Yesterday on ARY in the show ‘Off the Record’ with Kashif Abbasi he interviewed Imran Khan and MQM MNA Mr. Haider Abbas Rizvi. In the heated debate around the 26th minute of the telecast Haider Abbas Rizvi entangles with Imran Khan challenging him to prove with documentary evidence that the Canadian Courts may have declared MQM as a terrorist organization taking the challenge to vacate his MNA if he were to bring documentary proof to support the claim
Click over to on Awaz.tv to watch the show – fast forward to 26:40 minute marker, where Haider Abbas Rivzi brings up the Canadian challenge.
With all the confidence brimming from TV interview maybe its now time to help refresh Mr. Rizvi’s memory with full references to a few Canadian Federal court rulings questioning MQM as a terrorist organization
MOHAMMED KASHIF OMER vs THE MINISTER OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION – May 3, 2007
The decision stated –
Having reviewed the Board’s reasons in light of the evidence presented, I find that the conclusion of the Board to the effect that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the MQM is an organization that engages, has engaged or will engage in terrorism, is reasonable.
The National Post reported the story
The head of the Quebec branch of a Pakistani political party is facing deportation after the Federal Court of Canada ruled he belonged to an organization that committed terrorism. The judge upheld the deportation of Mohammed Kashif Omer, a resident of Montreal, on the grounds he is a member of the Mothaidda Quami Movement, or MQM.
A quick search of the Federal Courts of Canada website reveal a few more cases with MQM can be seen here
- Iftikhar Shoaq Jalil vs The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration
- Naeem v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration)
- Jilani v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration)
- Ali v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.),
- Mohammed v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.)
- Baqri v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (T.D.)
Though these are all federal court rulings and it may technically be incorrect to say that Canadian Supreme Court has declared MQM as a terrorist organization. However, since the federal court judgment has not been challenged in the Supreme Court of Canada, the judgment of the Federal Court stands throughout the territory of Canada as a precedence and hence the interpretation would easily signify that MQM may actually be a terrorist organization
Is it time to show Mr. Haider Rizvi the door out of the Parliament – or will he unabashedly cling onto his seat?
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BTW, I will be sending a slap and posting the actual Judgment very soon!
The distractions like Imran Khan and Alvis are the real fitnas and holds a lot of Nuisance Value …
Our real enemy today are the Talibans who endangers the vision of Quaid-e-Azam Lets Unite and Fight for the cause and not get distracted from Taliban Apologists …
Allah Un Ko Hidayat Day!
Ah, the wily ol’Awab with his MQMphobia…..!!!!
Anyways, let me clear some facts about the Canadian High Court Judgment,
Two members of the MQM who applied for refugee status or "asylum" in Canada have received dramatically different judgments: One was declared a member of a terrorist group, the other accepted as a legitimate refugee. At a same time a large number of MQM supporters actually got asylum or right to stay not only in Canada but in UK and various countries as well thanks to the genocide in 90’s.
Canada is not an exception where decisions in remarkably similar cases based on the same package of government evidence — highlights the difficulties of handling security cases and has drawn judicial consternation.
Let me quote a Canadian Newspaper here,
"The packages of documentary evidence in the two cases were the same, the time frame the same, and the issue to be determined was the same," writes Michael L. Phelan, a Federal Court of Canada judge, in a judgment published yesterday.
"In one case a member held an organization not to be engaged in terrorism, while in the instant case, on the very same evidence, the member found that the organization had engaged in terrorism," he ruled.
The failure to explain the basis for the different conclusion undermines the integrity of Immigration Authority's decisions and gives them an aura of arbitrariness which is no doubt not intended nor is it acceptable.
The answer, for Judge Phelan, was to send the case of Mohammad Ashraf Siddiqui in which the Muthida Qaumi Movement (MQM) was found to be an organization that engaged in terrorism back to the Immigration and Refugee Board for a fresh hearing.
