Guest Blog by Azhar Aslam
India today is considered by the world to be an established state. Indians think they are on the brink of acquiring super power status. LeT on the other hand is a banned organization considered to be a terrorist non-state actor. So why is it that the belligerence and jingoism Indian state and media is what would be expected of an organization like LeT. How come Indian state is behaving like a terrorist organization?
Non-state violent actors, until recently have been called mercenaries and have been used, by different powers throughout human history. British imperialism started its life in this shape and form, the most famous being the East India Company. Sir Drake , Sir Raleigh and other such “privateers,” were all non state entrepreneurs who advanced state power. Lawless violence often preceded the rule of law.
More recently after the Second World War United States has employed several non-state forces in various parts of the world to further its foreign policy agenda, often at high human and economic cost to that country and its people. Ironically Afghanistan was one such theatre. The Indian support for Baluchistan insurgency is an open secret. There is a strength of evidence for Indian and US support for ‘Jihadist’ groups operating on Pakistani territories.
After the recent Mumbai attacks it has been claimed by India ( serious evidence still pending) that a non state actor LeT has infringed its territory and perpetrated lawless violence. Indian state and its leaders are now invoking this as a reason to respond in kind. The jingoistic antipakistani stance of Indian media and politicians is being built to hysterical levels. There have been calls to respond in ‘manner of United States’.
It is most disturbing that Indian government instead of behaving in a lawful manner befitting the largest country in the region, has tried its fullest to take ”advantage” of human misery in its own country and of its own people and made this a ‘Pakistan-centric’ event. When it should have been paying attention to healing its own wounds, India has seen it as an opportunity to salt these wounds and create fresh ones. And here the state has been led by hysterical media. That tells volume about the structural stability and framework of Indian institutions claimed to represent world’s largest democracy.
Indian state wants to behave like private bullies , justifying violence , revenge and torture just like non-state terrorists. As Arjvind Rajgopal has put it ‘War has become the preferred means of practicing politics under the guise of opposing terrorism, and it is endorsed as a sacred duty’.
India seems to be following in USSR tradition and trying to create an aura of invincibility for its own ego satisfaction without considering the hundreds of millions of its citizens who are hungry, poor and destitute. Is the death of nearly 250 people, mayhem for a few days in one city, a little hurt ego more important than the teeming masses who linger in poverty. Should India not be concentrating its efforts on spending money for creating infrastructure for its own; of education, health, transport , economic opportunities. Is it worth a war?
Common sense answer is ‘No’. So Why is it that certain parts of Indian media/intellectuals/politicians triumvirate, want India to respond in an American manner? Our analysis leads us to two reasons.
First, Indian leaders and intellectuals suffer from severe inferiority complex and generational anger lingering on from British Raj days. For all the talk of rising power of India and Indians taking over the world India is desperate to declare itself as a super power one way or another. Look closely at the pattern of Indian media’s coverage. It was not designed for Indian masses. It was designed to be fed to the international audeince, in particular US and UK citizens, whose gullibility has no limits. And it is seems India has decided that its response to Mumbai attack, (which by the way was smaller in number of casualties compared to 1993 or 2006 or Gujrat, just to quote few examples) is going to declare to the world that it has turned into a regional or world super power.
India has this complex about being ‘Like America’. This is no more than a sign of serious inferiority complex and insecurity of its own identity. The most obvious sign of this inferiority complex is that the event is described as India’s 9/11, with enemy intruders committing murder and mayhem. “9/11″ has become a nationalizing mantra across the globe, an invocation to remember violence in order to garner consent for violent retaliation.
No one has even considered that what the world has turned into after the American response. It is not as if the world has become a safer or better place that this response should be imitated. The signs of being super in power are maturity and sagacity. It is to reach out and stand against terrorism of any kind and take other ( in this case smaller) countries in the region with her. It is to lead. But has India done any of it ? No sir. So forget about being super in power. India needs to set its own house in order.
This brings us to the second reason behind India’s jingoistic stance. It is related to the long standing failure of Indian state. It has failed in three important respects. First, it has failed its own secularism and failed to forge an Indian nation; second it has failed its own poor in pure economic terms; and thirdly it has failed its Indianness in its eagerness to ape the west.
