In the past few weeks there has been a buzz spreading around Pakistan’s digital world talking about the recent fame surrounding the TV show personality Zaid Hamid who conducts a show on TV One called Brasstacks. It should be mentioned that brasstacks is reportedly a paid-for show which has started airing barely a few months back and has developed a very strong following amongst the masses. Admittedly Zaid Hamid is quite eloquent in his show and is well versed in his explaining his innumerable concepts of ranging from economic terrorism by the Zionists to other such issues which are poised at him even Islamic issues
I too have been guilty of occasionally catching a glimpse of his show and did even carry his five part series on Economic Terrorism. All seemed well until a close associate contacted me via facebook sharing his concerns about Zaid Zaman Hamid and revealed his suspicious association with Yousuf Ali, a self proclaimed prophet from Lahore in the 1990’s. Zaid Zaman was purportedly the right hand man of Yousuf Ali and was fondly referred to as his Hazrat Ali. Zaid Zaman was instrumental in spreading the message of prophecy far across Pakistan, to develop a large cult like following in Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad mostly due to Zaid Zaman’s excellent communication skills.
Yousuf Ali had been preaching his divine revelation to his followers for quite many years when finally a handful defected and braved to testify against him in the Lahore High Court which ultimately gave Yousuf Ali, a death sentence on charges of Blasphemy. Yousuf Ali was then confined to Kot Lakhpath jail and in 2001 was shot dead by a fellow prisoner. Throughout the legal proceedings one witness after another testified to the fact that Zaid Zaman was a key figure in the promotion of Yousuf Ali’s Kazzab movement. I have been told that there even does exists an analog video of Zaid Zaman standing beside Yousuf Ali while he addressed his followers in Lahore. Somehow the fact that Zaid Zaman was a key figure in this movement is generally a foregone conclusion, as there are one too many eye witnesses and more importantly numerous had testified the fact which may even be present in the records of Lahore High Court, including Zaid Zaman’s testimony to the honorable judge, all records are securely preserved in the archives of Tahaffuz-e-Khatm-e-Nabuwwat in Karachi.
The Zaid Zaman Hamid storm actually started with the email from Naufil Shahrukh, a close friend whom I have known since 1990, the email at first in the form of a private message on Facebook but soon propagated online and published on Dictatorship Watch, verbatim
If you guys remember the Pakistan false prophet, Yousuf Ali, who was arrested and sentenced to death by the Lahore High Court and then murdered in Kot Lakhpat jail by a fellow prisoner – this guy Zaid Hamid was known as Zaid Zaman at that time and was the Khalifah of that Kazzab. Zaid is still leading that cult which belongs to the Firqah Batinyah of Sufism and they have a different aqeedah altogether which they only profess within their inner core. Many of my personal friends fell prey to his charisma in the 1990s, some of them reverted back to Hidayah and were instrumental in filing a case against Yusuf Ali which ultimately lead to his death sentence and the cult members dispersed for a few years.
The time line of events that he narrates in his letter are erringly accurate and when Naufil mentioned to me later pointing out the common friends who fell prey to this cult one does weigh in a sigh of relief to have been spared of the poison. The most logical reason as to why our neighborhood was penetrated to such an extent can be attributed to the fact that Zaid Hamid hailed from our locality. Off the friends who willingly embraced Yousuf Ali’s prophecy was Ryzwan Tayyab who very soon featured himself as a militant leader of the movement and after the collapse of this movement has retreated into a cocoon of severe depression irreparably damaging his family around him. Ryzwan was also involved in actually issuing death threats to the few journalists who were critically investigating Yousuf Ali back in those days.
The resurfacing of Zaid Hamid after 15 years of hibernation is interesting, he catapults himself in 2006 as a security threat analyst frequently publishing PDF based Pakistan threat reports for a subscription fee of Rs. 25,000 but within a span of a two years mustered up enough finances to launch a self sponsored TV show which started transmission in the early months of 2008, suspiciously timed around the fall of the Pervaiz Musharraf’s regime. The sudden shot to fame on TV is being compared to the launch of Dr. Shahid Masood’s End of Time series, which too was based on an eloquent anchor with one too many theories to present.
Off the numerous people stepping forth to expose Zaid Hamid the must read narration is of a two year email correspondence between Zaid Hamid and Abidullah Jan. It gives an insight onto Zaid Zaman when he first started sharing his BrassTacks Security reports, slowly moving into becoming a much sought after personality. What was interesting to read was when in the early months of 2007 Zaid Zaman approached Abidullah Jan struggling to stay afloat and requested Abid to help promote his security reports to a wider audience “I am in need of some clients to stay afloat as I am being squeezed by the government’s men for being too open and ruthless”. Zaid Hamid a few months later, after the 3rd Nov Martial Law appeared on a couple of pro-Musharraf TV shows on PTV with Ahmed Qureshi. Then suddenly out of the blue he is able to muster up enough finances to launch a self sponsored show on TV One. Watching a person flutter from being financially strapped and haunted by ‘government’s men’ to appearing on a pro-Musharraf show, then having catapulting into his own show seems all too suspiciously the work of some ‘hidden hands‘
If coincidence was anything to go by, I also noted that around this time emerged Zaid Hamid’s articles on a very staunch pro-Musharraf proponent Ahmed Quraishi who continues to wage an online battle with the Anti-Musharraf sect. When today I inquisitively launched a witch hunt for Zaid Hamid on the website I was surprised to see that quite a few of Zaid Hamid’s editorials were missing for example the January 29th article which should have led to the page has been removed from the website sometime after September 5th 2008 [as indicated by the Google Cache] and this is not the only article missing of the series, I wonder why the sudden cover up after September 5th by Ahmed Quraishi.
The only acknowledgment of any link with Yousuf Ali came from an email shared with me privately where Zaid Hamid Alhamdolillah, i have nothing to do with Yousuf or his beliefs or any other people like him.