The case of the second man, Javed Memon in which evidence of terrorist involvement by the MQM was dismissed also remains in "dispute" mysteriously.
And again we have to look at the end result? Did the deportation actually take place? No it did not.
I agree with is point of view. Its a known fact that Alvi and his family is associated with PTI and his comments are always biased.
Ah daddy’s using the baby boy, Awab !
As for the folks like Haider Abbas Rizvi is concerned, the guy actually ran and won from one of the biggest and most educated contencies in Karachi and Pakistan , Gulshan Town where MQM actually lost previous 3 elections…
• Registered Votes398527
• Votes Polled156342
• Valid Votes152843
• Rejected Votes274
Hamid Idrees Sunni Tehreek 41
Khadim Hussain Independent 29
Khawaja Ghulam Hussain Pakistan Peoples Party (Shaheed Bhutto) 50
Durre Shahwar Pervez Independent 183
Dr. Muhammad Imtiaz Subhani Independent
12 Saboohuddin Malik Pakistan Muslim League (N) 4160
Sultan Shahab Jahangir Pakistan Muslim League 1025
Syed Asghar Hussain Independent 77
Syed Haider Abbas Rizvi Muttahida Qaumi Movement Pakistan 96973 Votes
Syed Rizwan Ahmed Jamhoori Wattan Party 119 S
yed Faisal Raza Abidi Pakistan Peoples Party Parliamentarians 47101
Shaikh Qasim Shah Independent 36
Qadir Khan Mandokhail Advocate Independent 148
Col.(R) Abdul Jabbar Abbasi Independent 22
Aijaz Ali Independent 26
Muhammad Bakhsh Lashari Advocate Independent 17
Moulana Dr. Muhammad Asad Thanwi Independent 77
Moulana Abdul Karim Abid Mutthida Majlis-e-Amal Pakistan (MMA)
It’s the voice of 96973 Votes of Gulshan Town Constituents apart from 2.6 million voters which voted for MQM and you and Dr.Arif Alvi? 🙂
Well Awab…
I like the way you snub MQM leaders… they actually deserve to be treated like that… but you know I think its time for Imran Khan to finally make this case justified… whenever he is been asked about the status of this case, he is always defensive and always promises for tomorrow… if he has so solid ground then he should bring it out…
awab:
i watched this episode and commented on this last night on baithak.
imran is skating on thin ice here:)
the Supreme Court of Canada did no such thing
[the court in question was a federal immigration appeals board and as someone earlier has mentioned the immigration board has allowed hundreds of MQM refugee cases and turned down a few]
Rizivi knows the details apparently, because if you watch the replay he emphasized Supreme Court!
also i gather from the local papers that that the MQM Canada is an active ethnic organisation all over the country and there are no restriction placed on its various activities here.
imran is a decent fellow, as i have allluded to…decent like air marshal asghar khan…and sadly, there is no room for decent people in politics
@AKC – dont you ever get over the 'phobia'-istic conspiracy ploy and understand that it is an opinion – there are some people who actually do not like the MQM. And your screaming and crying wolf will not make it go away – just debate your point of view with the hope that people might take guidance and may revert to your party
Secondly it has been my ernest request, as a person and as a friend – I have forever respected your point of view and have always reserved my commenting to the issue at hand and never stooped to revert to personal attack on you – I hope you can reciprocate the same or else I would prefer not engaging with you flat out
@Temporal – I would agree – his emphasis on "Supreme Court" does indicate that Haider Abbas rizvi – used the play of words to sneak in the attack – perfectly legitimate and as per the verbatim statement I believe he is safe 😉 if the challenge is accepted.
