airforce to bombard our own lands. He shakes hands with the known enemies of Pakistan and waves a punch to the nation. He and his associates have been lying consistantly since Mar 9, 2007 when the Hero of the people of Pakistan Mr. Iftekhar Ahmed Choudhry, the Chief Justice of Supreme Court of Pakistan refused to surrender to the dictator’s command.
Can you tell me why did your dad go against CJP once the court ruled that the privatisation deal for sale of Pakistan Steel Mill was not transparent? If your dad had been honest, he would have taken to task those who were responsible of this deal. Yet he chose to defend those cheaters and went against the CJP. You know why? Becuase all the frauds and cheaters of Pakistan were then in close alliance with your dad.
How could dictator act against his own power pillers? Like every dictator, your dad has no public support. Therefore he relies heavily upon persons like Wasi Zafer, The Choudhries of Gujrat, Malik Qayyum, Sher Afgan,Tariq Aziz, MQM, Durrani, Ejaz Ul Haq, Qusoori, Faisal Saleh, Hayat Sherpao and the list does not end.
Bilal can you please tell me the names of 50 % of the huge cabinet your dad was able to form after encouraging lotaism in the country’s politics for his personal gains? If you fail to recall these names, please do not feel shy since no Pakistani can.
Finally can you imagine an army chief taking over as President of USA after dethrowning the elected President? Or can an army chief in USA send 2/3rd of superior court judges home on his commmand? If yes, do write so in support of your ideas in any US newspaper and wait what americans have to say to you. If NO, do you and your dad think we are some 3rd class people living in Pakistan who deserve all what is happening in Pakistan and the type of rulers we have now?
Naveed
What the hell is all this crap about. I have not written any letter to any one. This letter is FAKE.I disown whatever is written in the subject letter attributed to me.Nothing is wrong with my father he is alright.
Dear Bilal, could you pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez convey our views to your enlightened father. I am a big critic and fan of your father. I really admire his intelligence, wit and sincerity but approach. Will he answer the following questions publicly:
1. Why in Pakistan even a good man like Mushraf cannot become a President of Pakistan in a normal democratic way and is constrained to undertake extremely unpopular, undemocratic , illegal , unconstitutional ways for becoming a President?
2. And why he could not do any thing in this regard?
3. Why in Pakistan an ordinary mortal like me could NOT dream of becoming a President and why it should always be through the office of COAS?
4. Doesn’t he think we have too much of this Army every where, poking its nose everywhere but not where, where it must?
5. All these big ,big Generals (An army of Generals: serving & retired(sorry they never retire) ) hovering around every where and deciding everything about the fate of this nation of slum dwellers: aren’t they more then the required strength?
6. If he can amend the constitution then what excuse he has for not solving any problem this nation is facing?
7. Doesn’t He and his generals feel ashamed while enjoying the perks which even the American Generals are envious of whereas the fellow citizen majority of whom lives in slums are left unattended and fed with hollow slogans like Bulging Forex reserves?
I have tried to go through all the different letters written about the President.I am just wondering about all the filthy language used by the so-called learned people.You may hate the man for whatever the reason but please do not be so abusive.He may be the worst person according to you and you have every right to criticize him but please do not use such vulgar language about his parents/family.This shows you own family background and the type of brought-up you have got.So,kindly refrain from using such language in future.
– If I’m not mistaken, BB and Nawaz ran away from Pakistan. Their exile was self-imposed. Why? Because of the corruption cases lined against them.
– As far as Bilal is concerned, dude, we shouldn’t be answerable for anyone’s actions except our own.
– Like it or not, prices are going up the world over. This phenomenon is not limited to Pakistan alone. It’s all a simple matter of relativity. Best not to forget.
– Name-Calling?? Pointless…
– MQM-Bashing?? To each his own…
– President Musharraf?? I support you because I believe you are lesser amongst evils… If it hadn’t been for you and your policies esp post 9/11, Pakistan would have been another Afghanistan. Waziristan and Swat?? Well, we would’ve been living in another Iraq. Thank you for not letting America bomb us back to the 9th century.
– Salman Ahmed?? It’s so much more easier to be living elsewhere and make sweeping statements about the people in power. Someone said in an earlier post, injustice is everywhere… then why doesn’t Mr. Salman Ahmed raise his voice where America’s policies regarding the War on Terror are concerned?
