Today a string of 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 bomb attacks in Pakistan has the entire nation emotionally hurt compounded the fact that we also suffered a loss of 40 innocent lives. The series of suicide bombings has forced many of us to vocally condemn this mindless act of terrorism but interestingly Daniyal Noorani has chosen to send his message across in a short 3-1/2 minute music video, where he tries to narrate a story of a confused boy, searching for answers, ends up interacting with some mindless Islamic fanatics who expertly manipulate his concerns into becoming a potential suicide bomber. It serves as a touching reminder on how the Talibans can take advantage of the impoverished manipulating them for their own secret agenda which has nothing to do with Islam and heaven
Music, lyrics and direction is by Daniyal Noorani, character design and animation by Marria Khan, while the guitars by Shahjehan Khan and violins by Mialy Clark. He shares his reasons on why he wrote this song on Dawn Blog to say
I wrote ‘Find Heaven’ at a time when I felt there was no clear public consensus on suicide bombings. At that point, the urban centres of Pakistan had not been as hard hit as they are today and I felt that the country didn’t know how they felt about these activities, whether they were sympathetic or condemning of it. It was around that time I started writing the lyrics. The song tells the story of a confused young man seeking answers about life’s important questions and traces how an individual lures this young man by saying he has the answer to life’s ultimate question, how to find heaven or zenith? The lyrics convey the young man’s journey and the events that lead to the conclusion he comes to.
Read more at Dawn, Pakistaniat, KoolMuzone
The Urdu version has also been released
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100 responses to “Find Heaven – A Musical response to the brainwashed Suicide bombers”
OK….so the mullahs are indoctrinating innocent small boys? Then tell me who is indoctrinating our grand old men and the baboo elite? US$$$$$
Sharmeed Obaid produced a Video documentary on Pakistan's Taliban Generation – due to security implications its not viewable in Pakistan – I was privy to a privaate viewing and it did raise some very serious quetions as how the elders were brainwashing the youth into suicide bombers
was aired on PBS http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/pakista…
the youth are being expertly targeted
how the Talibans can take advantage of the impoverished manipulating them [teeth]
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Several Officials in US Administration passed million of Dollars to Iranian Cutthroat Mullahs and met a rep of Khomeini to delay the hostage release for the sake of US Election Campaign.Iran Contra Coverup: 2 of 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XITcdoRWPt8&fe…
Bani Sadar was a deputy of Khomeini and later went in exile in Paris. Wow. What a Revolution whose Central Leader [Khomeini] "Enforced" the Revolution when he came back from Paris [why didn't he Revolutionized the French Society while in Exile in Paris].
French society has already passed through this revolutionary procedure to get rid of monarchy and they have developed a proper social system of equality and justice.
They are not in mood of following any religious clerics as thy have well maintained their history with truth and sincerity for guiding their next generation.
So Muslim clerics have been failed in creating change as we are seeing in Muslim countries in Europe and Australia belts. There people have developed good logical sense under good governance of sincere leadership.
There is very interesting message in this song…if you want peace and stability.then beaware of mosque and mullah.
Dawn group is very famous for their "bay waqt ki ragni".
Why don't they give the solution?
should we kill every bearded man and demolish every mosque?
911 all attackers were clean shaved.
Saudis are popular for their french cut styles.
Saddam and other middle east leaders are beardless characters of Islamic.
What ever photos of Holy PROPHET I have found in different museums or in Encyclopedias were with small trimmed beard.
Research little who actually created this perception that beard men are fanatics.
These are Pakistani clerics and its military dictators during Afghan war.
In Pakistan It takes few hours to block all kind of u tube clips related to jokes on zardari & co and about military senior men.
So why u tube clips mostly made in Pakistani mountains covering all the beheading scenes or flogging of women are allowed to air wihtout any restrictions.
US Vice President Bush [Bush Senior] January 20, 1981 – January 20, 1989 [later President of the USA] was regularly holding meetings with "Ayatullahs" for what "Enforcing Islam"??? and same Bush Senior Bush was very "Chummy" with Wahabi "Aal-e-Sauds" for what? for the sake of Wahabism??? Award Winning Investigation Journalist Russ Baker on Bush Family http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iONZaof_HBA
Amir,
You covered shias and wahabis, why not cover the grave worshippers too? because these days the officials are seen putting 'chaddars' on different tombs of different peers.
and funding this sect too?
Is not that so?
Thank you all for your feedback.
@Dr. Khan: This video is not meant to be attributed to every bearded man as you said… but to the men who manipulate religion and take advantage of impoverished souls.
@Mr. Mughal: You bring up valid concerns about the origins of this beast. That being said, two wrongs do not make a right.
Dear Noorani Sahab,
Instead of bashing Mullah [they do deserve bashing for being fools and used] we must look deeper into the murky affairs of those who were actually behind these acts, some names and their designations [many amongst them were also active during Afghan Fiasco 1979 – 1988]
we must look deeper into the murky affairs of those who were actually behind these acts, some names and their designations [many amongst them were also active during Afghan Fiasco 1979 – 1988] Iran Contra Coverup: 3 of 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNxbfaoFfys&fe…
the youth are being expertly targeted [Teeth]
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Like shown in this part and it's shocking really shocking Iran Contra Coverup: 4 of 8 [watch from 3:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLffJKLMYE0&fe…
what a piece of junk, but gets limelight because the mullahs are distorted.
Daniyal, keep it up, your shi$$y video does not really answer any thing, but I'm sure it would soon be covered in all over the world and you will get what you wanted, a short-cut to fame.
Quite a few of our US fundamentalist preachers and leaders and even some children's book are quite a parallel to the sort of mullahs Daniyal is showing who confuse the youth with crusade-like messages which make some of our youth think at least at first that they are doing God and Country's work by joining war efforts elsewhere.
Why not see Daniyal's song as similar to peace reminders in relationship to youth everywhere? Surely those who question Daniyal hope that we in the US are trying to do the same here to point up where some of our religious extremism has been used to guide our youth to war, participating in operating drones, torture, etc.
So why don't we say no in every reasonable way we can to any sort of religion which recommends such death, havoc and dehumanization?
So why not all of us show everywhere that God-Love-True spirituality and concern for fellow humans simply isn't in this violence whatever our religious affiliation might be?
Thank you Daniyal for doing your part and may we do our's here in the US.
Teeth
The video provided and link you showed here gives me the same perception which was presented in cartoons of Danish paper.
The theme was almost same behind presenting these cartoons but here little humor was added as cartoon maker was living in comfortable environment which lacks in our side as we are collecting dead bodies behind this practical demonstration.
One thing is not interested that all generals and their sons who promoted this taliban culture are either clean shaved or heavy mustache like goons only which is mostly used in our culture to harass others.
like Gen babar, hameed gul, mehmmood, zia ul hag, abdul rehman,Amjad and many more who earned billions through this game and for its participants they left long beards and fanatical ideas to impose on weak class of our system.
clean shaved or heavy mustache like goons
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🙂 Please "dostoon ka to khayal karayn". Always keep your friends in mind while talking about Heavy Mustaches like Goons. Not every person with Heavy Mustaches is a "Goon":)))
Oh sorry mughal
I am referring to generals and typical official goons only .
I have serious slip tongue problem in routine life.
This piece was little example of my prompt weakness.
Actually in my family. my grand mothers from both side never allowed men to cross a limited range of mustache and beard.