Lest I be charged of taking this message out of context I share with you the entire section of the email so people may understand his response fully
In the last 30 years of my life, In search of truth and to study this world and its ideologies, Allah took me to many places and I met many people. I have traveled with Iranian revolution, have faught in Afghan Jihad, have gone out with Tablighi Jmaat, spent time with Jamaat Islami, have met hundreds of people including Dr. Israr, Ahmad deedat, Yusuf Islam, Anne Marrie schimmel and so on and so forth. Have also been with sufi groups in Pakistan, Turkey, Madina and Cyprus. I have also seen the western society, its civilization from a close range. Whatever I speak and do today, is the result of these experiences in life but with the mercy of Allah, He protected his humble slaves and keeps them in His infinite mercy and guidance. He showed me the world and people, but kept me away from their harm and made me benefit from any khair they had.
I also met and studied many objectionable people who were controversial but in the end Allah kept me away from them. It was all learning experiences. Alhamdolillah, i have nothing to do with Yusuf or his beliefs or any other people like him
Though he puts forth a convincing argument but it seems yet again that he refuses to acknowledge his association with Yousuf Ali to categorically say that he has “nothing to do with Yousuf or his beliefs” is this admittance of his association or denial of the fact?
Proponents of Zaid Hamid continue to plead his innocence even today as Pakistan First blog, which has been previously labeled to have a strong pro-Musharraf tilt, shared an article by Asif Shiraz who writes Zaid Hamid: As I knew him
I first met Zaid hamid at the youthful age of 17, when the emotions were high, and the search for truth pristine and innocent. A friend had told me about Zaid Hamid, and I was anxious to meet him: I was not disappointed. Our first meeting was a blast. I enjoyed Zaid sahib’s charismatic talk on many different issues, especially his passion about Islam and his knowledge on a diverse set of subjects. Although it’s been many years now, I still remember highlights of that conversation: Quotations from Iqbal, recollection of glorious events from the lives of the Sahaba, and discussion of the relevance of having truth faith “Yaqin”. Not once on that day, nor ever afterwards in these fifteen years, have I ever heard anything from Zaid Hamid which is incongruent to ideas present in mainstream religious teachings of Ahl-e-Sunnah wal-jamaat. No mention of any “cult ideology”, and no reference to anyone claiming “prophethood” whatsoever. He is a firm believer in Khatme-e-Nabuwat and the finality of Prophet Muhammad(sm). In fact, Zaid Hamid is the only person whom I have met, who lives in a rented home, but still spends a handsome chunk of his earnings every year to pay a visit to the blessed cities of Hijaz-e-Muqaddas. It is nothing other than Zaid Hamid’s love and devotion to the Prophet(sm) that he has visited Masjid-e-Nabwi more than 10 times. After the first initial meeting, I have been in touch with Zaid Hamid off and on for many years, until I moved to Chaklala Scheme III becoming his neighbor and an even closer friend.
Asif Shiraz does admit in his article that he is now a neighbor of Zaid Hamid but surprisingly fails to disclose that he is an employee of BrassTacks as proclaimed by him in this Facebook message (Screen capture) whilst a little investigation also sheds some light that Mr. Asif Shiraz incidentally happens to be the Administrative domain contact for Zaid Hamid’s website Brasstacks.biz (screen capture)
It is sadly Asif Shiraz’s attempt to stand up for his boss only goes to discredit Zaid Zaman. To analyze Zaid Hamid’s Brasstacks TV show one should read the two articles published in The News by Fasi Zaka September 18th The Pakistan Report and on 25th September published a follow up titled Hate Speech – II
My concern here remains is that Zaid Zaman is appearing on public TV and continues to eloquently preach his philosophy to the public at large, had if this individual remained as private entity, then we would have had no right to question his beliefs, but once he dons the public forum, then I feel it is the right of the people to know the facts. Generally as a free society we cannot stop him from sharing his opinion with the public at large but it is our right to question his logic and any underlying issues that may tarnish his analysis as he chooses to present to the public, and in the same pretext its important to then question his association with the self proclaimed prophet a notion strictly prohibited in the religion of Islam.
The mystery surrounding this controversy seemingly gets worse with every passing day, could it be a mere propaganda, could it be his attempt to cover up his past, or does he simply choose ignore and hopefully forget, but more importantly does he still believe in the prophecy, so many questions, all shall remain a mystery until he alone chooses to address the propaganda and clarify his position once in for all
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667 responses to “Who is Zaid Zaman Hamid? Brasstacks or Yousuf Kazzab Prophecy?”
Silence,
yeah I think she (Gov State Bank of Pakistan) is refering to Zardari indirectly to deposity the Loot he has saved in the banks of London, Dubai, Belgium and US.
Same goes for Nawaz, Peer sahib, Mr Diesel and others..
I wondered how banks in Pakistan could return a hefty 13-14% return on the deposits….Guess not any more.
Why shud i belive that emails in the link are original?????
They can be fake…. If genious like zaid hamid is fake then why not Teeth Maesteroo
There is no such thing like “brasstacks gold coins” in the market.
You might be interested in watching Paul Grignon’s 47-minute animated presentation of “Money as Debt”. It is in 5 parts starting here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8
Why would a channel allow a controversial personality like him to host a show in the first place?
He is not controversial at all.. some people are desperately working on an agenda to portray him as controversial… just listen and read what msg he is trying to convey and judge by yourself who is enemy of the state.. Zaid Hamid or people who are trying to convince that he is a fraud?
They are saying this — the reality of Money and modern Zionist financing system !! This is what Mr. Zaid Hamid is trying to tell us… This is a must watch….
First 15 minutes will blow you away…
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912
Faiza: I am not a believer in conspiracies – I don’t personally know Zaid Hamid as most of the people here & i don’t know the people alleging he has a dubious background.
So for any objective person there is no way to tell who is telling the truth.
We can, however, comment on the ‘sermons’ that he gives on his TV shows. I’ve watched a few & most of his analysis of the economic history is overly simplistic & stupid to say the least.
Most people don’t have the time or the inclination to verify what Zaid Hamid is saying so they believe him. He comes across as very sincere & he might just as well be but that does not mean that he is right.
@Hammad Khan
Zeitgeist is certainly a very interesting video to watch.
