Over the past many years there has been a strong lobby of Baluchistan Separatists Movement who strive to separate the Province of Baluchistan from Pakistan. The efforts in recent times have gained significant foot hold to become the talk of the town in recent few months, Patriotic Pakistanis are generally averse to this proposition while the corrupt politicians continue to strangulate the province forcing the Baluchis to struggle for an independent Baluchistan.
A few years back in 2006 US Armed Forces Journal published a map outlining the new Blood Borders which discussed the possibility of a seperate Baluchistan, this map was met with severe outcry across Pakistan. The pros and cons of such a division are still heavily debated and only until recently has it started taking a turn for the worse
A reader of this blog, Basit, pointed about a surprising discovery in one of the forms published on the USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) website, the form under question is the AR-11 [Change of Address] form which is used by non US Nationals to notify the USCIS of any change in address. Surprisingly the field “Country of Citizenship” lists Baluchistan (Pakistan) as an option. Within the list of countries listed, I was relieved to see Pakistan still listed, but cant seem to understand why they chose to list Baluchistan alone and conveniently forgot to list the more populus of our other three provinces like Sindh, Punjab or even NWFP.
It could very well be an accidental error, it could also be a list of the most often used terms that people use to fill out this USICS form, or it could very well be a direct indication of things to come, a suggestion that Baluchistan may very well become a country separated from Pakistan.
The issue of Baluchistan being such a sensitive topic I believe the inclusion must touch a very sensitive nerve and should be condemned across the board, with the hope that the Pakistani diplomatic envoys [hopefully they have some balls] to challenge the US officials for an offical apology and an immediate removal.
Credit Basit
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186 responses to “US Immigration Form lists Baluchistan as Country of Citizenship”
So sk-baloch, suppose you get separated. Where will you stand in nations of world? Idiot it is not ata, its fertile land i am talking about. Middle east with all its oil wealth it trying to buy agri land in Pakistan because they are not dumb as you and know human cannot survive on base of some stupid thing discovered under ground that can run out at any moment in time. Why Balochistan is backward is due to your sardars. Since you dont have any greenery, there is lack of oxygen in Balochistan. Thats you your IQ is so fucking low. We need oxygen for proper functioning of our brains. See if you have brains, you can make things. If gas under your land disappeared, you will fucking starve and start raiding neighboring countries if you become independent. You have to realize you are sitting on a most shitty place on earth, where you cannot even get drinking water. Water flows of up to downstream. While there is himalayas to support punjab and sindh, you fucks have no SOURCE OF WATER. Do me a favour. Try to live 2 days without water in scorching heat of sibi, and then tell me how nationalistic you remain. Its just our bad luck we inherited budhoos like you who want to shoot on their own foot. Since nobody can be so dumb, I think you are indian raw agent. if not, then you are most dumb asshole ever.
@ Hafiz. Let me tell you, there is different in being Baloch and being from Baluchistan. Chudary sahib is not baloch. Well Ali Ahmed kurd is not public representative, he does not represent the baloch people, he is just lawyer. We never blamed only punjabis for mess in Baluchistan. It is Pakistan specially Punjabi and Mohajir ( mushraff was mohajir). Our problem is not leaders but Pakistan. The exploitation begun from 1948 when Pakistan forcefully occupied Baluchistan.Why every government but every government prefer Punjab and neglect Baluchistan. Why the bad rulers are somehow good for Punjab but outrightly against Baluchistan? All development indexes shows that Baluchistan is the least developed despite being the sparsely and least populated. Here is what DAWN the leading news paper of Pakistan says" Given the vast resources of Baluchistan the people in Baluchistan should be the most rich in Pakistan yet the are the most poor" DAWN COURTESY.Bro there is time frame for everything. From the right beginning we did not start "war of Independence". In my earlier post I have told you that we have struggled but were suppressed forcefully by state of Pakistan. Then we have no alternative option left but to wage war for liberation. We never initiated this war, the war was imposed on us. My bro you can see the injustice is still going on. What Pakistan is doing to pacify baloch people, nothing but nothing. It is just using force to suppress us( balochs). Few days before a women rally was attacked in Turbat by paramilitary forces resulting in death of one student and one female school teacher got critical injuries.People are bing thrown from mountains. Almost 8000 thousand people are missing, allegedly have been taken by ISI, MI and other secret agencies of state of Pakistan, and are believed to be tortured to death. Many people we resurfaced after have been taken from ISI can not walk today. Press is under attack. ASSAP daily baloch news paper has been shut down. AZADI news paper has been shut down. Journalist are being beaten By paramilitary forces.There is nothing reformatory going on in Baluchistan. MIiss zarina marri is still missing and is being being used as sex slave in army incommunicado.Some wounds are too deep to heal.there is nothing in Baluchistan but the land is read with blood of baloch people.And you are talking about love we have seen your love my bro. People during operation are thrown out of planes. This is you love? Everybody knows that army is Punjabi dominated, seconds are pashtoons. You prefer to nuke Baluchistan( nuclear bomb test in chagui). Pakistan has made Baluchistan its nuclear dump. And if you talk about enemy, then our worst enemy is Pakistan, we should get rid of it as soon as possible, because Pakistan killed, tortured and abducted my people not Israel america or India. This is ultimate whoever will wound you is your enemy.And let me draw analogy here, Baluchistan is like Kashmir,Indian occupied Kashmir, Pakistan occupied Baluchistan. People of Kashmir and Baluchistan both were never willing to be part of India and Pakistan respectively, these are historical fact you can check them out. Human right violations are happening in Kashmir and as well as in Baluchistan. Women are being raped in Kashmir as well in Baluchistan. 150 baloch lady are still missing believed to be in the torture cell of ISI.And let me go clear here occupation solution is never autonomy or rights its liberation and i have given you internation prove that Baluchistan is occupied and all historical facts points this.Many people have lost their lives for liberation of their sweet land and now discontinuing the liberation movement would be betrayal to their dead soul. ON April 14 three ethnically baloch leader were martyred by Pakistani forces in turbat. There is one way to escape out of this killing and atrocities: Liberation. Viva liberated Baluchistan. Wsalam my Muslim bro.
Well Lal masjid is not in Punjab and the incident was disgusting but it was not of sort to prompt liberation feeling. Liberation feelings are trigged by Occupation and onward injustice. 90% of the baloch people is Baluchistan are poor, 62 years have past.NO need of PAKISTAN. IN DEPENDED BALUCHISTAN.
Thanks to great Almighty ALLAH, Baluchistan has vast resources and it can be the world most developed country in the world. See the condition, how pathetic it is, because Of Pakistan is.Most people are living sub human life. We are having no gas and you are running your industries with the same gas in Faisalabad. No need of Pakistan, just azad Baluchistan.
Why Balochistan is not developed because your Sardaars did not want it. Thats how a Qabali system works. The sardaars want you remain as dumb as you are showing yourself, so that they can easily control you. It is always easy to control sheep than smart people. Now don't put the blame on people on other arts of country. they have other worries than exploiting you.
