New Images updated below: Considering all the commotion and fuss created by the government of Pakistan saying the called that Benazir Bhutto was not hit by the three bullets but instead she hit her head on some ‘lever’ of the sunroof. Last night I was contacted by a person via Orkut who had uploaded these images on his profile (now he has taken them off) he was offering to share his video to the extent that he gave his cell number in Islamabad, since his dial up did not permit transferring this heavy file.
On contacting him today he claimed that he was a PPP supporter and his party had instructed him not to share this with anyone. Later when a news reporter tried contacting him, his cell phone was switched off. I have two images to share with you which were initially taken off his Orkut Profile
The first image clearly shows Benazir Bhutto standing upright in the car through the sunroof waving to the crowd
The next image is just after the gun shots which were fired from the left but moments before the bomb blast. Here we see Benazir Bhutto not on the sunroof of the car most likely already shot and injured slumped inside
I sadly do not have the original video, though I tried very hard to get it. A source was in direct contact with the cameraman who actually shot the video and later uploaded the screen captures to show that he means serious business. He claimed to be in the security detail with Benazir Bhutto was riding on her car barely five minutes earlier but had to jump off as she exited the Liaquat Bagh venue. He was finding it difficult to upload the 56MB video file online so was ready to allow someone to help him get it readily available. Today morning he said that his cell phone was ringing off the hook with people clambering in the hunt for the video, hence forth he turned his cell phone off and had even removed the images from his Orkut profile.
NEW IMAGES UPLOADED BELOW
Today evening my source was been able to find the other two images that were initially uploaded to the cameraman’s profile,
The third image in this series shows the crowd and the cameraman suspects the white hooded fellow to be the actual bomber
This last image is taken 15 seconds later after the bomb blast showing total carnage
One thing is for sure that she was shot before the bomb blast hit her and the shockwave had nothing to do with it (as speculated by the Government representatives. It must be noted that the Government of Pakistan or some tom-dick-n-harry agency has in effect scared away the cameraman from sight and he is no longer in contact, but I am proud to say that the truth will always prevail
DISCLAIMER: The images are the actual images taken off his orkut profile and the explanation and the captions and text appearing on the images were all done by him.
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148 responses to “UPDATED: Mobile pictures – Benazir was defintely shot dead before the Blast”
Very impressive. Glad I stumbled across this.
greattt coverage!!!….go teeth maestro!
Images DON’T PROVE ANYTHING.
There is a possibility that she slipped/jumped/ducked down in an instinctive act as she heard the gun shot (which missed her) and subsequently hit the lever.
P.S. Dr. Alvi, please don’t act like the ever-hyper Geo News. Relax and try to establish reason before reporting.
where can v get the full video??
please some one upload it some where? youtube or rapidshare please
รโขรขโฌลพรลกรยฏรลกรขโฌหรหรยจรลกรยฏรลกรขโฌห – they might not prove the shot etc – but it does go to show that she was inside the car before the blast – as the Government of Pakistan spokesman said that her head hit the sunroof as the shock wave of the bomb hit her – these images basically just go to discredit Musharraf’s propaganda
LOL @ Geo reference once I make a dynasty like MSR or MIR then come calling until then its my own struggle to get the truth out – if you don’t like it ๐ what can I say — do come again
Thanks for the pics. But, based on them, I don’t see how one can conclude that “One thing is for sure that she was shot before the bomb blast hit her and the shockwave had nothing to do with it…”. It’s still inconclusive. No?
WoW.
I wonder why govt. is doing these childish things. Those PPP leaders who were present at the time of attack are also saying they clearly saw bullets wounds on BB.
Not to forget how quickly govt officials were washing the crime scene with water. Have you ever seen people washing the crime scene just after crime? What madness is this? This shows govt. is hiding something.
i dont why people are blind – but it proves two things :
1. She was inside the car before Bomb blast.
2. If we take Govt. response that she got hit by Lever of armour – just tell me how can it be fatal enough to blow a part of his skull as show by Govt.
Lets leave all points – just tell me how on the earth can you wipe off the crime seen within hours of incident ??
I just know this thing – we all are answerable to God – and there gonna be a justice day by Allah finally. And no doubt these terrorist & mush are both equal for us.
These pictures do certainly have some value but they cannot prove that she was shot before the blast.
The GOP is not to blame and they have even allowed PPP to exhume BB’s body and check it if they so desire.
Why do Pakistani people speculate so much? Looks like Internet is becoming too common too fast before common sense actually prevails among people.