ANother good one is “America: From Freedom to Fascism”
@Faiza
People are not “desperately working on an agenda to portray him as controversial”. They are only trying to expose the truth about him. Of cousrse you will not agree but the fact is that nothing he is saying is new. What is new is the way he twists facts and the spin he gives them. (Illuminati, Bildenberg Group, Zionist Banking, etc. material has been around a LONG time — even before you were probably born. Just because you are not aware of them is no cause to call us “conspirators” 🙂 )
@note…
very well said…i second ur perspective.
Faiza: Dear, now when you are aware of all the “Big Things” please let me know ur action plan. I hope you will not take this stuff as just Information but will certainly do something practical. Please let me know so that i can follow u & eventualy find a path to success.
Az’zaam!!!
i dont know who can call this guy a security expert, he is just a mediocre and controlled spin.
saw his show related to muslim conquerers and the way he called hindus gave me full ida what kind of person he is.
just another crap like shahid masood.
@Az’zaam Thanks for correction
@guyyasir
for your information AlhamduliALLAH i am a sunni muslim.it is very sensitive issue. a hours of debates is required to settle said issue. May be u like him due to your family relation with Dr. Sb. but i am not much impressed with Dr. Israr.
Assalam – o -Alaikum to All…
Interesting Thoughts and Events Quoted by these All Brothers!!!
What Being said is true..and i being not on anyone’s Side ..a Student of Truth Perhaps can Figure it out that Mr.Zaid Hamid Speaks of Truth..that is for sure..i Have read the Protocols and many Zionisnt Research Material way b4 they appeared on TV and was Noticeable.Including Henry Ford Books and Much more.
The Point is i Found the conclusions and Research of Mr.Zaid Sahab to be Upto the MArk..its true and Truth Shall Prevail. What he thinks or Intend to think is not With U or ME….its With ALLAH Alone..so lets not Just judge Hearts of People trying to do some good for this Falling and Failing State and nation.
its time to be together rather then Pointing at each other…if you have known him for some time as u said 20 Years….Where were u when all this hapenned here in Pakistan…why didnt u try to Educate our uneducated Masses.
Esp on Zionists and Evil Doers.
Just A note: during 90’s when i was reading and researching on Protocols and their Context,,i tried to share it with my friends and others of My findings and Nearly at 99% of the time all Were like …Whats this Crap Leave it aside….Jews and Zionists will never do such things and alabla……
BUT now they have changed thier views and minds ..bundles of thanks to Zaid and not so Thanks to the Situation of our Country.
Their Mission : TO DESTABALIZE PAKISTAN AND MUSLIM UMMAH AND HEAD TO MEKKAH AND MEDINAH.
OUR MISSION : STOP THIER MISSION / BY HANGING ON TO ALLAH’s ROPE(QURAN).and expect some Forces(SPIRITUAL) to Help the Opressed Muslims.
MAy Allah give us strength to Identify the Truth and Work for PEACE not WAR
@ Naif: This is exactly the kind of thinking & beliefs that have led us to where we are today as Muslims & Pakistani’s as a nation. Blame everything on Jewish/Zionist & in our case Hindu conspiracies.
When will we wake up & realize that the fault lies with us not them. Nobody can make us do anything that we ourselves do not want to do.
Until we realize that we have to reform ourselves & our societies instead of heaping all blame on some unbelievable conspiracy theories our condition as a nation will never improve.
The conspiracy theories about Zionists/Jews are not new & actually not the creation of Muslims either. All of these were started by the Christians – Muslims were a little late to catch up with these theories, probably only in the last century. Otherwise Jews had been living peacefully under Muslim Caliphates while they were being prosecuted in Europe.
Zaid Hamid will have us believe that the Jews are so powerful that they are pulling the strings of everything that is going on in this world but still they could not stop Hitler from wiping out half of their population during WW-2. And he also wants us to believe they are running the American State but instead of benefiting from the security that America enjoys they have chosen for themselves a land in the middle of the most hostile region in the world that they can find – surrounded on all sides with hostile Arab countries who are after their very survival. Right! Seem like really powerful people.
I am sure half the people here don’t even know what the Zionist movement is? When did it start? Which country? Who were the founders? What were their backgrounds & their aims? How did it end up in the creation of the State of Israel? But still they will go on pedaling these conspiracy theories.
All i can say is may Gaad give us the Strent to first realize & then overcome our shortcomings as a nation.
My E mail to Mr. Zaid Hamid:
Dear Mr. Zaid Hamid,
There are several stories running in electronic media about your controversial TV program and your association with Yousaf Kazab. I had never been able to like your your program which targeted the Banking system in Pakistan. I also have strong reservations about the gold as an alternate of paper money. These differences were purely based on economic view point until the stories about your past and your alleged relations with foreign agencies surfaced in electronic media.
I have gone through your e mail response posted on mine and various other blogs, which is not satisfactory enough. For sake of clarity I would appreciate if you can give your version on following allegations against you, I would be happy to incorporate your version for following questions:
1. Were you associated with Yousaf Kazab and is it true that he named you as equal to Hazrat Ali (his caliph)? How long you did stayed with him and did you defended him before a court of law or helped in his case?
2. It is true that you were present beside Yousaf Kazab, while he was delivering peach in Lahore and is there a video of that incident?
3. Have you ever proposed issuance of “Brasstacks gold coins’ (on one side Brasstack logo and other side 1 dinar) and directed your staff/followers to convince people to convert their money in to gold?
4. What would happen to Banking System in Pakistan if people pull out their money from banks and convert their money in to gold?
5.What will be effect on economy of any such move as entire agricultural and industrial sector is dependent on borrowing from banks?
6. What is your view about a person who gathers a dozen virgin girls and declares them all as his wives at a same time?
7. What is source of funds for your campaign?
8. Were you a supporter of Pervez Musharraff and do you think that he was working against interests of Pakistan?
Your response would be incorporated at verbatim on and would help to clarify the issue.
Best Regards;
Moderator,
Islamabad Observer.
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Response by Mr. Zaid Hamid:
My Dear Modrator,
aa. Jazak Allah for your mail. Short answer is please visit us and lets talk. Each and everything have written or you have been told is shameless slandering.