If a country is getting gas from you, if a country is using a port, it doesn't mean it is exploiting you. Everything in a country is property of country unless it is made by people. Did you make ports, did you make gas? It is a gift from nature. These resources belong to country because its people are protecting these resources from outside forces. In wars, people from all over country gave their lives, so country resources belong to whole people. A tribal system throughout the history resulted in constant wars between tribes because there was no concept of shared common resources, and tribes were always fighting for resources. Was their any war between factions within any modern country? No. World has moved forward from tribal mentality but some dumb sheeps or pigs like you are stuck to that. You are enemy of your, of country you live, of family who depend on you, of people who you represent. SK baloch, you are babudaar gandi machli. I feel sorry for your existence and bad luck for Pakistan to have dumb fucks like you in it.
As far as you are saying industry in Punjab is using gas, yes they are using it because it is available. If it wont be available, they will turn to another resources. Human beings are very good at finding alternatives. it is one trait that make humans smart. Fusion energy can provide unlimited energy to move things in industry.We made fission already, we can also make fusion. If Pakistan wont use your gas, who you will sell it to? Iran? They dont need it. India? We will not fucking allow you. Middle East through pipe line? They don't need it. As I said, only use to have stupid gas will be that you will blow yourself in it because you will be starving and you will be thirsty. And when gas will run out, as it is not unlimited resource like an agricultural land, what will you do? Tell me. That's why I said, you are a curse for Balochi people. You will kill them all because of your stupidity. You think US jews will be more beneficial to you than your Pakistani brothers? Go to hell.
@Mr. For your kind information tribal system is only present in central Baluchistan and that too is losing.Recently there is not one sarder in bughti tribe. I have never lived under tribal society. The almost 80% of south west Baluchistan has tribal system in non existent. Turbat has not a single sarder, nawab yet on 27 September curfew was imposed in Mand, part of Turbat. Most of the baloch civil servant comes from the same area. Most of the people have middle class standard. The same people are leading in freedom movement because they understand. As far as gas is concerned, gas is not available 20 km off , and it has reached Gujrat and Faisalabad, what an extreme kind of justice wow? And about fusion energy you are still not up to that level to run energy giant with fusion energy. Bio fuel is extremely, and costly and until now it is not available for common use, let alone for giant one. Well why mr Akber bughti was fighting? Man he was Nawab, he has everything and everybody knows JWP was never separatist party, he was fighting for more oil and gas Royalty and for provincial autonomy. Whole Pakistan know Baluchistan gets less gas royalty than Sindh and Punjab."Present matters more than past and future". Presently World is jacking for oil and gas and we have larger share in this connection, around the world.As far as ignorance is concerned My observation says state of Pakistan has deliberately kept us uneducated. Ignorance is widespread among Baloch people, it is not just confined to few tribes. You are correct up to some level that Sarders are responsible. But state of Pakistan is more than them. The freedom war is no longer owned by Marri, bughti Mengal tribes. It is national war. I do not belong to these tribes yet I strongly advocated liberation of my land and my people as it was usurped.Baluchistan matter is not too simple, it relates to history too, not only exploitation. You go and read the history of Baluchistan too, sir to get better prospective of Baluchistan freedom movement.ISI has disappeared many educated people, among them many were student, doctor, engineer etc. It shows that war is not because of ignorance rather because of education. I have many educated friends, supporting this liberation war outrightly. This war is completely justified as many educated people are participant of it. Well I never said US is better than Pakistan, but I need to say here Pakistan is as bad as USA.Our experience with Pakistan is bloody. 4 operation, large scale massacre, random kidnapping as a show of state terrorism, and many more things. It is not war of tribes as Turbat is leading where there is no tribal society . Educated people completely support it. Well if you are so proud of your fusion energy and agriculture, then keep your country with you, remove the forces from occupied Baluchistan and remove the all settlers. Sincerely is enough we don't you and nor your country: Pakistan. So is the same is case with you then why all this mess. We don't need you as I said, you don't need us you said as reference of fusion Energy, then come on Man say Goodbye to each other. Why create more hatred among each other. VIva Independed Baluchistan. Your all claims are baseless, and they all are away from ground realities. You are just making far cry, sir. Let the sanity prevail. InshALLAH Baluchistan will be soon an in depended country. Wsalam your Muslim brother
"remove all settlers"
Then I propose the Baloch settleres be the first to go as they too settled on the soils of Balochistan at one time…the only difference being they settled 500 years before…they were not personally spat out by the soil of Balochistan…yet they were not meted out the same treatment by my Brahui ancestors as they do to the settlers which came after them!
Only 24% Baloch society is tribal in Baluchistan, 90% Baloch are poor. Sorry Mr your comments are biased and influenced by Pakistani and Punjabi media.Your comments have nothing to do with reality. Wsalam your Muslim brother.
As far as your smartness is concerned i am going to tell you, Pakistan has to call team from Singapore to extinguish the fire in sui walls. This is your smartness. HAHAH. Shazab Sharif the present CM of Punjab has brought lever machines from Germany, this is your smartness. You will extract energy from agricl agriculture products. How ridiculous it is ? Wake up man this is Pakistan, not Europe.Your country just depend on raw material, what it exports is just raw material. Its present GDP is 2%. HAHA .World lowest GDP.Pakistan has extremism, load shedding. And yes about USA.Don't know you are already slave of America.
Pakistan has dead economy. Pakistan has to debt$ 4 billion just for formulating its budget.Pakistan is continuously taking loan from IMF and world richest nations to survive economically.Your country is bankrupt. It is suffering balance payment crisis. Your PM himself acknowledged that Pakistan has survival threat.your country has already been broken in 1971, just wait for second break down. It is going to happen that I say based on present situation not out of my speculation.Viva in depended Baluchistan
Why world is not declaring Pakistan a terrorist state? Because world is mired in " war on terrorism" in which Pakistan is main stakeholder, therefore world is handcuffed to declare Pakistan a terrorist state. Otherwise All people know Almost all terrorist people spring out from Pakistan. Transatlantic bombing and Mumbai incident are clear-cut evidences. Pakistan has nothing good.The US expert panel has declared Pakistan" world most dangerous place on the earth" though opinion wary. News weak the world leading weekly magazine has said" The world most dangerous nation isn't Iraq, its Pakistan.: News week courtesy. @Mr bro you can keep your country with you, who needs it. Viva in depended Baluchistan.
Pakistan has murdered 2 million Bangladeshi Muslims raped more than lack Bangladeshi Muslim women. Is this Muslim country? Its law clearly show it is not. What kind of country it is, even I don't understand meaning of Pakistan? Israel has not killed 2 million Palestine Muslims, Pakistan has. Israel is bad country for sure, Pakistan is worst.
take your baseless exagerations meant to demoralize us and SHOVE THEM UP!
@ Mr. Let me allow close sui gas for 10 days, then sue how your industries are crippling as well as household. Man gas is drastic need of human kind. Gas is used on daily basis in house hold. Your whole country will be on roads protesting as being done now for electricity load shedding. Long live in depended Baluchistan.