So since our childhood we heard a typical name of sardar jee for the guys who tried to choice for big beard or goon with big mustache(in punjabi they always said"ghunidan har moouchan " from these dominating and respectable ladies.
It was popular joke in our family when first time these ladies were taken to some open cinema to watch movies, in first scene they got up and quit the hall.When asked they said that wadian mouchan waley ghunday sadhay samaenay khola gay sun(Big moustouch goons were standing in front of us which we cant tolerate so quit it
So such funny words have been implanted in our brain since our child hood
Again I apologize for my wrong perception.
LOL:) No need for sorry, I really enjoyed your comment:) Keep it up with your "slip tongue" because at least most of things you say are true to the core.
@TM
"the youth are being expertly targeted"
Maybe, but who made this mess. Who created this vacuum? Where to send the children when the educational system is in tatters? What about our leaders? Who control them "expertly"? Those people capable of doing ghunda ghardi on national (napak army) and international level (Western gang=NATO)? And that too for just USD 🙁
The tragic part of this sorry saga is that people are still inclined to vote these gangsters to power. What you sow is what you will harvest….no more no less. It's pay back time!
Why Islam Vilify in the Media?
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guY-sir, guYasir, Ya-sir. This Trinity is ONE.
Well read above article written by Th.D = Doctor of Theology. One of the best article i have ever found on the net regarding Vilification of Islam in Media. must read. Thank you
dude!
where is the article? page opens with out any article.
JK
It's working fine here. Check your end. Anyone else having a same problem tell honestly else Its working fine here.
We need to check our foreign policy .
Why when rest of the world is sitting in peace we are in pieces?
USA would leave we have to live with Pushtoons and Taliban .
Can we kill or handover all Taliban ?
Let us be realistic.
Again as ever it is not a issue of religion ;it is political issue.
Who will bomb at the people at the time of Friday prayers ?Definitely not muslim.
After all these sacrifice of military and civilian what are we gaining?
Civil and military government need to come up with unified foreign policy.
farrah
no nation is sitting in peace look around whole-west, their shattered economy, their unemployment, their shooting cases in schools, universities, their taxes issues, look around Greece and others deeply, every1 in panic and chaos
This is End Times. They wanna make whole Muslim world a Secular-states instead of Sacred. They wanna make apart whole Islam the last rebound faith in God.
Every Civilization is based on religion and religious laws are as important for our souls as food for our bodies on daily basis, if you won't follow you'll led your civilization towards self-suicide. which is the case of today aka Clash of Civilization. Better read above article to know more. OR read this
http://www.666blacksun.com/Xianity_communism.html
jibran says: March 13, 2010 at 5:38 pm Amir, You covered shias and wahabis, why not cover the grave worshippers too? because these days the officials are seen putting ‘chaddars’ on different tombs of different peers. juibran says: March 13, 2010 at 5:39 pm and funding this sect too? Is not that so?
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Dear Jibran Sahab,
At your service Sir, these are also covered! For your kind perusal: Makkah to Data Darbar Lahore [Sufi Shrine in Pakistan] http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/makkah-t… Curse of Amulets and Charms amongst Muslims. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/curse-of… Idol Worshipping and Grave Worshipping amongst Muslims http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/idol-wor…
This is not the tragedy of Lahore or Sawat or Pakistan alone .
This is the tragedy of Muslim world.
The response should be unified from Taliban from Pushtoons from Pakistan policy makers.
We are not George Bush and Tony Blair that we cannot negotiate with Extremists .
Taliban are not new.
They are there for past twenty years why they have turned into our enemies?We all know that ?
How we can win them back?
right…USA is willing to negotiate with taliban why don't we?
jk
ja k karo nah un se negotiations yaha kya ker rahay ho bhai, aap tu khan hu un se zada ache baat ker saktay ho.
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This is not tragedy for whole Pakistan and Pakistanis that we have thousands of medressahs where thousands of clerics having bundles of degree couldnt counter the belief of suicide bombing initiated by illiterate class of mullahs living in stone age life styles for last 8 years.
Our army men are throughout in negotiations with these so called extremist groups that is why we have off and on military operations and retaliation like situation going on in specific areas of our cities.
Tragedy is that majority of victims are poor people who are already facing the burdens of poor governance along with life threatening acts of terrorism.
Problems are with negotiations ways, terms and conditions which are being crippled by both side again and again
by God the page is not showing the article.the list and other things are there but no article.
Barhay bhai…men to aik aam aadmi hoon.mera hona ya na hona barabar hay is system men.
Yara our hockey team came in WC at last #12. Our cricket team down at 2nd last #7 in both Odi and Tests.
Our Karachi come at 2 or 3 not in any but filthiest city of the wOrld. Is that Ture??? if yes then What a halluci-Nation we are. Morons. None but $Debaucher$ death on them. This is God Wrath on all of us. U cannot avert. Get ready for bigger Torment here and hereafter in both lives.
But Wait Be Smart instead of Sordid, Leave Cricket, Hockey, Movies, Talibans these are all distractions aka halluci-Nations.. Gimme reign i'll make you happy-Nations as I stated in my blog profile, I change URL didn't remove whole blog, giving it new look and writing some new astute-article then i'll disclose till You can Join Me Below
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There is nothing to dis heart about lowest position in hockey once our proud.
Lets see that glass is half filled and then turn level of result upside down.Now you would come to top from bottom.
Smart people must generate smart ideas in desperate situation.
I stated my sum smart ideas in my articles like Democracy is a rUSe, God and Mammon, Marranos who worship Mammon, and even in my profile, but no one read, no one pay heed, no one care, no one join my blog, what to do? my smart idea ain't goin in your moron-minds,u r following myth rather minds what 2 do? you shud becum smart 1st like me in order to understand my ideas. gotcha?
I'm Sole-Smart… :)))
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Dear Yasir,
Don't give up please! and don't be dishearted by lack of public attention.blog is like a personal diary, like your family album where you write and colletc what is imposrtant to you.I believe that you have a enormous writing capabilities and you have much to share.The issues are unlimmited. dont give up.i shall visit your blog regularly.
don't give up. donot surrender.
Gu-in-sir,
90% of what you write doesn't make sense, rest 10% is your self-promotion? why should one bother to even read your comments, let alone your blogs?
My blog ain't for bumpkins. U must come from Mush and Bush Butt so definitely you can't get the light.
Mush and Bush, Now Obama and Zardari. They all think from their butts, make policies out from their butts, and make us accomplice to their butty aka buttery system i.e homosexuality. Aren't they sordid-stinkers? Goto cesspool, u r filthy fagots, filthy f**kers… go again from where u came out in dis wOrld….. My blog was running……….leave u won't get $Debaucher$ U F-kin Fagots
Are they brain-washed or we brain-washed into buying the phony war on terror?
We become the party of sufferers, where as the masters enjoy the chess and the $$$$$$$$.
There is no harm in starting dialogue with the Taliban because Taliban were created by the USA in the first place: Karl Schwarz 9 11 truth and the War for OIL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DHcUBwiKn4
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US placed the Taliban in Afghanistan in 1996 – CNN's Crossfire – 09.11.02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b83FfkKFtw
This may help: Documentary 2006 – Declassified: The Taliban (Part 1/5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i1AJz2axsY&fe…
brainwashed Suicide bombers [Teeth]
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Have anybody watched Stanley Kubrick’s Masterpiece ” Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)” http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/ , and if you haven’t watched it yet then watch it to know the mindset of Hamid Gul, A Q Khan, Durrani, Beg and many other Comedians and Buffoons in Pakistani Establishment.