A cleanup of crime scene took place within 2 hours, All explosive residue was washed with high pressure hoses and chemicals were used to clean up the mess.
Lets talk about these pictures technically. Following are 3 cases in front of us:-
1. Benazir was shot & killed by the bullets (direct hit)
2. Benazir was killed by the blast (its shrapnel etc.)
3. Benazir was killed by some other object (the Sunroof lever as the gov. claims)
From these pictures (& to some extent the video ISPR itself showed) the 3rd case is clearly dismissed as one can see her going down before the blast. Why she went down will decide either case 1 or 2.
Now suppose if she went down to save herself and hit the lever i see no reason why she should generate enough force to hit the lever so severely that it cause a death. She was in no way a weak woman physically. Nor she was hitting the lever by falling onto it or the lever hitting her from top. It hit her side ways & this makes us easy to assume the hit-force was obviously not fatal. Its also proved by the fact that a human needs to hit the lever not just with power but with speed too & being a women her reflex action (that would result in creation of speed) timing could be more than a man would have. This all calculation assumes (to support the theory that she hit lever and died) that the lever was in perfect position for her hitting it ( the maximum possible impact position). The possibility of all the above possibilities (assumptions) coming true is almost ZERO. There needs to be a perfect calculation for this to happen. If that has happened (which only an INDEPENDENT INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION could verify) then indeed she died due to lever & not the bullets.
Even if so, the claim by government is still INVALID. There is nothing as the shock-wave power forcing her to hit the lever.
So in the end Case 1 is quite strong. The calculations and the videos/photos show there is no reason why she could have saved herself from being hit from that close. And there were not 1 or 2 but 3 bullets aimed at her. The chances of such a trained guy not hitting target from that close range are also slim.
In fact i would go to the extent of saying that the conspiracy theory would be when someone say she cold survive from such a range with 3 tries (to save the real guys behind, i.e the tail of ZIA).
Some views by the experts who make sunroof could be valuable. We should ask them if its theoretically possible for someone to hit & die like this & under what conditions & whats the possibility of these conditions being met in PRACTICAL WORLD.
Hang on , hang on , hang on.
I just remembered one thing. I have never seen a crime scened cleaned (washed ) with water like this ever before. Even if one person is murdered its not done ( i haven’t seen it even on TV/movies etc.). But immediately after blast the scene was cleaned.
A BIG WHY ?
ok i think these foto shows nothing as every one have seen that shooter was very near to car so if these fotos r from that time it should show the shooter aswell rite? but u cant c anything
the shooter was not that far away as u have shown in these foto i will paste u the foto link and u can c wat i want to show every one. these fotos must have been taken b4 shooting not during thats for sure and how can u proof that which foto was take first and which was 2nd
i m aswell ppp supprt and these fotos shows nothing
plz now tell me where is the shooter on these fotos he has shooted from there u can c the govt vdo
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the shooter was standing near the car when he was shooting at her y we cant c him on these fotos and he was not that far as u r showing in these fotos when u c the vdo u will understand wat i mean
I am soory but how does this vidio shows that she is beem hit by bullets i am not taking any side just trying to understand
Logic says, you conclude from what is CLEAR and not from what is NOT-CLEAR. You are asking about the shooter who is,just like majority of faces NOT CLEAR. Its quite easy to see the blurness obscuring the identification and also the fact that guy at the back of the LR and the banners obstructing the important angle & place where one could spot the shooter PLUS the distance of the mobile from the heads is such that even if the pic was not blur the HEAD of the shooter would be so small for him being confidently identified from others PLUS there would be no way to see the small pistol from that distance.
The second pic is a bit nearer one so i think if it was not blur we could at least see a hand going up for a try.
Anyways, like i said we need to ask experts on if a sunroof hitting someone could result a death considering the conditions in this case.
awab:
what do you know about these x rays?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/28/bhuttos-skull-xray-blo_n_78599.html
check this out on Jang (a recent news – i think we are not that blind to ignore facts)
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/dec2007-daily/29-12-2007/up55.gif
There is something funny about the photographs. I would like a comment from someone who is expert at using Photoshop software
The video released by the government (at least the one that was shown on Sky) clearly shows a hand with a gun. He shoots 2 times.Even the recoil is visible in the video.
From that JANG link it seems only Naheed Khans knows the truth
Hey after 15 secs pic; there’s a man all up and walking :///
Is it possible in reality??
may be its not 15 secs after …!