@ Mr .so you asked me after liberation where we will stand in the nation of world. In the context of Balochistan, one would like to refer back to the 2015 NIC report. It forecast a Yugoslavia-like fate for Pakistan. The military operation that has been put in motion would further distance Baloch people from rest of the country. That perhaps is the plan. This brings me to an interesting observation in a book by Abul Maali Syed "The Twin Era of Pakistan-Democracy and Dictatorship" (1992). The caption of his First Chapter is 2006 and its opening para is as follows: "Who would have believed that Balochistan, once the least-populated and poorest province of Pakistan, would become independent and the third richest oil-producing country after Saudi Arabia and Kuwait". This is answer of your question. Enhance your study man. Long live azad Baluchistan.
The bolan river follows in Baluchistan coming out of mountain. It suffice for Drinking water man. And further more whole north Baluchistan(pashtoon belt) is surviving, even cultivating. Water their doesn't come from Punjab or sindh.They are using tube walls for same purpose. Keep your Pakistan with you. no need.
what makes you think the fertile pushtun belt will join your Azad Balochistan.or will you take it by force,as Baloch have a history of doing as the pushtun will certainly not be welcome…
Pakistan has been enlisted as 10th most failed state around the the World . An independent research organisation" fund for peace" has said Pakistan is top 10th failed state. Greetings. Pakistan is failed state and can fall any time around: Pentagon assessment.Pakistan fall is near. Just watch out. What is going to happen now.Long live liberated Baluchistan.
Pakistan is top failed state, says BBC. http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/. Who darns this failed state. Haha. terrorist failed state.No need of terrorist failed state. Long live Azad Baluchistan.
Sorry rather this is site declaring Pakistan top failed state .http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4964934.stm
How idiot of you to site a failed state from our enemies. It is not failed but it will fail as long as we have dumb bastards like you in it.
Your question to if we don't like you and you don't like us, why we are together, well my answer is, if you give a computer to a 3 year old kid, he will break it. Mature people make things, little kid break things. You have a brain of a small child thats why you are talking of breaking and that's only what your bhussa brain can think of.
You are curse for your own people. I bet if Balochistan will be made independent, you will end up smuggling weapons, smuggling heroine, produce opium for living. Your tribes will engage in endless fight over whatever minerals you got since you don't have any idea of federation and how to live peacefully in shared resources environment.
It will be idiot like you who will cause your population die with starvation. In the end, punjabiz will have to kill your hungry and starved people because they will all want to migrate to Punjab. Your economic system will be run by international Jews who will use all your future generations as their slaves, in return for providing security to your country. Off course they love to stay in your shitty place because they want to create problems for neighboring Muslim countries just like you are doing by being dumb idiot.
Fusion Energy is here. Electric car is here. Solar Energy is here. Fear for your future.
I forgot to mention, Electric Stove is here too. I don't see any need of Gas, right now it is used just because it is available. I have lived abroad in a country where there is no use of Gas at all. All stoves are run from electricity and all heaters are hot water system where water is heated in a district level central heating plants.
I suggest you start herding sheep, because that's only thing that can save you. You can have milk, wool, mutton from sheep and you can make your Sajji with them. Just giving this hint to idiot like you because i am sure you cannot think for yourself what is good for you.
Although i still think you are RAW agent because even Baluchistan don't have much oxygen, still I cannot expect such a dumb person like you. Please don't breed, if a father is so dumb, his children will be dumber
o my dear baloch brother,
let me tell you some facts about pakistani nation and pakistan but remember this will only 1st time that i will talk about provinces becasue 1st of all we are pakistani and then balochi, punjabi, sindhi or pashtoon.
now let me 1st tell you that you have spoken about sindhi or punjbai or muhajirs. i personally knew that there have been thousands of baloch people living in karachi. tell me if ever sindh govt ask them o you are balochi, leave our province?
i belongs from sialkot, the city of Iqbal. i knew in lahore there are lot of baloch people having their well established business. no one ask them that they are balcohi so leave punjab?
now come to your point about ISI,MI. my dear you showed the picture according to your own thinking. thats why you have your own concerns. i knew this has happend in balochistan but 1st listen carefully that the govt agencies are not mad or idiot that they start kidnapping to every one. when at the time of independance all provinces decided to live as single country under pakistan govt then govt estabilished its writ in whole of country. now after wards if some one says that oh, i dont wana live with pakistan then govt will force its writt.
your leader Nawab Akbar Bughti too was never against pakistan. he always spoke about the rights of baloch nation. now all political parties are also willing to give you the rights then what you need more?
you spoke about the punjabi people. let me tell you the fact that if punjab has taken more what it should be then it has also given sacrifice too. there were hundreds of thousands of MUHAJIRS came from india. who supported them? no one said that o we being punjabis have given sacrifice. every one considered it as a being pakistani national responsibility. the 1st war with india, the 2nd was again with india. who was on punjab border?
again now in sawat, hundereds of army solders were martrayed in sawat. they fought for pakistan.not for sawat. not for pashtoon. majority of them was from punjab. so ever punjab said that this was for punjab? no, we always talk about pakistan. think about pakistan.
before and after operation in sawat, still punjab govt had given 1 million matric ton wheat on daily basis. the IDPs were allowed to come freely in punjab in any where. did punjab govt or any punjabi said that, o punjab is doing.
i personlly knew a family in my neighbourhood who lost their meternal uncle then father and then their one and only single son in SIACHIN war with india. the guy was only 22nd year old. that family never said that we are punjabi. we lost our three family members for punjab?
even you have written baloch with your name. i knew many baloch people who have same suffix of baloch with their names.have you ever been seen any punjabi suffix?
my dear, you are always thinking your right on only 40% of country but I am giving you whole pakistan. why you think about only 40%?
let me tell you very clearly that if the pakistani people have ingored you at their end then you had also done nothing to take part actively as a pakistani. had you?
tell me how many punjabi leaders had ruled over pakistan?
our father of nation Quaid-i-azam was sindhi. Ayub khan was pastoon. Yahya khan was Pashtoon. Zulfiqar Bhutto was sindhi. Benazir Bhutto was sindhi. Musharraf was sindhi. have ever any punjabi or punjab govt said that we dont accept?
now come to balochistan. your arguments were more valid if any sindhi or pashtoon or punjabi has ruled over you. tell me in the last 60 years ever any non baloch was your cheif minister?
my dear remeber that if some one has concerns about his province or being ignored then this is not the way to demand independance. you must follow the legal way. me too never find job in pakistan. now i am in UAE. so should i also demand independance from pakistan govt? and if I do this then definately govt will force its writt by hooks or by crooks. weather i am punjabi or balochi or sindhi.
i have been actively observing the media reports. the most hot cake like news papers. they too say that there is ignorance for balochistan but no one said like you that ISI or MI had kidnapped some one else. these agancies take action only when some one goes against the country and they do it unbaisedly. they dont see that the accused person is punjabi or balochi.
