Mai Jori, a ‘Peasant’ Contesting Baluchistan By-elections

Mai Jori Jamali a peasant farmer belonging to a village called Ghulam Muhammad Jamali in Baluchistan filed to contest the bye-election on the vacant seat of Baluchistan Assembly PB 25 Jaffarabad – I on March 10th 2010. Her papers have been accepted and declared correct after scrutiny. Mai Jori is illiterate and helps her husband in farming she also looks after her nine children. She brings water for the family after traveling 2 km distance and was shot into prominence in 1978 due to Pat Feeder Kisan movement when progressive and trade unions leaders had started living in the Goth area for the sake of movement.

Mai Jori is contesting from the area which was recently brought into focus for the infamous and heinous crime against women where a few women were buried alive in 2008 in a case of Honor Killing. Mai Jori Jamali is contesting election on party ticket of Awami Party Pakistan.

It is being reported that Mai Jori and her relatives have taken this decision to dare to fight with outdated customs of women brutality in the region.

Awami Party leader Ramzan Memon said that “Mai Jori will prove that politics even election politics is possible with money and high level patronization. Mai Jori will lead the long march by foot from village to village as part of election campaign against Pajeros and high level influence. They also demanded from the government to ensure enabling environment so that Mai Jori can feel herself safe during election campaign and in future too

Naturally an election campaign requires some level of funding and a collection has already been initiated from the voters of the constituency while a strong appeal is being made to democratic and progressive people for their support and contributions. Simultaneously a more recent effort is being made to gather a list of potential volunteers who would help in the monitoring of a free and fair polling day.

Her effort to rally electoral support kicking off with a door to door Haqooq March [Rights’ March] on 1st March to the 8th of March where she and fellow women colleagues will walk through a number of villages this on immediate impact shows the courage of women to break one major traditional taboo about woman’s mobility in the area

I believe that Mai Jori deserves our unconditional support from every where in the country and abroad it will give inspiration to other women irrespective of their political affiliation to come forward and resist and break free from various heinous customs and traditions used against women, like Karo-Kari and honor killing amongst many other issues


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  1. Observer Avatar
    Observer

    Good to see, but nothing will change in Pakistan since we have corruption all over the place. Be it army, politicians, businessmen, bureaucrats etc. The majority are all corrupt.

    Maybe only a bloody revolution can save Pakistan….just a reflection.

  2. sogul Avatar
    sogul

    Awesome that there are brave women out there in PK, especially Baluchistan…women who are trying to fight the brutality that is being exercised on women in that region. Cool to see that ordinary people without name/money/fame/sardari status fighting for their rights in the corrupt political ssytem of PK

  3. farhan Avatar
    farhan

    Observer,

    I agree with you. When those poor women were buried alive and when the journalists reached the village all the men were defending the culprits…

    I don't see any change. Only a bloody revolution can change these. But who will bring the bloody revolution? Our (Na)Pak Army and our politicians kill any real leader right away. Only c_h_u_t_o_o_s make it to the top, be it the army or the political parties.

  4. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    You people are the best in making castles in the air from the rubble of realities.

    lets see her actual profile.

    She was an illiterate.

    she has 9 children and more might come.

    She goes miles in her working day to get water for her family.

    She belong to poor peasant family.

    Now see the true realities of Area she belong.

    Baluchistan is one of richest province of Pakistan in national resources.

    Its all members in provincial assembly more than 50 , mostly are richest men of Pakistan.

    These are same members who once fully supported Musharraf and then took no time to be adopt zardari as new god father in few hours of election.

    They still live in master slavery culture which was almost more than 100 years old it mean their life span is still 100 years backward to real dates.Almost all sardars are involved in human smuggling,drug trade, arms deals and extreme brutality to handle their peasant culture and women folk who tried to rebel from their man made laws.

    Our last ex education minister zubaida jalal a richest lady of Baluchistan had left very bad repute in education department and even nothing significant in education was seen while she was holding his ministry and no doubt lot of funds have been generated by US based company to support education program in her tenure.But most of it gone to wrong hands and people of Baluchistan are still suffering which is their fate for last centuries.

    So there is no harm of supporting her but present circumstances of extreme lawlessness wouldn't support her what we educated class are thinking while digital commenting like that.

  5. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    is this incident in overwhelmingly corrupt society have any significance? i don't think so. ultimately we shall need a genuine revolution and most probably a bloody revolution(genuine). we have lost my hopes for soft revolution through independance of judiciary. it seems that almost every one in pakistan is a slave of his own vested interests and these vested interests are gaurded by the extreme,brutal and shameless power.so…. how the genuine change will come? and more importantly by whome? this question gives me a real headache.

  6. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Dr khan

    Again sickness is dominating factor in your weak personality after seeing acute disorders of society.

    In my opinion weak people should leave this senseless society which is waiting for some kind of revolution or moderate changes through media and judiciary.

    I think Mai jori is much stronger human than me or you who even has courage to fight against her odds.How long no body knows but there is no harm of giving her projection and unconditional support in hall of feudalism where such candles are still burning as symbol of hope and change in coming days.

  7. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    it is because you live in the world which is 2 inches above the real world.

    on one hand you advise others not to be idealistic in the matter of judiciary but on the other hand you see a miracles by the birth of a little fish in a water filled with thousands bigger fishes,sharks and crocodiles.

    WAKE UP LADY…we are not discussing the pedicure.

  8. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Dr kahn

    I really want to live 2 inches of above the bitter world so that my high spirit remain lively and encouraging. I try my best that nothing worst done by others can affect my routine life styles in highly charred environment of Pakistan.