Not withstanding show boys of Indian Muslims (from Abul Kalam Azaad to M J Akbar) there is the increasing discrimination in civil society and the media against Muslims. Indian state continually fails to provide justice to its minorities and masses. Then there are Dalits, Chrsitians, Bhuddists, Tamils, Naxalites. The list goes on. I quote Gopal again:’ Muslims in India have, for some time, been treated as internal enemies, through a combination of covert and overt socio-economic boycotts, state discrimination, episodes of intense political violence, and anti-terror legislation granting judicial powers to police.’
And what is Indian response to all this. For Kashmir, it blames Pakistan; for the seven sister states Bangladesh is the culprit and China takes the blame for the Naxalite insurrection. India has been in a state of perpetual war due to its ego, border disputes with all its neighbours and misplaced priorities.
Then there are pure economic issues. Here again Indian leaders ego complexes have led to failure of its own people. This failure is villainous in part and negligent to criminal extent. It is multifold and multilayered. While ‘India is shining’ for an elite minority, the masses and the land is being opened up for a new form of colonialism for Bharati and multinationals corporations, in the name of reforms and progress.
What Indians have failed to grasp or at least have shown no capacity to put any such understanding into context is that they are seen as no more than a big economic market opportunity for western nations and corporations, due to sheer numbers. Research from the McKinsey Global Institute (MGI) shows that within a generation, the country will become a nation of upwardly mobile middle-class households, consuming goods ranging from high-end cars to designer clothing. In two decades the country will surpass Germany as the world’s fifth largest consumer market. It is this which attracts West; not some attitudinal shift in Anglo-Saxon thinking. If they are under any illusion that suddenly Westerns have started seeing them as equal partners, all they have to do is to sit in few pubs across middle England. That shall be more than sufficient to clear such delusions of grandeur.
Consequently in the name of progress, poor are marginalized. Cities suffer from severe economic and social segregation. The slums for the poor are demolished and ghettos moved around. Muslim and Dalits in India are overwhelmingly concentrated in such ghettos and, in episodes of Hindu nationalist violence, have been the principal victims of assaults. It is not India shining. It is Bollywood shining and like tinsel town it is more razz matazz than substance . The Justice Sachar Committee, in 2006, reported that ‘the condition of Muslims had deteriorated to such a point that they were worse off than the untouchable caste, which has traditionally occupied the lowest rung of Indian society’. In some cases, Muslims are ostracized to the point of social death.
And for all the talk of famed reforms by the present Indian Prime Minister in early 1990s, when he was a finance minister, it was more a case of India being at the right place at the right time by sheer luck than any planned strategic goal achievement. Indian progress owes much to certain historical events converging fortuitously at the right time. The collapse of USSR forced India into balance payment crisis, forcing Rao and Singh’s hand to deliver economic reforms where by Licence Raj was ended. At about the same time seeds of globalization were being sown while West was recovering form the recessions of early 1990s. The scores of English speaking graduates of IIT were now suddenly available at cheap labour adding impetus to Indian preeminence as outsourced markets. Western corporations were looking for cutting their costs and they started outsourcing. Indian diaspora played its part. Manufacturing was outsourced to China and IT services to India. Subsequently ore reforms followed and FDI increased as western corporations themselves sought a slice of the market.
This brings us to the third Indian failure. The fact is that Indian middle class is fast losing its ‘Dhesi’ values and the South Asian culture is being undermined by the still persistent and widely prevalent ‘ Ghulam Zahniat’. For all the slogans of ‘new super power’, ‘largest democracy’, ‘big and powerful country’ etc, the Indianness is fast ebbing away.
Most middle class Indians feel more proud to speak, act and live and display the consumerist western lifestyle than any indigenous South Asian, Indian or Baharti lifestyle. Their tastes are indistinguishable from those of prosperous young Westerners – high-end luxury cars, designer clothes, maids and full-time cooks, and regular vacations, abroad.
One sign of this is the elites in Mumbai assuming that they too must respond “like America’’ and asking where their Rudy Giuliani was ? The irony is that the sign of being developed and civilized in India is no longer the welfare of its general masses in economic and social terms but ‘ State terrorism and war’.
Like Pakistan Television is being watched increasingly in India and nearly two thirds of the population has now access to television. And it is very profitable. Consequently there is intense competition in news sector and live TV. Many of 24 hour channels are owned by transnational media corporations. And Like Pakistan a disproportionate number of prime time viewers tune into news channels (perhaps due to the age old Subcontinental taste for politics). Consequently this was the first attack that was being telecast and watched live. It seems that even the planners of these attacks knew this and planned to take full advantage of the global audience on offer. The death of V P Singh and eight people in Tamil Nadu rains from 26 to 29th November went nearly unmentioned. To quote ‘They died unmourned and even unmentioned on the explosive screens that kept millions enthralled’.
