Dogar’s Daughter get her marks increased – Is that Justice?

Ansar Abbasi in his article in The News today reveals a very alarming discovery concerning the daughter of Chief Justice of Pakistan, Abdul Hameed Dogar.. Farah Hameed Dogar had recently appeared in the FSc Exams [12 grade] and when in August the results were announced she had barely passed with 640 marks placing her in Grade ‘C’. The low grade actually then prevents her from applying into the much sought after Medical colleges in Punjab. But after some underhanded effort she was able to get her mark sheet re-issued at 661 marks making her reach the new Grade ‘B’ and hence forth making her eligible to apply to any Medical college in the province

On 20th & later again on 29th August, Farah applied to the examination board for a ‘re-tabulation’ of her marks, which is the only possile solution before physically reappearing for another exam. The examination department re-calculates the marks in an attempt to figure out any discrepancy in the addition of the mark, but the papers are never re-evaluated. The re-checking helped Farah increase her grand total by only one mere mark landing her at 641

After having exhausted all permissible means to increase the grade it seems she thence forth received a helping hand for the Board chairman who some how managed to have examiners re-examine her paper and that process help nudge her into the Grade B situation.

The News 25th Nov 2008: On September 10, 2008 Chairman of the Board, Commodore Shamshad wrote on the file: “Pl. have the answer books of this candidate re-assessed.” This was a clear violation of the FBISE rules but following the chairman’s written orders, the concerned officials complied and it was noted on the file: “Special arrangement may please be made, as directed by the chairman.”

The fast forward process set in. Examiners who had originally checked her papers were summoned and asked to re-mark the papers. The examiner of Biology wrote: “Re-checked and marks awarded are strictly according to the (original) marking scheme. However, in Q No 4, 01 mark has been increased due to error in total, which is now 12 out of 13. So the total marks are now 70 (seventy only).”

The examiner of Pak-Studies wrote: “Rechecked and marks awarded are found up to the mark and found according to the marking scheme. No more mark can be awarded.”The examiner of Chemistry wrote: “Paper rechecked and marks awarded are up to the mark and no more marks can be awarded.”

However, the documents reveal, that on September 13, the examiner of English paper Munir Hussain Anjum of F G College for Men, H-9 Islamabad, reassessed the paper and increased the marks from the previous 58 to 67; the examiner of Urdu paper Dr Ale-Azhaur Aanis of F G Sir Syed College Rawalpindi reassessed the paper and increased the marks from the previous 62 to 67; and the examiner of Physics paper Ejaz Ahmad in his re-assessment increased the marks from the previous 32 to the pre sent 38.

After this extraordinary addition of numbers after re-marking, the file moved upward from one desk to the higher desk and reached the chairman’s office for approval. The recommendation for the chairman was: “Due to above change, marks have been enhanced and result position will be of 661 marks instead of previous 640 marks. The case is forwarded for consideration marks and having approval of enhancement of marks from 640 to 661 in relaxation of existing rules (Vol-II) as directed, please.”

The question that must be asked, is this truly the only efficient use of the office of Chief Justice of Pakistan. Whatever happened to Justice as expected from a Chief Justice of Pakistan!!


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51 responses to “Dogar’s Daughter get her marks increased – Is that Justice?”

  1. Talkhaba Avatar

    Dr Sb what esle do you expect from Dogar?

  2. aMmAr Avatar

    Istrah tau hota hai… istarah kai milko mai 😛

    As for Justice; awam needs roti kaparaa and makaan. Justice gya bhaar mai.

  3. freedom Avatar
    freedom

    This is Pakistan, what else u expected fools

  4. Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar Avatar
    Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar

    two questions come to mind:

    1) how dumb is she? she couldn’t even secure even 640 by herself and needed her bashtard little daddy to help her? if I remember the FSc system, getting 640 wasn’t difficult. I remember most of the kids in my school used to score above 800… she must be extraordinarily retarded.

    2) we’ve established that she is a retard. now, to compensate for her lack of mental ability, is she at least hot? if she is, that would temper the blow.

