Drones parked in our own backyard, to Bomb our own People


In a shocking discovery reports have emerged from simply Google Earth images evidence of three drones parked on an airfield in some remote destination within Baluchistan, the images were captured by orbiting satellites and archived within Google Earth data warehouse to suddenly be discovered recently. Though there is no denying that during the Musharraf regime bases were rented out to the American army costing them a massive deficit to the tune of $10 Billion. But what probably irks the nation is that the Pakistani government have categorically denied that the Pakistani bases are being used to launch drones-

Omar Qureshi who writes for The News broke this discovery locally in Pakistan

The picture of the drones on the Pakistani soil, taken in 2006, has three drones, all Global Hawks. The picture has coordinates and they can be vaguely read as 27 degrees, 51 minutes North; 65 degrees, 10 minutes East. These coordinates place the strip not far from the nearby Jacobabad airbase which is around 28 degrees north, 68 degrees east.

One can easily verify the authenticity of the picture taken in 2006 with the 2009 image found online on Google Maps by merely inserting the above coordinates [or follow this LINK] in satellite mode

The Times Online also carried the report

The CIA is secretly using an airbase in southern Pakistan to launch the Predator drones that observe and attack al-Qaeda and Taleban militants on the Pakistani side of the border with Afghanistan, a Times investigation has found. The Pakistani and US governments have repeatedly denied that Washington is running military operations, covert or otherwise, on Pakistani territory — a hugely sensitive issue in the predominantly Muslim country.

The Pakistani Government has also repeatedly demanded that the US halt drone attacks on northern tribal areas that it says have caused hundreds of civilian casualties and fuelled anti-American sentiment. But The Times has discovered that the CIA has been using the Shamsi airfield — originally built by Arab sheikhs for falconry expeditions in the southwestern province of Baluchistan — for at least a year. The strip, which is about 30 miles from the Afghan border, allows US forces to launch a Drone within minutes of receiving actionable intelligence as well as allowing them to attack targets further afield

But it all started a few days earlier when Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee commented on 13th of February that unmanned CIA Predator aircraft operating in Pakistan are flown from an air base in Pakistan. The disclosure also marked the first time a U.S. official had publicly commented on where the Predator aircraft patrolling Pakistan take off and land.

The CIA declined to comment, but former U.S. intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information, confirmed that Feinstein’s account was accurate.

While Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at Georgetown University, said Feinstein’s comments put Pakistan’s government on the spot.

If accurate, what this says is that Pakistani involvement, or at least acquiescence, has been much more extensive than has previously been known,” he said. “It puts the Pakistani government in a far more difficult position [in terms of] its credibility with its own people. Unfortunately it also has the potential to threaten Pakistani-American relations.

Chowrangi very rightly sums up the dilemma facing the people of Pakistan

But now the cat is out of the bag. So that is once more proved that how much regard American and our own government has for the people who reside in Pakistan. Their lives are of no value and our own government is involved in the killings. What a shame and what a sorry state of affairs. Another lie of our president has been caught and nobody knows how many more are on the way

For now the Government of Pakistan has a lot of explaining to do and just mere diversion tactics towards Musharraf might alone not help their case.



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143 responses to “Drones parked in our own backyard, to Bomb our own People”

  1. Just Askin' Avatar
    Just Askin'


    Where do you think the Soviet Army would be if the US hadn't backed the mujahedin? Peacefully parked on the Afghan/Pakistan border? Sitting in their new warm-water port of Karachi? How many Pakistanis would have died? Would AQ Khan have been able to develop and market a Pakistani nuclear weapon (and how many people will that kill if it is ever used)? Do you really think the people of Waziristan are fighting to rule London, Paris, and Washington?

    Cui bono? That's who you should be focusing on, not bizarre conspiracy theories and anti-Israel rhetoric. The source of these problems is much closer to home.

  2. Cog Avatar

    "once more proved that how much regard American and our own government has for the people who reside in Pakistan."

    Are you kidding? Do Pakistani citizens killed by Taliban or Qaeda bombings have any value? Do Indian or Afghani citizens killed in attacks born in the tribal areas of Pakistan have any value? Aid workers trying to effect change in the region, who have been killed or kidnapped at an alarming rate, do their lives have any value?

    What about the youth of South Asia, the Middle East, or North Africa who are effected by the storm of violent jihad videos coming from mass production facilities in Pakistan? Does the future of those children have any value?

    Pakistan needs to get its own house in order.