Hamid Gul, A Q Khan, Durrani, Beg and many other Comedians and Buffoons in Pakistani Establishment
These are not comedian but dangerous men , Pakistani soil produced and our corrupt system helped them to hold the decision making seats .They maneuvered and implemented anti state/people policies and they are responsible of creating extremist republic of Pakistan.
Loss of each innocent soul dying like helpless creatures on our streets in this wave of terrorism should be named as victim instead of calling them shaheed and blame should be put on account of such generals who never lost a single relation and penny in this war but earned billions and awarded lucrative posts to their sons and other family members.
"Hamid Gul, A Q Khan, Durrani, Beg and many other Comedians and Buffoons in Pakistani Establishment"
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Would you guys explain,how Dr.A Q Khan is comedian, buffoons or dangerous man for pakistanis?
Yes,Every one saw the musharraf made confession of Dr.A Q Khan beside this tv drama do you have any thing(concrete amd undeniable) against him?
Isn't it amazing that half of the same US Reagan Administration [e.g. Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bush Senior, Dick Chenney, etc.etc] attacked Afghanistan after 911 whereas they were Helping the so-called "Afghan Jihad" which benefited the USA at the cost of Afghan Blood/People who sacrificed their lives for US War Efforts and got nothing in the end.
What a Joke with Islam the Afghan Jihad was in the light of history above and read our own mistake rather violation!
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ
O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. [AL-MAEDA (THE TABLE, THE TABLE SPREAD)
Chapter 5 Verse 51]
تَرَى كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُمْ يَتَوَلَّوْنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ لَبِئْسَ مَا قَدَّمَتْ لَهُمْ أَنفُسُهُمْ أَن سَخِطَ اللّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ وَفِي الْعَذَابِ هُمْ خَالِدُونَ
وَلَوْ كَانُوا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالله والنَّبِيِّ وَمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَا اتَّخَذُوهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء وَلَـكِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِّنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ
Thou seest many of them making friends with those who disbelieve. Surely ill for them is that which they themselves send on before them: that Allah will be wroth with them and in the doom they will abide. If they believed in Allah and the Prophet and that which is revealed unto him, they would not choose them for their friends. But many of them are of evil conduct. [AL-MAEDA (THE TABLE, THE TABLE SPREAD)Chapter 5 Verse 80 and 81]
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَتَوَلَّوْا قَوْمًا غَضِبَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِمْ قَدْ يَئِسُوا مِنَ الْآخِرَةِ كَمَا يَئِسَ الْكُفَّارُ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ الْقُبُورِ
O ye who believe! Be not friendly with a folk with whom Allah is wroth, (a folk) who have despaired of the Hereafter as the disbelievers despair of those who are in the graves. [AL-MUMTAHINA (SHE THAT IS TO BE EXAMINED, EXAMINING HER) Chapter 60 – Verse 13]
لاَّ يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاء مِن دُوْنِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ إِلاَّ أَن تَتَّقُواْ مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللّهُ نَفْسَهُ وَإِلَى اللّهِ الْمَصِيرُ
Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying. [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 Verse 28]
NOW READ:
Charlie Wilson's War by George Crile during the so-called Afghan Jihad following things did happen;
He told Zia about his experience the previous year when the Israelis had shown him the vast stores of Soviet weapons they had captured from the PLO in Lebanon. The weapons were perfect for the Mujahideen, he told Zia. If Wilson could convince the CIA to buy them, would Zia have any problems passing them on to the Afghans? Zia, ever the pragmatist, smiled on the proposal, adding, Just don’t put any Stars of David on the boxes {Page 131-132}.
General Zia ul Haq appointed a ‘Society Lady’ Joanne Herring as Pakistan’s honorary Consul in Houston, Texas USA, earlier her husband Bob Herring was offered the post but he declined and gave his wife’s name.
“She was Zia’s most trusted American adviser, as per Sahibzada Yaqub Khan, She absolutely had his ear, it was terrible,” “Zia would leave cabinet meetings just to take Joanne’s calls. “There was no affair with Zia,” Wilson recalls, but it’s impossible to deal with Joanne and not deal with her on sexual basis. No matter who you are, you take those phone calls.” {Page 67-68}.
On page 503 in Charlie Wilson’s War, the author quoted “but it was losing Zia that crushed Charlie. At the state funeral in Islamabad, with a million Pakistanis and Mujahideen crowding up to him, Charlie made his way to Akhtar’s successor, Hamid Gul, and broke into tears. “I have lost my father on this day,” he said.
It is so funny to hear that "joanne of white house" had so much bad taste of picking the worst from Pakistani junk for fulfilling her assigned official duty through her God gifted skills.
The verses you have given are intentionally placed on courses of secondary and primary system of Pakistan started during Zia regime .
Even in courses of O and A level such verses have been included and still existing and this is approved by British council UK board.
You know once one of these verses was quoted to me by the son in law of one of jihadi general for countering me to find the real enemy of Islam.
He belong to one of strong Wahhabi family of Pakistan.
Presently he is working as senior manager of Coca cola(jewish controlled company) company of Dubai branch and this seat was given to him on the approach of his father in law.
The same geenral has settled his two sons in Singapore based financial company run by Jewish management.
So I Think such enmity is left for people like you and me and designers/planners have no restriction to follow what they are preaching in their official duty.
brainwashed Suicide bombers [Teeth]
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RIGHT UNDER THE NOSE OF GENERAL MUSHARRAF AND GEORGE W
BUSH!!!
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In interviews, however, American intelligence officials and high-ranking military officers said that Pakistanis were indeed flown to safety, in a series of nighttime airlifts that were approved by the Bush Administration. The Americans also said that what was supposed to be a limited evacuation apparently slipped out of control, and, as an unintended consequence, an unknown number of Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters managed to join in the exodus. “Dirt got through the screen,” a senior intelligence official told me. Last week, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld did not respond to a request for comment.
Musharraf won American support for the airlift by warning that the humiliation of losing hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of Pakistani Army men and intelligence operatives would jeopardize his political survival. “Clearly, there is a great willingness to help Musharraf,” an American intelligence official told me. A C.I.A. analyst said that it was his understanding that the decision to permit the airlift was made by the White House and was indeed driven by a desire to protect the Pakistani leader. The airlift “made sense at the time,” the C.I.A. analyst said. “Many of the people they spirited away were the Taliban leadership”—who Pakistan hoped could play a role in a postwar Afghan government. According to this person, “Musharraf wanted to have these people to put another card on the table” in future political negotiations. “We were supposed to have access to them,” he said, but “it didn’t happen,” and the rescued Taliban remain unavailable to American intelligence.
According to a former high-level American defense official, the airlift was approved because of representations by the Pakistanis that “there were guys— intelligence agents and underground guys—who needed to get out.”
REFERENCE: The Getaway Questions surround a secret Pakistani airlift. by Seymour M. Hersh January 28, 2002 http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2002/01/28/02012…
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Mughal
Through your research other than sweepings operation of Taliban via bush mush program this point to be noted that Musharraf 's reign as COAS was one of dangerous tenure in the history of subcontinent in which two times chances of nuclear war were maximum through his provoking military strategies.
One event was kargil and 2nd time when attacked on Indian parliament was made.
