Guest Blog by Kazim Aizaz Alam
Violence has gripped Karachi once again. People are scared and all markets are closed in major parts of Karachi as I write these lines. The MQM is up in arms against the Pakhtuns as its alleged goondas on Saturday burnt [*] a woman and a girl alive in an act of arson besides shooting (and killing) a man while he was driving a car. All mini buses (or Mazdas, as we call them) in the city are owned by Pakhtuns and they become ‘soft targets’ once the hooligans receive a go-ahead signal from their Markaz. This time round the ‘excuse’ for violence is that internally displaced persons are coming to Karachi.
Ironically the MQM is the most vocal supporter of the military operation in the Malakand division — yet it is sternly opposing the establishment of IDP camps in Karachi. The operation has already made over 2.5 million people homeless but the crusaders against Talibanisation can’t let go of their Mohajir chauvinism. Besides the MQM and Sindhi nationalist parties, the Punjab government too has said that it will not welcome any Swati refugees. The MQM first raised a hue and cry about inhumanities of the Taliban and called for an indiscriminate military operation in the populous region, and now when hundreds and thousands of people are helpless, homeless and penniless; all it could offer was a ‘grand’ cheque of one million rupees for the Prime Minister’s Relief Fund.
On another note, one of my acquaintances who is in the MQM and is also a government representative told me yesterday that fully-constructed houses of 120 square yards were up for grabs in Gulshan-e-Zia (Orangi Town) for a paltry sum of Rs 40,000. But the only condition was that the buyer would have to move into the house immediately, otherwise the house along with the payment would be taken back at once. The houses are ‘distributed’ among MQM workers through the city district government. The reason is that a Mohajir-Pakhtun clash is imminent in the near future and since the area is overwhelmingly populated by the Pakhtuns, the MQM wants to consolidate its hold there before the final showdown. Meanwhile, its propaganda about Talibanisation in Karachi continues at full pace so that when it comes down to full-fledged ethnic-cleansing drive, our ‘liberals’ can stay back in complete peace and watch the war theatre in the name of fight against extremism.
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114 responses to “War is welcome, IDPs aren’t”
Did a post on exactly this on my blog. To an outsider this is bizarre – seems like the worst type of NIMBY – or "not in my backyard" (to use an english cliche) – politics. Except really violent, at least in how the strike was meted out.
Blog is here: http://saesneg.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/swat-idps…
Yet, when the GEO and other Media b!tches talk to Altaf Hussain, they pee in their pants, and pose questions just to make Altaf Hussain look good.
I hope some Muhajirs rise up to the situation and give this bastard his own medicnine.
Same goes for Jeay Sindh Qaumi Mahaz, BNP and other racist groups of Pakistan.
Altaf Hussain is realy an anti pakistan element in Pakistan's politics.How can he care about Pakistan when he termed the creation of pak as the biggest blunder of century and that too in India to get funds from RAW.
I being a Pakistani feel humilaited when our politicians except Imran Khan resort on ethno nationalism fro votes.
These people should be let go freely wherever they want to.
Let me ask question to all those who consider this war as their own,
why are you not letting these people enter in your provices who are victims of your own so called war?
this is unhuman,cruel and very disgusting.
people of swat deserve utmost care and hospitality.
MQM just used the name of JSQAM.but one thing very good happened this time that the people of karachi dislike OPENELY the attitude of MQM.
I am from Karachi and acknowledge the way it was handled was not right.
But you have to understand that Karachi is far from SAWAT as compared to other cities of Pakistan (Islamabad, Sialkot, Peshawar, Lahore etc.), so why the people have to come all the way to Karachi instead they can be provided all the help near to their home. In fact many people has contributed from Sidh specially from Karachi to help the IDP, as it was done also during the earth quake.
The problem of Karachi is already too much, like ineffective government machinery which is not able to control the crimes in the city, also the unemployment is high, lack of power and water.
This will be an addition to the misery of the people who are displaced by the war and also to the people who are living in Karachi.
Thanks Kazim for informing that MQM is doing such a great help to the needy homeless people, you have to appreciate that who can give house in 40 thousand.