But its interesting to see as to how MQM is so desperate at trying to forgive and forget the terrorism days of the past – their argument of merely saying "why did you not commemorate May 12 2008 – why NOW" seems more to ridicule people and making people to forget that fateful day. and anyone qho questions that day they divert to Dec 27th as a defensive position – well in my opinion both PPP and MQM each have some major questions to answer and they are deliberately avoiding such investigations merely because they would be found in a compromised position
Hilarious part is when people like AKC – start quoting Quaid-e-Azam LOL – in their 25 years of reign of <s>terror</s> rule their fundamental was "Creation of Pakistan was a critical mistake" seems like MQM is playing the fiddlers fiddle. who are they trying to fool. maybe themselves
awab:
thanks i expected nothing but a civil exchange with you when when we disagree:)
call for (fair) investigation into may 12 is admirable and i agree BUT all this also begs a more serious query
why confine it to may 12? (and as rizvi pointed out it is not even the 'latest' … dec 27 rapes, murders, destruction and mayhem overshadows it by far)
and
why not investigate all past human rights abuses and corruptions and gross neglect cases?
here is a short list:
* how did the sharifs acquire their billions?
* ditto for zardari
* asghar khan's letter, converted by SC into a sumo moto notice over which ardeshir cowasjee has written over ten columns and which our liberated and restored CJ is turning a blind eye?
* the balochistan bombinsgs
* recommendations of hamoodur rehman commission
…i could go on and on:)
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if pakistan is to survive and move forward she desperately needs a genuine truth and reconciliation commission where the past can be laundered, cleaned and the nation can start off with a clean state
other than that, these bickering would continue…only faces and issues would change….till we go over the precipice singing jeevay, jeevay…jeevay, jeevay pakistan…
lol @ AKC tumhara moon se yeh quaid e azam ke quotes achay nahi lagtay ….altaf the moron stood in india and declared the creation of Pakistan was a blunder…please dont say muhajirs have been persecuted and thus altaf piggy was right….because poor ppl regardless of their ethnicity have been persecuted …muhajirs sindhis punjabis pathans balochs …. not even one of them went to another country and said anything against pakistan..there have been separatists in every province but only by the minority …im not a ppp fan but im a die hard ZAB fan …we have lost him , his 2 sons and his daughter ,regardless of how she was…..have we the supporters of shaheed ZAB picked up arms or declared the creation of pakistan as a blunder ? no sir so please do not give us this bullshit anymore. you new generation of mqm supporters oughta disarm and promote non voilence first and then come lecture us. muhajirs have such well educated people , its a shame to see altaf clinging to the top . Muhajirs can and have made such a difference to this country. Too bad altaf hussain has hijacked this and wont let anyone decent and educated hold the party's roost
@Tool: Nice to read your "fine line" in politics. The founder if the leader of the organization, and the fact that MQM has been growing from day one, reiterates that fact that Mr. Altaf Hussain is the only "mohajir" (if this is how you see it) capable enough to be running this oranization. It is his SOLE vision that we approve of and have full trust in. 2.6m votes casted for him only, and million more that just dont vote! so I say he has a following which is non-destructible.
Better we stay on the topic of Mr. Abbas's challenge to Mr. Khan. IK is so right, then as @ Afaque said ealier.. if there is proof bring it out. He is in Karachi and should hold a press conference immediately answering the challenge!
for the question of what Mr. Altaf Hussain said in India, please follow this link and listen to the answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yU-4qdFpQQ&fe…
Thanks for this post Awab! Ruling against MQM is right there
and as far as A K chishti is concerned i think he should be forgotten as
http://pkpolitics.com/2009/04/30/mqm-target-blogg…
This is enough to know his and his party's credibility.
These few votes taked by PTI are far more better as they are not taken on gun point.
@Ali K.Chishti,
It would be nice if you could come up with references.
Living in Canada, I know and have witnessed so many MQM assylum applications turned down because Canadian Govt does consider MQM as a terrorist Organization.
Read this…
Citizenship and Immigration — Immigration Practice — Judicial review of immigration officer’s decision applicant inadmissible to Canada on grounds member of organization (Mohajir Quami Movement-Altaf (MQM-A)) reasonable grounds to believe engages, has engaged or will engage in acts of terrorism …..