Musharraf had kidnapped hundreds of punjabi guys so what should their families do? should they too start independance movement?
you are taking about international media. if you are not going so crazy then tell me while attacking on Iraq their intellgence reports showed weapons of mass destructon? where are they? they have killed 1.6 million muslims in both Iraq and Afghanistan. so can you rely on them?
you spoke about mumbai attacks. whole world knows that this was a very cheep drama done by indian intelligence but due to our bloody leaders they have pasted it on the faces of pakistanis.
you pasted the BBC links on this site. let me tell you my dear that these are the british who ruled over sub-continet. these british had created israel. they created kashmi issue. bosinia harzogovina. every where they killed muslims and you are rellying on their reports?
if you have read the history then tell me why they created Zamindars in punjab, Wadairas in sindh, Maliks in NWFP and Nawabs in balochistan?
if you are muslim and i am sure that you are then listen very carefully that this pakistan was established in the name of ALLAH and our beloved Prophit Muhammad (PBUH). so ALLAH is the caretaker of this country. no one will be able to break this country. this is a challange.!!!
now whole nation is with you for your rights. so leave your war of independance and work for the prosperity of your country. the whole country is yours. 100% whole country. you are trying to get only 40% but pakistani nation wana give you 100%. so whoes thinking is better?
@ Mr. What a funny argument. It is not failed state. See the state of your country. ISLAMABAD: Five people including two women and a foreigner were killed and four injured in a bomb blast at UN’s World Food Programme office, said Senior Superintendent Police, Tahir Alam Khan, here at WFP office while talking to journalists.
Suicide bombing are taking place every day. It is not failed state.No one is more stupid than Pakistani nation. Asif Zarderi is corrupt politician whole world knows it, yet the stupid Pakistani don't as they have made him their president. There is no talk of breaking something. Only parts are broken. Baluchistan is not part of Pakistan, it was just forcefully annexed By state of Pakistan, so there is no question of breaking. As far as future predication are concerned, I think no body but ALLAH knows about future. And Baluchistan is our land, what ever we do with it, its our problem. It continued to be in depended for 9 months, did any thing happened bad. None at all.We should based our comments on experiences not out of nowhere.Being Muslim we all faith that only God knows future. And about electric strove hahah. Electric stove is not as cost effective as gas stove nor it is as effective.Electric is here. I never said not a single electric car is present in Pakistan, there may be some. But they are not widespread and for common use. You can see petrol and CNG cars running commonly on the roads of Lahore and Karachi as well Islamabad.There is nothing concrete running out of fusion energy yet. Future God knows the best. There is still no automobile factory producing electric cars there are only just few agreements with USA AUTO MOBILE COMPANIES.No one was smuggling weapon, no one was smuggling heroin when Baluchistan was in depended from 11 AUGUST 1947 to 27 march 1948. It is just your biased and derogatory speculation coming out of nothing.Pakistan economic system is being run by international Jewish.Pakistan has extreme gross debt of IMF- the Jewish dominated organisation. The agreement with IMF brings economy of any country under the control of IMF. Well about the destruction Muslim states. Who gave air port to USA to bomb innocent Muslims in Afghanistan. Wasn't it Pakistan. Pakistan is major problem of Muslim world now. Furthermore we are not asking anything from you. We are just asking our land, that is our since 9 thousand years, and where we still do live. No need of this failed , Muslim enemy state of Pakistan. Viva Azad BALUCHISTAN.
@ With money and resources we can buy everything. We have gold, diamond, uranium oil gas etc. We trough them can buy flour and other needed things. No need Of PAKISTAN. I know what is good for me and What is bad. Long live Azad Baluchistan
@ Mr you are continually calling me indian agent so here is the link see with your eyes what Balochistani Baloch think about Pakistan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrMwD4jDC6s&fe… to conclude is you don't need gas and us, we don't need your agriculture products and you. Lets say Goodbye. Long live azad BALUCHISTAN
Hafiz bro Jazakullah khairan for your comments. First of all sorrily you are justifying the gruesome activity of kidnapping BY ISI, AND MI. It is too sad on your part. Well let me tell you in Pakistan there is law for everything even for anti-state elements.According to law you can keep culprit for 24 hours and then you have to produce them before court. If they are culprit, ok go and execute them. This is law of your country.Now who knows the people kidnapped are culprit or not since they are not legally convicted by the court. Disappearance is jungle law.It can not be justified. If the have done any crime, produce them before court as there is law for everything crime in Pakistan penal court.ISI and MI are running against the law of your own country called Pakistan.Because there is even policy of remand if you want more than 24 hours for interrogation.SO this your comments is easily refutable and unjustifiable.On the second point which you made is that" If all units agree to live under same umbrella say state of Pakistan, then state will try to enforce its writ at any cost, by hook or by crook. agreed. But this is not the case with Baluchistan. When all the tribal leaders were opposed to the merger of Balochistan into Pakistan, only Akbar Khan Bugti put faith in Pakistan and was a prime mover in Balochistan' s integration with Pakistan. We all know" majority is authority. All members of Kalat assembly except one were against merger of Baluchistan in Pakistan. As i already told you there was revolt in 1948 just after the merger of Baluchistan into Pakistan.So it is occupied land and is not has not willingly decided to live under the umbrella of state of Pakistan. State of Pakistan is force ably imposing its writ on us, as we were never willing to be part of it.As far as BBC is concerned. We all know BBC is world oldest and largest media outlet. When ever it publishes some news or story, somehow it may have biased in it, but truth is still there, as they are responsible for international repercussions which may follows after publication of the fake news or story. So your are saying that our own Baloch people are ruling us in Baluchistan. THR CHAIR PERSON of Pakistan HUMAN RIGHT COMMISSION have himself acknowledged that Baluchistan provinces is being ruled by ISI nd other such covet agencies in a show on geo television. Show name is 50 minute.The interior minister of Baluchistan himself acknowledged in public gathering that they have no control over anything. As far as Islamic republic of Pakistan is concerned. Ok Plz tell me Pakistan murdered 2 million Bangladeshi Muslim in Bangladesh, more than 3 lack Muslim women were raped by Pakistan in Bangladesh.Israel has not killed 2 million Muslims. You are killing those Muslims who are asking for sharia in Pakistan in swat and nwfp.What kind of Islamic country it is? It is not Islamic country.And as far as my bro you talk about break down, i must tell you it is not Islamic country ,ALLAH PAK won't protect it ameen. Remember the break down of 1971, had it been the Islamic country it would have never broken, but it did since it not Islamic country.IF state of Pakistan will systemically keep us backward, deprive us of education, how can we participate in anything. It is just mocking my bro. Further more if you say all people are united to give Baluchistan its right, then what is the problem. Go and declare completely autonomy for Baluchistan tomorrow. Lets the sincerity be judged by deeds not by words. Thses committees and packages are just trap and eyewash, nothing else. Because you and me know until now nothing has been done, only force is being used, as in all baloch belt of BALUCHISTAN , the paramilitary troops has been deployed.Until now nothing has been done nothing.Therefore i strongly advocate AZAD BALUCHISTAN.
@Haifiz bro. See with your own eyes who rules BALUCHISTAN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzpla4zOnas&NR…. Viva Azad Baluchistan.