– As long as Pakistan progresses, we shouldn’t really care whose in power and who isn’t… after all, waqai mein, Sab Se Pehle Pakistan (no pun intended)
– It’s really sad to see people abusing eachother’s parents and families. Please, it’s a request, leave all others out… spare them…
– No government can satisfy the needs of everyone. It’s strange how the same people who praised Musharraf say some of the most vile and disgusting things about him.
– Oh and by the way, I’m a 23 year old Business Student and have lived in Karachi all my life. True, there have been moments where I have disagreed with President Musharraf’s stance on certain issues, but I’ve seen this city progress like nothing else. No other government in the past (as long as memory and historical records serve me) has granted the Karachi City Government with the Budget to put this city’s needs in order. I thank the current government for not gobbling down every last piece of the monetary pie and spending a substantial amount on the development of my beloved city.
*peace*
Nargis Kamal
I think the people who have been abusing Bilal and his family should be ashamed of themselves. Democracy does not mean that we lambaste each others fathers and family members to kingdom come with lunacy and profane language. Get a grip please!!
As for The general.. i truly believe that even though he has made some pretty messed up decisions in the past months he is a much better leader, a much better person and a much better Pakistani then any of these current crop of politicians vying for a piece of the pie
Let us not forget my friends that Musharaf has fought for this country on battle fields as well…how many of us have? before he ever got a taste of power he has served this country more than any of us would ever dare to do.
And no.. i am not on his payroll.. or leave a chance to take a good humored jibe at him.. i am as upset as many of you are over his decisions regarding the judiciary.. but we cannot take everything away without giving him any credit. All of you who have lived in Karachi or been here in the last 8 years.. have you not noticed the amount of infrastructure development taking place? Have you not seen the roads the services developed more than in any Sheeda tullis or BBs political career? i have lived in this city all my life and i have never seen so much development. Who is to get credit for all this??? are we just brave when we are criticizing? or do we have the balls to give credit where it is due as well?
As far as Salman Ahmed is concerned.. i do not know him… and he is a talented musician yes… but the day i see a celebrity taking a beating in the street along with people like the lawyers and the journalists, they can have my respect. Until then they are just another opinion.
I couldnt help laughing my arse off reading through comments that my fellow countrymen made!
AHHHH ! we are far from it…friends !
read through this thread and ull get to know why we stand here !
The most lamentable tragedy is the indifference of the army. Musharraf used the army as his personal salves for 8 years and the brave men in unifrom don’t even have the guts to court-martial him.
Musharaf has not used army as slaves but its “shared” project, each and everyone of them is minting money. Even the retired generals who used to be a part of this gang are heading various government owned corporations and their corruption is not a secret.
I dont know if Billal got any share from what his father in law took from Husnain Construction in name of consultancy or the $900 million rail project which was given to his father in law without tenders while China proposed to do same project in $ 300 million and that to on basis of 25 years soft loan.
Billal, it is still time to fled from Pakistan.
I have seen some graves which become the target and symbol of hatred, and I assure you that your father is far ahead then what a person can be hated by any society.
And I assure you I have no political agenda and even not residing in Pakistan.
hello Bilal and Salman,
I think both of you stand discredited by the very fact that the country you claim to own and stand up for is not your chosen country of residence.
We ordinary Pakistanis live, breathe and survive the dialy trials and tribulations for this country, because we love, own and live it. We struggle for our causes (whatever they may be). Our causes are ours and we espouse them living in this country because our future generations have a stake in this country.
You live your lives detached from the realities of Pakistan and think you can make a change by writing in websites and newspapers. Please understand Pakistan can only be improved by living and breathing the country not by living in the United States and pontificating under various excuses/justifications.
The people of Pakistan will improve Pakistan not wealthy, privileged runaways who keep trying to represent a country which they consider unfit to live in for any reason.
br
bilal
As for these idiots who get into the ethnic debate of punjabi, muhajir, sindhi, baluchi and pathan. They are nothing but MORONS.
I as a Punjabi would like to say that Karachi is the brain of Pakistan and home to some of the most patriotic Pakistanis possible.
Chauvinism whether its Punjabi, Pathan, Muhajir or of any other variety is UNACCEPTABLE. Each ehinicity is an integral part of Pakistan and brings its own set of merits to our nation.
STOP THIS ETHNIC NAME CALLING AND FOR ONCE SHOW THAT THE MONEY SPENT BY YOUR PARENTS ON YOUR EDUCATION WAS NOT IN VAIN!!!!
Long live KARACHI and every other city of Pakistan.
Long live Pakistan
Democracy is ruled by elected people, wether they are good or bad for the country.