….Article 1F(a) as a result of his involvement with the Mohajir Quami Movement (MQM) which reportedly illegally detained, tortured and sometimes executed dissident members and political opponents….
The truth is all the Western Govts know that MQM is a terrorist organization. But for them, their own interests are PRIORITY NUMBER 1.
Rizvi Sahab is a seasoned politician, knew what he was saying unlike someone from JUI (who was he?) who was forced to resign over some issue earlier.
@SANA: Ahmed Nadeem Ghela is a lawyer of the Liars movement? and pkpolitics.com is for sure PTI's blogsite.
Hence, the contents of that page is filled with hate for MQM and the mohajir community, so the infromation remains a mere propaganda, and yes.. we didnt choose to answer any questions there, because they were still not able to proove that IO belonged to MQM.
Everyone missed the Point here specially Awab Alvi and all the supporters of PTI who actually starts lieing with out knowing the facts.
Imran khan said "Supremem Court of Canada declared MQM as Terrorists Organization" and Haider Abbas Said if he provide the Verdict of Canada Supreme Court then he would resign otherwise Imran Khan has to leave Politics.
Now can Awab or anyone else can provide the judgment of the Supreme Court of Canada in this regard???
Federal court is layer 3 court in Canada like session court in Pakistan
Secondly Kashif Omer moved to Toronto and filed the case against the verdict given in the court of Quebec and Court in Toronto allow him to stay him in Canada dismissing the charge against him and MQM.
Muhammad Kashif Omer is still in Canada, if his application was dismissed then how Government of Canada allow him to stay in Canada till now?
Reasons of verdict of Canadian Court against MQM.
The judge went to Internet type MQM and found that MQM is involved in Terrorism by a report on FAS, fact is that report is not present there now and few websites present against MQM on internet,
Secondly the Internet propaganda against MQM mainly by PTI(Awab as Master mind), Jamat e Islami and a gang of people supported by Ganja Nawaz Sharif and People don't want MQM to even enter in Punjab.
Now the most important thing
Imran himself accepted that he didn't even filed a case against Altaf Hussain in any court of law in UK, he is lieing from the last 2 years to the people
( Awab Kindly tell us why the case Imran khan tried to enter in British courts was rejected and not even admissible to Court?)
Imran khan also lied that MQM minister can not go to canada but the fact is FArooq Sattar Minister of MQM and even Haider Abbas Rizvi himself was in Canada in June 2009..
Imran Khan is just lieing from last 2 years about the case against Altaf hussain fact is he didn't filed a case in any court of law .
My post is an open challenge to Mr Awab Mr Imran Khan and the whole PTI to present a judgement of Canadian Supreme Court against MQM or withdraw Imran Khan from Politics.
Well as far as any mqm activist is concerned it's their habit to use abusive and foolish language, i simply can't understand why on the earth they can't tell their point of view in a civilized manner instead of their habitual "Thare ki siyasat".
Yaar ek baat sumjh main nhi atti imran khan goron(english man) k itna khilaaf hai aur khud bradford uni (in england) ka chancellor bana betha hai yeh kahan ki sharafat hai? Rehta mianwali main hai aur Hosp lhr main banata hai jubkay ghareeb tou wahan zaida hongay na, just for vote bank. Yeh woh log hain jo baatien kuch kartay hain aur kaam kuch.
Imran Khan sahab say req karta hon k inki baaton say sirf logo k dil kharab hotay aur nufratieen barhti hain. Altaf Hussain sahab bhi koi pak parsa nhi hain bahar beth k politics na karay janab Pak aa jaye. Kher ALLAH behtar karay Ameen.
Ahmad khan Hospital Lahore me bana is ki is ke ilawa aur buhat si reasons ha. And rahi baat ke votebank tu IK ka votebank Mianwali hi hain.
i think is se ziada preshani wali baat yeh he ke Altafa rehta London me ha aur party yaha chalata ha..