As some Indian pundits have asked that while media fixated on ‘who’ and ‘how’ for these attacks, ‘why’ was completely ignored. It is the media which seems to be leading the response of Indian State rather than the other way round. In other words, the corporate agendas of the media owners has dictated the response of Indian rulers and Indian state. The proof of sympathy to the upwardly mobile middle class urbanites it seems is war with Pakistan at the cost of teeming poor and destitute billions. As Gopal points out that the ‘the media in India is only nominally public. …it is elite who own the space and dictate the terms of its discourse. In the recent attacks hardly any attention was paid to the railway station where sixty people were killed. TV crews stayed focused on the luxury hotels, where “People Like Us” were affected.’ To quote J S Raman ‘The elite of Mumbai and elsewhere, mourning the fall of the elegant Taj, have been trying to sound tougher than even the politicians of the Parivar (the Far Right “family”).’
We thus see that these three fundamental failures of Indian State that have either incapacitated the senses of Indian State and its rulers and they are being unwillingly led by the media or they have simply become complicit in the dangerous egocentric brinksmanship regardless of the cost to people of Subcontinent. That the complex to ‘be big’ and ‘super power’ is fuelling this on cannot be doubted. But the world is watching. And India must take a note. The very status it craves for more than anything else is under threat due to its childish and amateurish actions. The more it acts like ‘Non-State’ actor the more it risks its status in the comity of nations.
Comments
474 responses to “Why is India behaving like Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT)?”
Are you serious with this post? You don’t really believe this garbage do you?
For example, how has the Indian government not behaved in a lawful manner? They could have used the Mumbai attacks to militarily confront Pakistan, but they haven’t.
Simple logic of sharing the serious evidence. Pakistan is not a trust worthy country and sharing full evidence expose the intelligence secrets. Thus, next time, ISI comes with all other options.
Second thing, One of the terrorist has come from pakistan. His father accepted that. No pakistani media talks about that.. how pathetic it is.
Third thing, US, UK and India shared the evidence of phone calls and log information. Pakistan simply saying, that is not going to stand in the court. Nothing works in pakistan and pakistan courts.
Kasab wrote a letter to pakistan high commision. But their minister said, the letter shows that he is not a pakistan. How pathetic logic it is? Do pakistan people write letters differently from rest of the world? Come on, you guys need to accept that the bad guys came from Pakistan soil. People in india might accept that, pakistan govt may not invole in the episode but terrirosts came from pakistan very clearly as per the evidence.
After the mumbai attach, your prime minister said they are going to send the cheif of ISI to share some info. With in 12 hours , he changed his words just becauase of the pressure. Your post is purely biased and 99% unrealistic in terms of saying indians are feeling inferior complex etc. Doesn’t make any sense and waste of time to argue on that point. If India wants to start a war it will. As Pakistan is not a trusted country based on earlier experiences (like Pak gove arrested many LeT leaders and released them with in two months ), the entire world lost confidence about their motives. Don’t you agree that madarasa school promotes “just kill” nature instead of living in peace?
India behaved with maturity undoubtedly or atleast the government of India which mattered: “did” and let’s not forget to appreciate the Pakistani Government(s) handling of the issue too since they are in a tough spot.
I could confirm that India has provided hardcore evidence to Pakistan and Pakistani Government is in a process of “evaluation”. The nature of evidence is more then the cell phone batteries and phone calls traced to parts (VoIP calls via Internet) but “physical, documental and couple of other interesting documentation”.
Another interesting fact is the identity of Ajmal Kasab – there’s absolutely no doubt about his Pakistani Origin and Passport but the news is that somewhere he worked with couple of foreign intelligence agencies (names of agencies (multiple) I can not disclose).
All in All, Pakistan is not a responsible nation and should be pressured to her knees in her own interest to really tighten her net and squeeze oxygen out of Taliban(s), Kashmiri Militant Outfits (even Hizbul Mujahideens) lungs.
@ because India, by nature is terrorism-based,
Nazi-Brahmanist, chosen race, flamboyant theoratical
criminals against Humanity, the rest so called
” terrorist organisations ” denounced by The famous
CONSORTIUM OF INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM, chorused in line
by the AHs, NGs, and MQM’s. It is not at all difficult to
understand the false and fake impression given by
the precedents. Bunch of intoxicated donkeys.