Alhamdolillah, all my life has been spent keeping my self under tests and trials of fire, sword and blood for the sake of this deen and in love of Rasul Allah. My prayers, sacrifices, my life and death remains for Allah and His Prophet (saw). My izzat, life, parents, property, family and even good deeds are sacrificed on Rasul Allah. I am not mad to follow false prophets after Sayyadna Rasul Allah (saw).
Those with noor can see the rehma, baraka and khair from Allah and love of Rasul Allah in the life and mission of this humble faqeer. Hasbu nallah Naimul Wakeel, Naimul Maula wa naimun Naseer.
Curse of Allah, angels and momineen be on those liars who claim to be “prophets” after Sayyadna Khatim un Nabiyyeen Muhemmed Rasul Allah (saw). Also cursed and Rajeem are those who follow such liar “prophets” and also cursed are those who accuse innocent Muslims of following such false prophets. There will be no prophet after our beloved Sayyadna, Maulana, Muhemmed Rasul Allah, Rehmat ul lil Aalimeen (saw). May Allah keep us in His serene and blessed noor and Rehma in dunya and Akhira.
May Allah be my witness in both the worlds and forgive our errors, mistakes and sins and have mercy on Ummat e Sayyadna Rasul Allah (saw). Indeed Allah is the best of Protector and most merciful on His slaves.
They have accused me of gravest of sins, called me a Kafir and Murtid, follower of false prophets, running cults, doing khiyanat in wealth of orphans and widows, working for secret services against the State, and sponsoring my own program on News1 through secret funding of dubious agencies. Also, being a fraud by pretending to be a doctor or Professor !
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6156&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Do I need to respond to these shameless slandering initiated by this site ??
There are four names we see: None of them know me despite their claims.
Abid Ullah Jan — He has never met me in life.
Tahir (reporter) He too has never met me in life.
N. Shahrukh, (who does not expose his name or address) whom I sure I have never met in life or at least never in last 17 years since I left Karachi.
Faiyyaz Alam, whom I am also sure have never met in life or at least never in the last 17 years.
How on earth can they claim to know me ????? What are their motives, intentions and backers to try to stop our mission for Pakistan’s national security ???
What evidence they have provided? What they present as evidence is only fabricated allegation of Kufr and Khiyanat not proof !!! Each and every allegation must be backed by proof. Quran, Sunnat, Sharia, law and truth demands it. They respond allegation with more allegation. Have they asked me and seeked clarification before making their Bohtan ?? Are they willing to come and confront me face to face with proof on all bohtans ???
I wanted to avoid a global e-mailing match as this is what they want to draw us into to distract us from our real mission for Pakistan and Ummah. Everyone is most welcome to visit us in our office in Pindi and seek any further clarification if required. I will not defend myself any further. Even if you clarify our position, please maintain dignity and honor at all times and don’t make a public shouting match.
We don’t need to scoop to lower levels to defend ourselves and this Deen.
We will inshallah, not be distracted and continue our mission of protecting Pakistan against all threats, internal and external.
Wassalam and duago
Zaid Hamid
@silence
Dear, now this is wat he is doing. A same email response to every query regarding the issue. What is personally think & wat ZZH is demanding is these 4 ppl (as mentioned by him in the email) should go & meet him & after concluding the matter should do a combined press conference & move forward. Another option is to call these 4 guys on the TV show along with ZZH & wrap the matter.
What you guys say?
Az’zaam!!!
Azzam;
I agree with you, may be the matter is ‘settled’ behind closed doors, every one is satisfied and ‘mo problem’.
Another Imam emerges clean and another sect….
But I doubt, this ins not 1970…people are much more aware and want specific answers. Any settlement behind closed doors wont work.
What I think is ‘force’ for which he is working will dump him as he is exposed. But who knows…this is our Pakistan.
Touseef, I think you have answered your own question:
Why would a channel allow a controversial personality like him to host a show in the first place?
Don't you think millions of people who previously hadn't heard of this guy or didn't watch his show will now want to tune in to listen to what he has to say?
TV channels just love controversies & controversial personalities – they are on the lookout for these kinds of people
There are a lot of serious economists, intellectuals and political activists in the west that have similar opinions as this guy concerning the global economy and the international banking system, so regardless of his particular past or his positions as a Muslim activist, what he is promoting is not all that new. I totally agree with some of the opinions expressed here concerning the value of gold and paper money and I do not agree with some other positions regarding maintaining the present disfunctional “Banking System” of fractional reserve that has created a lot of money purely out of debt. I freely admit that I am not smart enough to suggest any thing but just expressing what I understand not to be right!
@KarimG
“There are a lot of serious economists, intellectuals and political activists in the west that have similar opinions as this guy concerning the global economy and the international banking system”
No one is doubting that. Like I said before it is the spin and twisting of facts and the intermingled outright lies that I have a problem with. And like I said before, I am sure we all agree with what most of what a Christian priest tells us — it’s the little differences that make all the difference in the world. One has to know where the guy is coming from to see where he is going. Let me give you another example: If the exact same things were being taught by a Tablighi Jama’at fella, I guarantee you the solution he will offer is “Join the Tablighi Jama’at and all will be well!” I hope you understand what I am trying to say.
To clarify, let’s say I go to a doctor. What I don’t know is that he get’s paid by the pharma company for every prescription he writes for a particular drug (Believe me this does happen all over the world). He writes the same one in my prescription. Is he doing it because it really will help me or is he doing it only for his financial benefit (though it could be harming me). Am I wrong to question the doctor?
@Silence
Just a quick point. What is interesting is that in each of his email responses he says:
“Abid Ullah Jan — He has never met me in life.”
Abid Ullah Jan does NOT claim to have met him from what I gather and mentioned only the email exchange, right? Zaid does not say:
“Abid Ullah Jan — I never had an email exchange with him in my life.”
the controversy has few lessons for us. most of the people blindly follow or blind reject without analysing the truth or the facts presented infron of them and the recent ZZ example is similar where people started to believe a person who was speaking 90% truth (specially if you see the copy paste stuff of Economic Terrorism Series though an impressive one) with mixture of original falsehood they wanted to spread specially to protect Musharraf and defend his evil policies (like Lal Masjid, actions against judiciary and war against humanity/Islam/Pakistan).