    Following the concept of fair judiciary is my little dream in real life which I must try to preserve for my next generation, other wise they would take minutes to fly away from this country of hypocrites and cheaters.

    It is your visualization by thinking the miracles of birth of little fish in pool of monsters.

    My perception is different to you , each resistance, good act or any positive attitude against corruption and prevailing anarchy can be proved a first droplet of rain successfully drop from saturated clouds.

    For your kind information pedicure is very healthy activity for people who always engage in strenuous activities.

    This healthy activity is very therapeutic for some other sicknesses like headache and nausea and stomach ache too.

    So there is no harm you can also try for it.

    Any more desi medical help you require from my knowledge cells???

  9. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    My perception is different to you , each resistance, good act or any positive attitude against corruption and prevailing anarchy can be proved a first droplet of rain successfully drop from saturated clouds.

    __________________________________________________________

    Fallacies madam! Fallacies. We are in a dead trap just like a marsh. more you try to come out more you start drowning.

    in a dead trap every step leads to disaster. Every law causes more corruption. Every penny spent on fixing the mess becomes wasted. Because every kind of corruption becomes a fashion and corruption begets more corruption.

    look the people around you…do you find masses who sincerely need change…do the people want to vote other than PPP,PML(N), MQM or ANP?

    we live in a country where an educated and talented common man use all his energy, talent and knowledge to justify the wrong doing of his leader….FREE OF COST.

    we live in a country where top state functionaries and officials keep their price tags on their foreheads. Where people are more affiliated with their institution and party than the country because their institutions and party help them in plundering the money. We are ourselves the biggest enemies of this country.

    Making schools is a constructive job but in a dead trap it creates more problem….how? l

    Think of making one thousand new schools, colleges and universities in Baluchistan.

    Do you think it will be a positive step for Pakistan? Of course not…because more colleges and universities means more angry, frustrated and talented youth with strong separatist tendencies. Constructing educational institution will breed a generation of separatist movement equipped with education and understandings. Why? because the corrupt Pakistani civilian and military establishment don’t want to give them their rights.

    I have no problem consider Mai Jori as a fresh drop of water but what I see is the drop of water fallen down in a scorching sunlight in a month of july

  10. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Dr khan

    You are not wrong about the real tension filled situation in Baluchistan but ignoring my first comment which has same theme as you are describing.

    No university and college can bring change unless you give justice to majority as per their demand and local culture.

    They are orthodox people and not in mood of accepting the laws made in comfortable offices of Islamabad or behind locked bureaus of ISI.

    Give them their share in economic empowerment which is only concentrated among few people and group for last 100 years.

    Mai jori like people are badly in need of support to mange normal way of living their backward area.

    NO big science is involved for solving their basic needs but as we are custodian of ill will intentions so all efforts of courageous people go to dead end after some resistance.

  11. farhan Avatar
    farhan

    Aunty Nazia,

    I agree with Dr. Jawwad and observer, things will not improve unless there is a bloody revolution, a bloody revolution that would wipe out all the corrupts.

    How can there be funtional judiciary when our President is a murderer and all the goons are there to support him.

    And on the other hand, our Commander in chief is a pimp, who would sell his mother if the price is right.

    Our politicians beg to *be the chosen* one..

  12. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan
    1. guYsir Avatar

      Did anyone check this news?
      http://i-wanna-rule-the-world.blogspot.com/

      no bumpkins are allow only adepts who wanna be happy-Nations instead of halluci-Nation and also who wanna be sole-super-power instead of sole-superfluous power.

    2. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Indeed very shameful.

  13. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Chutto farhan

    Naughty kids should restrict to their age group but as you are all time busy in jabbing on elders discussion so I have to handle you as per your immature mind.

    if same thing can be happened in smooth way through the help of media, judiciary and common educated people than why we should think of bloody revolution.

    You see after announcement of Pakistan and India, we have some glimpses of such blood acts in which no one killed the real culprits but all resourceful and opportunist people hide themselves in safe areas and positions and give arms supply to trained gangsters and killers for creating scenes.Here the dead people are not culprit but innocent citizens and all feudal, opportunist who got land,position and money from British/Indian rules occupied the positions in Pakistan and India too.

    If you come and see In Pakistan get the data who are armed with modern weapons and they are all time ready to bring that bloody revolution.

    These are religious fanatics, feudal land lords, land grabbers, drug mafia, working generals or black money holders so when they would make start of this bloody revolution as start of change first they would safe themselves and their family and let us to die like rats of streets through angry mob.

    So there is no harm in becoming a first droplet which might evaporate through hot sun but this way one can be reason of silent rain or sunny day of extreme cold winter for bringing change in harsh circumstances.

    Any thing enter in your little mind or it evaporates too??

  14. sogul Avatar
    sogul

    I know that one person can't change that much in our devestating corrupt society…things look unfortunately so bleak….

    I don't know much about revolutions just the fact that revolutions are built on the people – the collective- perhaps by supporting one person we will encourage others that are like her to come out and hereby provide a beacon for change. Let's support this woman!

  15. Shakil H. Jafri Avatar

    That's great at least some people are trying to make waves in this stagnant atmosphere my best wishes and whole hearted support to Mai Jori

    I am the editor of a business newspaper The Financial Daily and will publish this whole story in Monday's (March 01,2010) issue. Can I get the photograph of the lady from any one?