  3. KarimG Avatar

    Is it just me or you folks have also noticed, touch the nerve, encourage people to read and get informed, name the culprits and mention their history….Israel Israel always Israel, who talked about Israel…First Mr. Katz shows up promoting bombing of Karachi, now these clowns appear…..

    How many will you kill, how many will you maim, what have you achieved till now, there will be hell to pay when time will come!

    I don't get it, Russians were bad, people fighting against Russians are worse…so why did you call them 'freedom fighters' why did you fund them train them financed their madrasas…why? Is it always about momentary gain regardless of the human cost, is this what is going on now. It seems defense industry is making a killing, that's for sure, the Zionists who provide the political muscle want more and more bloodshed, that way nobody talks about their butchery against defenseless people. As a matter of fact read a very interesting headline today that suggested that politician should be required to wear jerseys like Nascar drivers, with logos of all their promoters and fund providers…imagine Zardari and Altaf Bhai, there wont be enough room on the shirt!

  4. Kurgen99 Avatar

    Very interesting to see this internal debate here.

  5. James Avatar

    how come terrorists are "your own People"

    are u bin laden?

  6. KarimG Avatar

    Some body hand James that bag of chips and send him away to watch TV…James, didn't any body teach you manners that when older people are talking you don't interfere..uh!

  7. Omar Avatar

    I can't be bothered to read all the comments coz frankly there are too many to read and respond to individually so i will just make one of my own:

    It's all about money, power and ego. Mostly money, if you think there is religon, race, color, political stand, patrioticism involved in any of these wars/activities then you are sadly mistaken.

    Money is King. PERIOD!

  8. readinglord Avatar

    Let us go back in history a bit when the Sikha Shahi ruled mainly the land which now constitutes Pakistan. It were then the British (East India Company) which had liberated us from the stranglehold of the bloody Shahi and later on gave us the land now called Pakistan. All big talk aside, it is now the West which has now come again to save us from Taliban Shahi (You can call it Islamic or bearded Sikha-shahi) as our PP Thug-shahi has neither the will nor the capability to do that.

  9. KarimG Avatar

    How Enlightening!

  10. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Let us go back in history a bit when the Sikha Shahi ruled mainly the land which now constitutes Pakistan.[Readinglord]


    Dear Sir,

    If I am not wrong Kabul, Afghanistan was in Ranjit Singh's Territory.

    "The sardars of Peshawar started a series of successful conspiracies against the Mujahideen that it was not long that their influence from the whole of Peshawar district was completely washed away. They succeeded in obtaining a Fatwa from Ulema who labelled the Mujahideen and Ameer ul Mujahideen as Kafirs (Infidels). They even brutally murdered Qazi Mazhar Ali and Arbab Faizullah Khan Mohmand under the pretext of taking revenge for the death of Yar Muhammad Khan. After their murder, a timeframe was set in which it was ordered that all Mujahideen found anyplace in Peshawar or its vicinities be killed. "

    According to historians, Syed Ahmad Shaheed was very well accustomed to issues of warfare but he was not familiar with politics. This could have been the reason that he fell for the false pledges made by the former rulers of Peshawar who were playing a political game with him.

    One day Arbab Bahram Khan's men came with this news that the Durranis (Rulers of Peshawar) have crossed the River Landa (Present day River Kabul) and reached Utman Zai under the intention of fighting against Syed Sahib. Many advised Syed Sahib that instead of waiting for the Durranis to come and knock at our doorsteps we should ourselves march towards Peshawar to face the enemy. But Said sahib was worried about leaving the bickering local sardars while he himself would be engaged with the Durranis.

    For the Mujahideen it was more serious task to confront the Muslim hakims of Peshawar rather than the Sikhs. These rulers of Peshawar were four brothers from the Barakzai tribe named Sultan Muhammad Khan, Pir Muhammad Khan, Syed Muhammad Khan and Yar Muhammad Khan. These brothers had pledged allegiance to Syed Ahmad Barelvi but behind his back, they would conspire against him with the Sikhs.

    The Barakzai rulers created many problems for those Khans of Peshawar who supported the Mujahideen. Their lands and properties were confiscated and even their relatives were not left alone. Some of the Khans who were victims of this campaign were Arbab Bahram Khan, his brother Arbab Juma Khan, Alam Khan of Utmanzai, and Mahmood Khan of Tangi.

    If the people had openly supported the Mujahideen of Syed Ahmad Barelvi, there would have been no doubt that the Sikhs would be defeated. However there were a few issues that were creating hurdles in the way of the Mujahideen:

    Peshawar was being governed by the Barakzai Sardars who time and again played a double game with the Mujahideen.