This is really interesting as I guess this was reported here a lot earlier than it got to Dawn News.
You can watch the video of this on Dawn News http://www.dawnnews.tv/home/index.aspx and also on Geo News mms://stream.wmlivesvc.vitalstreamcdn.com/live_stream_geo_tv_geolive.
Dawn News has labelled it as “Exclusive” and on other channels its being shown as “Courtesy of Dawn News”.
Also to some of the people commenting here why they cannot see the shooter in these pictures, you need to see the video it can be seen that the man in these pictures has moved closer and there is clearly a gun in his hand pointed towards Benazir.
Pictures from TV grab of Dawn News, courtesy of Reuters http://enizdomain.blogspot.com/2007/12/pictures-of-benazirs-shooter.html
It is really an impressive work, govt and tom-dick-n-harry knows but avoiding the truth…. And now it is more clear that why they are distracting the Nation, because they are ready to accept any responsibilty. Thats why the area was washed away immediately after the highly misfortunate mishap.
Guys, this definitely a thiing that has been planned for along time, but why are these people making different stories. I am sure she was shot and this is just being covered up, Sheri Rehman did her ghussal and she said it was a bullet wound in the head not an injusry from being hit by the sunroof lever, its all wrong! The people behind this are the Chaudarys from Punjab, Shujaat and Pervez Elahi, Benazir was a threat to their rule and would have won the next election, a massive conspiracy to take out a charismatic and intelligent lady! What a sad day!
Again…. where is the video?
I don’t know why you claim that “Benazir was DEFINITELY shot dead before the blast”. To me the pics are not conclusive. All you can rule out is that she didn’t die because of shrapnel.
Just keep one thing in mind “Jaisi karni waisi bharni” BB wasn’t innocent, she was responsible for several extra judicial killings in Karachi when she was PM, even her brother got killed in her PM time. Whoever tried to break Pakistan, got the same results, e.g Indra Gandhi, her family gone, now Bhutto’s. Proud to be Pakistani.
This blog is really stupid blog. The pictures do not prove anything. Even the government has released a video showing the shooting so no one is doubting that shots were fired.
You sound a bit too excited over nothing. Pakistan is in trouble. Relax and stop messing around things further especially since you seem to be making up statements you cannot substantiate.
I can’t see a bloody thing, not even with the arrows and text, i only see blurry vague images.
So the supposed suicide bomber is the suspect because he’s wearing a turban? Interesting.
On the other side of the car (right) I see people turning their heads to the opposite side, why is that, is that from the echo from the bullet coming from the left?
ab pachtayay kya hoot jb chirdyaa chuk gai khait.
I think govt think that skull bones are very fragile just like any other Musharraf’s peer therefore even a lever could damage it ๐
Man one thing i don’t get ,conspiracy don’t blame me blame al qaeeda,dont blame me blame musharraf,shes dead shot or hit by a sunroof it is irrelevant in case of the suspects,what would the government get out of lying this kind of talk,sherry rehman is trying to point fingers again,oh all interesting blog
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hat said, the specifics are immaterial. Whether she died by gunshot, or by the blast, the fact remains that she was standing outside the sunroof and that she was killed by her assassins. Whether her death was caused by gunshot, shrapnel, or the force of the explosion has no logical bearing upon the actual blameworthiness of the government. It neither assists Musharraf nor does it reflect worse upon him. The shrapnel/bullet/sunroof debate (started by the somewhat pointless Sherry Rehman) is therefore pointless, and is not an appropriate topic for public discussion, not least because it has zero bearing on any one parties culpability. It should be determined upon by the investigating authorities, regardless of their inevitable shortcomings.
Exhortations to dig up Benazir’s body just a day after her burial to resolve such a ridiculous dispute are indicative of the madness that is now pervasive. The governments immediate declaration of willingness to accede to such demands is further indicative of their sheer desperation to acquit themselves of a charge that should never have been made against them in the first place.
Well, as a matter of fact, I wouldn’t have been surprised, if the government has said that Banazir got scared of the shooting noises, and eventually died of the ‘Noise Theory’. ๐
This is what GOP is good at, blunt lies…
I have read a related blog-post at: http://www.kidvai.com/windmills/2007/12/o-what-tangled-web-we-weave.html
when a person is hit by a bullet, the most prominent thing is the outburst of blood from the wound.. yet the people who accomapined her to the hospital had no blood stains on their clothes.
what differennce does it make whether she was killed by the bullet or the sunroof lever. her death was caused by an act of terrorism.