Asad ali,
give me an example of india’s terrorist based activities against another nation?
for example: 10 guys from pakistan killed hundreds in mumbai, india.
give me an example of indian citizens commiting such evil actions on other nations.
some food for roma brain:
“As many as 40 person training camps at Rajasthan, East Punjab, Held Kashmir, Uttar Pradesh and other parts of India are run by the RAW’s Special Service Bureau (SSB).
Throughout the Afghan War RAW was responsible for the planning and end of person activities in Pakistan to deter Pakistan from support of Afghan liberation movement against India’s ally, the Soviet Union. The buttistance provided to RAW by the KGB enabled RAW to arrange person attacks in Pakistani cities throughout the Afghan War. The defeat of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan did not end the role of RAW in Pakistan, with reports that suggest that India has established a training camp in the town of Qadian, in East Punjab, where non-Muslim Pakistanis are trained for person activities
During the course of its investigation the Jain Commission received testimony on the official Indian support to the various Sri Lankan Tamil armed groups in Tamil Nadu. From 1981, RAW and the Intelligence Bureau established a network of as many as 30 training bases for these groups in India. Centers were also established at the high-security military installation of Chakrata, near Dehra Dun, and in the Ramakrishna Puram area of New Delhi.”
I doubt that AH, NG, BG, TIT, LUL etc or whatever are different people, seems our psycho guest blister, whops, sorry, i mean barrister.
@roma,
Sikkim, Bhutan, nepal, Kashmir, Sri Lanka
Pakistan, Bangladesh and all the occupied
Indian Ocean Islands. and Tibet. India is
planning terrorism from your motherland ISRAEL,
now shut your trap and disappear.
By the way I like new logo of “Islami Jamhoria Hindustan” on top. well done Azhar..
@ proudpaki,
I gather, when they go out, they go out together
gali ke awara kuttay. nasl-e-hind-o-yahood
okay second question. Where did you people find this propaganda? do you have web links to a reputable, neutral and objective source that can back up your claims?
Or is everything you guys just said above was pulled OUT from your dumb arses?
to Assad,
you said “India is
planning terrorism from your motherland ISRAEL”
what proof do you have?
@ProudPaki,
Appropos your comments on the blog. Nice to be proud of your motherland, same do I have for mine. But Dear Paki, do nor under over estimate the resilience of Indians. I feel it is not the common public but due to our political leaders that we both countries are suffering these days. Take my words that had it not been our week political leaders your country would have been decimated from the map of the world by now. For your country’s existence today, you should be greatful to our timid leaders.
There is a very good reason why India is 25 years ahead of Pakistan in terms of economy, science, defense etc… etc..
Because one has been sitting around in his cave and hating his neighbor with every ounce of his blood while the other (India) has been opening it’s mind to the world.
The truth is Pakistan once upon a time was doing better than India on all most all fronts including social and economic front but fear of India made Pakistan a lackey of the United States of America and China. USA and CHINA exploited Pakistan so much that today they are so backward compared to India on all fronts. This is the major reason why Pakistan today is mentioned in the world press only in context to Islamic terrorism whereas today the world looks to India and China to take the world out of recession.
link again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6161691.stm
India has its problems and i dont think you will find even a single Indian who will deny that..I dont see the purpose of this article,…whats the point…that Indian system is flawed so we deserved the attacks???…How is the Mumbai tragedy linked to all the problems mentioned?? We
We have our flaws but we are doing the best we can under the circumstances…all this despite our morally weak leadership
Ofcourse we are need to set our house in order…Infact if u look at the coverage of events u will realise that a lot of questions are being raised about our unpreparedness and the lack of resources etc…Please do not believe all the jingoism peddled by the Indian media…but at the same time we would like it if Pakistan minded its own affairs instead of meddling in ours!
However, I do wish that instead of launching a “diplomatic” offensive the Indian Govt had done what Isreal is doing to Hamas! We would have settled the matter for once and for all..I mean isnt it prescribed by Shariah an eye for an eye..or something to that effect…Its always better to respond to your enemy in teh language he/she understands
ofcourse proudpaki i agree with you that Pakistan is “perfect” and every other country in the world is flawed…it is only a matter of chance that Pakistan made headlines as the most dangerous place on earth 🙂
Once again i ask you morons. What objective evidence do you have to proof your allegations of India’s terrorism links?
remember I’m asking for a civilized world standard evidence and not the type where you need 3 or 4 muslim men to testify and BAAM the accused is automatically guilty and is stoned to death.