    The Sikh army was well organised and had been given quality training by the British and the French.

    The local Khans and Maliks who never were able to unite on a single platform against the enemy.

    'Tareekh e Peshawar' (History of Peshawar) Munshi Gopal Daas

    For further reading Pakistan Kay Siyasi Wadaray by Aqeel Abbas Jafferi.

    The CIA and other outfits are in Northern Area and what we watch on media is what they wanted us to watch.

    Militants were paid to repay Al Qaeda debt By Ismail Khan

    PESHAWAR, Feb 8: The government paid huge amounts of money to four of the five most-wanted militants in South Waziristan, who surrendered and signed peace deals with the authorities in November last year , to enable them to repay the debt they claimed they owed to Al Qaeda, sources told Dawn. Payments were made as part of a package after the militants insisted that they needed to pay back a huge sum they had taken from Al Qaeda in their fight against Pakistani forces. The sources said the payments were made from the secret service fund (SS Fund) and the four militant commanders were summoned to Peshawar for the purpose. Two of them, Haji Sharif and Maulvi Abbas, received Rs15 million each, while Maulvi Javed Karmazkhel and Haji Mohammad Omar were each paid Rs1 million.


    "Afridi was a key player in the Afghan war of resistance against the Soviet Union’s occupying troops in the decade up to 1989. It is a matter of record that top US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officials believed in the early 1980s that they would never be able to justify a multibillion-dollar budget from the government to provide support to the mujahideen in the fight against the Red Army. As a result, they decided to generate funds through the poppy-rich Afghan soil and heroin production and smuggling to finance the Afghan war. Afridi was the kingpin of this plan. All of the major Afghan warlords, except for the Northern Alliance’s Ahmed Shah Masoud, who had his own opium fiefdom in northern Afghanistan, were a part of Afridi’s coalition of drug traders in the CIA-sponsored holy war against the Soviets. Sources say that Afridi’s constituencies in eastern and southern Afghan provinces have been revived following the withdrawal of the Taliban, and with them the drugs trade. Commanders such as Haji Abdul Qadeer, Haji Mohammed Zaman and Hazrat Ali are once again ruling the roost in these areas. These commanders used to be the biggest heroin and opium mafia in Afghanistan’s Pashtun belt.

  11. Majnoon Avatar

    @ Sardar Lord Reading Singh,

    your remark is very funny but typical

    of your's………… you know what I mean ?

    Sardar jis were kickedout but left their

    Sikh Shahi in the region, the significant

    legacy = JEHALAT

  12. Majnoon Avatar

    @ James dear,

    terrorist are paid by American Neocons,

    Baitullah and Fazlullah are American

    agent terrorist, that is why American puppet

    Zardari is having agreements with them.

    Ben Laden is " made in USA " biproduct since

    9/11 which is also " made in USA ", the biggest

    E V I L on earth.

    1. Teeth Maestro Avatar


      Rafay Kashmiri / Asad Ali / Majnoon / Qasim are all the same person – Its sad – but since you continue to flout the code of conduct of this blog you are hence forth blocked on the site – these are the last set of comments I will choose to let by – after which all will end up in the trash can without an explanation.

  13. Majnoon Avatar

    @ The homeland of David Katz, Israel,

    must be bombed, as Israel is an ally of

    India against Pakistan, Indo/Israeli produced

    and manufacture terrorist in the region,

    of course, Baitullah and Fazlullah are their agents.

    Get the evil by his balls, finish Israel,bastard,

    and rape Indian bitch.

  14. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    @teeth maestro!

    don't you think that it is better to give the warning first and act later?

    you have the all e mail adresses.i think a simple warning letter would be enough.

    many people do not know,many people like me get freak out during discussion.

    a sudden kick will be a real shock for many.

  15. KarimG Avatar

    Al-Jarrah the nephew, 9/11 hijacker

    Al-Jarrah the uncle, Israeli spy



  16. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    From the link: "…the men were 20 years apart in age and do not appear to have known each other well."

    Yes. The elder cousin used ESP and secret Jew smoke signals to convey orders from the Zionist bosses to the nephew.

    My eyes have been opened to the grand plan of the Zionist pigs!

  17. KarimG Avatar

    Take a nap Dany!