  5. Abdullah Tayyab Avatar
    Abdullah Tayyab

    thats “CHIEF JUSTICE” 🙂

  6. Arshad H. Zubairi Avatar
    Arshad H. Zubairi

    Awab, hope this reminds our school and college days when we were all try our level best to paper out before the examination and fortunately we did most of the time. We all in some or other way involve in these activities even in form or cheating (pharas) then why only that girl should be belame.. What your previous Justice Sahib did with his son?? petrol bills?? Medical Bills?? and other……..
    You all are happy for him getting the so called medal from bar of the country who is involve in most of the human and law violation (remember Ms. Aafia Siddiqui) and your Mr. Imran Khan always critizing that country hence you are enjoying and celebrating the medal.. is this a true representation..
    You should remember the way Mr. Imran Khan got into the Pakistan Cricket team????

    In last I would like you all to first scrutinize yourself then critizing the others..

  7. Zaki Khalid Avatar

    Um,
    don’t u think its a normal increase or something?
    I mean my younger brother too was given a mere 300 marks in 9th board exams out of 470. We had the papers rechecked and it amounted to a new mark-sheet of 382!!

    Ansar Abbasi’s gone mad…

  8. Arshad H. Zubairi Avatar
    Arshad H. Zubairi

    Zaki Khalid, good going you are exactly right….

  9. Insaf Tiger Avatar
    Insaf Tiger

    what a studpid justification you are giving, “this is Pakistan”!

    Arshad H. Zubairi and Zaki Khalid, please don’t tell your Aaqa, Altaf Bhai (the terrorist) to wrap Ansar Abbasi in a boori and take off his skin!

    Jeet humesha huq aur sach kii hee ho ge..

    Ansar Abbasi Zindabad!

  10. Saim Baig Avatar

    Wah rey Justice !!

  11. Saad Avatar
    Saad

    Mr. Zaki Khalid and Mr. Arshad H. Zubairi it is much easier for you people to just write a comment instead of understanding the problem. The problem is by any means and according to the laws defined by these Examination Boards it is not allowed to REMARK an answer sheet once it has been marked, only RECOUNTING of marks are allowed. Marks once given can only be changed by reappearing in exams. And fortunately or unfortunately answer copies of Miss Farah H Dogar were REMARKED here which is in total violation of LAW. Our patron of law, our SUPEREME JUDGE SHAIB should be aware of these laws!!! For the time being Justice Iftikhar is history for this nation… And please if you are fond of commenting then kindly tell me is the post of Chief Justice made for this nation just for personal benefits that whoever occupies this seat works for his own benefits???
    And Mr. Mutazalzaluzzaman Tarar sorry to say but please try to focus on real issue instead of describing your achievements, not everyone is genius like you 😛

  12. Raheem Avatar
    Raheem

    I still remember that when I was doing my Fsc. Pre. Engr. I had below average marks ( due to my other interest at the time) and I ran from pillar to post to get them increased but of no vail. Eventually I had to write SAT and come to US to do my Engineering.

    I don’t think increasing one’s marks is that easy for an average citizen. And I am glad that all of my means to get them increased failed. Today, I can count my self as a top achiever in my firm’s Engineering department.

    Every One needs to learn from their failures, I am not sure If Ms. Farah Dogar will become a better Doctor with a ‘safarish’.

  13. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    it is really very unfortunate and very scary that people who are suppose to be behind the bars or under the graves acquire the highest posts of paksitan.
    president, prime minister, ministers ,chief justice , army generals…..is hammam men sab nangay hen.

  14. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    in ke nam hi dekh lijiye
    DOGAR
    KHOKAR
    THOKAR
    BANTAR
    PANTAR
    SAREY HARAMI HAM QAFIYA HEN. hahahahahhahahahahahhaha

  15. Barrister Ali K.Chishti Avatar
    Barrister Ali K.Chishti

    It’s a sad day although let’s not forget the former chief justice Iftikhar Chaudry did something similar where he influenced personally to get his failure son to wear a police uniform….

  16. Talkhaba Avatar

    @Barrister Ali K.Chishti
    Wrong is wrong no matter it is done by anyone. However the allegation against Arsalan Chaudhry couldn’t be proved. It was the misstatement of Naeem Bukhari who himself is very controversial man. There is no need to mention the basis of his enmity with Nawaz Shareef and friendship with Musharraf.