@Mustafa: Iss mai kiya pareshani ki baat hai? Benazir aur Ganjoo jaab mulk say bahar thay woh be to yea he kertay thay.. tum bhi kerlo.. kis nay mnaa kiya hai?
Mustafa bhi app sahi keh rahay ho I am agree laikun mere dost Khan sahab aisy baatien kartay hain jisay logo k diloon main nufrat paida hoti hai.
Mere Is msg ka mutlub yehi tha k "is hamaam main sub nungay hain".
Koi sahi nhi hai, Khan sahab bradford uni k chancellor kyu hain? mujhay iska jawab ap day saktay ho? Bhai main Altaf hussain ka supporter nhi hon laikun MQM ka manifesto acha hai. Middle class bunda betha hai Parliament main kis party ka aisa bunda hai jo chwdry, wadera, mian, sardar nhi hain?
Bhai Imran khan mere liye hero hain, main unko salure karta hoon laikun woh politics main mere liye hero nhi hain. Bhai naraz na hona.
yaar yeh argument ke bb aur ns bhi tu bahir He un se bhi tu poocho ab purana ho gaya ha.. BB the brave lady came she gave her life. this is called bravery. same goes for NS, he came and organized his party, played vital rule in LONG MARCH, yaar jo bhi ha jese bhi ha us ny apni baat manwai. on the other hand your Altaf kalia who mourn and weep for Pakistani Nation londong me betha ha ku ke us ko dar ha ke establishment use marwa dy gi.. Darpok, cowardice..
Tum log kaam shaam nahi kartey? Only if people were more educated in Pakistan, these fitna minded politicans would'nt be able to raise a single vote for what they have done. To be honest, I am disappointed with our own mentality. These people (all politicians) have looted us, made fool of us, killed un-countable number of important people that mattered for their own reasons & enmity and we are just like a bunch of douche-bags still vouching for them, citing their quotes, debating against & for them & some even go a step further to disrupt the whole country.
Obviously, raising & sharing your opinion is everybody's right. But dont you think its about time that each & everyone of these politicians should be shut-down in a cave & bombarded by drone attacks. If only this would happen, we will have a better life in less than 2 years.
Hope Obama is reading this blog.
Just my 2 cents.
Ammad, i don;t think so Ik is against Gora;s infact he talks against US policies, and bhaai sahab whats wrong if he's the chancellor of Bredford uni.
Mustafa bhai baat sumjhanay k sumjh main atti hai thopnay say sumjh main nhi atti, mere dost baat yeh hai NS sahab baray leader hain laikun zid bachoon ki tarah ki. Is tarah ager her koi karay ga tou kya hoga?
Kher behus karnay ka faida nhi hai, humay atleast apus tou itehhad paida karna chahiye. Kindly accept each other.
Pakistan zindabad.
Pehlay Khan sahab bradford uni k chancellor ki seat say hatay tou acha lagay ga k unkay moo say goron k khilaaf baatien. Altaf hussain tou tatto hai goron ka hamaray sub politicians goron k tatton hain.
Anyways, hamaray larnay say kuch nhi hoga bhai mere, ALLAH k wastay dilon main gunjaish paida karo ager koi bhi kuch sahi karta hai ya acha karta hai tou ussay appreciate karo na k ulta usmay bhi burraiyain dhondo.
Be optimistic.
Again and always Pakistan first and Pakistan Zindabad.
hey guys did you see this:
http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2006/2006fc246/2006f…
what a son of a gun hyder abbas rizwi is
@Mustafa: dude, what does it matter if he is here or there? He is a very precious person for the stability of the party and "no chances" will be taken. We DO NOT want him here. Really no one should have a problem, as he himself has never contested any seat of Govt office, but he is the only one running the movement. Mind you its growing faster than you think mate!
Imran Khan admits adultery !