@ Mr . If a toy is property of 3 year old boy, who the person are you to snatch that very toy from him,even though he is immature and you are mature. Toy is after all property of that child mature or immature. Whatever he does with toy, its his property, his problem, he will suffer the lose. You need not to worry. Viva azad Baluchistan
my dear baloch brother,
i am not supporting the act of ISI or MI. what i am trying to convey you is that ISI and MI has also kidnapped lot of pakistanis not only from balochistan but also from punjab and pashtoon area. even the movement of judicial reinstatement was the major cause of getting back those kidnapped people from these agencies. so tell me if that has only done with baloch people or with all pakistanis?
the other fact which you told me about bagladesh is totally wrong and shows your poor knowledge on this issue.
let me tell you about that fact. my grand father had spent his whole life in east paksitan. his business was in Dhaka and Chitakang. he had personally observed this drama. the killing of bangali muslims was not done by pak army instead those were street fighters on the paroll of RAW so called MUKTI BAHNI. what they used to do was to attack on pak army and police and then run away in streets. they get arms and ammunations and also used to rape muslim women and then made propagenda that pak army had done it. there was only one misunderstanding between west pakistan and east pakistan govt about the revenue circulation. whole revenue 1st collected by federal govt in karachi then disbursed to east and west pakistan institutions. now what those currept leader did that they get all funds from federal govt and put them in their own pockets and they crying again and again that federal govt in karachi is not releasing funds. still you can see the bangali nation that their standard of living has came down to worst level instead of improving. you can never ignore this fact. yes you can conceal it but the history can never be burried.!!
now come to your point about independance war. my dear the question of independance always comes where there is a war between nations not between leaders. this is very critical fact. what you have been talking about the independance of balochistan is infact war between leaders not between baloch and other nations of paksitan. i have told you facts about pak nation. living and establishment of baloch people in whole part of pakistan. baloch leaders in parlement. baloch people doing jobs in beuurcracy. in islamabad. every where. if you say that an illetrate baloch is not getting job in banks and other organizations then this is true. tell me how she can get job if they dont have proper education? tell me if any punjabi or other nation of pakistan got job without degree? you always talk about the funds. tell me the disbusrment of funds which have been given to baloch parlement in last 60 years? where they have been spent? who got them? you can never say that federal govt had not given you funds at all. yes you can say that you got less funds. but atleast what you got should be spent on baloch nation. govt had given you billions of funds for education. to your leaders. if they put those funds in their own pockets and didnt spent on baloch socity then whoes fault is this? yes you can claim that you got lesser funds but atleast you got some thing. so how you can say that baloch people have been deprived off from funds?
you can never compare the situation of indian occupied kashmir, then palatine and other wars including pakistan independace movement after with drawal of british with the baloch movement. follow the fects below.
the israel has forcefully occupied the palastine.
india has forcefully occupied the kashmir. if your history knowledge is good then recall your mind when DOGRAH ruler sold whole part of kashmir to british? did you remember that?
in balochistan case, yes they decided to live with pakistan. pakistan govt never forcefully occupied the balochistan. and what you talk about the other electrol about baloch leaders, tell me if they have ever done some thing for you? yes they are living in castels, wearing NAWABI style cloths, driving world's most luxiours cars, spending their holidays in london and paris. yes they will always demand their own territory. they need for their own living. not for the nation.
the balochistan movement can never be compared with that.
what so ever you have been demanding has included in balochistan package to be announced in coming days. so what your cocerns are remaining? and if you talk about the missing persons, then let me tell you that govt departments never release the persons whoes integrity is not realiable. if i am being a punjabi or any one being a pakistani goes against the intrest of pakistan then they will kidnapp us regardless of the nationality.
now i am going to tell you a very sore truth and i am afraid that after getting it may be you start abusing me. the fact is that baloch nation sold gawadar to oman govt. this is the one and only example in human history that a nation has sold its area to other country. after establishment of pakistan, the govt of pakistan purchased it from the govt of oman. tell me if this is true or false?
you have always been ignoring the facts about other nations in pakistan which i showed you in my last conversation. you didnt replied me about the punjabi nation sacrifices. you always talk about only your self. i have addmitted that there was ignorance and other mistakes but if you keep on saying and dont admit the actions taken for your betterment then this will never come to an end. tell me how much tax you have paid to govt of pakistan? what contribution you have done for pakistan? you have always been demanding from pakistan but tell have you ever been doing some thing for pakistan?
the universal fact is that you respect your parents because they do some thing for you. they give you birth. they support you in your whole life and in return what they demand from you? same you have done with pakistan. this country gave you identity in the world. this country gave you education, every thing. and what you are giving to this country?
go and read the history of the nations. there is one universal rule in the world to give and take. what you have given to pakistan? this country has given you atom bomb. the only one muslim country in the world. what you are doing for it?
you spoke about human rights comission in pakistan? yes they are agents of jews. they only see voilance in pakistan. they are unable to see voilance in indian occupied kashmir? they dont what indian RAW had done with SAMJOTHA EXPRESS in india? even indian minister of state had admitted that Col. Malhotra blowed fire on that train. 165 pakistanis were killed. no one cried in india. still malhotra is free and on job. why these human rights chairman is unable to see him?
in afghanistan, nato has killed thousands of childrens in air strick. why this comission cant see them?
infact they are getting funds from UNO and USA. so how they can go agianst them?
about BBC, agian tell me about their integrity? how many times BBC reporters went in palastine? in Kashmir? in Cha-chi-nia? in yogosalvia?
yes they go only in those areas where they can see the killing muslims. what Qura'an and Hadith says about them? they can never be our friends. this is universal truth….
@ Hafiz bro. Thanks. I strongly refute your comments that balochs want to be part of Pakistan. The Pakistan army landed on baloch land in 1948 to crush the freedom fight lead by khan abdul karim khan. The revolt was in April 1948, the merging of Baluchistan happened on 27 march 1948. There were only 3 to 4 people who want to merge with Pakistan. Kalat assembly has got few option that time around.1. To be part of Pakistan. 2-To be part of Afghanistan 3- To be part of Iran,4- To remain in depended. Now when the talk of being Muslim circulated, that since we are Muslim we should join Pakistan, then member of kalat assembly opined, why should not we join Iran or Afghanistan, as they are Muslim too. In kalat assembly the resolution came that stated" No merging with any state" and in depended state of Kalat state will be maintained. Get the facts and history straight.The case is exactly same with Kashmir. People of Kashmir area against India, balochs are against Pakistan, you can verify it through holding referendum, as Mr Bramdagh khan bughti has also given call of UN referndum in Baluchistan. Kashmire people are also asking for referendum. The case is 100% same.Well if you talk about gawader port, Nawab Akber khan bughti tried hard to get gawader back into Baluchistan, and about price, we have paid you more than you have paid for Gawader port trough gas revenue. Whole Baluchistan budget is less than just revenue earned by sui gas.Ans it is since discovery of gas. So we have paid you the money.And I am not talking about Asian human right commission, which is believed to be stooge of Jewish. I have given reference of Pakistan human right commission, this commission just report from Pakistan, it has got nothing to do outside Pakistan. Its chairperson is Pakistani Punjabi hailing from Lahore, miss Asma jengair. So your this claim is also wrong. And this shows Pakistani typical thinking: If anything is against us it has Jewish propaganda lol, typical Pakistani thinking. Further more i never said I am Pakistani or my identity is Pakistani. I don't need this identity. I am balochistani and baloch. This is my identity. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5338158.stm this is report by BBC about human right violation in Kashmir. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5338158.stm this is report of human right abuse by america. Bro don't be biased. They report about all. SO I feel strong need to deny your this charge too that BBC is biased. Mr bro. The war in Baluchistan is with Pakistan and its occupation.Its not even with single nation. And again i strongly say, this freedom movement is lead by educated people, who are neither influenced by Tribal system, nor are under influence of any Nawab or Sarder. As far as atomic weapon is concerned, Our land still bleed for this sinful act of state of Pakistan. Why Pakistan nuked Baluchistan? Pakistan made Baluchistan its nuclear dump.As far as packages are concerned, theses packages are old tactics by state of Pakistan, these packages are being proposed from 62 years since forceful occupation of Baluchistan by state of Pakistan. These are just eyewash. What is this word" coming days". DAYS ARE still coming though 62 years past.What i need is my the status of Baluchistan should be like as it was on 14 August. 1947. VIVA liberated Baluchistan.