  17. osman Avatar
    osman

    Completely legal according to our courts. visa vi the
    Doctrine of necessasity.

    She needed them marks to become a doctor.Dont you see It was necessary.

    He had no choice.

    Us kai chootay chootay bachay hain.

    It was in supreme national interest.

    When she is practicing medicine she will really be practicing on you.

    Dr. Dogar to you.

    Ansar Abassi is da man.

  18. Unaiza Fatima Avatar
    Unaiza Fatima

    This is how some people can befool the public.
    First of all, the image in the begining of the post is NOT AT ALL a FBISE mark sheet. I did FSc from FBISE and the mark sheet is WAY different. The image is NOT scanned (as it is clear)and is clearly edited. I don’t know why some people try to befool people in this age of computers. Even a 12 years old child can make a better “mark sheet” on a computer than this one.
    Secondly, if Dogar is THAT influential, why he couldn’t arrange the question paper before exam…an allegedly common practice by people who enjoy some influence.

  19. Teeth Maestro Avatar

    For Unaiza – Have a look at the Federal Board Inter and Secondary Education – FBISE Website and type in the Roll Number 545207 in the search field, it will take you to this page Results Page of all students of her college scroll down to the roll number 545207 and click on Farah Hameed Dogar’s name to see the entire result

    Farah Hameed Dogar’s Result

    The marvels of a digital world

  20. Unaiza Fatima Avatar
    Unaiza Fatima

    @ I didn’t know it was the online result. To me it seemed like the “sifarish letter”.
    I think he and her daughter should be tried in the court of justice and shamed publicly for practicing their right of getting papers rechecked.
    On the other hand, the CJ should himself resign on his daughter getting B-grade even AFTER correction!!! I am not degrading the B-Grade but from a highly literate background, one expects a little more.

  21. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    @unaiza fatima
    ooops! what happened unaiza.why surrendered so earlier.you are defender of some thing(i have no decent word for that)you should not give up like that.

  22. Arslan Javed Avatar
    Arslan Javed

    As he become Chief Justice in the same he wants his daughter follows his foot steps,, atleast guyz u know first inspiration is always Father…….
    As much he is fair we should expect same….???

  23. Unaiza Fatima Avatar
    Unaiza Fatima

    @ Dr. Jawwad khan
    You got me wrong. Satisfy me with reason and I am on your side. But if you keep repeating the same chant without rhyme and reason, then we have a problem. For example I oppose Zardari and PPP bitterly, but if you denounce him without reason, I defend him.
    CJs daughter got B-grade…shame on him.
    Got his daughter’s marks rechecked…just practiced his right. I would defend him if he practiced that.

  24. saad12 Avatar
    saad12

    I just wanted to comment on this recent wave of exposing the kids of members of the govt. and the ruling establishment. while i think putting up private pictures of the sons and daughters of govt. officials is a pretty distasteful and disgusting act. i think that this latest news item suggests that the knives are out for everyone who is part of the ruling clique and is part of a systematic campaign to bring down this current govt. by exploiting every minor loophole and folly of theirs!!
    nevertheless this news item does suggest that there is a healthy trend prevalent in the media today of standing up to and exposing injustice!

  25. osman Avatar
    osman

    I think its more than just rules being broken and misuse
    of power as in regarding of the papers.

    Its now obvious that she need 660 marks to get into
    islamic medical college on judges quota as reported in
    the news today.

    Now even with regrading its highly unlikely that her
    score would increase just enough to get into that school.

    Probablistically, he numbers have been increased to meet
    her need for admission rather than being a re assesment.

  26. Anwar Sultan Avatar
    Anwar Sultan

    – Dogar obtained 8 million dollar loan after becoming the Chief Justice.
    – Dogar committed high treason by supporting Musharraf’s PCO and taking oath under it.
    – Dogar put his daughter above the law and violated the rights of millions of Pakistani children.

    Dogar should be tried for his crimes.

  27. yaseen ch Avatar

    well,fbise has cleared this case that actually 201 students were granted the changed marks after rechecking .

  28. VKA Avatar
    VKA

    This is one of the living examples picked it up by Ansar Abbasi so openly – perhaps thousand may be unearthed when this DOGAR SHAHI COURT be removed?