All we need is the analytical approach as a nation.
(Dr Awwab: find some time and send an email)
I have this person’s videos, he seemed to be a patriotic but we should think before trusting anybody’s talk
it doesn’t look like what it is infect.
Wait and see! We shouldn’t loose patience. What ever he is, will soon emerge and his face will be uncovered. But, I personally believe that we Pakistani people are fond of spilling dirt on others faces because people like Zaid Hamid are spreading the bitter truth, we are actually afraid of Islam because his ideology will snatch our freedom (I think I delivered to those who understand). We should listen and learn from even a wall, let alone a Mujahid. He is such an eye opener, am I right? Are we jealous? Are we hypocrites? You must have heard the joke which tells about the big pit in hell, without any DAROGHA!!!??? I think whatever he is saying is true, please refer to these books for guidance; TEESRI JANG-E-AZEEM AUR DAJJAL by MAULANA ASIM UMER publisher AL-GHAZI WELFARE TRUST, plus this movie will also help http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Oh all you so called ‘economists’ supporting about paper currency.
All you brains are forgetting one thing, by having gold as a medium of exchange, you put an end to INFLATION! THAT IS THE FREAKING BASIC ECONOMIC PROBLEM! ENDING EVER INCREASING INFLATION! By using gold, you put an end to creation of money by thin air from a printing press! How can you do that once gold is used as a medium of exchange in an economy? GOLD MAKES ECONOMY STABLE SINCE IT CANNOT BE PRINTED LIKE FAKE PAPER MONEY! No more fake paper money, no more interests, no more fractional reserve banking, no more inflation, stable and sound economcy! All corrupt captalists hate this.
STOP PREACHING PROPAGANDA! NONE OF YOU ARE ECONOMISTS! YOU ARE UNEDUCATED AND PROPAGATING FALSE IDEAS AND BASHING SOMEONE ON PERSONAL BASIS – NOT BECAUSE OF ANY ARGUMENT! Oh and please have courage to post this comment.
@Someone
You say:
“INFLATION! THAT IS THE FREAKING BASIC ECONOMIC PROBLEM!”
followed by:
“NONE OF YOU ARE ECONOMISTS!”
I think it’s fair to ask if you yourself are an economist? Also keep in mind being an economist doesn’t mean one will agree with “gold makes economy stable.” There are more than one schools of thought on that one and an overwhelming majority of economists support the “paper money economy”. They might be wrong but that is what they believe to be true.
“STOP PREACHING PROPAGANDA! NONE OF YOU ARE ECONOMISTS! YOU ARE UNEDUCATED AND PROPAGATING FALSE IDEAS AND BASHING SOMEONE ON PERSONAL BASIS – NOT BECAUSE OF ANY ARGUMENT!”
Using ALL BOLD TYPE is supposed to give weight to your jibberish?
I think you have not read the comments posted above or at least completely failed to comprehend them, oh educated one 🙂 I will even make the BOLD claim that you have not only understood the article posted above, you haven’t even bothered reading it completely.
I don’t think any of us know ZZH personally so your “bashing” argument is worthless. And it is also interesting you accuse those who are asking ZZH to stop propagating propaganda as those propagating propaganda without even bothering to understand what they are saying. Take for example the video link to Zeitgeist @Hammad Khan posted and my mention of the documentary “America: From Freedom to Fascism”. Had you bothered to watch them, you’d realize they BOTH FULLY SUPPORT the gold standard argument and expose the fake money / Zionist money cartel. They only do it in a much more convincing way than mere rhetoric and without adding any spin. Ah but you are too lazy for that, right? You’d rather just holler and scream and accept any false prophet ’cause MOST of what he says is right. 🙂
@Someone
Just wanted to add one thing:
Are you aware that some people consider “Back to the gold standard” argument as a zionist conspiracy as well? The argument goes something like “Who owns most of the gold and gold mines?” The fact certainly is it’s the zionists. So what happens when we move to the gold standard? The gold certainly goes up in value. So who profits?
Things are not that simple now, are they Mr. Economist? 🙂 🙂 🙂
for Altaf
My dear Brother….thanks for the post first of all.
1.it is our fault at first Since we deviated from our True Religious Values.BUT ..YEs it is true the Majority of the Blame do rest with these Jews/Zionists/Freemasons/neo-Cons..watever u call them with Just ONE OBJECTIVE : Enslave all human kind and take over the resources of the world(ESP ESP FROM MUSLIMS).
2.Secondly the Question Are Jews Powerful Enough : YES They are What COntrols us By Media(controlled by B Nai Brothers over all the world).the inject what they need to and stop what needed not to be told / Agencies,Secret Brotherhoods Etc.
Refute it all : But can u refute ALLAh Word : when it is clearly pointed out in our Holy Book(THE ONLY LEFT AUTHENTIC SOURCE OF TRUTH) when it is said that “They(JEws) can never be your friends”
My dear Brother the point is just realize the THREAT and where it is Coming From//Will makes thing alot easy rather then pointing out to each other…Debate is GOod If soemthing is CONCLUDED but not DISCORD AND MISINFORMATION
P.S : Negative forces have started thier Work Against ZAid HAmid…which was due to come since he is following the Right PAth….i hope and PRay for a BEacon of Light Since our NAtion Requires it to a Great Extent…in order to be UNited as Muslims not as Dogs of Different Breed and Classes.
let us be All ONE …AS MUHAMMAD(PBUH) in his last Sermon pointed out : ‘ONE IS ONLY BETTER THEN OTHER ON HIS ACTS NOT FROM WHERE HE BELONGS”
LET USPUT OUR ACTS RIGHT…..DIVERT ALL ENERGIES TOWARDS READING QURAN IN ITS OWN LANGUAGE AND BE ONE>>.B$ ALLAH Takes away the LIGHT…as WORDS of QURABN WILL BE TAKEN UP B$ THE DOOMS DAY….READ IT AS TIME IS SHORT!!!!!