A big appreciation to the city Government for helping the needy people of Karachi.
Karachi belong to the people who live in Karachi, not to the people who thinks that this is only a place to earn and do whatever they want to do.
Another important point you mentioned that most of the transport os owned by Pakhtoons, I really wish some Private companies step into the Transport business and we can get rid of this f***** monopoly.
You will of course conveniently forget that MQM was the first party to offer relief and assitance to the refugees at the time when Imran Khan was in Karachi to stir up ethnic hatred, and PML N and PPP could not be concerned with providing humanitarian relief.
ARY Digital did a programme in which the journalist Huma Mir criticised the two largest parties and praised MQM for their relief efforts.
Punjab was the first province to ban entry of IDP's. Why are all cannons point towards Sindh and MQM then?
I am not an MQM supporter but you people have to get rid of this one sided bias.
I have deep respect for Alvi sahab and this is no way is a personal attack on him.
Shame, MQM. Shame.
The muhajirs were welcomed as brothers and equal citizens in 1947 by the people of Punjab and Sindh. Did anyone ever say back then that there may be Indian agents among them?
And now that the country is at war, a war that the MQM supports, they are not willing to even host IDPs at a camp outside Karachi.
Shocking, utterly reprehensible behaviour.
Danial
So the people of Punjab and Sindh did the muhajirs a favour by welcoming them as equal citizens? Was the country made for Punjabis and Sindhis or was it made for Muslims of the Subcontinent?
First you should realise that no one did any favours to muhajirs and the country belongs to them as much as Punjabis. Jinnah was not a Punjabi or Sindhi himself.
Maybe outside Karachi they teach Jinnah to be a Punjabi or something? The Punjabis who went from Amritsar and Jalandhar into Lahore, why did no one suspect them of being Indian agents?
LOL at your double standards and one sided bias.
@khansahab Why do always Punjab becomes the point of criticism. If Punjab Govt has disallowed the entrance of refugees then who are the people living in Rawalpindi.. and in my city Lahore.. i have seen on bulk of TV channels.. i can even tell you that many of them are living in Town ship lahore.. and what the MQM is doing is really stupid.. MQM is definitely working side by side to help the IDPS.. but another fact is that.. they are the killers.. they don't even protect their own civilians. On Eid ul Azha. they collect the animal skins and if someone refuses to give it to them.. they kill their animals.. what the heck is this???.. They are yelling against the Talibanisation in karachi. bcoz they fear if Taliban will embark in Karachi they will impose Islamic rules.. and MQMS GundaGardi will be wiped off.. I wish that Taliban should take strong position in Karachi.. at least the Urdu speaking people will get rid of MQMS Gundass and hooligans..
Sikander
In the past 6 months over 500,000 Pashtuns have come to Karachi. There are more Pashtuns in Karachi than there are Punjabis in Lahore. These facts are from Dawn.
Get your facts rights and stop one sided bias.
48% of Karachi's population is Urdu Speaking and the next highest percentage of 18% is of Punjabis.
The criticism of Punjab comes because Punjab can do what it wants and no one raises a finger. But if MQM does the same, they get called traitors and Indian agents.
@khansahab: Put aside your bigotry and learn to read English properly before firing away such ridiculous comments. When did I say that Punjabis and Sindhis did the muhajirs a favour?
My analogy was designed to show exactly that: all IDPs, muhajirs, Punjabis and Sindhis are equal citizens of Pakistan and have the right to go anywhere they want. Pakistan belongs to everyone. If you are denying them the right to enter Karachi or any other place in Pakistan, you are denying them their rights as citizens.
On the one hand you say that Pakistan was made for all Muslims and belongs to everyone, and on the other hand you're defending the MQM's reprehensible stance on the IDPs. Sort out your contradictions before you accuse others of bias, you flaming bigot.
Danial
I think you should learn to write properly so that people don't miscontrue you.
Your English must be more pathetic than I initially envisaged, because I never stated anyone should be debarred from entering Karachi. I said why are you all blaming Muhajirs when Punjabis and Sindhis should also be blamed, since Punjab was the first province to ban entry of IDP's and Sindhi nationalists also don't want to welcome the IDP's.