    As the Head of State is corrupt as certfied by NRO 2007-08, most of the Ministers are corrupt? How these CORRUPT JUNTA expect others to work SELFLESSLY without getting self-benefit when all are just benefiting in their own way ? Some one has got High Post for his Father? Some gets beneifts for her daughter? Some hired daughter of a corrupt beureaucrat as an Advisor? Most Corrupt fugitive becomes Security Advisor? What else you expect?

    Nothing more than such nonsense act.

  29. Ejaz Asi Avatar
    Ejaz Asi

    Apart from moral and legal problems this issue raises, I can’t help but contemplate the future of Ms. Farah. She got 58/100 in Biology I, 48/100 in Chemistry I and 43/100 in Physics I. Most of parents would want their kids re-appear to improve their marks if they want to pursue highly competitive and hard-working degree such as Medical. Where would this lead Ms. Farah? Why is she even trying to get a degree in Medical Profession when it’s all clear she’s hopelessly average. Of course anyone with terribly average marks CAN appear and get a degree of Medical if he/she so desires but I doubt if Ms. Farah wants to sit in an average medical college, pass with an average degree and serve Tando Adam’s villages or something.

    What if she DOES NOT want this degree at all like many many episodes everyone, I am sure, have seen in this country where Parents make the choices. How terrible the cost of shame would she NOW have to pay for a choice she NEVER made. What horrible decision of increasing mere one mark and putting a blot and a big question mark on one’s life and actions.

    I feel so proud of my parents more than ever. I was pretty average in certain subjects I never was forced to pursue any further and luckily found a profession which I just love and respected for what I do. I hope Ms. Farah sees the wisdom of not following lost dreams and wrong paths. She doesn’t have to. She doesn’t have to bear the consequences of her father’s actions or ill-actions. She has the choice and freedom to decide what she wants however small and un-commercial that professional may be as long as she sleeps with satisfaction.

  30. Saghir Ahmed Avatar
    Saghir Ahmed

    big shame on the justice hameed dogar a person who uses his office to get personal benefit can never do justice with the nation

  31. Shafiq Rehman Avatar

    Dogar is a true Chief Injustice of Pakistan.

  32. Adnan Ali Avatar

    Let us give the man benefit of doubt. What if he is just like our beloved PM Gilani who’s good name is being misused by either her sister or some one claiming to be her sister. Perhaps Mrs. Dogar is looking after her child in a overwhelming maternal fit. Mr. Dogar might not even know as he is busy meting justice.

    Given all that, let us be prudent and empathetic, Mr. Dogar should announce that it was totally wrong of who ever initiated this on his behalf, the chairman of the board, the teachers who increased marks and send show cause notices to all parties involved for bringing his name to shame.

    Then he should step down as chief justice as would happen in any society.

    By the way, as an after thought: Chief justices of the western countries do not wash their behinds after doing their business, but they would still step down unlike our clean-behind Mr. Dogar.

  33. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    @unaiza fatima!
    “You got me wrong. Satisfy me with reason and I am on
    your side. But if you keep repeating the same chant
    without rhyme and reason”

    is that so?……
    ok i give you one chance
    would you please condemn the MQM for killing of 40 pakistani citizen on 12 october 2007?
    best regards

  34. ali Avatar
    ali

    Leave it people. Its CJ who cannot hold his trousers while attending in public so what do u think? We are having stupid pepole currently justicing for us.
    All should raise a voice for it.

  35. Unaiza Fatima Avatar
    Unaiza Fatima

    @Dr Jawwad Khan
    Yes. I will condemn that loud and clear, ONLY AFTER the nation condemns the extrajudicial killings of thousands of MQM activists and neutral Karachiites in 90’s, and vows to bring to justice those who were responsible. YES I WILL condemn loud and clear, when you will not exclude 15 or so MQM activists who were killed too, on the day of skirmish of armed men with armed men on both sides.

  36. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    hahahahahahahahhahahah
    some one said once that:
    silence is better than lame excuses.