This was all happened when our army had got nuclear capability under AQ khan network and they have started smuggling this knowledge and devices to more unstable countries like S korea, Vietnam,Iran and Libya.
So chronological events of militarism in Paksitan are clearly showing this trend
more arms and dangerous technology would be in range of our military rulers, more vulnerable this part of earth for war/ nuclear war.
These aggressive attitude are adopted without seeing its long term consequences in the region.
War like situation would be preferred on human development programs.
Human massacre or killing of work force in military and civilian setup are considered as trivial matters.
So see this policy has been become our fate since the creation of Pakistan and zardari and sharif like cartoons are being brought in our system to divert the attention of masses.
Indians are looking more on defensive and propagandist like position rather than aggressive stand after Afghan war and even then their support and soft corner for Musharraf is creating many ambiguity in present scenario.
dr jawwad khan says: March 14, 2010 at 2:30 pm Would you guys explain,how Dr.A Q Khan is comedian, buffoons or dangerous man for pakistanis? Yes,Every one saw the musharraf made confession of Dr.A Q Khan beside this tv drama do you have any thing(concrete amd undeniable) against him?
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I just said Comedian and Buffoon because it is better for A Q to chose silence.
Dr Khan’s letter: govt in a quandary By Umar Cheema Wednesday, December 16, 2009 http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id…
ISLAMABAD: Dr Abdul Qadir Khan’s alleged four-page letter to a British journalist, encapsulating details about nuclear proliferation and his ‘partners-in-crime’, has become a great source of trouble for the government that wants him investigated to cross-examine the contents providing fodder to the foreign media.
More: REFERENCE: From The Sunday Times September 20, 2009 Investigation: Nuclear scandal – Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan – The Pakistani scientist who passed nuclear secrets to the world’s rogue states has been muzzled by his government. In a smuggled letter, AQ Khan reveals his side of the story http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/…
dr jawwad khan says: March 14, 2010 at 2:30 pm Would you guys explain,how Dr.A Q Khan is comedian, buffoons or dangerous man for pakistanis? Yes,Every one saw the musharraf made confession of Dr.A Q Khan beside this tv drama do you have any thing(concrete amd undeniable) against him?
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Silence is better because the Issue above would open can of worms and you wouldn't like it.
WHAT KAMRAN KHAN DIDN'T TELL while reciting details of Mehran Bank Scandal IS AS UNDER FROM THE SAME SCANDAL! Kamran Khan filed Mehran Bank and below mentioned facts in the Washington Post in 90s [didn't even repeat that part in GEO TV Program] Unreported part is as under:
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After lunch, Nawaz brought up the subject of how Aslam Beg early in 1991 had sought a meeting with him (then prime minister) to which he brought Major-General Asad Durrani, chief of the ISI. They told him that funds for vital on-going covert operations (not identified by Nawaz) were drying up, how they had a foolproof plan to generate money by dealing in drugs. They asked for his permission to associate themselves with the drug trade, assuring him of full secrecy and no chance of any trail leading back to them. We never learn from history By Ardeshir Cowasjee dated 21 July 2002 Sunday 10 Jamadi-ul-Awwal 1423 http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/20020721.htm
Pakistan lays down the agenda for the US By Seema Sirohi
South Asia Dec 25, 2004 http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/FL25Df01….
Karamat's categorical tone left some US officials a little embarrassed, for they are not used to ambassadors laying down the line in Washington. "Even Tony Blair's ambassador won't use that tone in public," said one observer. Some others said that Pakistan prescribing the agenda was a case of the tail wagging the dog. Meanwhile, what surprised some was Karamat's dismissive tone about the A Q Khan affair, which he labeled a "proliferation episode" while denying any government complicity in it. "There was no government sanction, approval, or any kind of government connection with what went on," he said flatly. But Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan, in his 11-page confession reported in the US press in February, named Karamat, former chief of army staff General (retired) Mirza Aslam Beg and President General Pervez Musharraf as the men on top who were aware of what was going on. As the chief of army staff from 1996-98, Karamat was directly responsible for the safety and security of the nuclear program.
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Mughal
I am highly against of this silence policy as it encourages the other hidden characters to follow the same footsteps of adulteration in national duties.
This polciy of adopting double or triple dimensions games during our line of duty always tended toward personal gains and interests.
Efforts are multidimensional but results are wither wrong or right and in this critical matter it has been proved fatally wrong so no need of hidden agendas as we are reaping what these character have been sown in our soils.
Have you ever found any tint of repentance in characters of such deals including Aq khan as he knows well that army management wouldn't hand over him to international agencies as lot of top brass name would come out including Gen musahrf, gen mehmmod durrani and gen kadwai like commission agents.
So silence on crimes could be reason of corrupt brain storming in national level where negative people can be encouraged.
dr khan
if you have free time then try to go through some detail research on Ak Khan network from impartial sources.
The International Institute for Strategic Studies
The End of A Q khan network
Early suspicions
Although A.Q. Khan enjoyed freedom of action during most of his working career in Pakistan, there is evidence that officials in the Pakistani security establishment were suspicious of his activities from as early as 1989.
Ever since the rule of President Zia ul-Haq in the 1980s, each successive Pakistani government had found a reason to worry about KRL. In some cases they reportedly ordered investigations. Until 2001, however, A.Q. Khan’s illicit activities were overlooked due to the importance of his laboratories to national security as well as his heroic status among the Pakistani populace.
Musharraf wrote in his September 2006 memoir that ‘for years, A.Q.’s lavish lifestyle and tales of his wealth, properties, corrupt practices, and financial magnanimity at state expense were generally all too well known in Islamabad’s social and government circles. However, these were largely ignored by the governments of the day, in the larger interest of the sensitive and important work in which he was engaged. In hindsight, that neglect was apparently a serious mistake.’ Regardless of the accuracy of Musharraf’s contention that he was unaware of Khan’s proliferation sales until informed by the United States, there can be no doubt about the serious consequences of Pakistan’s failure to take action earlier.
The first time A.Q. Khan committed a problematic indiscretion was in April 1984 when a local newspaper quoted him boasting of his achievement in enriching uranium to weapons grade. military cooperation and arms transfers designed to oust the Soviet Union from Afghanistan. However, Khan’s boast helped validate US intelligence findings about Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme..
Three years later, A.Q. Khan made a similar but even more serious mistake. During a spring 1987 interview with an Indian journalist at the peak of the military stand-off provoked by India’s large-scale Brasstacks military exercise, he disclosed that Pakistan had developed the capability to manufacture a nuclear weapon. On this occasion Zia summoned Khan in order to rebuke him. . This may have contributed to Khan’s motivations in offering Iran a veritable ‘shopping list’ of nuclear technology and P-1 centrifuges.
According to Pakistani officials, the Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) had started to investigate A.Q. Khan’s activities in the 1980s, but did not raise concerns about onward proliferation because the ISI’s instructions were only to protect the nuclear programme and prevent foreign espionage, not to investigate Khan’s proliferation activities. Furthermore, ISI investigators did not probe A.Q. Khan’s personal wealth, travel plans and acquisition efforts. However, Pakistani security and intelligence agencies occasionally noticed anomalies in his foreign travel and financial practices, which they believed warranted further investigation.