I can easily say too that you are defending Punjab's stance on these IDP's. Look at how many Punjabis and in Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar, yet Punjab doesn't have the heart to welcome Pashtun refugees?
So who is the flaming bigot now, you imbecile?
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@khansahab why the MQM people still think theirselves Muhajirs.. hilarious.. they are really arrogant people.. they say we feed the whole nation>>>.. f..k.. half of population is in Punjab.. and they always show off that we are feeding the country.. did we ever say that.. i love pushtoon's you know y.. bcoz they are making them (MQMS hooligans)fearful and terrified.. they are really losers.. shame on them!!!. i would love to hear from you.. come on.. have some constructive discussion.
@khansahab: Whoever denies entry to IDPs anywhere in Pakistan is the target of my condemntation, for the record, be it Punjab, Sindh or Karachi (read MQM). I hope that clarifies my position.
Now will you clarify your position and condemn all deniers of entry to IDPs: Punjab, Sindh and the MQM? We're all holding our breath.
Sikander
It is the non Urdu Speakers who call Urdu Speakers "Muhajirs". No one likes being called an "immigrant". You find them arrogant? Do you have any idea how arrogant some Punjabis are?
Now I am not saying this about all Punjabis, only the arrogant ones. Why do they walk with their stomach hanging outside? Why do they talk so loudly, why do they use so much abusive language? Why can't they think what they are saying in front of others, and why do they not have any manners?
Yes, half the population is in Punjab but how many of you are in other provinces? If you have a right to go there why can't Pushtoons come to your province? If you love Pushtoons so much why have you banned them?
If you love Pushtoons because they are "terrifying" MQM, then someone can also say they love MQM because they beat up Punjabis who fled to Lahore in the riots of 1980's.
Danial
I honestly have no problem with whoever coming to anywhere in the country. I have a problem when you have one rule for Urdu Speakers and another rule for everyone else. This politics of marginalisation must end.
the MQM the PPP the PML N the Jamiat the MMA …. all of them conditionally or unconditionally support the so called 'war on terror'
but our powerful media and conformist culture has already made sure that people in pakistan totally conform with the notion that there are religious hooligans with big army and resources to blot down the name of islam …(though most of us have no idea what islam is as Quran says it is … we only get glimpses of this information by the "Mullah Corporations")
the justification of this war itself is in question ….
now that the war is happening and our 'o so brave saviour of the nations' are burning villages and our 'o i m so proud of u army' is using its artillery on its own … the cumulative damage that is the refugees (euphemestically called IDPs) have no where to go … everyone is passing the unwanted ball …
…what we got the money from our US papa we dont want the unwanted people … why would we care
MQM being in the frontline for its support to USA would do anything to curb pathans …
MQM the middleclass youth organization found on the right principles has always showed that its committed to no 1 but money and its workers(who are useful) ….. I believe amongst the race of corrupt parties MQM is winning again with the worst accumulated agenda and manifesto you could sum up … i could say all things like zionism and jewish agenda and all of that but i m sure we are all well versed in here with conspiracy theories
@khansahab i think we weren't discussing anything personal about the personalities of province inhabitantS.. since you have done so.. i didn't say arrogant to karachi.. i said to MQMS.. but you have criticized our Punjab.. which is the only province having agriculture.. and for you knowledge agriculture is the back bone of our nation.. 70 percent contribution in economy comes from there.. and Why Altaf (murderer) emphasizes to make visa policy if someone wants to be in Karachi.. and why don't he come back.. What ever Benazir or Miyan brothers are.. they are here to face the death and challenges.. and he is living in UK.. i think MQM is not Mutahida Qaumi Movement.. it is Remote Control Movement.. he owns the whole Karachi. then y he is still living there on political asylum basis.. which is completely incomprehensible to every person..
@khansahab you know.. this is major germ i found in MQM.. they always get's personal.. rather than being politically competitive.. like you have written personal things.. it really makes me chaotic that my perception was absolutely correct about u.. u are one of the MQMS devils.. well wish you overwhelming lamentation..