Well, it would be more “”if the original video was posted.
Anyways, you have done a good job by posting the pictures.
Hopefully, Pakistan will come to normality very soon.
My New Year wishes to you all from Nepal.
Happy blogging!
Will anyone answer the Questions:
1.Who will benefit from BB’s murder?
2. If she was killed accidently by the sunroof lever, why the govt’s emphasised the involovement of taliban behind her murder. Will it be used as an excuse to further bomb the taliban areas?
3. Why was it necessary to give a thorough wash to the scene of murder just after 2 hours even if some forensic evidences were already collected from the place?
4. Why the doctors backed out of the earlier statement and came forward to endorse the official versions about the nature of wounds?
5. Why the govt’s statements differs widely with the eye witnesses?
Here are the answers TARIQ
Answer 1.
The ISI & the clean shaved talibans aka Chaudhries will benefit most with a long list of other people. Qazi & MQM down in list.
Answer 2.
Our awaan is so naive, seriously. Aray bhai koi apnay bachun ko khatam kerta hai kia. lol Why would ISI finish the taliban off, how they will continue there terror drama then, Who will pay for their drinks,land plots and shashka’s, how will they ensure the DOLLARs coming into their pocket.
The government emphasized so that the FILE be CLOSED just like all other ISI sponsored activities are done, most notably the 12 MAY & OCT. 18 incident.
Its just that they hit the poor tribal people when USA shows its stick or the WHITE HOUSE, in its press release say some tough words.
Answer 3,4,5.
Aray bhai ye jaan ker boht khushi hui ki aap jaisey masuum log bhi hain dunia main.
The photos of shooter appeared in todays’s paper in which he was aiming to BB
Benazir bhutto didnt get hit by the sunroof lever she got shot on the head and you can see clearly on the pictures and the footage they are showing and BB fell down before the blast.
BB death was not caoused by act of terrisom it is mushraf and kaff leage (killer leage)hopefully he will go and BHUTTO name will cme to fame!!!
Thanks for apreading the truth around.
Pictures showing Musharrafs last punch is being executed by chowdaries of punjab
IF YOU OBSERVE PIC PUBLISHED BY KABRIAN AND THEN COMPARE WITH THESE PICS AND ALSO MOVIE CLIP IN UTUBE..I CONCLUDE SURE 3 GUN SHOTS AND THE SUSPECTED PERSON IS NOT THE ONE AS MENTION IT SHOULD BE THE GUY INFRONT OF HIM…WITH BLACK GLASSES AND BLACK WASCOAT…PIC CONSEQUANCE SHOWS HE IS MORE LIKLY TO BE A KILLER.
no amount of words can fill the hollow left by benazir bhutto in the hearts of all who loved her. may Allah bless her and all the people who have died untimely deaths in all the bomb blasts all over pakistan
no amount of words can fill the hollow left by benazir bhutto in the hearts of all who loved her. may Allah bless her and all the people who have died untimely deaths in all the bomb blasts all over pakistan and May He grant them a special corner in heaven
I too question the official version of events but I have to remain sceptical about these photos. As you can see the second pic shows the entire quicktime media player taken by screen capture, but the key one showing that Bhutto was not standing through the LR hatch does not. The assumption being made by those that provided the photo is that this one without her was taken after the shooting began. It would be easier to tell this if we have the time depicted on the media player screen capture, but we do not.
We see the shooter and Bhutto at 1:28. But without her we cannot know. It could have been before the shooting, just prior to her emerging through the hatch.
It is curious why the key photo does not have the time shown and we should acknowledge it.
So, ultimately until we see the entire video from start to finish or get to see screenshots with the entire media player, this really doesn’t prove anything I’m afraid.
Quick correction: meant to say that at 1:28 Bhutto is not in the hatch, NOT that they were both in that frame as my initial post says. The shooting could have happened AFTER. We see a frame said to be 15 seconds after the bomb at 2:07.
If the 15 seconds time is correct (it very well might not be), this would give a total time of 24 seconds between the empty hatch (just before she emerges???) and the bomb blast.
According to Bhutto aides in the vehicle, the bomb blew just after she fell back through the hatch, which would be just about the time – if we accept the claims these photos make – of the frame 1:28 (the empty hatch). This means the supposed 15 seconds after the explosion would actually be 39 seconds after the bomb.
We need to see the entire video I’m afraid.