One example of this was in 1989, when the ISI Director General reported to President Ghulam Ishaq Khan that A.Q. Khan was meeting ‘suspicious characters’ in Dubai. Rather than intensifying the surveillance on A.Q. Khan, the president warned him to be careful and stay clear of the ISI. There are a number of possible explanations for the president’s behaviour. One is that he condoned A.Q. Khan’s onward proliferation (the full nature of which may not have been known at the time). Alternatively, the president could have been motivated to warn A.Q. Khan to avoid indiscretions that might also compromise the black market imports to KRL and its entities, which were then deemed vital to Pakistan’s programme. . In any case, this incident confirms that the highest authority in Pakistan wanted the role of the intelligence agencies confined to the protection, rather than the monitoring, of the programme. President Khan’s action was a tacit message to the ISI not to compromise or complicate A.Q. Khan’s clandestine procurement work.
Apart from the concerns raised by Pakistani intelligence officials, on numerous occasions the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) – and some younger PAEC scientists seconded to KRL – warned the government that A.Q. Khan would cause a huge embarrassment if left unchecked and if there were not a thorough examination of his financial accounts and foreign activities. Government officials continually dismissed the PAEC allegations, believing them to be motivated by institutional rivalry. (PAEC did not enjoy the same level of financial autonomy and freedom that KRL had been granted.)
However, after repeated allegations and mounting suspicion of Khan’s foreign activities, the government finally decided to act. In 1996, Chief of Army Staff Jehangir Karamat ordered an investigation of the procurement activities, and an audit of the financial transactions, of both KRL and PAEC. . Predictably, A.Q. Khan and his supporters put up considerable resistance, and the political establishment dropped the matter quite rapidly, probably because of concerns about unwanted publicity of the still-covert nuclear weapons production programme.
Two years later, under heavy US pressure to investigate A.Q. Khan, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif ordered a detailed audit of his finances and directed the ISI to reinvestigate Khan’s previous suspicious financial transactions. The ISI investigation produced hundreds of pages of information on Khan’s personal assets and bank accounts, but again, no significant measures against Khan’s onward proliferation activities were taken following this audit.
A.Q. Khan reported directly to the highest national authority in the country: first to Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto from 1976 to 1977; then to President Zia from 1977 to 1988; and later to Ghulam Ishaq Khan from 1988 to 1993. The diffusion of political power during civilian President Ghulam Ishaq Khan’s tenure saw the chief of army staff being brought into the management of Pakistan’s nuclear programme, dealing directly with A.Q. Khan so that the military could retain authority over the nuclear assets.
In 1993, Chief of Army Staff General Abdul Waheed became responsible for the oversight of all scientific organisations in an interim period when both President G.I. Khan and Prime Minister Sharif had departed simultaneously after an intense political struggle. A.Q. Khan was therefore usually under the de facto operational control of senior military figures.
At Army General Headquarters, General Waheed made the Director General of Combat Development (DGCD) responsible for coordinating the nuclear weapons programme on his behalf.
The DGCD was the primary recipient of complaints, both from within Pakistan – stemming from the bickering between PAEC and KRL – and from abroad in the form of embassy demarches and visiting envoys, especially after Pakistan’s nuclear tests. One such complaint occurred in the aftermath of North Korea’s first test-firing, on 31 August 1998, of its two-stage, 2,000km-range Taepo-dong-1 ballistic missile. In April that year, Pakistan had tested for the first time KRL’s single-stage, 1,500km-range Ghauri missile – a derivative of North Korea’s No-dong. The United States, Japan and other countries were deeply concerned about missile cooperation between Pakistan and North Korea, and were worried that Pakistan was also interested in acquiring a longer-range missile. In this context, North Korea’s Taepo-dong test was seen as part of a North Korean marketing campaign or possibly even an indication that it had a eager customer in Islamabad. Officials visiting Islamabad from Washington and Tokyo condemned North Korea’s test and demanded to know whether A.Q. Khan had passed on technology or missile test data to the North Koreans and whether he was also involved in the Taepo-dong programme.
When in 1999 Musharraf received a report, apparently from a foreign intelligence agency, that North Korean nuclear experts, in the guise of missile engineers, were being given secret briefings on centrifuges at KRL, Khan was finally called in for questioning. However, he denied the charge and no further action was taken.
Pakistan’s predicament was compounded in the summer of 1998 when al-Qaeda terrorists attacked US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. The country came under increased pressure to reassure the international community that there was no connection between its nuclear programme and its policy towards Afghanistan, where the ISI was known to support the Taliban..
By this point, the Sharif government faced multiple problems: nuclear sanctions; dealing with the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan; crises with India over Kashmir; domestic economic strife; and civil–military tensions.
In October 1998, Sharif fired General Jehangir Karamat from his position as army chief and replaced him with General Pervez Musharraf, in a bid to consolidate domestic power under the office of the prime minister. However, this manoeuvre backfired as, a little over a year later, Sharif was himself deposed by Musharraf in a military coup.
A.Q. Khan’s removal
After Musharraf’s takeover in 1999, the government took a fresh approach toward the issues of corruption and accountability.The intelligence services conducted a comprehensive investigation into A.Q. Khan’s foreign procurements and entrepreneurial activities. This effort resulted in a secret 120-page report detailing Khan’s irregular financial practices, his $8 million in various bank accounts and his $10m hotel in Timbuktu.
Mughal I am highly against of this silence policy
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Dear Madam,
Always remember can of worms. Silence is better, and if you chose to speak then read this and read the last part with attention about an Al Haaj: Mossad, Mahmoud Al Mabhouh & Deception. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/02/mossad-m…
@Amir Mughal!
Now in changing world nuclear proliferation became a sin bigger than the shirk and Pakistan was the first country who committed that sin.
Can any one tell me how a celebrity like Dr.Abdul Qadeer Khan could possibly run the so called "private" network of nuclear proliferation by his own?
Is there any thing in the world exist with the name of "private nuclear market" is it possible?
Is it possible for any group to smuggle and provide the centrifuges, high quality steel, tubes and enriched uranium with out the knowldge of the governments?
the simple fact is that nuclear know how was shared possibly with some equipments and parts necessary for enrichment of uranium in return for transfer of missile technology from North Korea and money from libiya and iran.
and when after 9/11 the world stopped keeping blind eye, you made him a scapegoat.
i believe that words quoted from chinese senior minister LiChew reveals the secret when he say:
“As long as they need the bomb, they will lick your balls. As soon as you have delivered the bomb, they will kick your balls.”
Or in the words of Dr.A Q.
“The bastards first used us and are now playing dirty games with us.”
the said letter was an ultimate result of humiliation, confinement, harassment,
extreme degree of pressure from ruling class, fear and aging nerves. I think he deserve sympathies rather contempt and derogation.
@Nazia!
“detail research on Ak Khan network from impartial sources.”
Impartial like IISS? :))
Gen: Jahangeer Karamat ? who received millions of dollar as a kick back in T 80 tanks deal? General with suspicious loyalty. Now living in America for passing the last days of his lives?
ISI which is turned into mafia gangsters? Kidnapping innocent people and sell them to Americans as Alquida operative for just few dollors.?
Where are the assets and bank account details of Dr.AQ khan? Is it inside Pakistan or out side Pakistan? If it is outside Pakistan then why world top investigating agencies are unable to detect those bank accounts? He must have billions of dollors.
Why they always need the confessions of Dr.A Q Khan? Where are the other people to testify against him?
Inside Pakistan we used to see many names from moulana fazul rehman to justice javed iqbal to many ournalists, even general pervez Musharraf owning valuable lands.. would you please identify the property of Dr.A Q Khan? Because I never listened that.