Will Mr. Iftikhar Ch. take Suo Moto action and ban Imran Khan to take part in politics ???
"As for Sita, I never claimed to be an angel. I’ve never glossed over my personal life. I admit my faults but have since undergone an inner transformation. Spirituality has made me a better person.’"
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-…
i am disgusted at the way this AKC chap is talking here. it shows you how the mqm cult mentality filters through. i myself am an urdu speaking karachite (hate the word muhajir) and would like to let you all know that the mqm is only part representative of our ethnic group. there are lots of us so called muhajirs who absolutely detest the mqm and its mafia style operations. you only need to look at the state of their uneducated murderer leader to know what the party stands for. granted not everyone in the mqm is violent, but the fact that they treat this altaf hussain guy like a god is blasphemy. down with altaf and down with the mqm. i will support them if farooq sattar, mustafa kamal and the likes break ranks with altaf ghaddar hussain.
Lets leave this fight alone for a good news !!
All PTI lovers.. get proud .. !!!
BEGUM NAWAZISH ALI in HIS/HER last program showed interest to join PTI.
I want to congratulate all the PTI members for having another KHUSRA of its kind in your party.
And surely will recognize that MQM is about Men & Women, you keep collecting KHUSRA(s).
Thank You.
awab alvi your post didn't carried the verdict of canada supreme court it mean haider abbas rizvi won and imrna khan had to leave politics.
@EMGI: app ka koi ilaaj nahi hai… if you want your voice heard you need to make exceptions and accept a political party to get your message accross which is the closest to your ideology.
@AWAB: Abb to mann jaoo! IK's Propaganda has been answered.. please ask him to go back to Israel.
@Awab: Canadian Defense Minister Peter Gordon MacKay just said “Pakistan is the most dangerous country in the world” shouldnt we be negating this? and leave our politicans alone and save the damn country from collapsing.
@jabeen!
if i produce the canadian court verdict,would you stop supporting altaf hussain? i don't think so.because pakistanis are not capable to see beyond their biased mentality.
here is the link:
http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2006/2006fc246/2006f…
@syed ali raza abdi!
@emgi spoken on the behalf of the hundred of thousands of karachites like me.
the facts are the facts.
the fact is altaf hussain ran away from his people.
the fact is now he is a british citizen.
the fact is MQM is nothing more then a political mafia.
the fact is MQM is playing a dirty game by destroying innocent pashtoons in karachi.
i don't mind if MQM attack on land mafia, transport mafia,drug mafia and other countless mafia.but what it is doing against pashtoons is extremely dangerous and is the conspiracy against the citizens of khi. they again want to drag this city in pits of violence,death and destruction.
just for little political gain.
1. There has been no deportation taken effect.
2. Supreme Court did not declare MQM as a terrorist organization like Imran Khan and his followers claim.
@Dr.JK: You can say all you want! but you cannot ignore the fact that it is the only party that talks of progress, development and representation of the masses of Pakistan. Hence, it continues to grow. Most of what you have mentioned CANNOT be proven as its baseless propaganda you have been fed. If you never see the other side or objectivity of a situation you will always hate your representations. Here Imran Khan challenged Syed Haider Rizvi at MQM was declared a terrorits organzation by the Canadian Supreme Court. The decisions you have shown again and again are of a federal court, please check this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Canada_Court_Sy… so when the Supreme Court of Canada is approached the ruling will finalize then.
@ dr.jawwadkhan
the verdict you are showing are initial findings of a person he got from INTERNET.
Kindly read why judge came to know about terrorism.
And although it’s quite evident that it was a Federal Court and not the Supreme Court which give out the decision. Let me even go a bit further as why this decision at the Federal Court was even given.