Wassalam
Scores of Pakistani and non-Pakistani writers/TV guests/speakers are allowed to speak against Pakistan on most of our television networks. Some of them ridicule Pakistan’s Independence, others work their minds out just to prove that Pakistanis have no future and do their best to demoralize our people. The Israelis – living in a state that is truly doomed in a sea of hostility – are the most optimistic and forward-looking people you will find anywhere. Ours is a great nation, a continuing story of achievement that goes back a millennium and beyond, and a people who survived history’s toughest challenges, and who are capable of emerging as a dynamic nation in the 21st century. And yet some of the ‘defeatists’ in our midst are celebrated and given space in our newspapers, TV screens, and radio channels. But God forbid if one of us comes forward with a strong nationalist message of hope and pride in our nation. I am referring here to Zaid Hamid, a Pakistani nationalist and a good Muslim. He hosts the show BRASSTACKS on TVNewsOne about internal and external threats to Pakistan. All that the man did was raise the voice of Pakistan and spread the message of optimism, strength and pride in who we are. Along with this he has a strong sense of religion and faith. He is a believer. But instead of appreciating the work he is doing for Pakistan, a minority of ill-intentioned people among the Pakistani elite has unleashed a campaign of disinformation against Zaid Hamid. I suspect they are doing this because they hate his strong religious views. These misguided Pakistanis forget that Zaid Hamid’s religious views are open to debate. You may or may not accept them. But can you disagree with his vast body of work in defense of Pakistan and to enlighten the Pakistanis about their strengths, weaknesses, and the strategic situation we find ourselves in?
Please check this page of Zaid Hamid’s website:
http://brasstacks.coolpage.biz/rel-med.htm
Scroll down to where he give access to the movie: Zeitgeist
The real movie has three parts and debunks three ‘myths’.
1) the myth of Jesus Christ/Hazrat Issa
2) myth of 9/11
3) the myth of the financial structure being on good foundations
Zaid Hamid lies to everyone by labelling the second myth as ‘part 1’, the third myth as ‘part 2’ and conveniently erasing the first 40 minutes of the movie. The first 40 minutes are deliberately erased so that Zaid Hamid can focus on his own arguments. If he did not censor a third of the movie, it would end up completely undercutting his whole basis for existence – i.e. the need for spreading pan-islamism.
Much of Zaid Hamid says is taken right out of the research conducted in this movie and to be fair authors in the West who had similar conclusions preceding this movie. However, Zaid Hamid only wants to cherry-pick portions of these researchers and twist it for his own ‘pan-islamist’ agenda.
Whether Zaid Hamid had associations with some Yusuf Ali or not is no where near as reflective of this man’s deceitful lies as the obvious way in which he cherry picks arguments to populate the basis for his own half-baked theories of pan-islamism.
Awab there are more ways to get hits on your blog then to defame a respected person like Hamid Sahib whom I know from last 3 years (personally and on proffesional levels). Bhai Sahib, it’s better after Hamid Bhai’s email response to delete the contents.
AA,
I have met Mr. Zahid Hamid during 1995-6 at an acadamic institution where he was teaching. I recall during a session in our class he gave us a presentation on flawed monetary cycle.
I couldnt find any issue with his recent lectures/programs- these are in line with his earlier thoughts. I found him very honest, dedicated to the cause person.
As far as recdent controverseries are concerned I am quite sure the people writing against him are acting on a certain plan and as highlited by Mr. Hamid these working on certain agneda i.e. to create uncetainity about Pakistan, its leadership, army and other institutions. We should identify these persons working on external agneda.
Please keep in mind that inspite of all the wrong doings by Musharaf Pakistan army is an institution loyal to Pakistan and working hard for this country.
regards,
Abdul Haseeb
@ Naif: You are repeating what you said before but the fact remains – These are just theories & you have absolutely no logic to back them up. Of course every nation/country is out to control the limited resources of the world & dominate others economically & politically. The US just happens to be the most powerful country today so it gets to dominate most of the resources. Nobody is arguing with that. The Iraq war is all about oil.
During the past 5 centuries there were several European countries that colonized & dominated much of the world. So whatever government gets a chance does it. The Pakistani government has also been doing this exploiting the natural resources in Baluchistan while denying development to the region in conjunction with the local sardars.
And you are taking the Quranic Ayat out of its context. If you take it to mean what you are saying than how do you explain the fact that Muslim men are allowed to marry Jews & Christians without converting them to Islam. How can it be possible than they cannot be your friends but you can marry them?
@ Jia: Please read my posts above. I don’t agree with personal attacks against a person but I have every right to disagree with what he has to say. Being sincere & patriotic does not mean that what Zaid Hamid is saying is correct & true. They are just his opinions.
@ Someone: Mr. Economist can you explain how using Gold instead of paper currency will solve the issue of inflation. Yes Paper Currency is created out of thin air but Gold is also dug out from earth. It has absolutely no relation to the productive resources in the economy which along with the demand for the produce determine the rate of inflation. If demand is more than supply prices will rise. Suppose there are a million gold coins in circulation in an economy. The government discovers a new gold mine & issues another million gold coins. You don’t think this would cause inflation? It DAMN RIGHT WILL because the productive resources in the economy would still be the same & people would have more money in their hands? So the government would still need to manage the amount of gold coins circulating in the economy just like it does with paper currency. I think you have absolutely no knowledge of how economies operate & what constitutes wealth for an economy.
@Naif
“Negative forces have started thier Work Against ZAid HAmid”
I didn’t know I was working for a “negtive force”. Maybe I am Darth Vader or something…. 🙂
@Barrister Ali Chishti
“Bhai Sahib, it’s better after Hamid Bhai’s email response to delete the contents”
Wow, Barister sahib! Is that what you ask for in court as well?
I think you guys are doing a terrible job supporting Mr. Zaid Hamid. You have no facts to offer just silly statements about “forces of evil at work”, meaningless CAPITALIZATION, calling it propaganda, but offering nothing of substance. Come on, get your lazy asses moving and do some research and try to really defend him properly!
(At least he deserves that much effort on part of the believers!!!)
@Naif
@Barrister Ali Chishti
@Faiza
@Other “Defenders”
Had you bothered to see, the links to videos Hammad Khan and I (“Zeitgeist”, “America: From Freedom to Fascism”, “Money as Debt”) posted support your “gold standard” bit had you bothered to look — instead of throwing tantrums. And they do offer a LOT more information to support Zaid’s argument.