No no no not that type of evidence yeah?
Proud Paki,
‘
The biggest humiliation an army general can go thru is to surrender in front of his equivalent from the enemy side and after the 2nd World War only one army general went thru this humiliation and his name was AK Niazi of the Pakistani army and he surrendered to Lt. Gen Jagjit Singh Aurora in the former East Pakistan.
Already US is bombing Pakistan daily and u guys have no answer for them and u have to bear the humiliation coz u want their money.
Watch the humiliation once again and cry:
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8MO52QQ6_o
you small idiot use your brain and google it if you need some links, it took me less than 1 min to find out hindu atrocities within India, at the end I have included video of your dad…
now go and dig your head in Gaow Mataa dung!!
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/more.christians.killed.in.india.violence/21306.htm
http://www.thepath.fm/news/newsitem.cfm?id=34665
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/27/2347618.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/05/2110816.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGDoUhXW0A0
@ roma,
your comment 3.48 pm
the prove is lying exactly in your
CIA, Mossad, Raw’s arses coloured in red.
and you might have an eye ball in your arse to
observe what is going on in Sri-Lanka, alteast.
what an arsehole zionist bugger.
is it general Niazi or general Nazi? anyways good one Naveen. I’m sure mr.proudpaki is busy studying his quran for an answer to your question.
so asad ali i’m guessing you dont have an answer to your own allegations yeah?
no worries. the world knows how the paki’s like to accuse and than turn around and call the world names when the world asks for evidence. oldest trick in the book.
i see 5 year old kids play this game all the time.
@NaveenKS,
your having nostalgia practice, remember
Auranzeb Alamgir, your Hindu frustration is pitiable.
@roma,
no it is General Israeli Nazi-Bastards,
gastapo-lickers
@roma,
you really want proves that you are an half-Israeli
Half-Indian zionist arshole ?
you look for proves, just watch the Bitchy BBC !
you piece of a s@# t do u know what the hell are you talking ,U are proving my point that u have verbal dehorea.
I have been reading u r comments on different issue ,and u always end up accusing hindu or jews .tommrow even if a child is born you will hold hindu or jews responsible ,
learn to take responsibility ,you nation is a failed nation because of people like you .you have been fed that Islam is the only good thing and other religion are bad and they are trying to destory it,YOU CAN NOT KILL A PERSON WHO IS HELL BENT ON SUICIDE,
we dont have to destory you cos u r religion will destroy you.
@Indian,
Those who made headlines against Pakistan
are probably your brother-in-laws, you Indians have
plenty, in future you might have some Americans, but,
for the moment you are quite happy with Takfiris
brother-in-laws in Afghanistan, ar’nt you the happiest
and the most satisfied arse ?
This blog has been posted with an interesting mixture of lack of knowledge about the facts, extreme chauvinism on the parts of this paki bastard, & complete ignorance about history. The blogger claims that Indian government did not respond in a lawful manner. How funny!!! If we have indeed behaved like that your sign would have been razed from the world map, & we had got the lands, which were lawfully ours before 1947 since the ancient times. Grow up you Pakistanis, India is far above you in every aspect. Be it military, economic social & everything else. No part of India has opted for segregation, despite being culturally diverse throughout her length & breadth. In your own country, being created on purely religious basis(that of Islam), there is Bangladesh(former East Pakistan) & now there is Balochistan, which could be ceased from bearing the shame of being a part of Pakistan, had you not taken care. In these 62 years since Independance, you had 4 military dictators(Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan,, Zia ul Haq & Parvez Musharraf). We had NONE. The people migrated to Pakistan(muslims majorly, for whom this new, so-called Muslim state was created, sacrificing the integrity of the ancient nation known as India, Hindustan, Aryawart, Bharatvarsh)were known as Mohajirs, & treated far worse than the untouchables in hindu caste system(what a paradox! seeing as Islam believes in equality of all it’s followers).Nothing such is the case in India. To conclude, Pakistan is a failed state, according to world standards. To put it in the style of Amitabh Bachhan(an Indian actor which is also popular in Pakistan, so you can understand), “YE DEKHO: 1947, JAHAN SE HUM APNI RAAHON PE CHALE THE. AJ HAMARE PAS TAKATWAR FAUJ HAI, ECONOMIC POWER HAI, CHAND PAR PAHUCHNE KI KABILIYAT HAI. KYA HAI TUMHARE PAS? HAAAY??? “
Haaaay????