One moral thing:
Suppose I have a father, powerful and ruthless. We have the enemies even more powerful and ruthless. The enemies want to kill my entire family. Before they succeed in their plans, my father kills them all. Because My father killed his and my enemies, does is it appropriate me to call him comedian, dangerous or buffoon?
My father could be bad for whole world is it means that I should use the slang against my father?
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I am not contesting your or Pakistan's right to have Nuclear Deterrence but my only is "Did this deterrence work" in favour of Pakistan after 911. Cheney Helped Cover-Up Nuclear Proliferation in 1989 http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/05/dick-che…
Or in the words of Dr.A Q. “The bastards first used us and are now playing dirty games with us.” [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Simple answer! Why did you allow them to use you in the light of this. Why complain: A Q with Mush after 12 Oct 1999 [happy and good old days] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YGLQQZTHoU0/Sf8ImQvPRBI…
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ
O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. [AL-MAEDA (THE TABLE, THE TABLE SPREAD)
Chapter 5 Verse 51]
Amir Mughal,
So if at one point AQ supported Mush or if Imran supported Mush, then does it become a crime to be punished for life? even after the same persons went against him?
People call you L_U_C_E_E for no reason.
The same thing can be said about Bhutto then.
Bhutto supported Zia-ul-Haq, then why complain?
I am not contesting your or Pakistan's right to have Nuclear Deterrence but my only is "Did this deterrence work" in favour of Pakistan after 911
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According to my little understanding of world affairs,the nuclear deterrence worked not once or twice but thrice.
1) Kargil War
2) Attack on indian parliament
3) Attacks in Mumbai
What about after – 9/11. USA is slapping Pakistan Right, Left, Up and Down since that Telephone call so why this deterrence couldn't stop USA's constant fingering.
Things are different with america.Our establishment has a love(complete and unconditional submission)/hate(back biting) relation with USA.
Washington is a QIBLA for our many institutions like Foreign office and Pakistan Army.
When America started war against terror and attcked Afghanistan, Our "people" were jubilant on revival of Pak-American relations. We were proudly looking at india and saying:
"look at us,we become the partner of USA once again, the whole world is watching at us"
Of course it is one of many highly disgusting stories of pimping the nation.
If that is so then why complain.
@ Amir Mughal
I am not complaining because i believe in rewards,
punishments and consequences. My emphasis is only that this land produced not just theifs, thugs and corrupts in unprecedented numabers but also some great names. We need more selfless heroes capable of inspiring the youth of the pakistan.
because key of survival is in resistance not in following blindly.For resistance we need leaders like hugo chavez, & Ahmedi nijad not like pervez Musharraf.Ridiculing our few remaining heroes in the name of truth will disheartend the youth of Pakistan.
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
My comment were not aimed at you but at those [likes of Zaid Hamid] who want to build nation on lies, false beliefs and fairytale. Truth always helps.
Dr. Jawwad,
Amir Mughal would like to ridicule Pakistani Heroes, but would like to defend the corrupt peeplaz of PPP, see here…
https://teeth.com.pk/blog/2009/12/07/corruption-is…
read his comment #3. He has no complain against the bastart PPP member for admitting that "corruption is their right" rater he wants to blast the journalist for exposing this b!tch.
Aamir Mughal says:
December 7, 2009 at 3:28 am
Even worse is Mr Javed Chaudhry – Express News. [Sanctimonious Fascists]
So obviously his heroes are different from yours. His heroes are the ones who commit corruption and then be proud of it….so Zarardari Dakoo is in top of his list
LOL:)
qaimkhani says: March 14, 2010 at 9:28 pm Amir Mughal,
So if at one point AQ supported Mush or if Imran supported Mush, then does it become a crime to be punished for life? even after the same persons went against him? People call you L_U_C_E_E for no reason. The same thing can be said about Bhutto then. Bhutto supported Zia-ul-Haq, then why complain?
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Zia was supported by the USA and Zia also helped Israel so why complain????
NOW READ:
Charlie Wilson’s War by George Crile during the so-called Afghan Jihad following things did happen;
He told Zia about his experience the previous year when the Israelis had shown him the vast stores of Soviet weapons they had captured from the PLO in Lebanon. The weapons were perfect for the Mujahideen, he told Zia. If Wilson could convince the CIA to buy them, would Zia have any problems passing them on to the Afghans? Zia, ever the pragmatist, smiled on the proposal, adding, Just don’t put any Stars of David on the boxes {Page 131-132}.
General Zia ul Haq appointed a ‘Society Lady’ Joanne Herring as Pakistan’s honorary Consul in Houston, Texas USA, earlier her husband Bob Herring was offered the post but he declined and gave his wife’s name.
“She was Zia’s most trusted American adviser, as per Sahibzada Yaqub Khan, She absolutely had his ear, it was terrible,” “Zia would leave cabinet meetings just to take Joanne’s calls. “There was no affair with Zia,” Wilson recalls, but it’s impossible to deal with Joanne and not deal with her on sexual basis. No matter who you are, you take those phone calls.” {Page 67-68}.
On page 503 in Charlie Wilson’s War, the author quoted “but it was losing Zia that crushed Charlie. At the state funeral in Islamabad, with a million Pakistanis and Mujahideen crowding up to him, Charlie made his way to Akhtar’s successor, Hamid Gul, and broke into tears. “I have lost my father on this day,” he said.
Dr khan
When we select wrong leadership and keep the policy of silence as Mughal said for can of worms then these worms spread disease inside the can and that is going on in our system.
The characters like karamt, fazalu, Musharf have become fatal bacteria of can which poisoned their own surrounding as no check and balance system is prevailing in our governance.
People have no sense of patriotism left in their blood after getting opportunities to rise high or you can say that in our system those people get opportunity to fly high who can share the burden of corruption with their seniors.
So we have excellent professors, bureaucrats, doctors army officers,engineers in our surrounding but they are kept on low profile by strong mafia of corrupt using dirty tactics and they have to be pulled back.
In case of Aq khan, instead of him our actually hero should be in Dr Abdus salm in this nuclear technology but he was removed from the scene by using the blunt life of religion as he would have been not fit in the system that was requirement of rulers.So Dr salam was swapped by A Q khan
Now about your moral lesson story.
Our father should be our proud if he really fights for enemies to protect his family and surrounding but if he is interested in showing his power on weak people and with dirty tactics then he could have become curse for all of us.
You know in science of power the least power utilization for solving the critical issue is considered more powerful act in actual life.
if we think that he is wrong then we should try to stop him and if he still wants to indulge in show of power on weak groups then we should try to save others form his ruthless attitude.
if you are trying to equalize our army with one's father then you are wrong in equating as army is our paid guards and they have to limit their activities within barracks only instead of interfering in state matters.
Having bad tempered father is our hard luck and cant be avoided but army can be restricted to her duty by enforcing strong legitimate structure in the system .
Dear Ms. Nazia,
Only Muslim Heroes are acceptable in "Islamic Republic of Pakistan – Asli Tay Wada – Only Muslim Heroes are required and accepted.
DR JK SAID: For resistance we need leaders like hugo chavez, & Ahmedi nijad not like pervez Musharraf.Ridiculing our few remaining heroes in the name of truth will disheartend the youth of Pakistan.
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Why do we need nijad and hugo? will these kind of folks in Pakistan will able to give us Nejat from our present plight?
http://www.rense.com/general76/amak.htm
We should talk about according to our geo location and why did we create Pakistan and who can get out of us from our present predicament? It may be you yourself. It could be ME myself. It could be Mughal who can take us out. It could be Nazia as well who can set things straight.