Duh! 🙂
Signed,
“The Negative Force”
@Jia
“But instead of appreciating the work he is doing for Pakistan, a minority of ill-intentioned people among the Pakistani elite has unleashed a campaign of disinformation against Zaid Hamid. I suspect they are doing this because they hate his strong religious views.”
First I was working for negative forces, now I am an “elite”! Tell me one bit of “disinformation” I have posted.
If his religious views are supporting Yousaf Ali or supporting Army over God or supporting all the killing going on in FATA, Baluchistan, etc. then sure as hell I am against his “religious” views. And I am surprised he lies/twists-the-facts so much to project those religious views. Why can’t they stand on their own? Why can’t “a strong nationalist message of hope and pride in our nation” be based on truth and facts alone? Are we that far gone to have to believe in lies for our national pride? That is the only problem i have with him.
nota=teethmastro=Awwab=
Anti Pakistani, Pro America, Pro TTP, Anti Pak Army, Anti ISI
May Allah (SWT) destroy you from your roots… you will not succeed in your hate agenda against Pakistan.. Ameen. Sum Ameen
Here is a seemingly very clear and much awaited response from Mr. Zaid Hamid. In fact it doesn’t solve the riddle at all. He avoides some very basic questions raised by the people coming out and pointing finger to his association with a false prohpet. Regurgitating Sharia and other Arabic terms is not an answer to some basic questions which require only a straight forward, yes and no answer. For example,
1. Kya Yusuf Ali ne Noor-e-Muhammad (SAW) ka “libas” hone ka dawa kiya thha aur apne mannay walon ko sahabi-e-rasool kaha thha, jis mein aap bhi shamil thhay?
Did Yousaf Ali proclaimed himself to be the “libas” of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and called his followers, including yourself, “Sahabi-e-rasool?
2. Kya Yusuf Ali ne aap ko apna khalifa namzad kiya thha?
Did Yousaf Ali appointed you as his Khalifa?
3. Kya aap ne Yusuf Ali ki saza ke khilaf siyasatdanon aur ulema se rabtay naheen kiye aur us ka case adalat mein naheen lara?
Did you not contacted politicians and Ulema to contest Yousaf Ali’s sentence in the court and didn’t you fight his case in the court?
4. Aap Yusuf Ali ki taleemat se kab taeb huay?
When did you turned back from the teachings of Yousaf Ali?
5. Kya aap iqrar karte hain ke Yusuf Ali kazzab fasiq thha aur usay Lahore High Court ne saza-e-maut ka jo faisla sunaya thha wuh durust thha?
Do you testify that Yousaf Ali Kazzab was a Fasiq and the Lahore High Court decision in his case was right?
According to our information, the only answer ZZ Hamid has given so far to these five questions is to ask the person to visit him in pindi and he will explain things to him.
The allegations against ZZ Hamid are really serious. The point that this author raised stands insignificant before the real allegations by his critics in Pakistan. ZZ Hamid must consider taking his case to the court rather trying to douze the flames through e-mail exchanges. Facts are hard to hide with rhetoric and fiction.
According to our information, one of ZZ Hamid’s old friend, who had been a nazim of IJT in Karachi contacted him recently on the phone to seek his clarification whether ZZ Hamid is still asscociated with the ideology of Yusuf Kazzab or not. And as expected Zaid said that Yusuf Kazzab was “misunderstood” and he never claimed to be a prophet!
@BrokenTeeth
“nota=teethmastro=Awwab=
Anti Pakistani, Pro America, Pro TTP, Anti Pak Army, Anti ISI
May Allah (SWT) destroy you from your roots… you will not succeed in your hate agenda against Pakistan.. Ameen. Sum Ameen”
BrokenTeeth==BrokenMind 🙂
But seriously, I think you prove one has to be really dumb to support Ziad (that certainly seems to be his targeted audience)
@brokenteeth so many labels – are these all for me to choose from, to see which ones I like best 🙂 well its not nice to curse around, I have not cursed anyone of you ever, and neither have I cursed Zaid Zaman that said being a privileged administrator of this blog – I see a very interesting trend developing, I could be wrong, but you do leave a very interesting digital trail which somehow points to you [admittedly I could be wrong] but the trail somehow does point in your general direction
You appeared on this blog on 14th Sept as NANO on the blog post Sick and Tired of Musharraf Supporters by sharing with us Musharraf’s list of facts here and here
Then you reappeared as PakAlert on 16th Sept pushing your support for Musharraf here. To be honest there is no harm in hearing opposition after all the blog is meant to be a dialog – you are more then welcome to argue dispute and support your position as long as you want
You come back again to defend Zaid Hamid as Danish on this Zaid Hamid post sharing with us Zaid Hamid’s response to your email – that I must admit was a good argument going in favor of Zaid Hamid, you relogged-in as Jia voicing your support again, mind you there is no harm in hearing the other side of the argument and you are welcome to continue to do so and defend Zaid Hamid and Musharraf as long as you want – but when you resort to cursing I think it calls for a fact check. I hope this serves as a warning and cursing and foul language is not repeated again.
That’s hilarious, Doc! Thanks for the effort. So now we know who should really be using “==” 🙂
But it also leads to the very likely possibility it is Mr. Zaid himself. (See @mbokhari and my recent experience with Sameera Aziz aka moon starting here. It earned me a mention in the Saudi Gazette
(Please not that the Sister Sameera’s profanity-filled posts were deleted)
^^”It earned me a mention” should be “It earned us a mention”
Oops! Appears Saudi Gazette has gotten some sense and removed the article or I just cant find the link. But it can still be found Gulf in the Media
@@@@@@@ ALL
Y are we Hitting at each other here…arent we all Pakis?….arent we all Muslims? dont we share the same Book ? the Same Prophet ? and the same Teachings?…Y is there so much discord among us as well..