  18. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    I need a nap, given the sheer scale of this revelation. Plus I need to rest so I can build myself a bunker tomorrow to protect myself from the marauding Zionist Secular-Fascist armies. *terrified*

  19. KarimG Avatar

    Freedom of the mind requires not only, or not even especially, the absence of legal constraints but the presence of alternative thoughts. The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity, but the one that removes awareness of other possibilities.

    Alan Bloom


  20. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    quote of the day.

  21. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    There is rational scepticism, and there are many alternative news outlets that are worthy reads. And then there are looney theories perpetrated by the likes of Michel Chussodovsky and Hameed Gul. Learn to spot the difference, that's what Mr Bloom would ask you to do.

  22. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    analysis of 9/11 comission by dr david ray griffen.

    dr david ray griffen is one of famous "conspiracy theorist"

    author of the book " the new peral harbour"


  23. KarimG Avatar

    Dany Boy, here it is. I don't deny that it is IMPOSSIBLE that a low-tech outfit like Al-Q (if it really exists) has not carried out 9/11, OBL from Tora Bora caves planned and executed one of the most sophisticated operation against US, that OBL and Al-Q made arrangements via Dick Cheney that NORAD, the most comprehensive North American defense system, that tracks and intercepts hundreds of stray planes over the skies of US and Canada, would stand down on the only day when this multi-billion dollar, thousands of hours of training program and protocol could have been used for what it was created…that Al-Q and OBL informed investors of a 'certain nationality' to bet in the stocks of Airlines that would be affected…no sure enough it is possible that OBL and his alleged outfit did it, but it appears highly unlikely

    On the other hand…..

    2 planes hit 2 buildings in New York, bringing down 3 buildings in New York, defying all laws of physics and modern civil engineering, US government destroying all evidence as quickly as possible, obstructing comprehensive investigation, till this day no adequate explanation on why NORAD failed even when considerable time lapsed from the time the first plane's transponder stopped and the fourth plane crashed, no prosecution of the people on the ground whether the accomplices of the hijackers or the US armed forces and radar personnel….Dany the list is LOOOOOOONG, but for you to grasp it, you will first need to get your head out of that dark smelly place!

  24. farrah, k.raja Avatar
    farrah, k.raja

    Oh God !

    Still we are there how many times do we need to go over it.

    9/11 was a conspiracy.Terrorism is the word out of politics.

    The real challenge is Extremism which would have further strengthened in the wake of Iraq,Palestine and Afghanistan.

    No signs of it on the surface though.

  25. Atif Avatar

    Yeah Hum Nahi… We are the one who kills our owns… when i was a kid, i was quite amaze about listening that how animal ate their own babies… now I got my answer, Hunger can make any one what he not supposed to be… a wild, a monster, a devil or what so on… Now if feel shamed to be an educated person who have nothing to do with these educated and civilized open minded devils… shame on us.

  26. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar


    the difference between animals and human is that the hungar of animal starts when its stomach become empty while hungar of human begins as he fill his stomch.

  27. General user Avatar
    General user

    Haven't seen this on TV or print media.

    Some one submit this image to News agencies like Gew etc

  28. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    "One is the fact that terrorism works. It doesn't fail. It works. Violence usually works. That's world history. Secondly, it's a very serious analytic error to say, as is commonly done, that terrorism is the weapon of the weak. Like other means of violence, it's primarily a weapon of the strong, overwhelmingly, in fact. It is held to be a weapon of the weak because the strong also control the doctrinal systems and their terror doesn't count as terror. Now that's close to universal. I can't think of a historical exception, even the worst mass murderers view the world that way. So pick the Nazis. They weren't carrying out terror in occupied Europe. They were protecting the local population from the terrorisms of the partisans. And like other resistance movements, there was terrorism. The Nazis were carrying out counter terror"


  29. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    You guys are the kings of quoting texts out of context. Heh.

    And KarimG, there are so many factual problems and "hawai fire" assertions in your post that I'd rather not get muddied in this sty. You keep asking people to "open their eyes", but to what? Speculation? No thanks.

    Most of the people on here are absolutely ignorant about the world and remain within their shells; and thus try to pass off their looney theories as 'facts' backed by the 'top minds' of the West. What is saddest about this phenomenon is that it is prevalent throughout Pakistan, which is why policy is affected negatively. Worse still, the rational opponents of violence and proponents of peace and human rights are pushed into the same corner as Satan simply because they choose to actually understand and analyse situations based on evidence, and not on the parent community's pathological hate for Jews, Hindus or any "Other".

    So sad.