    1. Media cell for Mai J Avatar
      Media cell for Mai J

      Dear Jaffri Sahib,

      Please send your email id so that I may send you her photograph

      mai.jori@yahoo.com

  16. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Dr khan

    Your reference and mentality of our PM is showing us new kind INNOVATION in your medical field.

    Rickshaw maternity service is best solution of our problems arising due to VIP routes .

    You doctors should now design rickshaws medical service on the basis of modern gynecology operating tables in minimum space and other related facilitates to gyne and Obs in Rickshaws.After hearing the reward of 5 lakh now our ladies would prefer to use this service as no body is looking ashamed of his inhumane acts which is affecting the large number of people on the roads.

    If Our PM(a public representative) was responsible of his low IQ retort then what would you say to big laugh of audience of this meeting which was heard after his pathetic joke.

    Senseless nation can only produce benumbed leaders and we deserve it.

  17. farhan Avatar
    farhan

    Aunty Nazia,

    Your wish is similar to a sufi buzurg who prayed that the safest way was to pray that the Shaitan be dead.

    In a similar way you are hoping that media would play an important role in paving way for soft revolution, what is your soft revolution ? Softcore porn? if thats what you are talking about, then good news for you, its already on the way.

    Media outlets are just another part of our society and the motto of us all is to make money. The ethics and rules all like in the book, who would follow the book in the race for grand wealth accumulation ?

    So go ahead, and keep beleiving in tooth-fairy tales and hope that if the whole nation starts to believe in tooth fairy, the tooth fairy would come.

  18. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    No chuttoo

    Devil never died from outer world nor from core of our heart and would live with us throughout our lives.

    I am not hoping but media is actually playing role for better changes in the weak system.

    Soft core porn is part of civilization since start of process of evolution.None of any civilized govt can even stop its flow in their organized society so how we illiterate nation can control it.Impossible!!!

    Media outlets cover all parts of life and vast technology is required to convey live and active message to masses.

    It is an industry and only run through money and in return also generate money and employment for educated and technical people.

    Ethics and rules are set by society and our major media groups are trying its best to fulfill the necessity of local culture.This is the attraction created by our media that has developed sense of political and social awareness in common street people whose knowledge in past was only limited to newspaper coverage.

    Since the time of Zia and start of evolution of Taliban culture in our system, my nation has stopped believing the tooth fairy tales.When ever we try to see beautiful dream, a long beard horrible terrorist come and exploded our dreams in a second and take us in real life which is life threatening and tending toward more destruction in coming days.

    Rest of dream life has been lost due to lengthy load shedding and high inflation rate due to worst govt polices.

    We are no more interested in tooth fairy but only interested in getting rid of evils and evil like characters which are handling our presidency and military matters.

    The day we would be successful in showing them mirror in public places,I am sure devil would leave the area and go for new destination.

  19. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    .When ever we try to see beautiful dream, a long beard horrible terrorist come and exploded our dreams in a second and take us in real life which is life threatening and tending toward more destruction in coming days.

    ______________________________________________________

    yeh thats right…

    taliban are a worst nightmare of all liberals and pseudo- muslim moderates.

  20. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    You are feeling well as it looks that you have read my comment to end without feeling nausea.

    Medicine is showing positive signs to chronic disorders.

  21. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    i read because i saw an interesting discussion was going on between you and our angry young man @farhan(angry because of your frequesnt large posts)..otherwise who has time?

    1. Nazia Avatar
      Nazia

      Dr Khan

      Thanks for saying my nauseating discussion an interesting reading piece for you.

      My lengthy posts are indicator of my talkative nature and no way come in circle of frustration.You are unaware that when chatty people are angry or feel humiliated, they stop talking to that particular person or group.Sometime complete silence till death as a mark of showing anger to aggressive and abusive person.

      Keep this thing in mind before talking to voluble personalities.

  22. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    oh yes i own my comments.that is what i am, a religious fenatic but what about you aren't you changing your stance?

    1. Nazia Avatar
      Nazia

      I am not labeling you a religious fanatic and if you are then it is none of my business in this world.But tell me where you would select your grave as it is my will to my kins that never put me near to any fanatic after my death.

      I really want to enjoy my peaceful period after death.

      Nobody knows there souls of fanatics again trying to take away our peace of mind as they are doing in our little life span in Pakistan.

  23. Rug Pundit Avatar

    Accolades to her for standing up!

  24. jibran Avatar
    jibran

    khala Nazia,

    ohh yeah blame it on Zia and Taliban. I guess I would have to agree with you because there is no other way to live…

    Pakistan was prospering before the Zia Era…

    – Pakistan wasn't broken into two pieces by our *kaley angrez*

    – Industrialization was going at full steam…and hence no nationalization of educational institutions and industries took place….

    Yeah, now I get it.

    Tablibans and Mullahs are responsible for breaking up Pakistan.

    Talibans and Mullahs were in bangladesh and MujeeburRehman was also a Mullah and Taliban.

    On the other hand Bhutto was another long bearded Taliban who didn't accept the majority rule and didn't offer Mujib-ur-rehman (another Taliban) the right to rule.

    It was Talibans who killed the industries by nationalizing them.

    It was Talibans who nationalized and hence destroyed educational institutions.

    The list can go on and on to list the crimes of these long bearded Mullahs.

  25. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Cute nephew

    you are mentioning two different things in one way.

    One factor is Materialistic loss due to war situation and poor political decisions of rulers.

    Second one is linked with articulation of false faith for western interests wihtout seeing its compliance with local culture in deprived areas of Pakistan instead of giving them economic development.