At this stage, current pakistani government should let elections take place on january 8.
Whatever the results are, pakistani people will have to live with it. If turmoil, blasts,shots, riots should arise: this is the slow, painful way to democracy. Remember the immensly bloody french revolution paved the way to western democratic regimes….
Some one was telling that Pakistan does not exist in new world order after 2020. It seems musharraf is there to ensure and expedite this happening.
The type of people we are, i believe we deserve this.
Ali, Faisalk,
There is nothing to laugh about. Musharraf has raped and slaughtered Pakistan.
Well said Electris, Bilal, Gulab and Silence! Keep posting. Objective comments are always a pleasure to read.
Mr Bilal
No doubt you would inherit bllions dollars of lands and assessts of Pakistan that have been taken from a poor nation because your father served this nation as a brutal and sensless nation.If you have time after yours luxurious life you achieved thru yours father think that now you have inherited worst aspects of yours father inheritence,i.e
killings of thousand of civilians and poor soldiers,usurp of power bestowed to him by almighty Allah,Physical and mental torture to those who dare to speak against his policies,misuse of govt funds and resources by selecting corrupt establishment and politicians for accelarating his unlawful rule.Now he is God father of army mafia.
Guys, I dont think its fair with Bilal, Lets not judge a person for his fathers actions, he was supporting his father which any of us would do, isn’t it? its really easy to say things and point fingures to others, Are we not the same group who Welcomed his father? if we cna make mistakes anyone can and i dont think annoy someone is a way out of difficult times.
I dont like Gen. Musharraf’s actions as well, many of them. But is he really any worse than any of our political leaders? Were they democratic, really?
Geo aor GEO ko kholo yarr.
To justdoit :
Bravo dude … Pakistan Zindabad
Musharraf is the best that could have happened to Pakistan! Those that talk against him are half Pyscho. Salman Khan is a parrot of Imran Khan (the father of illigitimate Tyrian).
I’m glad someone kicked the hell out of these corrupt & bribe making lawyers. The Transparency calls them as “The most corrupt institution of Pakistan”. They will do anything for money! Judiciary, Police and Parliament are the most corrupt departments of PAK.
These SOLD-OUT cheap media men, who didnt even have proper shoes to wear, have been sold out to Indian agents and Israeli mission against Pak. Why doesn’t GEO ever report “Human right abuses in Kashmir”? Why GEO deosn’t criticize India treatment against Pakistan?
Musharraf allowed above 50 channels in Pak, and is also making a Media University for the decent & men of stature, in Islamabad. Hopefully, we’ll rid of cheapsters & low stoop people like shahid masood, kashif abbasi, etc.
These corrupt politicians under disguise of democracy come to our country and loot it & run away to their foreign palaces in UK, USA, Dubai, Saudia. When they can’t get their hands on the foreign reseves $17 billion… they start accusing Musharraf.
The sick aspiring ex-CJP Iftikhar wanted to become the president after having Musharraf removed in conspiracy with help of Hamid Gul andmoney of Nawaz Sharif. He was running a gangster movement like Altaf Hussein MQM. The lawyers were as Badmaash as Altaf. I’m glad their asses been kicked.
All those that curse Mussharaf… same to you!
Bilal,
You have definitely inherited your father’s vindictiveness, as evident from you bashing of Salman Ahmad. How about standing up now for your mother who has taken numerous beating from your drunk father?
But perhaps standing up for his mother is not in the blood of a grandson of a public dancer.
Hi,
I am an Indian living in Dubai & with many friends from Pakistan, I can say that I can empathise the pain they have to endure thinking about their family & nation. Please do not take it otherwise but I personally believe that Musharraf is a pragmatic man who did some real good for Pakistan when it was almost a bankrupt country but the sheer duration of his rule has led to a civil unrest among the pakistani community which is known to be brave & fearless. I think that he should have timely ensured the transition to democracy when things were fine & could have avoided the fate of Yahya khan. BUT as the condition in the country is now, I believe that he is the best man to curb the increasingly powerful tribal lords & to control the increasing influence of Taliban who sought a refuge in Pakistan when they were running for their lives & who have now turned their weapons against their very saviours & shelter-givers. The last thing pakistan needs is a democratic-government which is incapable of curbing extremism & taking strict actions against the terrorists.
That’s Just my view. I hope Pakistan returns to Normalcy as soon as possible.
Regards,
Deepak
well hERESWhat mush desirves!!!