  30. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    "Inna lillahe wa inna alehe rajeoon"


    still wondering why the mentality pakistani secular fascists is similar to zionists?

  31. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    please do not mind if i say that your name should be "denial burki" rather danial burki

  32. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    Heh, you can call me whatever you want (you've already used some extremely abusive language against me), it still won't take away from your ignorance. And I think you should first understand the meaning and connotations of the word 'fascism' (I know you won't, but I'll recommend it anyway! Heh) before throwing it at others. Because, as proven in the other thread about women, it is your worldview and belief system that embodies fascism, not mine.

  33. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    Author: Danial Burki


    hey denial burki!

    what is this?

    isn't that proof of fascism?

    you people are impossible.

  34. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    This is from Amnesty International, one of the most credible human rights organisations in the world. This is also the very organisation that exposed Israeli warcrimes in detail. What's wrong with being impartial? Are you saying that Hamas does not kill its Palestinian opponents? All of a sudden, just because AI reported on Hamas, it's become a fascist organisation? It seems you'll only believe Amnesty International when the killers of innocent Palestinians are Jews.

    What you are proposing is that all criticism of who you consider holier-than-all should be muffled and only those opposed to your worldview should be slammed. That's called 'fascism', my dear Dr Jawad. Herr Fuhrer would be proud.

  35. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    Since you refuse to look it up yourself (apparently your Google only throws up links to conspiracies!), here's the definition of fascism:

    (ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-): a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation, race and often religion above the individual and that stands for a centralised autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

    Sound familiar?

  36. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    "Herr Fuhrer would be proud"

    not because of me but because of you.

    because what he did in europe is exactly the same as americans and israelis are doing right now with the jihadis and other resistance movements in the name on war on terror.

    he would be proud because you support the phenomenon.

    "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation, race and often religion above the individual and that stands for a centralised autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

    are we talking about gen pervez musharraf?

    yes! sound familir.

  37. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    For the twenty millionth time, Israel is not a secular state but a religious one, and at no time have I even supported its existence. Do you ever read my posts or do you use your overactive imagination while responding?

    What does Musharraf have to do with this discussion? And where have I stated that I supported Musharraf?

    I simply support the offensive against the Taliban, which is not particular to Musharraf. It is also being followed by the current government, and rest assured that even if Mian Sahib was in power, he'd have done the same.

    I do support the war on terror, and with no shame. But you need to address the issues rather than run off on tangents like Musharraf.

    Now, again, answer the question: should we disregard what Amnesty International is saying just because it has also exposed Hamas as a brutal gang that does not give a crap about the Palestinians? Let's not forget that Hamas was formed as a mullah-led counterweight to the real liberation movement of Palestine led by Yasser Arafat. But I bet that is just revisionist history programmed into my evil Zionist mind by my taskmasters. Bloody hell, you are really thick!

  38. KarimG Avatar

    This will be my final attempt with you Dany, look when nations are struggling in the conditions that Palestinians are, the criticism of how they conduct their struggle is misplaced at best. The great struggles of people facing injustices have had such aberrations, the 'burning tires' of South Africa, the 'knee capping' of Northern Ireland and so on…the Palestinians have basically no choice, they will have to do deal with their 'collaborators' in their own way, as a matter of fact I can't even blame the collaborators very much because the kind of inhuman conditions that regimes like Israel impose, I don't know if I would not 'sell out' to feed my family. As for AI, it is under a great deal of pressure to produce 'balanced' report on the most unbalanced situation. On one side you have a regime considered fourth strongest military force in the world, armed up to teeth with the most advanced weaponry by the US, on the other you have people that are occupied, vilified and hated by the western regimes, and even by the people like you in the east (I suppose) armed with light armaments and home made rockets…there simply is no comparison, yet it is this amazing influence that the zionists have that even AI has to produce these so called 'balanced' reports. Do a little research and you will find out that when PLO was a very much secular organization that included people like Geaoge Habbash (PFLP) Ashrawi, Edward Said and Dr. Abdul Shafi, it was Israel that helped Shaikh Yasin to mobilize and start Hamas in order to push Palestinian struggle towards religious extremism in order to de-legitimize the Palestinian struggle in the west. PLO finally sold out and good people left, when Palestinians elected Hamas in Gaza, Hamas was declared 'terrorist'.

    Dany, as I have said some where else on this blog before, it is the Israelis who have chosen to live this way, they have come to this land to steal, to commit atrocities to occupy other people, the Palestinians. How Palestinians will choose to fight back, I will not allow myself to criticize, for me it will be like criticizing a woman defending herself while being raped!