    Bhutto and our khaki angrez before 1971 had given us materialistic losses which could be recovered through good policies but it depends on intentions of designers and managers only.

    Its aftereffects were short termed and affected only small area of Pakistan.

    Zia regime had developed a frustrated and distorted faith from grass roots level and now it has been turned to cover the large area of Paksitan by putting on stake the sovereignty of Pakistan.

    Nation can build up after war, division and its latest examples are EU, Germany, and Korea etc

    but the countries where faith is used as destruction tool the effects are seeing in next generations with more horrible scenes of previous regime.Iraq, Iran, Russia and now Pakistan are live examples of hitting countries like that.

  26. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    I am not labeling you a religious fanatic and if you are then it is none of my business in this world.

    __________________________________________________________

    Actually i said this in response of @Amir Mughal against his comments on NRO issue and wrongly posted on this page.

    this is the reason why elders always advise not to talk to much. …..hahahhahaa

  27. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Your elders also forget to tell you that always put your things in right and particular places so that no misguidance like scene is created in routine life .

    Nothing to laugh but rectify your mistake!!!

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar
      dr jawwad khan

      lag gaee kiaaaaaaaa??? hhahahahahahahahahha

    2. dr jawwad khan Avatar
      dr jawwad khan

      @Nazia,

      My apologies…i didn't mean to hurt your feelings. situation created unintentionally.since now i shall try my best to avoid comedy. please carry on.

    3. Nazia Avatar
      Nazia

      Dr khan

      what is lag gaee in your pathetic joke.

      I am still unable to understand your poor sense of humor.

      There is no need of any kind of apology as I haven't sense any thing deplorable in your attack.

      if you have some poor innate sense of humor or laugh then it is not your fault to express beyond your approach.

      So don't worry nothing can hurt me even your comedic sense if it start pinching your guilt unintentionally.

    4. dr jawwad khan Avatar
      dr jawwad khan

      ….peace…

    5. Nazia Avatar
      Nazia

      Dr khan

      Peace and disturbance are characteristics of individual's mind.if people are predisposed to be more aggressive or more criminal by their genetics or acquired behaviors,there are maximum chances that peace of surrounding would be disturbed through their acts if something is not done as per their desires.

      For balancing this system Peace keepers are also designed for each system by nature, who know very well how to handle this peace distorting elements of system.

      Along with maintaining peace it is also responsibility of peace keepers to keep realizing the agitators that human and humanity survivals are only dependent on peace and harmony of system.If anyone lose its peace of mind , it leaves cold distress and miseries in surroundings.It ends on no win game and all participants suffer permanent deprivation.

      So choice depends on nature of human minds who are controlling situation.

      You see Mai jori like illiterate woman can think of serious change through peaceful demonstration but our educated class in bureaucracy and military is all time busy in distributing the disturbances for majority for gaining personal benefits for themselves and their families only.

  28. Observer Avatar
    Observer

    People making a lot of different relationship 😉

    I tend to agree with Farhan. Though I admit that thee media at times plays a positive role, but the media also back stabs a lot. Take for example Hamid Mir in the case of a last night program to defame Sheikh Rasheed. I am not a Sheeda Talli supporter, but one has to be fair. If Hamid Mir had to anything like that he should also have included ALL the other candidates in the "analysis". We also had the case of numerous anchor person attending a party at the American embassy. That was disgraceful too.

    As mentioned I am beginning to loose hope. I still hope we can have a soft revolution (my heart feels so), but my brain says that will not happen. My brain says that with all the corruption in the PAK society we might have a bloody revolution – otherwise we will not survive as a nation. If the people don't stand up one way or the other it is only a matter of a relatively short time, then Pakistan will be no more as we know it today….God forbid!

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar
      dr jawwad khan

      agreed

  29. jibran Avatar
    jibran

    khala nazia,

    No don't go around hoolahoops.

    Admit it, what was the biggest fiasco of Pakistan?

    Is it not the breaking up into two different countries?

    Who was responsible for it? The mullahs or the Bey-Deen, Kaley Angrez? on both sides of Pakistan.

    And even in the current situation, do you think its Mullahs who have taken the country to this situation?

    So I guess, Mullahs are running Baluchistan Liberation Organization.

    Its Mullahs who are running MQM and ethnic cleansing of Pathans in Karachi.

    Its Mullahs who are saying "Pakistan Na Khappay" in all over sindh.

    Yes go disillusioned again and blame it on Zia's frustrated and distorted faith.

    You know, the moment UNO comes to Pakistan to hold the referendum in Baluchistan and Sind and now NWFP, you would see the sovereignty of Pakistan up in fu@kin smoke.

    So keep somking what you are somking and keep dreaming of the "sovereignty of Pakistan", because it does not exist and keep listening to another production of Kaley Angrez (Zaid Hamid Kezzab).

  30. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Jibran

    By the way from which side of world my nephews are pouring in this forum.

    I will give you one major reason of this cocktail of problems which you are presenting to us in funny way and it is process of strengthening militarism that is root cause of all evils in our state.

    Since the creation of Pakistan, each year this predominance of aggressive military class and its ideas have been imposed on Pakistani nation and presented as last solution of our problems.

    Army and America alliance created this mullah culture which is now dominant in Punjab and NWFP area.On the other hand Baluchistan and Sindh are the victims of poor management of military govt who fully cooperated and illegally supported feudalistic characters of province to prolong their unlawful rule in smooth manners.

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Agreed with Ms. Nazia.

    2. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Baluchistan and Sindh are the victims of poor management of military govt who fully cooperated and illegally supported feudalistic characters of province to prolong their unlawful rule in smooth manners.