  37. Unaiza Fatima Avatar
    Unaiza Fatima

    @Dr. Jawwad Khan
    Do I need to repeat myself?
    CJ’s daughter is neither the first person to get her marks improved after rechecking nor the last. He just followed a procedure that is there for decades. If it is proven that he used unfair means to get the marks improved and didn’t deserve that, I will be on your side.
    I said I am ready to condemn LOUD AND CLEAR, if everyone joins me to condemn loud and clear to every atrocity done against Urdu speaking community over several years. For example, I do not stand with Ch. Iftikhar’s stand for the missing people because he never included dozens of MQM workers and other people who were arrested and later made to disappear after operation against MQM in 90’s. His stand is ONLY for political gains and he does not have any true sympathy for them, that is why he never spoke about Aafia Siddiqui while winning medals and awards right at the doorsteps of her captivity. Iftikhar is just a political player, nothing more.

  38. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    @LOUD AND CLEAR!
    RIGHTEOUSNESS ia always loud and clear withoud any “if” and “buts”.
    conditionalities are unacceptable to any civilised society when it comes to criminals who took lives.
    difficult to understand?……….
    ask the defenders of suicide bombing.
    there reasonings are full of “ifs” and “buts”

  39. Unaiza Fatima Avatar
    Unaiza Fatima

    @ Dr. Jawwad Khan
    You didn’t get my point.
    I neither support any injustice or terror nor any half truths. I have seen 90’s atrocities in Karachi with my own eyes. I have seen dead bodies of young boys after police shootings being thrown in police vehicles like dead animals. When you guys talk of injustice but purposefully ignore the same against people of Karachi and Hyderabad (as if nothing happened or it was right), I shout at you partiality. Half truth is no truth. You only talked of 40 people killed by MQM in armed skirmish but intentionally ommitted more than a dozen MQM workers who were killed in the same riot, this is bias. Why your RIGHTEOUSNESS is full of “ifs” and “buts” itself? When you purposefully turn a blind eye to the killings of thousands of Karachiites and only talk of MQMs actions, then I am no different. MQM is bad, so is everyone, from Imran Khan to Hamid Mir to Nawaz Shareef to Qazi to Fazl to Zardari to Dogar to Chaudhury to Teeth to me and you. Everyone is corrupt, opportunist, hungry for more power.

    @ Anwar Sultan
    Chaudhury committed high treason by supporting Musharraf’s PCO and taking oath under it.
    -Chaudhury should be tried for his crimes.
    Why be biased??

  40. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    what does it mean?

    that the killing is smaller crime than safarish.

    you can condemn the cj for using safarish for her daughter

    which is a general pakistani habbit.

    but you are not ready to condemn the MQM for much bigger crimes.

    your logics and reasonings are beyond my comprehension.

  41. M.Ishaq Avatar
    M.Ishaq

    so what if doggars daughter got marks. thousands of people do get like that. and no one points that. so many illagalities are in HEC. so many people went and going abroad ( many having relatives in HEC or having high links). and no one points to that.
    i got 734 marks in fsc, no medical college excepted me. recently i qulified for hec scholarship and on the last moment my scholarship got cancelled, for having no reason. wrote to atta ur rehman, no action was taken. hell was my carrer. but this is life. a life of a common person
    I therefore salute the people who violates the law.
    long live farrh doogar.

  42. M.Ishaq Avatar
    M.Ishaq

    Farrah

    keep on violating the laws and rules.
    and do not hear what people say. hell goes the people. and hell goes the law and rule.

    AND REMEMBER
    LAWS ARE FOR COMMON PEOPLE. -Bourgeois

  43. M.Ishaq Avatar
    M.Ishaq

    what is illegal in this.
    if she wants to become doctor, she wants to serve the nation and humanity.
    and she has full right to do in achieving her desire.

    and some one said
    “concentrate on winning the game to hell how you play that”

    can some one give me email address of farrah dogar pls
    just wanted to congratulare her on achieving sucess.

    pls email me mu_ishaq@yahoo.com

  44. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    Yes! i also saw that horrible time.
    late 80’s and early 90’s was the bloody era after migration for Urdu speaking peoples.
    i know exactly what you feel because I shared the same feelings. i was also frustrated. Those incidents shook the foundations of my faith.
    but to avoid prolixity i will just say that if you get the time when you found yourself free from prochialism and prejudice. when your human intellect is on full bloom,
    at that time try to analyse what went wrong.
    my conclusion was simple ” every one crossed the thin red line”
    but please:
    “two wrong does not make a thing right”

    RIGHTEOUSNESS!
    yes righteousness in actual meaning is a rare commodity in this period of time.
    but tell me what should i do if i fall in the dirt.
    should i try to come out or
    should i dive deeper in that dirt?

    the only difference between justice iftikhar and justice dogar is that justice iftikhar tried to come out of the dirt.