  39. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    Where your moral compass points is not my problem, but I do have a problem with facts about Hamas being dismissed in such a manner. Further, please don't conflate Hamas and the Palestinian people, because Hamas only managed a mandate of less than forty percent in the elections. So a majority of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza did not vote for Hamas. Therefore, while you and I share sympathy for the Palestinians, we seriously differ on how to approach this issue in terms of analysis.

    Further, I think it's insulting to AI, which sends reporters under mortar fire to lie in buildings with injured, dead and dying Palestinians to report, to claim that it is producing 'balanced' reports just to please the Israelis. If they wanted to do that, they'd have simply overlooked the entire thing.

  40. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    p.s. Sorry, a factual error on my part: Hamas' exact vote was 42.9 percent, not under forty percent as I stated in my earlier post. Still, almost sixty percent of Palestinians did not vote for Hamas.

  41. KarimG Avatar

    Nathan-YHOOOOOO will be the new (old) genocidal-in-chief in the zionist disneyland….what is his vote percentage?

  42. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    His party isn't even the leader as far as Knesset seats are concerned. He's only been asked to form government because he has the support of the religious-right parties. How is this relevant to the discussion, though?

  43. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    Hamas Sweeps Palestinian Elections, Complicating Peace Efforts in Mideast

    By Scott Wilson

    Washington Post Foreign Service

    Friday, January 27, 2006; Page A01

    RAMALLAH, West Bank, Jan. 26 — The radical Islamic movement Hamas won a large majority in the new Palestinian parliament, according to official election results announced Thursday, trouncing the governing Fatah party in a contest that could dramatically reshape the Palestinians' relations with Israel and the rest of the world.

    In Wednesday's voting, Hamas claimed 76 of the 132 parliamentary seats, giving the party at war with Israel the right to form the next cabinet under the Palestinian Authority's president, Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of Fatah.

  44. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    Hamas sweeps to election victory

    Islamic militant group Hamas has won a surprise victory in Wednesday's Palestinian parliamentary elections.

    Preliminary results give Hamas 76 of the 132 seats in the chamber, with the ruling Fatah party trailing on 43.

    The win poses problems for efforts to restart peace talks with Israel, say analysts. Israel insists it will not deal with an authority including Hamas.


  45. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar

    disappointing isn't it?

    inspite of all evilness google search do marvelous job.

    disoppointing? isn,t it?


    i tell you what to do.

    take the claim of 42%. mould it well.


    (i can't tell….because teeth maestro will kick my butt)

  46. KarimG Avatar

    ….put it where sun doesn't shine!

  47. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    Haha, the manner in which you guys are looking to get a quick victory here is highly amusing.

    First, the 132-seat PNA assembly is determined through proportional representation through electoral lists and district lists. Therefore, Hamas won more SEATS, indeed a majority, but not the majority of popular vote. So your challenged minds can comprehend it a little better, consider the example of the US election in 2000: while Al Gore won the popular vote, he lost the electoral college, thus Dubya became president.

    The figure of 42 percent is verifiable from the Palestinian Election Council's website as well as Wikipedia (which links back to the PEC anyway).

    So of the total 77 percent of total registered voters that actually turned out, only 42 percent voted for Hamas. Their distribution through constituences translated into a seat victory for Hamas, but it in no way indicates that a majority of Palestinians voted for Hamas. If only you guys spent some time actually researching how the PNA election system works, you'd have a better idea of how to read an electoral list/result. I'm guessing neither of you champions of the ummah ever took Political Science 101 at college.

    Dr Jawad, it must really annoy you to have every one of your attempts at insulting me fall flat. And I'm guessing it annoys you even more that I don't respond with similar abuse.

  48. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    p.s. Before you eminent political scientists go off on an angry tangent again, let me make it clear that despite the fact that Hamas did not have a basic majority of the overall vote, playing by the rules, it had every right to form government and there should not have been a boycott from Israel and the US. In fact, had the world accepted Hamas as a 'political' rather than 'militant' organisation, Hamas would have had to disarm anyway given the expectations of the Palestinian voters.

  49. Danial Burki Avatar
    Danial Burki

    p.p.s. Dr Jawad, I fully defend your right to verbally abuse me (because unlike the terrorists you support, I won't kill you for it). But what Teeth Maestro 'should' kick your butt for is the destruction you unleash on the English language.

    Last I checked, Pakistani medical schools taught in English. I guess standards have fallen quite a bit.