      ==============

      Correct to the hilt. Several successive Corps Commanders in Sindh were and still are frequent visitors/guests of leading Feudal Lords and Tribal Chiefs for hunting trip in their Keti [personally owned Jungle in Katcha Area – the area which becomes fertile after rain]

    3. Nazia Avatar
      Nazia

      They not restricted to only visits for hunting but get monthly payments or gifted by land and desired money all the time.

      These days Kiyani's brother a retired brigadeer is keeping this job in high spirit and even local offices and officers of ISI are his all time helpers in this national interest agenda of ISI.

  31. Al Avatar
    Al

    whats bye-elections?????????????

  32. Tamaaz Khan Avatar
    Tamaaz Khan

    My optimisim for Pakistan's future will know no bounds if this lady wins

  33. jibran Avatar
    jibran

    Aunty Nazia,

    "Army and America alliance created this mullah culture which is now dominant in Punjab and NWFP area"

    I thought Mullahs existed in subcontinent before Pakistan came into existence and now you have made a rather historic discovery. Can you please elaborate?

  34. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Jibran

    I modify my terms for immature minds.

    Army and America alliance created this highly charred and armed mullah culture in Extremist Republic Pakistan which is now dominant in Punjab and NWFP area”

    They were trained to handle sophisticated weapons, explosives devices and fully funded to trap the poor class (whose main demand is only bread and shelter) under their multiple religious slogans.

    Mullahs did exist in our culture before creation of Pakistan but only restricted in premises of a mosque or reciting Quran like activities.

    The medressahs in India before Partition were never recorded to spread hatred among any community but only limited to research work on Islamic teaching and history.

    They were earning money through teaching of Quran, by treating superstitious myths of ignorant class and for different religious ceremonies.

    It was political interest of mafias which helped them in random mushroom like growth and full supply of arms and money were available to them under our strong pseudo religious and political characters and now they have become monsters of state and their teaching houses are considered as place of shedding sins after doing all kinds of crime in outer world , come here, have long beard and start preaching Islam to rest of Muslims who are spared alive through their acts.

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Let me give you a glimpse as to how US-PAKISTANI ESTABLISHMENT WORKS: Jundullah and Abdulmalik Rigi was the Creation of US CIA and during Musharraf’s Tenure, read the rest as to how both were being used to destabilize Iran to create Iran-Pak Tension to create hurdle in Iran-Pak-India Gas Pipeline….details….

      The Iran Plans by Seymour M. Hersh The Iran Plans
      http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/06/iran-pla
      The Coming Wars by Seymour M. Hersh – What the Pentagon can now do in secret.
      http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/06/coming-w

    2. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Nazia says: – March 2, 2010 at 12:33 pm jibran I modify my terms for immature minds. Army and America alliance created this highly charred and armed mullah culture in Extremist Republic Pakistan

      ================

      Yes.

      جنوبی پنجاب:شدت پسندی کی حقیقت

      آخری وقت اشاعت: اتوار, 3 جنوری, 2010, 15:03 GMT 20:03 PST
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/01/100103

    3. Nazia Avatar
      Nazia

      Thanks Mughal

      for you all time logical support with professional consideration.

    4. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Nazia says: March 2, 2010 at 1:04 pm Thanks Mughal for you all time logical support with professional consideration.

      ===============

      This may also help

      Are We to Blame for Afghanistan? By Chalmers Johnson 11-22-04 http://hnn.us/articles/8438.html It should by now be generally accepted that the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan on Christmas Eve 1979 was deliberately provoked by the United States. In his memoir published in 1996, the former CIA director Robert Gates made it clear that the American intelligence services began to aid the mujahidin guerrillas not after the Soviet invasion, but six months before it. In an interview two years later with Le Nouvel Observateur, President Carter’s national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski proudly confirmed Gates’s assertion. “According to the official version of history,” Brzezinski said, “CIA aid to the mujahidin began during 1980, that’s to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan. But the reality, kept secret until now, is completely different: on 3 July 1979 President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And on the same day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained that in my opinion this aid would lead to a Soviet military intervention.”

      Charlie Wilson’s War by George Crile during the so-called Afghan Jihad following things did happen;

      He told Zia about his experience the previous year when the Israelis had shown him the vast stores of Soviet weapons they had captured from the PLO in Lebanon. The weapons were perfect for the Mujahideen, he told Zia. If Wilson could convince the CIA to buy them, would Zia have any problems passing them on to the Afghans? Zia, ever the pragmatist, smiled on the proposal, adding, Just don’t put any Stars of David on the boxes {Page 131-132}.

    5. Nazia Avatar
      Nazia

      Mughal

      Your link related to Johnson report is supposed to be truth of century but it was not surprised that it had come out in public after 20 years as Johnson had left his job in 1979.

      Who can challenge its authenticity and effectiveness as all stake holders of this war has gone and new faces are controlling the situation.

      It is biggest mistake or intentional commitment of leaders of weak nation that they have to follow the orders who would promise them to give Aide.

      So what ever plan CIA designed , it can be only executed on the fertile soil of traitors and ever green corrupt leadership.

      So these planned war games are requirement of first world to run their billion dollar war industries to sustain their strong economy and history always showed that our leadership are best assistant of super powers in setting up dangerous security standard in their countries.