@ suri,
yeh muhn aur masoor ki daal,
you Indian gandoos are hijrahs,
@proudindian.
In 1948, 1962, 1965, 1971 remember these years,
btw, we, Pakistanis, are only 61 years old,
we inherited your poverty, illiteracy, fakirs,
charsis, Mirassis, but we resisted, and survived as
all brave nations in the history, not eternal beggers
like Indians, who still have
450 millions of DALITS,
380 millions have nothing to eat and wear !
120 millions Indians kids to be adopted by EU, US
320 millions minorities at the peril of extermination.
Indian cultural activities = exterminating all
don’t worry your mouth is only as big as your Indian
small arse-hole !
Quite agreeable article.The similarity between 9/11 and Mumbai attacks is that ,
US citizens if miss the plane ,they sue the plane why it flew on time without taking them on board.
That was the kind of attitude which we recently witnessed in Bombay.It is not safe anywhere in the world.
Surprised to see that Indians live in such an artificial bubble of security.
Yes India is up and comming market ,they should feel safe and prosper but in case of any happening they cannot just go crazy bomb Pakistan.
What is shocking is this anti Pakistan sentiment which we witnessed during this time of crises in India.
Our sympathies are with them but this teenage tantrum and rage has done so much damage to both countries.
Hate would not lead us anywhere,if India is secular ,humane and friendly why its neighbour,Pakistan,China and Sri lanka ,Bangla desh are not very comfertable???
Why its citizens,television and correspondents behave so childishly in a centuries old country is beyond my understanding?
Definitely there are reasons far deeper.
Obvious being not to be in touch with reality and facts?Indian people should know the facts ,the sooner they start concentrating on themselves instead of Pakistan,the better.
If Congress thinks by undermining the will and confidence of Pakistan and by boosting the superficial ego of Indians they can psychologically over take Pakistan.
Congress has to think again.
It is not the superamacy of human psychology.It is the acceptance and equality and respect which will allow us to co-exist.
This psychological War Fair tactic cannot work in India,Paksitan and China.
The sooner we start working on prosperity ,oppertunity of common masses,improving the human condition and situation that is the only way forward.
Yesterday in an Asiana Megazine ,the question was asked what is common between all Asian Woman.
I think it is pain,sorrow and sadness.
The way forward is only mutual agreement to have condusive envoirnment for both countries so that people can work to their maximum potential.
Other way is disastereous.
War mongering , unrealistic goals and boasting rehotric is extremely false footing to stand on to face another nation which has full Nuclear capacity as well.
It might not be possible for Paksitan goverenment in future to respond as calmly as they did this time.
The result will be disastereous for both countries.It is good to have horses it is even better to harness them.
Hey Asad, don’t take them serious, Indians are like this, they have nothing constructive to do, if they had they would have find some solution rather complaining about it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6161691.stm
lolzzz.. come on sit back, relax and enjoy these miserable indians.
@proudIndian,
you smell Barrister !!
as for Bachaan, keep your langoors next to your
arse, he is far from being a mirassi even. Without
your third class “hindi speaking Bollywoodien Nehru
type goray ka bootlicker, hijrah Indian Dhoti prashad
Shastris as leaders! try to speak one full correct
sentence in your own language ! you call hindi !!
@ProudPAKI,
ha ha ha ha ha
thanks for the BBC Indian condoms sizes link, its
just hilarious, I understand, proudIndian’s hindustani,
aryawart, bharatvarsh “size and quality ” controled
comment’s unfortunate erection syndrome!!
This make me literally laugh my balls out that how stupid Indians and some Pakistanis are who moan about 10 so called Pakistani terrorists killed hundreds of Indians including many security people. If it was bomb blast or shootout in some public place or some siege like few years ago in Russia, mind understand that few people can gain power.
But look at Bombay situation, 10 people have taken control of almost half of Bombay and driving police cars and shooting out all over the town and even majority people out of buildings, commandos unable to storm in…
If that's what your security and intelligence is,,, how the heck you going to defend your country in event of war? It reminds me Great Hameed Gul words that if 10 people can take control of Bombay, then 1000 are enough to dismantle India.