  45. Unaiza Fatima Avatar
    Unaiza Fatima

    @M Ishaq
    Aap kin chakkaron mein hain??
    Do you think his daughter may be having a hard time and would give attention to anyone who supports her? You are fooling yourself 😉
    Yeh baray log hain. They fight each other and involve the whole nation in disputes, then sit together and enjoy the show.

  46. Unaiza Fatima Avatar
    Unaiza Fatima

    @M.Ishaq
    Sorry I didn’t read your preceding comments!

  47. Solidify Avatar
    Solidify

    @M.Ishaq:

    Sorry to hear about what happened to your scholarship. That IS terrible. Hang in there buddy!

  48. dr.jawwadkhan Avatar
    dr.jawwadkhan

    @M.ishaq!
    thousands of apologies.please do not take it seriously.i know it is a difficult time for you.i know because every one experience this decisive time of life.
    when every other thing is seems sense less and meaningless except carrier.
    but dear life is like a flowing water and itself make its ways as live move on you shall realize that many times some thing good comes out in total darkness of flustering state of mind.
    and believe me after 6 years of studies and 10 years of practice i can say that being a doctor is not a chief excellence not a highest point of life.
    in the end thousands of apologies.
    take care and do not give up.
    best regards

  49. Zaki Khalid Avatar

    @ Insaf "Tiger"

    hey there…

    i didnt know people still eat tiget bisuits…

    your typical 'andaaz' or replying first made me laugh, and then sick…

    I haven't defended Dogar, neither I WILL, neither I CAN.

    And many ppl here dont notice the aspect I'm trying to clear. Come to Lhr and see for yourself… I myself gave exams through BISE Lahore (recently did Fsc. Pre Engring, now Software Engg).

    I used to tutor at an academy in johar town… 3 of my students got low marks. I told them to get their papers rechecked. They did. And the BISE LAHORE STAFF THEMSELVES ADMITTED TO THEIR ERRORS AND GAVE THEM THE TRUE MARKS THEY DESERVED.

    The pt. here is, it's stupid to say that RECHECKING and REMARKING are different things… it's very simple… u get low marks, if u want, get the papers rechecked. ONLY IF there were errors in ur marking, ull get more grades (which u deserve). I gave the example of my younger brother. He said several times : "Zaki bhai, I'm 100% sure that I can't get that low marks in Maths". I took him to the BISE Lahore office. I saw his paper and except for 3 multiple choice questions and 1 part of a long question, his paper was correct. the management apologised and awarded him his deserving marks. the system here ain't THAT corrupt, u guys have become TOO paranoid…

    dogar saab might have raised his daughters marks… fine… she's still a teenager probably…

    i dont care what he did, all I know is that YOU PEOPLE TOO have ruined her psyche and damaged the girl's profile… like a SOCIAL RAPE or VERBAL WHIPPING…

    shame on dogar if he really did such an act…

    but more shame on those who psychologically hurt farah dogar…

    i can only hint at what i would feel like if the whole country starts pointing fingers @ me…

    i dont have proof, thats why i wont take either sides…

    but one thing i do know, is that before ruining someone's life, i'll first find 100% CREDIBLE EVIDENCE. Who knows she got more marks because her paper had been checked improperly? here's a question: do u think Dogar is THAT STUPID to get himself maligned again? Dont u think be4 doing something like this he would have known that the media could possibly investigate something like this?

    A father he is, atleast, he would have thought twice before risking his daughters insult…

    And he isn't responding, I guess, because maybe, maybe, he doesn't need to defend such a useless claim which for him might be a conspiracy…

    I advise you all to plz go through Ayah 6 of Surah Hujurat. What could be a more enlightening verse in The Qur'an…

    think abt it, i dont give a damn about u backlashing me again…