  35. Observer Avatar
    Observer

    The "logical" world of a Mughal.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HouseOfStairs.j

    Btw: You are watching the PPP voters wandering around on the stairs 😉

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Yes we are also watching Imran Khan's supporter wandering around the Political Stairs for "Revolution" from Ishoj Denmark. Imran Khan's Support: Then Musharraf Now Taliban!
      http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/12/imran-kh

      Challenge for Imran Khan was to prove that he can be competitive in the mainstream with the big guys. Based on the unofficial results PTI’s Ijaaz Khan managed to bag 3,105 votes in a constituency with 333,928 registered voters – 0.93% only, which was very consistent with PTI’s performance in the past 14 years since their formation in 1996.

      No. of seats

      General Elections 1997 0

      General Elections 2002 1

      General Elections 2008 Boycotted

      Bye Elections 2010 Winning Votes PTI Votes

      NA 21 Mansehra 36,622 4,582

      NA 55 Rawalpindi 63,888 3,105

      PF 83 Swat 7,505 3,821

      All eyes were set on the results of the NA-55 by-election in Rawalpindi on February 24. PML-N candidate Malik Shakeel Awan won the election by a considerable majority. Sheikh Rashid, chief of the Awami Muslim League, was the runner up. Candidates of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) and the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) suffered a humiliating defeat. Editorial: Not so close a contest Friday, February 26, 2010 Daily Times.

      Revolution of Imran Khan.

  36. Observer Avatar
    Observer

    Lol….the Mughal got angry 😉

    Maybe suffering from ADHD=Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhd

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      No not at all:) Why should I be angry? It's Basic right to express your opinion: Back to Revolution of Imran:)

      Imran Khan hailed PCOed Judiciary!
      http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/08/imran-kh

  37. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    @ Amir Mughal!!!

    An eye opening link as usual….(as usual,i couldn't get the point..LOLZZZZ)

    the problem is when you translate the "political success" you find all sorts of disgusting meanings. similarly sincerity means failure in the politics of pakistan.

    so if some one says that x is a very successful politician, then it means he is talking about a lowlife thug.

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      How would you define Imran's Support to Musharraf's Martial Law, PCO Court, and Sham Referendum. Would you call it sincerity of Irman Khan with the masses of Pakistan when even the MQM didn't support that Referendum! Imran [let me refresh your memory about Roedad Khan, he was as well] riaisng slogans the "Revolution" has arrived in Pakistan i.e. 12 Oct 1999. Would you call it sincerity or Intellectual Dishonesty????

    2. Observer Avatar
      Observer

      @Jawwad

      "@ Amir Mughal!!!

      An eye opening link as usual….(as usual,i couldn’t get the point..LOLZZZZ)"

      That's a good one…;-) ……ROFL.

    3. Observer Avatar
      Observer

      @Jawwad

      "@ Amir Mughal!!!

      An eye opening link as usual….(as usual,i couldn’t get the point..LOLZZZZ)"

      That's a good one…;-) ……ROFL….cut pastia 😉

  38. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    I am not a political supporter of imran khan but i feel sincerity in his words and his body language. At least he has a moral courage to apologize for his action.

    kindly do not forget the atmosphere of post nawazshareef time after 1999 to 2004. At that time Pervez Musharraf was seen as saviour of pakistan.Every one was decieved partly because of acting skills of pervez musharraf backed by his heroic image in Kargil war and withdrawl of forces by Nawaz shareef and mostly because of the system of the country.

    For me he did a right job by apologising the nation.i shall keep appericiating his act of courage till he repeats this act.

    MQM and Pervez Musharraf have the history of long working relations and blind trust on each other. We have seen one bloody example of this relationship on Oct 2007 on the streets of karachi.

    Hazrat Eisa Aleh salam once said to the bani Israel (meaning)

    "you poeple filter the mosquitoes and engulf the whole camels"

    criticism for the sake of criticism is not a good thing.

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Dear Jawwad Sahab,

      Even if you are a political supporter of Imran Khan or any other party then it's your basic right and who am I to raise objection on your basic right, even criticizing anybody harshly is your basic right and no one should be allowed to tinker with your Freedom of Expression. I never doubted [ever] Imran's sincerity he has for Social Causes and Health but why his sincerity is answered like this: Vandalism and Vandals of Jamat-e-Islami and IJT. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/05/vandalis

  39. guYsir Avatar

    Aamir ko koi aur kaam nahe hai shayad is dunya may?

    AM r u live in australia?

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      No I haven't and live all over the place:)

  40. Tamaaz Khan Avatar
    Tamaaz Khan

    @dr jawwad khan

    " am not a political supporter of imran khan but i feel sincerity in his words and his body language."

    Fan boy alert!!!

    Dr. Jawwad, after all that studying and hard work to become a doctor, why can you not figure out what the rest of the country (mostly uneducated) has figured out a long time ago.

    It doesn't take a political genius to figure out why Imran Khan does not win elections.

    Imran Khan does not stand for anything, he has no stakeholders, he has no constituency, he has no agenda.

    Every few years we know what he is against, but we never find out what he is for. That's ehy he has always flip/flopped on his stance and will continue to do so.

    His Justice/Insaf rhetoric is rank amateur and half baked, and can only entice the simple minded or those who have too much time on their hands and an internet connection.

    Justice does not exist in a vaccum, justice is based on law. So what law does IK propose for Justice: Secular, Islamic. I doubt he has even thought this far to be able to articulate fully. True to his simple minded form, he says "insaf chahiyay bas". Any person with a iota of intellect would ask "insaf? kis bunyad par?"

    The reason for his political naivite is his celebrity, which, because of our culture, doesn't afford him the chance to come across people who would point out the MANY holes in his political thought.