Grow up Indians,, stop crying over split milk and beef up your security,, I strongly believe this is the region where 3rd world war will start sooner or later and we're prepared for it!!
how the heck you going to defend your country in event of war? How many wars India & Pakistan have fought? lets count 1947, Pkaistan army was pushed from Shrinagar to out of valley. 1965? India ended up being in Lahore. i don't need to mention 1971 n no of Paki soldiers surrendered and then 1989 at Siachin u fell flat on ur face and then 1999 Kargil? even after having the best possible condition to win u got kicked out. wOw n u r talking about WAR… tch tch tch…
Indian@4:48
good comment
barrister akc
“I could confirm that India has provided hardcore evidence to Pakistan and Pakistani Government is in a process of “evaluation”.
Considering your profession I hope you understand the term ,hard-core evidence.
Hope to see your professionally drafted evidence presented in the court of people.
@Suri
What a coincidence,, I thought the same but other way around.
Anyhow, what about 1965? You got the chance why did not your army wiped out Pakistan? ok you can say Pakistani army stuck something in your throat that time, what about 1971? don't give me old crap that it was India who broke East Pakistan, it was eventually Pakistani leadership who did that, and India as usual like vulture came to eat the dead..
The only difference between India and Pakistan is that, Hindu mentality is that it attacks from back, all knows it. And it always did. But Pakistan and Muslim stand frim and fight like a lion. Indian have no balls to stand and fight like man, again as we speak india is hanging with worlds so called powers balls and begging to act against Pakistan. Whats wrong with you guys? don't you have balls? I know there is some serious problem with Indian men (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6161691.stm…but come on guys this shouldn't make you that much coward 😉
Grow up!!!
@Roma
Now you start talking like stupid child,, do you think you'll believe whatever we produce? rather wasting your time here go and do some research for above mentioned problem for Indian men, who else could come for better idea then Indian girl.. if you are one.
@Farrah dear,
where have you found “goodness” in Indian’s comment ?
of 4.48
the final solution for Palestinian by Israeli Nazis ?
the final solution for Kashmiris by Indian Nazis ?
APPOLOGY
Indian@4:48
good comment
I considered the first half,second half is his dillusion,we are neither Hamas nor Palestine.
This dillusion is suicidal,even after seeing Bangla desh and Pakistan India in last 62 years have not tried to address the situation.When people say Pakistan and India are different.I am surprised,India is where Nehru left it handicapped with personal prejudice of pure Hinduism and I am surprised with their affair of Israel,I would not be surprised if they built a wall on India Pakistan border ,hmmnn even that would not be enough to contain inferiorty complex.
“Muslims invaded us ,ruled us and made two independednt countries out of us”Poor India ,let them be angry.
They have to bear more than this,they will kepp balming Pakistan.
@ Farrah,
Barrister only understands the very
” raw ” MQMium evidences.
sorry not balming instead blaming Pakistan.
This is from an ‘The New Indian Express’.This is evidence.There is more but “baghal may churi muun may ram ram”. This is an evil state.
“Hey I agree with Ranaweera – great minds think alike. India caused so much trouble to Sri lanka now take the lot back. India is EVIL and dangerous in the region. One big mistake you Indians made was training Tamil LTTE and undermining Sri lanks peace and economy. India and Tamil Nadu have innocent Sri lankans blood all over them. Hope Karma and God teaches India a jolly good lesson. Now have a separate state for Dravidians in tamil nadu where they can all live without destroying other races – Dravidians are genetically fighters, selfish and terrorists with a test for blood and destruction. They originate genetically fro Somalia. hey Indhira Ghandhi – turn in your grave – the terrorists you trained killed your son and are now in Kochi choo choo to Tamil nadu. Love you…………………..”
By peter william bagstaff
1/5/2009 6:07:00 AM
Please stop equating India with Hinduism…We are proud of our heritage…be the rulers Hindu or Muslim…
Our identity is not defined by religion unlike Pakistan…Our pride lies in the pluralist nature of our society..the inherent diversity of our society..different cultures, languages, religions, food, view points etc ….despite our differences we have managed to survive and prosper for 5000 years…It is a testimony to the land and the resilience of its people….They have welcomed people of all faiths and regions to this land..be it the parsis, bene jews or the moghul rulers…almost all of them have assimilated themselves into the land and its culture…
Our identity is not defined by how well or how badly our neighbors are doing…our vision is grander our goals are way higher….I for one would never want to compare India with Pakistan…just not worth the effort!
Frankly Pakistan is just like an irritating mosquito…India has the muscle and ability to squash it, anytime it pleases!