MUSH SEEMS A SON OF A BUSH
BILAL A SON OF A WOLF!!
A WOLF WHO HAVE SUCKED BLOOD OF INOCEINT PEOPLE
BY PRESENTING PRISE HIKES SHOCKING THE PEOPLE
ALL HE DID IS THAT HE REMOVED THE CONCEPT OF CLASSES
NO MORE MEDIUM JUST LOWER LOWER!!CLASSES
TREATING PEOPLE LIKE THEY BE SLAVES!!
SOME ONE TELL THAT BASTARED THAT HEZ A SHAME!!
HEZ TRYING TO IMPROVE IMAGE OF US THE SLAVES
WHILE WE ALL ARE BURNING IN HIGH FLAMES!!
NO ONE KNOW WHEN HEZ GONA GO!!
ALL ONE CAN GUESS THAT HOWZ HE GONA GO!!!
CUZ HEZ TRAPED HE DONT KNOW !!!BUT ALL HE ND WE KNOW
IS “”GO MUSHARAF GO””” FOR SAKE OF god PLZ go
WELL MUSHARAF IS SUCH A SHAME THAT IF HE GETS IN OUR HAND WE ARE GONA PEEL HIS SKIN OOF,PAINT HIS FACE WITH BLACK PAINT BUT WE R NOT GONA GIVE HIM RIDE ON DONKEY CUZ HE WILL FEEL INSULT!!!NOT MUSH THE POOR DONKEY!HAHAHAHAHAHA
PEACE!! “”GO MUSHARAF GO””
Lovely and rightly written emails by Ms. Nighat and Salman,. We all should stand against evil Musharraf!
This seems to be a never ending debate on the person and performance of President Musharraf.Without getting into this, let me pose a question.Where do we stand as a nation?From what I gather from the discussion here is that we are a deeply divided and polarised society.It seems that we are with out any direction- a rudderless ship.A group of people bunched together by circumstances and given the name “pakistani” nation.We need to ask ourselves the question “who is responsible for this state of affairs?”I firmly believe that we are all responsible for this.Military or civilian leaders,good or bad, who have ruled Pakistan are from the society we live in.They are what we deserve.They are a reflection of what we all are.For God has made this amply clear.So unless we change there can be no change from the above.
How can we march forward as one nation?How can we change our destiny?Lets stop the blame game and work for a change from with in.Lets take responsibility for our own individual actions and stop criticising others.Lets promise to fulfill our obligations and do what is right.We don’t need a leader to guide us but we need to guide ourselves.Lets promise that we will tread the path of our conscience that is the best guide. And every one is blessed with (CONSCIENCE) by the Almighty.
Nargis
I would like to say something about your comments.
If you think Musharraf is better than your education and mental intelletual is questionable. How can he be better when he dismissed the whole of judiciary with an illegal step that he had no authoriy to take?
How can one be his own judge in a civilised society?
How can one kill innocent people in Karachi on May 28 and claim it to be show of power?
How can one slaughter the innocent women and children and still be a sane mind?
Howcome a man is fighting with his own nation, using army and airforce to bomb our own areas and still be a patriotic Pakistani?
He has been targetting media, torturing civil society members, lawyers community and detained those judges who refused to bow down to the dictator’s illegal orders.
Musharraf is illegaly occupying presidency and he has no right to be the head of the state. We Pakistanis will Insha Allah take him to justice and then you all supporters of the false hero would be able to see how brave he really is. Noone who kills innocent children and women can be a brave person at all.
Sad to see how mentally handicapped and unbalanced a person you appear Nargis.
hello musharfi,
please leave the country we dont want u any more,u suck… u r the most wanted criminal.
GO MUSHARAFI GO
GO 2 HELLLLLLLLL
asalam o alaikum to all ma pakistani,
plz stop this fighting in our own country.we have to solve our problems n this rubbish issues instead of using abusing lang n words to each other…n we should stop this bloody indians y they r posting their idiotic view..they want us to fight,they r happy,i think their is a big plans in their mind…we must stop them,we should solve our problems that our contry may become happy n peaceful…….n plz dont using abusive word if ur psting comments…
Musharaf is Big Bastard n Salman AHmed is bigest bastrad than him.. he made Bilal Musharaf his friend when he came to know that Bilal is Musharaf’s friend He start devlpoing friendship wid him He can lick anyone’s toe.. as Musharaf is lcking Bush’s toe
LONG LIVE MUSHARRAF! LONG LIVE PAKISTAN!
salman is truth musshaf is bad boss