It was based on “choice or a point of view of an immigration officer” as the immigration officer “selected one out of two packages of information” at one specific case. So the decision which by the way had no effect on MQM was not actually as attack on MQM as a political party but was a clear case of racial profiling against Asians and nothing else…
It seems that the verdict(based on googling) of a small court of canada is a matter of great pleasure to some of the people therefore lets celebrate all together the verdict of Canadian/US Governments to mark Taliban as terrorists who inturn was a product of US-ISI-Jamaati nexus. And everybody should also love whatever these western countries are doing with Muslims.
If Imran Khan has so much respect for the rulings of western courts then he should also bow to the Los Angeles court's ruling deeming Imran Khan as the father of an illegitimate girl.
By the way Imran Khan should leave the politics now because he is now failed to prove that MQM is being marked as a terror group. He is failed to prove in the Los Angeles court's ruling hence constitutionally he cannot contest for the Pakistani parliamentarinship.
If Imran Khan has so respect for the Western Courts/Laws then he should according to the laws pay the child support to Sita White for Tyrian Jade, his illegitimate offspring.
Waisay the proverb fits 100% to Imran Khan, "Batain Karoron Ki Dukaan Pakoron Ki". What the hell Imran Khan and the party is?? What mandate do they have? Just one seat from Mianwali!!! Woh bhi rishtadaron kay votes. *lols*.
Ali,
Well, lets just say not more than 10 people vote for Imran Khan.
But he doesn't murder people like the GRAND MAFIA BOSS: Altaf Hussain and his blind followers.
Hitler had more support than Altaf Hussain, did it make him right?
Chootiaa chaley gaey london,
chor gaey yahn sarey dhakkan
Why would MQM kill poor rickshaw drivers, taxi drivers and chaey walas
I don't really understand why. If these people were land mafia clan, then they wouldn't be driving rickshaw, taxi and selling chaey…
and still yet when MQM is loosing its vote bank.
Here is why
Ethnic groups like MQM, thrive only when there are clashes between ethnic groups
MQM is trying to annoy the pathans, so that a drug dealer group of them would do a blood bath just like Qasba Colony and Aligarh
Not only will it strengthen MQM
MQM will be able to demand any thing it wants- Remember how GEO has been hijacked by MQM.
Just imagine a pathan runs along Orangi and kills people. And somebody makes a video of that, Geo will play the video all day and all the people will be in favor of MQM
GOD FORBID
Sheikh Mohammad Nehad,
Very well said. If MQM wants only MEN and WOMEN, then what is Altaf Hussain doing in MQM?
Down with the fascist MQM — the biggest of all terrorists organisations.
Unlike your thin self centered alignment in politics i am a supporter of the masses. I have supported whatever has benefited the masses . I am above your petty muhajir and punjabi politics. I have no problems with anyone except people who brandish guns. I have lost one of the greatest man on the face of this earth for muslims ZAB and not even threw a stone . Mqm has done some commendable work for karachi ( and hyderabad during the musharraf years , ironically their rule extended through out sindh yet sindh remains as barren as ever , then i can safely say they have done something for their constituents only) and thank for confirming it by limiting mqm to favoring muhajirs only ..its the only ethnic party which is in the ruling coalition then..it should also rename it self to muhajir quami movement..and altaf hussain shud STFUP and stop claiming he represents all people regardless of their ethnic background. and this response youve posted is a joke. he keeps repeating that hes been misunderstood for the first 3 mins and then goes on to explain how muslims of pakistan india and bangladesh could have consolidated and been better than what they are now.first off what he said in india was ” i request the indian government to take muahjirs back ” …..punjabis.sindhis pathans and balochis who have thier leaders killed , and dignity taken away are to be left behind…..un patriotic. and you know it too , had some one else said it you guys would be asking for his neck. and even philosophically , he disagreed with quaid e azam , i dont know about you mr chisti but he is liable for treason for speaking against the founder’s sacrifice in a country that is waging war against us in swat under the guise of the pseudo taliban. death unto altaf hussain . long live muhajirs sindhis pathans punjabis and balochis. may thier generations get rid of zardaris and altafs and nawaz sharifs
@Liaqatabadi and Haji Sb.