Did you read above article.? Which says they all serve the same master. Nejad is a dummy put by Zionists but control by Kohmeni (an invisible religious force of Iran according to their belief)
We must confront our problems according to our geo-environment and our own belief which should be strong and individual must take initiative to come and fight for the system As i took step and wrote in my Profile.
I have got my own Rule and Wanna Rule 1st Pakistan 2nd wOrld. I knew sounds comical and i didn't get reign yet but The Whole World heard and feel fear and think that we ain't a death nation and we all should do the same. But many of us barely understand the wOrld.
Did you read above article.? Which says they all serve the same master. Nejad is a dummy put by Zionists but control by Kohmeni (an invisible religious force of Iran according to their belief) – We must confront our problems according to our geo-environment and our own belief which should be strong and individual must take initiative to come and fight for the system As i took step and wrote in my Profile.
I have got my own Rule and Wanna Rule 1st Pakistan 2nd wOrld. I knew sounds comical and i didn’t get reign yet but The Whole World heard and feel fear and think that we ain’t a death nation and we all should do the same. But many of us barely understand the wOrld.
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More than agreed.
thanks for correcting me.
When i said ahmedi nijad it doesn't mean literally ahmedi nijad,actually i was talking about the character of ahmedi nijad which is perceived by general public. i know very well the reality of iranian anti american and anti israeli rhetorics.
And along with David Icke this fact is described in details by many thinking minds.
rense.com is one of my favourite sites and i have already read this article.
Regarding your blog i still insist to reopen it.If you don't want to write then just paste the valueable articles there.
Best regards
symbol of same horn god..isn't that funny?
dr jawwad khan says: March 14, 2010 at 10:55 pm rense.com is one of my favourite sites and i have already read this article.
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RENSE also says
Of course, Kissinger and de Borchgrave are not alone in this perfidy. This news service has confirmed that there are allies of Zbigniew Brzezinski inside the National Security Council and elsewhere inside the Bush Administration, who are equally complicit in the pre-Sept. 11 boosting of the Taliban. Kissinger And Other Taliban Apologists Now Lead Drive For War Against Islam By Jeffrey Steinberg and Michele Steinberg Executive Intelligence Review 1-888-EIR-3258
http://www.larouchepub.com 11-13-1 http://www.rense.com/general16/apo.htm
US Gave Silent Backing To Taliban Rise To Power By Phillip Knightley The Guardian 10-8-1 http://www.rense.com/general14/rise.htm
LOL 🙂
but why dear?
you have to explain every thing because i don't have a time go throught the articles.
Dr khan
Hendrina Khan hotel, named after Dr Khan's Dutch wife, in the city of Timbuktu in the African state of Mali and you can find detail through this link
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan…
If you are interested in going there I could be your real guide.
http://hotels.lonelyplanet.com/Mali/Timbuktu-Tomb…
Now something from personal experince while passing to Sahra desert my tourist guide told em tht he could take us to a Pakistani hotel belong to Sharukh Khan.
We didnt believe him as why Pakistani come here to invest.
He told us that it was one of favorite resort of European tourists all the year and it would take 3 days via camel or 20 hrs by 4by 4.
But due to severity of route I refused it.Latter we confirmed that hotel belong to Dr khan.
Now why he invested such money there.
It might be due to interest of his European wife.
or secondly this area is located near to Alqaeda hideout where Americans and CIA are supplying aide and arms supply to nation locally known as polrasio a rejected nation by all nearby countries and they have same living style as we have here afghanis living between Pak Afghan border.
So I couldnt find more interest for him.
Mughal
Muslim heroes
yes they are really !
we have already discussed in detail and still carrying on research on their true Islamic ideology.
🙂 you guys are goooood 🙂
Ask the liberal and only genius PM of pakistan’s history…ZA Bhutto.
the fact is Dr.Abdul salam was his advisor in 1972(i am not sure) and at this time Munir Ahmed Khan (dr.Abdul salam closest friend) entered as a chairman of pakistan atomic energy commission.Munir Ahmed Khan was a well known, trusted and CERTIFIED agent of some “unknown” people. Both these guys made every possible thing to derail the process of nuclear research and development.
ZA Bhutto was fed of their non sense plans and almost convinced that they are the leaches hard to get rid of.
when in 1974? Dr.Abdul Qadeer Khan contacted Z A Bhutto, ZAB was more than happy to allow him to work in uranium enrichment to make a nuclear bomb.
and funny thing is that it was liberal and intelligent Z A Bhutto, who decided to cast the Qadiyanis away from Islam.
Because in his own word the Qadiyanis want to become zionist of pakistan.
what is the difference beetween Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan and dr abdul salam?
One got a nobel prize for himslef other got the nuclear bomb for pakistan….isn’t that right?
Can any one tell me whose achivement was far more beneficial for pakistan?
Muslim heoes did marvelous and unbelieveable jobs. I know two of them one is Quid e Azam and other is Dr.Abdul Qadeer Khan. Both did impossible things in their fields. My utmost reverance and love is for both of these guys. This nation when come out from its temporary insanity will definitely realize how great heroes we had.
@ Qaimkhani!
my memories are not good in these days. thanks for reminding me some thing useful.
@ Amir Mughal!
@ Nazia!
you guys are really very good :))
Oh dr khan
dont praise us any more as at least I cant bear this burden more than my capacity,
I give you some detail success story of Dr salam
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=200…
In those date where he was showing excellence in his field was the high time when developed nations are following this studies toward human development.In this era power generation , space sciences and agriculture revolution was created by nuclear scientists in first world countries and dr salam had all this in his job list.
As usual our leaders under miltiary mentality opted this modern studies for creating missiles and bombs.
Just to harass india and that is why Dr qadeer was picked .Since his induction, foul smell was sensed as he was receiving over due favour from miltiary regime and Bhutto like leaders.
Now you have nuclear bombs, modern missiles system and sophisticated tanks but your enemy has penetrated in your system and blowing themselves in front of your door step.
We have same absolete power generation system running under capacity keeping most of country in darkness.
You have no modern space science programs, nor gain any capability for agriculture revolution in this food shortage country.
But you have confined Qadeer khan with his all scandals of corruption, Bhuuto's corrupt heirs and an impotent nuclear bomb that even cant afraid a single suicidal bomber killing us on daily basis.
Dr I believe in result producing decisions.
This backward Pakistan having nuclear war heads shows madness of its rulers which were mostly military men and dr khan had got full share from such programs.
Now he is enjoying his prostate cancer life in 1000 yard house near Margalla hills like top class leaders,and 90%of our population is living like third or fourth world like citizens where war is going on , no jobs no health service and bas nam hay Allah ka and rest is all kind of groups of Mullahs around us.
i want to appreciate the whole team that how efficiently they have reflected the true picture of suicide bombers
dr jawwad khan says: March 15, 2010 at 8:50 pm LOL 🙂 but why dear? you have to explain every thing because i don’t have a time go throught the articles.
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
LOL was a reply to Mr Qaimkhani.
You would have to spare sometime to interpret RENSE [your favourite website] columns. My interpretation wouldn't be up to your standards.
DR JK SAID AT 39.2 on his comments.
JK, I've never met you and don't know what kind of doc you're as many did taunt on your doctory here but i never did all i read your comments which looks OK.