    Also, the fact is that he is SO FAR REMOVED from the average population, for God's sake, he lives in a house designed to be as far away from people as possible. Not even in his only consituency, that Musharraf got him elected from.

    A glaring example of his falwed political thinking:

    He claims people do not need roti/kapra aur makan but justice, how does he explain the votes PPP/PML(N) get despite their OBVIOUS CRIMES.

    A 'peasant' like Mai Jori can figure this one out, not becuse she has no education, but like the majority of the country, she lives on the edge of starvation and NEEDS roti/kapra/aur makan.

    Only a person with suits for his foreign vists, shalwar kameez for pakistan, a house from which you cannot see the starving, and a full stomach wouldn't be able to priortize basic living needs over some idealistic VAGUE ideal of Justice.

  41. dr jawwad khan Avatar
    dr jawwad khan

    He claims people do not need roti/kapra aur makan but justice, how does he explain the votes PPP/PML(N) get despite their OBVIOUS CRIMES.

    _____________________________________________________

    there could be the two angles for looking and answering this question.

    1) POLITICAL ANGLE

    like many i believe that the politics is the name of an art of exploiting the expectations of the masses.

    2) PSYCHE OF THE MASSES.

    i am still wondering for answer. why a person who prays Allah(swt) for sending a massahia for killing every politician and criminal of the society and when election comes he votes for the same person for whom he was cursing.

    why a common man votes for same person to whome he can not trust for his own money.

    why the people do not want a change?…why don't say that we have tried this man he is proven uncompetant and corrupt lets try different party and different people.

    why people follow others like a sheep.

    may be the reason is that anomalies are considered as normal way of life. or may be the physche of masses is entirely different from the psyche of the individual. individually one can be sharp,smart and innovative but when it comes to collective decision,people become one more mouse in a rat race.

  42. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Khan

    you say

    Imran Khan does not stand for anything, he has no stakeholders, he has no constituency, he has no agenda.

    Does Zardari, sharif, Altaf hussain and now Musharf who is desperate in coming to politics these days, fits in this criteria which you have described for any political leader of Pakistan.

    Oh yes you can say that underdeveloped countries politician must stand behind Uniform support, make alliance with military leadership for solving the problems of few people, groups or institutes and then rule the country.

    Imran does'nt fit as politician in our money, caste and status quo centered like society,

    He doesn't come from feudal family or inherited political genes so we people cant accept him in few places.No matter he brings few more miraculous projects of hospital and universities.

    I dont say he is professional or perfect Politician but all others who are ruling us through generation can be named in the category of even good citizen of Pakistan.

    No doubt his personal life doesn't match with his words and ambition but no one can take his right of coming to politics on the basis of his fair projects for Pakistan.

    How can you say that justice in interlinked to roti kapra and makan.

    Mai jori like hard survivors of system belongs to richest province of Paksitan.

    All MPAs of Baluchistan are richest men of Pakistan.

    It is land of goods and human smugglers and arms dealers.

    So if there is no justice in the system money, education, land and food would only confine to few powerful hands and injustice values of state would deprive millions who actually deserve it.

  43. Tamaaz Khan Avatar
    Tamaaz Khan

    @Nazia

    Your comments in the past have been indicative of your sheltered nature, and this continues…

    What you describe there is ALL TRUE and basic information which we all know, no one is arguing the nature of politics in Pakistan.

    What you are looking for is utpoia and that exists in the hereafter, not in Pakistan, unfortunately.

    Rural Reality:

    A politican gives starving man a loaf of bread, a hut and kameez. The man beomes his Jiyala and votes for him regardless of the fact that for every roti he distributes the politican pokets $1000 rupees.

    This is the sad reality of pakistani politics.

    This is what Imran needs to reconcile himself with. People can't eat words, they can't cover themselves with thoughts and cannot sleep under concepts. For them basic survival is their ONLY priority.

    -In a country where there are 2000 patients to every doctor, CLINICS are needed, not specialized hospitals.

    -In a country where 75% of the population is illiterate PRIMARY EDUCATION is needed, not universities.

    For the Urban more educated people, simple minded rhetoric like JUSTICE, without any allusion to its implications or implementation is all hot air. They can tell IK hasn't given his concept of Justice too much though.

    Urbanites look for representation from the community (whatever that may be ethnic, religious, sectarian, locality)and for a record of progress and development.

    Choosing between political parties/polticians is like being forced to pick between two rotten fruit: you pick the one that offends you the least and will provide some degree of nourishment. A picture of a tasty and nutritious fruit won't help anyone.

    1. Observer Avatar
      Observer

      @Tamaz

      "What you are looking for is utpoia and that exists in the hereafter, not in Pakistan, unfortunately."

      Aaahhh. What a (weird) angle. Are you saying that what does not exist in Pakistan you should strive for?

  44. jibran Avatar
    jibran

    Aunty Nazia,

    "Mullahs did exist in our culture before creation of Pakistan but only restricted in premises of a mosque or reciting Quran like activities."

    May be you can look smart in your liberal-ignorants-club…

    Go read history about Syed Ahmed Shaheed, Shah Waliullah and later 1857, Tipu Sultan and so many other Ulema who fought against British Empire…

    Yes, there were people like Ghulam Kafir Qadiani who was practicing kabala-like-cult and other things, but then who considers him Muslim?