GRAND MAFIA BOSS??? man look at what Imran Khan is supporting.. the Taliban, who are proven extension of the Al-Qaeda, who are proven extention of the CIA… so why this attitude? by asking for stopping of the operation against Imran’s brother, is allowing him to carry on the agenda of India and RAW against Pakistan. Look at the bigger pictures your Tehreek-e-Intiqaam is drawing.
Also comparing to Hitler and his army, is only because of Jemimah.. she is obviously against the so called holacaust where hitler allegedley killed 6 million jews, this is why Hitler was called a facist? oh yes, and to clear your mind little boy, if MQM was a facist organization.. you wouldnt be here talking all this crap. We wouldnt have had any opposition! get it?
@Jinbaba: No MQM would not kill the rickshaw, taxi, bus, truck drivers or chai wala’s, shakarkandi wala, kachray wala, hotel wala, waiter, tandoor wala, etc… because these people are a need of the city. It is your asswiped Imran Khan of the Jews who want to embed into your dirty minds that MQM is against Pashtoons… Mind you Mr. Harry, MQM is against the conspiracies of ANP and their activities of terrorism, lang grabbing, and killing. Do you know that these ANP wala’s have killed more of their own than in any other conflict? Get your facts straight Mr. blind and deaf and STFU and let us work to save the country from disintegration. Listen to Zaid Hamid’s latest declaration of ANP and its activities and also visit islamabadobserver.com to see the brothers of Imran Khan is true actions against our forces.
@KAA: Down with racist Imran Khan, ANP, Taliban, Jamaat-e-Islami, JUI, PPI and all other ANTI-STATE political parties – They are the biggest of any terrorist organization.
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RESPONSES TO MQMers
someone here said that you must support a group that is closest to your idealogy. well, actually speaking, that would probably be the PPP or the MQM, both left of centre with a secular agenda – important points to someone like me. but i think a leader makes a big different, and until there is someone like zardari or altaf running these parties, I cannot support them.
QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesnt altaf hussain come back to pakistan? what is he scared of? benazir had the guts to come back, as did nawaz sharif. Musharraf has the guts to stay in the country. Imran khan still has the gutts to come to Karachi, despite the very possible threats from the MQM.
WHAT IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT ALTAF HUSSAIN THAT ALLOWS HIM TO RULE, YES I SAID RULE, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, SITTING IN A FAR AWAY LAND?
2. Why is he a British citizen? This is disgusting.
3. If he claims to be so democratic, why does he run a party where no one has the gutts to every criticize him? How come all detractors are shown the door? How is this democracy?
Let it be known my mqm friends, there is NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE. Altaf Hussain is not just a crook, he is a muderer, liar and destroyer of dream of a number of Karachites and Pakistanis like me.
If this dog leaves the MQM, i can assure the party i will consider supporting it, and so will many others like me.
@emgi: I said that!
1. WE DO NOT WANT HIM IN KARACHI because we know that there is the most popular individual following of Mr. Altaf Hussain than any other leader alive in Pakistan. Hence, we DO NOT wish to take any risks with his life. But I ask why is it a problem, has he asked for any office position so far in the political career of 30 years? People vote for Mr. Altaf Hussain and NOT Mr. Haider Rizvi, this should be clear to you. While in all other political parties, people vote for their respective personalities.
2. Whats wrong with him a British Citizen? The Constitution of Pakistan allows you to hold dual nationalities, so the it is a right well deserved and granted by the people of the Kingdom as per their immigration laws. Really this shouldnt bother anyone. If Imran Khan has a case, he should pursue it, but you can NOT label anyone as a criminal until proven guilty in court of law, as it falls under the penalties of defamation of cyber crimes ordinance 2002.
3. Who told you detractors are shown the door? pure baseless hearsay.
But what about the challenge? anyone care to comment on the result?