Zaid is right or wrong …can only be seen by the events as they Unfold///let each be the judge according to their own Observations and Beliefs.
let all research go to HEll….and all Comments by everyone….Let Quran Be the source and the ONLY SOURCE!!!..
and if u really want to know what hepenning and what will in due course of time : DO READ THE PROTOCOLS : i am only pasting a Brief Below :
Protocol 4
But even freedom might be harmless and have its place in the State economy without injury to the well-being of the peoples if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God, upon the brotherhood of humanity, unconnected with the conception of equality, which is negatived by the very laws of creation, for they have established subordination. With such a faith as this a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes, and would walk contentedly and humbly under the guiding hand of its spiritual pastor submitting to the dispositions of God upon earth. This is the reason why IT IS INDISPENSABLE FOR US TO UNDERMINE ALL FAITH, TO TEAR OUT OF THE MIND OF THE “GOYIM” THE VERY PRINCIPLE OF GOD-HEAD AND THE SPIRIT, AND TO PUT IN ITS PLACE ARITHMETICAL CALCULATIONS AND MATERIAL NEEDS.
WHy doesn’t Zaid Zaman Hamid comes forward and answer the 5 basic questions posed before him. I have no doubt that he is the same guy nominated by Yusuf Kazzab as his “khalifa” and now he can neither accept nor deny this fact. That is why he is just beating about the bush and hiding behind sharia terminologies and curses and the silly arguments of his moron followers rather than coming to the basic point.
@Fraz
“However, Zaid Hamid deceitfully only wants to cherry-pick portions of these researchers and twist it for his own half-baked theories of his own ‘pan-islamist’ agenda”
Thanks for the perfect description! That about says it all! And remember he presents it as his own research.
(BTW I combined two of your sentences in the quote above)
“…Everyone is most welcome to visit us in our office in Pindi and seek any further clarification if required…” Zaid Hamid
From: BrassTacks
Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: Who is Zaid Hamid???
To: Emaad Qureshi
My Dear Emaad,
aa. Jazak Allah for your message.
Alhamdolillah, all my life has been spent keeping my self under tests and trials of fire, sword and blood for the sake of this deen and in love of Rasul Allah. My prayers, sacrifices, my life and death remains for Allah and His Prophet (saw). My izzat, life, parents, property, family and even good deeds are sacrificed on Rasul Allah. I am not mad to follow false prophets after Sayyadna Rasul Allah (saw).
Those with noor can see the rehma, baraka and khair from Allah and love of Rasul Allah in the life and mission of this humble faqeer. Hasbu nallah Naimul Wakeel, Naimul Maula wa naimun Naseer.
Curse of Allah, angels and momineen be on those liars who claim to be “prophets” after Sayyadna Khatim un Nabiyyeen Muhemmed Rasul Allah (saw). Also cursed and Rajeem are those who follow such liar “prophets” and also cursed are those who accuse innocent Muslims of following such false prophets. There will be no prophet after our beloved Sayyadna, Maulana, Muhemmed Rasul Allah, Rehmat ul lil Aalimeen (saw). May Allah keep us in His serene and blessed noor and Rehma in dunya and Akhira.
May Allah be my witness in both the worlds and forgive our errors, mistakes and sins and have mercy on Ummat e Sayyadna Rasul Allah (saw). Indeed Allah is the best of Protector and most merciful on His slaves.
They have accused me of gravest of sins, called me a Kafir and Murtid, follower of false prophets, running cults, doing khiyanat in wealth of orphans and widows, working for secret services against the State, and sponsoring my own program on News1 through secret funding of dubious agencies. Also, being a fraud by pretending to be a doctor or Professor !
http://www.dictatorshipwatch.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=6156&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Do I need to respond to these shameless slandering initiated by this site ??
There are four names we see: None of them know me despite their claims.
Abid Ullah Jan — He has never met me in life.
Tahir (reporter) He too has never met me in life.
N. Shahrukh, (who does not expose his name or address) whom I sure I have never met in life or at least never in last 17 years since I left Karachi.
Faiyyaz Alam, whom I am also sure have never met in life or at least never in the last 17 years.
How on earth can they claim to know me ????? What are their motives, intentions and backers to try to stop our mission for Pakistan’s national security ???
What evidence they have provided? What they present as evidence is only fabricated allegation of Kufr and Khiyanat not proof !!! Each and every allegation must be backed by proof. Quran, Sunnat, Sharia, law and truth demands it. They respond allegation with more allegation. Have they asked me and seeked clarification before making their Bohtan ?? Are they willing to come and confront me face to face with proof on all bohtans ???
I wanted to avoid a global e-mailing match as this is what they want to draw us into to distract us from our real mission for Pakistan and Ummah. Everyone is most welcome to visit us in our office in Pindi and seek any further clarification if required. I will not defend myself any further. Even if you clarify our position, please maintain dignity and honor at all times and don’t make a public shouting match.
We don’t need to scoop to lower levels to defend ourselves and this Deen.
We will inshallah, not be distracted and continue our mission of protecting Pakistan against all threats, internal and external.
Wassalam and duago
Zaid Hamid
@Syed Sajjad Ali
It’s the third or fourth time this long meaningless “defense” is being posted. Is that the standard form-letter he has come up with for the questions?
“…Everyone is most welcome to visit us in our office in Pindi and seek any further clarification if required…” Zaid Hamid
Well I will try and take him up on the offer next time I am in Islamabad…and ON-camera.
Do you all have sense?
Some one can say any thing about any one but that is not any evidence for any thing its only called slander.
Do you not know the basic rule of justice which Allah taught Dawud alehis salam ?
Not to listen to only one party and make a judgment!!!
Quran 24 26. Evil words are for evil men, and evil men are [subjected] to evil words. And good words are for good men, and good men are [an object] of good words. Those [good people] are declared innocent of what the slanderers say. For them is forgiveness and noble provision.
Quran 85 10. Lo! they who persecute believing men and believing women and repent not, theirs verily will be the doom of hell, and theirs the doom of burning.
@Syed Sajjad Ali
“Do you not know the basic rule of justice which Allah taught Dawud alehis salam ?
Not to listen to only one party and make a judgment!!!”
Isn’t that exactly what we are doing here? Duh!
But what you really want to say is the same does not apply when it comes to Zaid. We should accept whatever he says without question, right?