I feel we all have a very good potential. All we need to identify it and strive for it. We must identify our potential and must work ourselves rather we give other to identify our potential and exploit it for their own end.
Like you are a member of Jamat-e-Islami. Aren't you? I feel all parties whether be it religious or secular are part of the global agenda and they're working and using their workers for it without concealing the real agenda. Most of its Leaders are Marranos = Munafiqs.
That is why I started my blog profile. I do not belong to any political party despite I got few friends who are into politics sum are workers,MPAs, MNAs, rest you know what I wrote.
You must think and take initiative individually. As you are vocal about the revo in Pakistan but revo cannot be acheived by being part of any establish party.
We have to create our party, our potential, our thought-form, and our own belief which should be strong enuff like an iron so we can hammer it on the face of evil/enemy so their jaw crush into pieces and they deter to come in our way and we may prosper if not here then hereafter which is actually a real success.
This world is all illusion. You won't get Justice, Love, Truth, Beauty, Goodness in dis wOrld rather will get contrary to it.
Rense can be your fav site and you did read Makow above article b4 but i gave link because for others who might haven't read yet like Mr.Mughal, Ms.Nazia etc.
I am the one who got Mr. Makow both books without any charge. He sent to me in PDF format and we communicate with each other and I sent my few articles to him b4 creating my Kool blog.
Why did he send me his book without any charge which cost you around 55 dollars? because I do think singly and keep me away from this corrupt system and keep hate in my heart for all of them…A2Z are A$$-wholes. Makow feel the same.
In conclusion; I feel Internet has given a "carte-blanche" to every1 to create a blog and post whatever against anyone as I stated in my previous post of Teeth name Cyber Censorship which you can read under my nick Ya-sir.
Thanks, you feel that I should reopen my blog but I feel contrary because there's already a plethora of free stuff and so many conspiracy theorists who are exposing conspiracy so better read em. I think I have done my work in my early months when I created the blog(karachi-kool)in July 09 and gotta 1000 hits in my 1st month plus my blog link was running I told which one can dream only.
I feel now I won't be able to derive traffic more and post more stuff as I already chose most hardest and critical subject to write, You're the witness. Posting/Pasting other stuff will be a bullshit. I feel now time for some practical rather than sitting on bums in front of PCs and reading/writing, nothing gonna change if you won't fight and will never get any "revo" which you seek. gotcha?
http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html
*without concealing the real agenda = without showing the real agenda to their workers. Its clear. All correct above
But must read below link which you haven't read yet it will give you jolts and will give you a true and exact idea about what the hell is goin on in our wOrld.
It's very very lengthy and hard to grasp in 1st sight unless you read many times but read it slowly till end and get the biggest picture as I am tired and goin for vacation and mite not pass comments.
Once again, I ain't against any individual but against system. I am sorry if i hurt anyone as you know I am very "mau-phat" and the system make me so sick that sumtimes i do use harsh and hard language which could hurt but this all for those Marranos aka Converso aka Munafiqs aka PIGs who make us raven.
We Muslims all are brothers and sisters and but our poli parties has divided us and put hatred on our hearts for one another and doin their dirty/devil work to keep us in dark.
This is the age of darkness and no one will flourish in it
We have to shine the light in order to fight the darkness. It's up to you how will you shine. gotcha?
Allah Hafiz
guyasir
I am still unable to read your right identity but your writing clear indicates that you are trying to pose in different way other than your thoughts.
it is good to hear that you have come close to practical life more as per your words to see the change in the system as it is more need of time.
our libraries, newspapers,magazines, literature are filled with good moral lessons, teachings, preachings extraordinary theories of real life, modern perception but nothing match with disorderliness of real system in our surroundings.So I appreciate your inclination toward real life other than blog world.
I am not against of this blog world but one thing I found that in our culture the people of almost same IQ, Attitude, and caliber are gathering here.No matter we all oppose each other with full parallel forces but we all have same platform of nationalism inside our perception based usually on bitter experiences. We can convince each other on different right and wrong distorted facts of history and present situation but for cleaning the mess we have to jump in drain holes and our whole society is showing us scene of overflow of drains all over the area.
So we have to play active role in community as long as we can or as much as we have strength.For sharing in such forum can be different social experience which must share with some time management but depending on this type for bringing some change is not very good idea.The mafia force has developed its network on blogs too that is why our terrorists brothers are more expert in delivering their activities and messages to harass us than our forces who are still unable to protect us for last 7 years.
I am not against of this blog world but one thing I found that in our culture the people of almost same IQ, Attitude, and caliber are gathering here
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Do not put me in this same IQ, Attitude and Caliber. I'm Unique, 2. Insightful, 3. Poetic
I'm completely diff than others. You can get like I took few quizzes on facebook like who are you….really? I gotta result of "Philosopher." 2nd quiz I took, What does your name says about you? gotta result "The 21st Century Einstein"
3rd quiz I took was IQ Test. And I gotta result 109 which above Good. I swear all are 1st attempt result instead of many and isn't it make me completely distinguish than all of U.
I am still unable to read your right identity but your writing clear indicates that you are trying to pose in different way other than your thoughts.
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It is your hallucinatory, go for checkup and cum out from your halluci-Nation in which you live.
Yasir
It is good to hear that you are going for vacation as it is best time to sit on computer and read as much web sites.If I would have some chance at least I can prefer it in my vacation time.You have requested us to read your provided link in above comment which is tooooooooooo lengthy and all have no time even for vacation.
I really missed Mughal some interesting topics as again it has looooooooooong network of links which is very difficult for hyper active person having lot of responsibilities to read for hours and hours.So I saved it and when ever free time go for it if GOd will give me long free time.
So in this vacation try to summaries your link to make it readable for low IQ people like me.
I wasn't commenting here since Sept 09 to Feb 10 but i was coming time to time and reading Teeth posts and its comments.
In this month I noticed that few guys are teasing and pinging you, like calling you Khala, aunty etc.
JK also did tease/taunt you. Didn't you notice i tried to stopped JK that plz dont tease Nazia let her comments which are sane and good? I have found nothin wrong in her comments.
I give respect to woman if she doesn't like respect then I don't hesitate to strip em in front of public.Sorry my intention never be but in the case if one doesn't like respect then i do.
Neither I against Mr.Mughal, he's doin a good job as well but my point was that when i said don't be super-fluous is that do write in a terse style, keep it short! Weed out unnecessary words. Words are our currency. Don't inflate it, remain 2 the point and give chance others 2 write because one have to have read your comments which is the case here rather one should come and pass his/her comments regardless of how long and blabbered you write.
George Bernard Shaw had the best advice. "Have something original to say and say it in the most candid straight-forward way possible."
dr jawwad khan says: March 15, 2010 at 8:50 pm but why dear? you have to explain every thing because i don’t have a time go throught the articles.
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Go through the news item below and watch again the Iran Contra Documentary and other documentaries on Afghan War, you may find many characters active in those days are also active in the news below.
Complete background is as under:
From left: Michael D. Furlong, the official who was said to have hired private contractors to track militants in Afghanistan and Pakistan; Robert Young Pelton, a contractor; Duane Clarridge, a former C.I.A. official; and Eason Jordan, a former television news executive. Contractors Tied to Effort to Track and Kill Militants By DEXTER FILKINS and MARK MAZZETTI Published: March 14, 2010 A version of this article appeared in print on March 15, 2010, on page A1 of the New York edition. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/15/world/asia/15co…