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Dear Mr. Jibran,

      Please correct some Historical Facts here that Syed Ahmed and his disciple Shah Ismail fought against Sikhs [Sikhs then were fighting against British Empire] not the British Empire and both were betrayed by Durranis and Barakzai Tribal Chiefs. [Reference: Tareekh Dawat O Azeemat by Abu Hasan Ali Nadvi aka Ali Mian – Former Head of Darul Uloom Deoband]

      Shah Waliullah [syed Ahmed and Shah Ismail were descendants of Waliullah Family] was no doubt a great scholar [translated Quran in Persian for the very first time in the then Hindustan and his sons Translated the Quran in Urdu (also the first time) and contributed a lot for Islam but they never participated in any Phyiscal Jihad against British Raj rather Shah Aziz [son of Shah Wali] was the first scholar who issued a Fatwa for learning English and allowed employment for the Muslims for British [Reference Aab-e-Kausar, Rood-e-Kausar and Mauj-e-Kausar by Sheikh Ikram published in 1950s] also [Reference: Tareekh Dawat O Azeemat by Abu Hasan Ali Nadvi aka Ali Mian – Former Head of Darul Uloom Deoband]

      Best Regards.

  45. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Jibran

    chutto hee rohoo gay saree ommer.

    Even company of elders are not helping you to come out of your immature age.

    You are taking me to 200 years back when Sikhs were ruling the main areas of subcontinent.

    Shah waliullah is still considered on the list of top Islamic scholars of Asia and his teaching innovated many new ideas in backward and illiterate Muslim class of subcontinent.

    syed shaeed was considered warrior and he mainly composed his army to fight against Sikhs a non muslims community ruling the muslim majority.

    I am talking about these mullahs who are showing their activism on Muslims and in Islamic republic of Pakistan .We got this country on the name of ISLAM where my mentioned breed are attacking and killing each other for preventing individuals' faith.In this new form of Islam here all are behaving like custodian of Islam.

    If you want to compare between this era and 1800 year then you will find a revolutionary and might be evolutionary change in our Islamic culture where Tablleghi jammat ICONS and our Taliban groups mostly linked with sunni and whabi groups have been aligned with sikhism.

    read for refreshing your knowledge.
    http://www.sikhtimes.com/news_060705a.html
    The latest innovation of our mullahs are contrary to our history as you are trying to show me.

    Even ghulum Qadiyani of that era never promoted aggressive propagation of Islam as our Tableeghi groups or mullahs are doing in islamic countries only.

    Chutto we educated people can confront faith vs faith through our knowledge, practical demonstration or with logic but tell me how to handle the butchers of Islamic faith who prefer to behead first and then go for suicidal killing who are not in mood of even listening to them.

  46. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Khan

    The first principle of islam and justice is that people living in specific geographic boundaries has the right over the resources of that area. That economic system in which all the people are equal no single person or specific class can get hold of the resources.

    It was narrated by Hazrat Abu Bakkar in “Equality is better in economics than giving priority to one group over other.

    Another principle of justice is again linked with economic condtions of Islamic state and it is that everybody has the right to have limited owner ship as the abilities of every individual are different.

    Not that the whole nation should have same clothing, food and houses.

    Islamic economics is also based on justice again and it is that any practice which concentrates wealth in certain hands will not be tolerated and the system will oppose it.

    So both justice and economics are strongly correlated with each other n Islamic state .

    You say

    Rural Reality:

    A politician gives starving man a loaf of bread, a hut and kameez. The man becomes his Jiyala and votes for him regardless of the fact that for every roti he distributes the politician pockets $1000 rupees.

    This is the sad reality of Pakistani politics.

    You are talking about shrewd politics Vs ignorant and Innocent people.

    Dont blame innocence of people over the corruption of few which can be blocked by prevailing lawful system.

    Here the negative factor is intention of Politician and if Imran khan like many other social worker come forward and prove their credibility than situation can be different.

    You are unaware of SKH.

    It has proper clinic where first patient is diagnosed free of cost and then taken to cancertreatment if diagnosed.

    He made this hospital after seeing the miseries of her mother as Cancer patient.

    He felt the deficiencies of cancer treatment during her pain and set the goal.

    Setting the basic HUs is govt job and even then ,many private groups have developed it for benefiting people as per ranage and capacity.

    One should have a little heart and courage to praise even the small goodness of others.

    SKH is huge modern project in underdeveloped country which he surely brought through his extreme effort .

  47. Observer Avatar
    Observer

    As long as we have injustice we will not prosper. Tell me, who will invest in Pakistan as long as we have crooks leading the nation? And the consequence is NO development and hence NO roti, kaprha aur makan!

    1. Nazia Avatar
      Nazia

      Nobody will bring investment in war zones or in highly terrorized areas.

      In such areas only marketing agents of war industry would come and watch the areas for business deals.

      first get rid of military games and war agendas within boundary of Pakistan and then think of survival on long term basis.

      Roti kapra and makan is hollow slogan which is trying to revive by corrupt zardari for showing his political sense.

      Countries participating in war and insurgency like activities never even can think of such minimum survivals.

  48. Pakblend Avatar

    unbelievible!!!!!! simply unbelivible.. we still have such ambitious and brave women around us…i m astonishe…

    i agree with many of you that corruption in all around us… but atleast anyone has taken an initiative to get rid of it..so instead of arguing like many of u i m strongly of the view that we must render our full support to her to increase her moral and give firmity to her aims…

  49. Nazia Avatar
    Nazia

    Pakblend

    You are unaware of physical power of our rural women.They work hard more than their men,Give birth to maximum kids they can and their normal working hours are 14 to 16 hrs, mostly with laborious job.

    1. Murad Pandrani Avatar

      I agreed with you miss nazia.