kalat parliament??what does the kalat parliament have to do withh ALL of Balochistan?Kalat was just a tiny landlocked country surroundede by Baloch,brahui and Pathan regions that had ALREADY acceded to Pakistan!
And if you talk about Muktani banai. This is just Pakistani propaganda, just to defame Bangladeshi freedom fighter. I have met Bangladeshi People, Muktani banai enjoys widespread popularity among them.If they killed their own people, if they raped their own women, they from where comes this popularity? This was done by army, all international media and human right organisations say so. Get the facts straight. Wsalam My bro. VIVA AZAD BALUCHISTAN
We want more royalty on gas and gas is missing in NFC agenda. No need OF PAKISTAN. JUST AZAD BALUCHISTAN
When Pakistan has to test nuclear weapon, it does on Baluchistan, when ever it has to test missile, it does on Baluchistan. When ever it has to build firing range it build it on Baluchistan. No need of Pakistan. just Azad Baluchistan.
Which country nuked Baluchistan: Pakistan. no need of Pakistan. Just azad Baluchistan
Pakistan is terrorist state, and world should release that peace is not possible. Many terrorist are enjoying comfortable life in Pakistan. World should support Baloch freedom movement to restore peace in the world that has been snatched by Pakistan. Therefore it will be in america's own interest to put the name of Baluchistan again in Us immigration department, if it wants its citizen safety. We all know those who carried 9/11 has links with ISI nd Pakistan army. America plz add Baluchistan name again in immigration papers. Long live azad Baluchistan.
Pakistan nuclear weapon curse for world peace, not only for Baluchistan though it is the main and first victim of Pakistan nuclear bomb. Pakistan is threat to world peace. Its my appeal to all world to realize this threat coming out of Pakistan and seek out the solution for it. That in my opinion is to break Pakistan up. America must add Baluchistan name again in US immigration form.
o my dear baloch brother,
i am surprised to listen your coments. what i got from your arguments is that you are getting every thing in negitive sense. you said that pakistan govt is using baloch land for its bomb testing?
o my dear, would that these mountains were with us. would that chaghi mountain were with us. this was a great respect which pakistani nation gave to baloch land that chaghi mountains and balochistan name had been added in the history of pakistan for its neuclear bomb testing. would that it was with other land of pakistan.
come to islamabad, lahore, karachi and peshawer and see how the other provincial governments had made chaghi models in their cities. come and see the petriotic pakistani people homes the posters of chaghi mountains.
i am sorry to say that your thinking is too negitive.
now come to the point about east pakistan. i challange you in front of all pakistan that if you have any documentry evedence of so called MUKTI BAHNI movement as a hero for east pakistan. produce any documentry evidance to all pakistani nation. even the current govt of bangladesh have addmitted it as a terrorist movement for bangladesh and you are saying that they were heros????????
this is same like in the case of one baloch leader who is still in uk jail and not only govt of pakistan but also uk govt has declared it as terrorist and if you say that he is being considered as hero in balochistan then i am speechless..
now come to your other point about baloch movement. o my dear, listen very carefully that to decide that to which country you wana live is not the kids play that takes only one or two days to decide. recall your poor knowledge about the freedom history of pakistan that was started in 1940. this took 7 years. not one month. and in those 7 years, all baloch tribes fully supported that movement. i am talking with written proved evidence. if you wan see them then give me your e mail id or address, i can post you all that. how you can say that the so called khan abdul karim khan decided to live independently? and again if he was nawab of qalat then agian qalat was only district at that time not the whole of balochistan.
and if they decided and only Nawab Akbar Bughti influenced on them then why you pople dont abuse akbar bughti? in your opinion his act was cruelty for baloch nation. so why you consider him your hero?????
you said that the situation is same in kashmir and in balochistan. this shows you poor grip and knowledge on international and religious issues.
my dear i have already told you that freedom movement always starts when there is war between nations not between leaders. you didnt understand this. how you can compare indian occupied kashmir with balochistan? the kashmiries have been deprived off from there freedom. they are not allowed to go for prayers. they have been pisting to merge them in hindu socity. tell me if this has happend in balochistan? have you ever been stopped to go any part of pakistan except if your integrity is doubtfull? or if you are against the state. and if you do this in any country of world, they will crush you wheather you are from any nation.
you have spoken about asima jhangir. yes she is on the payroll of israel and india. i can prove this.
she always comes on media when there is some thing against pakistan. i ask you where she was when the history's worst earth quack killed 50000 people in kashmir?
why she cry when indian army kills innocent kashmiris in occupied kashmir?
why she didnt cry when in indian gujrat govt killed 100,000 muslims?
why she didnt cry when HISTORICAL BABRI MASJID destroyed by extremist hindus?
why she didnt cry when nato forces killed 123 innocent afghan kids in air strike just last month?
where she were when israeli army attakced with PHOSPHORIC bombs on poor palastinians?
where she was when american agencies kidnapped thousands of pakistanis in GAWAN-TANAMO and abu ghuraib jail?
she always goes india and dances with indian people. tell me will you allow any women to dance with any other?
if some one is right, we will support him regardless of nation and if someone is wrong then we will go against him regardless of nation. there is no way that she is from punjab so she is doing well. no way.
you told me that pakistan govt has law for interrogation from the pople whose integrity is doubtful and now there are lot of balochis in jails. tell me in U.S jails there are lot of pakistani and other citizens arrested from the last 10 years including U.S citizens too. tell where is the law? where are law enforcement agencies? should U.S states also start independance movement in USA?
and in last, i have requested to all my pakistani friends not to talk about the resources. we are here to listen each other. all resources are the property of pakistan. property of pakistani nation. property of that province where they have been. but agian your comments induce me to tell you sacrifices given by all nations in pakistan. i am punjabi but i never demanded from other nations in pakistan that electrisity has been generated in punjab so we are giving you.