@ error of appriciation !! never trust a Hindu
in his five paragraphs, three out of which
will be only poison. Tradition oblige.
@ farrah
“Muslims invaded us ,ruled us and made two independednt countries out of us”Poor India ,let them be angry.
Does this make you happy ? Now let me increase ur happiness. There are 3 independent countries out of India … and consider Baluchistan another sovereign country in near future too.
“”despite our differences we have managed to survive and prosper for 5000 years””
soo true, you just “survived” under other’s rule. Look back at your history, if it wasn’t Muslims who ruled you,, you would have been still living in caves..
@Indian,
you have forgotten ” Brahmanism ” in Mumbai’s
human zoo !! what bullshit 2009, you speak like
PPP leaders !!! what standard !!
@counter-terrorism,
let me have the pleasure to increase your happiness
too by saying that, Baluchistan will be Inshallah,
the wide open Qabrustan for Indians !!
ha ha ha…ur limited world view is seriously funny!
here read this…Indus Valley civilization is regarded as amongst the most advanced ancient civilizations…they definitely did not live in caves…neither did the Guptas, the Mauryas nor the Cholas and Chalukyas! 😛 seriously you need to get ur facts right before you jump into a debate…
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India
“The history of India begins with the Indus Valley Civilization, which spread and flourished in the north-western part of the Indian subcontinent, from c. 3300 to 1300 BCE. Its Mature Harappan period lasted from 2600-1900 BCE. This Bronze Age civilization collapsed at the beginning of the second millennium BCE and was followed by the Iron Age Vedic period, which extended over much of the Indo-Gangetic plains and which witnessed the rise of major kingdoms known as the Mahajanapadas. In one of these kingdoms Magadha, Mahavira and Gautama Buddha were born in the 6th century BCE, who propagated their Shramanic philosophies among the masses.
Later, successive empires and kingdoms ruled the region and enriched its culture – from the Achaemenid Persian empire[1] around 543 BCE, to Alexander the Great[2] in 326 BCE. The Indo-Greek Kingdom, founded by Demetrius of Bactria, included Gandhara and Punjab from 184 BCE; it reached its greatest extent under Menander, establishing the Greco-Buddhist period with advances in trade and culture.
The subcontinent was united under the Maurya Empire during the 4th and 3rd centuries BCE. It subsequently became fragmented, with various parts ruled by numerous Middle kingdoms for the next ten centuries. Its northern regions were united once again in the 4th century CE, and remained so for two centuries thereafter, under the Gupta Empire. This period, of Hindu religious and intellectual resurgence, is known among its admirers as the “Golden Age of India.” During the same time, and for several centuries afterwards, Southern India, under the rule of the Chalukyas, Cholas, Pallavas and Pandyas, experienced its own golden age, during which Indian civilization, administration, culture, and religion (Hinduism and Buddhism) spread to much of south-east Asia.
Islam arrived on the subcontinent in 712 CE, when the Arab general Muhammad bin Qasim conquered Sindh and Multan in southern Punjab,[3] setting the stage for several successive Islamic invasions between the 10th and 15th centuries CE from Central Asia, leading to the formation of Muslim empires in the Indian subcontinent, including the Ghaznavid, the Ghorid, the Delhi Sultanate and the Mughal Empire. Mughal rule came to cover most of the northern parts of the subcontinent. Mughal rulers introduced middle-eastern art and architecture to India. In addition to the Mughals, several independent Hindu kingdoms, such as the Maratha Empire, the Vijayanagara Empire and various Rajput kingdoms, flourished contemporaneously, in Western and Southern India respectively. The Mughal Empire suffered a gradual decline in the early eighteenth century, which provided opportunities for the Afghans, Balochis and Sikhs to exercise control over large areas in the northwest of the subcontinent until the British East India Company[4] gained ascendancy over South Asia.”
prey do tell me what is this “Brahamnism” in Mumbai zoo that you talk abt? Do shed some light on the topic with relevant and credible sources 🙂
btw ProudPaki u caught the survived but missed the prosper…i now truly believe people only see what they want to see….
Do read this too…to further understand how we were all living in caves 😛 before your ancestors decided to lift us out of our collective misery!!seriously rofl!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_ancient_India
….Baluchistan will be Inshallah,
the wide open Qabrustan for Indians !!
Indians?? When did Balochi people become Indians ?
Btw, same Cockheadedness were displayed by ur Gen. Nazi and co in 71.
Take a cue from history man.