you always talk about sui gas. tell me have ever been any nation demand you about electricity? have ever some one ask you that we have given you infrastructure?
just recently, federal govt has taken over your baloch govt debt of 10 billion pak rupees. have you admitted this?
you always talk about BBC. have you ever seen the documentry easy " dubai chalo " in bbc urdu?
what the reporter tells that in dubai there is pakistan association who have been giving funds to poor baloch families. have ever any so called human rights comissions showed this fact in media?
come here in dubai. i will show you baloch families here who got UAE passports. where were they when balochistan was ignored area? go to country OMAN and see almost half population is balochi. they moved from balochistan when govt of pakistan purchased gawadar from OMAN govt. where was their patriotic passion? where were they at that time?
now when govt of pakistan has put its resources for the development of balochistan then they have came a petriotic feeling? now when govt of pakistan has developed gawadar port for the baloch people. have you ever admitted this?
if you have given the gift of sui gas to pakistan then aslo pakistan govt has paid you. yes they have paid you less but atleast they have paid you and in return they have given you electricity. you cannot ever claim that sui gas was very expensive and so on…
and you always says that pakistan is terrorist country. my dear, remember one thing always that speak only when you have evidance with you. if you have evidance then send me on my below e mail id. i will prove here that who is terrorist.
hafizmubeenashraf@gmail.com
send me proofs on my this id? can you?
and again you are crying for american help for balochistan movement. i have already told you that jews, cristians and hindus will never become friends of muslims unless:
they change you religion to anti islam
or they wash your brain against islam
or they merge you in their socity in such a way that you never show yourself as muslim
these facts have been give in our religion. so how you can seek their help if you are a true muslim?
This is mind boggling. Everybody knows about divide and rule tactics of West, and everybody knows Jews want Pakistan to be further divided. And here this Baloch saying all the same things that Jews and west want. This idiot cannot see how much big crime he is doing not only to Pakistani nation but to Islam too. I think America has given some Balochi leaders a lolly pop that they will be the rulers if they become independent, with the condition Americans will be given presence in Balochistan. From here, they can stop Chinese and Russian access to Arabian sea, put a gun on heads of Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan. At the same time, exports few things that are available
in Balochistan. They must have given this lollypop to two or three tribal heads. They will choose the biggest tribe for leading the fight for independence and in the end chose the smallest to rule, double crossing the biggest tribe. This smallest tribe will always then depend on west for support to deal with internal or external threats. This is the story of Middle East after second world war.
In this situation, that small tribe will become rich no doubt about that and they will make slave all other people with guns supplied from west.
Balochistan is most interesting place for west to deal with Islam than Iran, because in Iraq they can only sit on head of Iran and Arabs, while in Balochistan they can sit on head of Russia, china, Iran and Pakistan.
There are two scenarios. One if Balochistan just become independent, and Americans leave. In this case tribes will fight against each other for ever like in dark ages. This is a disaster for Balochis.
In more likely scenario, America will have mlitary camp in Balochistan and in this scenario, and it will be disaster for Islam, Pakistan and Iran.
Dumbs fucks like sk-baloch unless he is representing some sardaar will always be loser.
from 1948 baloch peopel is faceing heardels from pakistani forces. When Pakistan has to test nuclear weapon, it does on Baluchistan, when ever it has to test missile, it does on Baluchistan. When ever it has to build firing range it build it on Baluchistan. No need of Pakistan. United naction is just a group it cant do any thing with pakistan. baloch peopel just want freedem. balochs will fight till death.
that is because most of the uninhabited land is in Balochistan .most of the uninhabited land is wasteland and otherwise useless.as there is n population for miles around humanitarian complications that arise from such tests were kept to a minimum.they chose their site well.
Aadil Baloch, if Azad Balochistan is so good for you, why India wants it and why jews want it?
Only way to save Islam in this region and to save Pakistan is to point out these small number of dumbs and kill them. It is easy to trace them with IP addresses. Coward politicians cannot do this. Only Army can do this to kill these small number of dumb fucks, because they are enemy of their own and of people of Balochistan. They will make Balochis suffer because now Pakistan buys Gas from them but if they become independent, Pakistan will not buy Gas from them. And Iran cannot buy gas from them. And pakistan will not allow gas pipeline through its territory to India. And russian states on other side of Afghanistan also have good reserves of gas. So who will you sell this gas, which can run out anytime as it is not unlimited?
The only punishment for stupid people is to kill them one by one. Trace down the Sk-Baloch, Abdil etc and kill them as soon as possible.
@ Mr.We are not few people, we are representing majority. If you wanna kill, then you have to kill almost 80% balochis living in Baluchistan.Furthermore How we will survive, who will buy gas from us, i think its not your problem. There is mindset problem with you Pakistani people. Fist you deprived baloch, then massacred them when they raised against this subjugation you called them Indian agents, the same thing you did with Bangladeshis. we don't need Pakistan. And if we will die in free Baluchistan, let us die, its not worry of you. My appeal to UN is to hold referendum in Pakistan occupied Baluchistan to let balochi people determine their future.Who wants to live with country having multiple blasts in one day. Keep your country with you. We don't needs this failed state. And you need not to worry about us, its our problem.
We just want to save our people from people like Mr and other such who want our land not us. SUI, where gas is discovered is still lacking gas itself, leave me house which is 25 km off SUI. Nothing can be more injustice than this. And well you talk about injustice, is this what Islam taught us. How many innocent this barbaric country of Pakistan has killed. Massacre in Bangladesh,ongoing slow motion genocide in Baluchistan, you call yourself Muslim, at the same time you kill innocent non-combatant Muslims. Pakistan is not MUSLIM country, it is black spot on Islam. Islam is used here just as tool to loot other people's resources and exploit them. Pakistan is already dancing on the directives of America, it is slave of america. It takes loan from other countries to survive. such a pity country on whose laugh everyone.Sorry i am feel for this torn apart country. It has not iota of goodness. Long Live azad baluchistan.
Show the numbers you claim of Balochiz who want to be independent.If you are not part of tribe as you already mentioned, you are nothing. As power resides with tribes in a tribal society. And it will be endless fights between them as was in stone age. Why gas is not in your home, what you think is a big conspiracy on parts on Punjabis, is actually stupidity of yourself, or incompetency of you. I bet your MPAs and MNAs have got funds but they didnot want to spend on you because they wanted to keep idiots like you ignorants so that they can control you like sheep. There are big countries in world and in order for such large group of people to live peacefully together, they must exhibit big heart, open mind and wisdom, and not the me me me all the time. If everybody in world is like you, no more than 5 people can live in an entity, because your Bhussa small brain cannot manage to live with others. People work hard for things and get things. It is not anybody's right just to give them for doing nothing.
I bet SK you are a big loser in life. What degree you have? what are your achievements in life? What is your level of education? What contribution you made to your society? what inventions you made? What organizations you managed and run successfully? What is your special skill that is in value and in demand?
I bet if you are a hard worker or achiever, you would not be asking rights for you all the time. If you are smart, go build the hydrogen car and sell it and earn your living.
You wont need rights for that. You dont need to be separate from Pakistan for that?
Well First I am giving you prove that i represent majority. Here is the article written by Pakistani journalist hailing from Lahore. After all the meetings, it was starkly clear that a very vast majority of the Baloch people, if not all, desperately wants independence from Pakistan. The widespread wall chalking like ‘Azad Balochistan Zindabad‘ and ‘Pakistan Murdabad‘ in the capital city of the province says it all. this is extract of said article. here is the site of it.
http://www.pakspectator.com/baluchistan-as-i-saw-… . Well if you read more you will come to know there are two rulers in Pakistan, one so called politicians who claim to be real ruler in fact they are nothing. They are just puppet. The real stakeholder of country that is called Pakistan is civil and military Establishment. Now 54% from Punjabi are in this and 30% Pashtoon. we are only 4to5%. So what this meager percent can do anything. And well i am loser or whatever, I am not asking anything for me, nor i will live alone in Republic of Baluchistan. I have everything. Car, house to live and decent living, but my People are poor. And don't tell me your MNAs and MPSs are angel. I am taking about Baloch people , not about myself.Tribal society i think you have tribal phobia. Tell me who is tribal Sarder in Mekran? Who is Sarder in Turbat. Paramilitary operation is going in Whole Mekran belt.Who instigated them?. They are not tribal people. I am against tribalism. But here is comment of veteran baloch leader Bram dagh Bughti.28 Sep 2009 … I will go with whatever form of government the people of Balochistan want, Brahmdagh Bugti says. — File photo …. Our country name is" Democratic republic Of Baluchistan". Not Sarderi republic of Baluchistan" Mekran is already with Sarders. Only 24% baluch society in Baluchistan is tribal.InshALLAH with passage of time we will also remove off this percentage. Tribalism is not problem, Pakistan is. VIVA" Democratic republic of Baluchistan"
I am not asking anything for me. I am asking for the prosperity of my people which is not possible with Pakistan. Baluchistan is least developed in Pakistan, Baloch the most poor, even 62 year have past. So our prosperity is not possible With Pakistan. We thereupon direly need a country for our people well being and for our people well fare. Long live Azad Baluchistan.
What is the meaning of Pakistan? Pakistan has no meaning. France is country because of French Nation, Germany is country because of German Nation, Japan is country because of Japanese nation. What Nation Pakistan is? Nation is something which have language, culture, tradition, history and background. We have all this. Our fight is according to UN charter and history triggered and injustice triggered. WSALAM.
Only ten percent or rural women receive schooling in Balochistan.
However, many people in Balochistan believe the issue is more complex. They blame the lack of development and extreme poverty on the authorities and accuse them of failing to grant the province control over its considerable natural resources. Balochistan contains 90 percent of the country's natural gas.
No need of Pakistan. Long live Azad Baluchistan
@ Mr. You are talking about gas payment, HAHA. You are making us fool. Baluchistan per day gas revenue is $7 million. It gets $70 million per year. Just 10 day gas revenue. Where is the payment of 354 days? With PUNJAB AND NWFP. wHO THE HELL are they to come on our land. They have no right to be on our land. They must leave Baluchistan.Or putting specifically, baloch dominated areas of Baluchistan. Long live" Republic of Baluchistan"
Nothing but freedom from Pakistan would pacify Baloch people : Brahmdagh Bugti. Only Azad BALUCHISTAN
SK first i advise you to think before you speak. Your comments span in several pieces that shows you push the submit button, then some other stupid thing comes into your mind and you write it down and then spend another button and so on.
As for you telling me who are rulers, off course I am not you dumb fellow not to know it. And it is stupid of you to call them rulers. Civil service people are managers. There is a difference between ruler and manager. Times when there used be rulers is gone and only history. Only dumbs like you think there are still rulers who are robbing you of some manuu salwa that is your birth right to be delivered right in front of your home everyday. Only such dumbs feel proud and want to base their whole economy on some stupid phenomenon that occurs under the ground between earth plates. I salute those people who found a good use of this gas, devise a process to mine it, transport it, store it and then invent uselfulness of this gas. All the credit goes to them. If you have any brain it is not difficult to see, but dumb sheeps like you cannot understand this.
There is a CSS exam for people who want to enter into civil service. If you have brain, go and compete with others. Dont ask for quota or some other loser approach. I think there is now a quota for exam in CSS for Balochistan people which is clear declaration from you that we are dumb and we cannot compete, so please let us in. You stupid beggar and loser. Go and compete with other humans. If you thinking that a job of a government SERVANT is to rule the country, then go to hell. A dumb idiot like shoudn't be allowed to even sit in CSS exam because they are supposed to be smart people. If you don't have a brain, and you are a loser, don't blame in on others. It is life. smart people progress and dumb lose. This is a fact of life. we whole Pakistanis can weep that give us rights, we don't have any Bill Gates. Yes we lose in that particular field. We couldn't invent computer. So what we do now? Start weeping like you?
There is a Balochi restaurant near my home. what should do? Go and tell them what the hell they are doing here? Should that action be dumb, idiotic, uncivilized. Jahil action? For sure. I don't know how a dumb fuck like you can get a house and a car. You deserve only to herd sheep.
Do you think dumb idiots like you can prosper on your own? As I told you, your Gas revenues are only due to Pakistan. You don't have any other customer. And Gas is not unlimited. It can run out anytime.What will you dumbs will do?Start smuggling?Start growing opium?
You have no idea of how to live in Federation. You jahils are not educated and now rest of people have to pay for your stupidity. Every big asset that is discovered is property of Pakistan and people of Pakistan. We are using the gas and you are using many things (railways, internet,roads etc) that Government of Pakistan has built for you. So mister, if your people are poor, it is not punjabis made them poor. It is their own deeds. If you sit on a land that is not fertile, only chance you have is to do inventions and make products. Or develop services. Develop tourism. Gas is property of people of Pakistan. It is given by God. It is not created by your hardwork. And it can run out anytime. If you get seprated from Pakistan(only possible with war with Pakistan Army, and offcourse India will help you), then Pakistan will never buy your gas. do the math you stupid idiot and tell me who will you sell it? And also what will you do when it will run out? Pakistan will not give you even a single grain of food. Look at Africa. They have high temperatures like you have and barren lands like you have. Food growing is not possible there. Their life is miserable. Look at Ethopia to know how nice it is to starve. I told you electric stoves are available in market. And so are electric heathers.And in near future fusion plus hydrogen plus nuclear energy will be wide spread. So we can survive without gas. You land and temperature and water availability is poor. I feel bad to repeat this thing to you because i think you are retarded, but hopefully some other wise people will read it and understand it. Without hard work and smartness, you will only lose in life and blaming others for this is simple stupidity.
I didn't say our MNAs are angels, you dumb just didn't get my point. Funds are given to each MNA for regional development and if your area don't have gas, your MNA is responsible for this, not a punjabi MNA. So go to this home and beat his door, rather than raising slogans of independent Balochistan.
Don't insult the Baluch…they are like the rest of us but are just being mislead and mentally exploited…