Sikander
I said expressly that SOME Punjabis are like that, not ALL. I will not dignify your concerns regarding this by explaining myself any further.
At the moment MQM is the only political voice Urdu Speakers have. If you are going to say something against MQM, then you will insult all Urdu Speakers.
I hate Altaf Hussein too, but I don't see any difference between him, Zardari and Nawaz Sharif. They are all the same. But if you call Altaf a terrorist, murderer and corrupt man, you should also blame others.
I don't want to start about Imran Khan because I know this site supports him. Suffice to say I have lost all respect for Imran.
Call me a devil if you want, but I just want equality for all ethnicities.
khansahab,
you said: At the moment MQM is the only political voice Urdu Speakers have.
You are so wrong. Muhajirs exist in PPP, PML and JI too and if you think one has to be racist to be reprsentative of Muhajirs then there is MQM(H), whom MQM is killing one by one.
The truth is MQM is a facist party. The grand Mafiaso, Altaf Hussain has hijacked the emotions of Muhajirs. He and his bangers like saleem Shahzad are using emotional young tards like you to run this gang.
I being Muhajir condemn this act of MQM and sorry Pir sahab, NO MORE BLANK CHECKS
well said Qaimkhani!
as an urdu speaking i condemn this loathsome mafia style politics.
it is the time when every urdu speaking person should disassociate himself from the abhorrent strategy of MQM.
they are our brothers and sisters.they need our hospitality and care.
they have already suffred a lot.
every family has a tragic story.they lost every thing for the war MQM and other liberal fascists were dying for.
i couldn't understand how some one can be so mean and cruel?
i abhor this dirty trick of MQM which is giving the impression that these displace and devastated people represent the different mafias in karachi.
also i believe that this kind of politics will alienate the urdu speaking people in the pakistan.
Qaimkhani
I don't even know who this Saleem Shahzad is. If you think there that there is no mafia in PPP, PML N etc, then you are ever so naive. You think Zardari and Nawaz don't get people killed and they don't harass and intimidate people? How naive, racist and ignorant are you?
My friends have been to LUMS and other so called prestigious institutes and they have faced racism and hatred from Punjabis. So please don't lecture me on how bad MQM is and how good everyone else is.
This is a classic retort by an ignorant hater- if someone defends Urdu Speakers, blame him as being an MQM member. My family has no connection with them and we don't even support them. All that I am saying here is a defence and reaction to the racism being propagated by you people.
Imran Khan is a racist himself. He always uses this "them and us" ideology to marginalise Urdu Speakers. He came on TV and said about Urdu Speakers, "Yeh log hamari nisbat seh zada parhey likhey hain". What is this "Yeh Log" terminology? "Inn logon nahi mafia party banai hui hai".
If you are educated then you should read that in history facist rulers and ideologists have used "them and us" dichotomy to further their facist interests and marginalise other people.
He also said, "PCB should organise matches between Lahore and Karachi because it will get crowds in due to the traditional rivalry between two cities". A politician who claims to stand for everyone in the country, how can he make this statement? A statesman should only talk about unity and equal rights for everyone, he should not emphasise hatred and rivalry like Imran Khan does.
Followers of Imran Khan would u trust him because he has never been tried ?
Followers of Nawaz Sharif … would u trust him because he claims that all allegations against him were false
Followers of PPP and Zardari … would u follow him because he is in power and by being a yes man u could earn some respect ?
Followers of Altaf would u follow him because he is a traitor to islam ?
one solution … get rid of all these politicians ,… none of them not a single one can do good to any one of u
if ur one of the elites ull be benefited in every regime … if ur despondent no 1 amongst these would make matters easy for u
and even for army …
every 1 here follows self …
y dont u guys agree to the fact that democracy is a failed concept … capitalism and its values has been shattered
stand for khilafah of islam
a true islamic government can solve all the problems
and we wont have to kill our own to please the west
@khansahab. thanks for the clearance of your statements.. i didn't say that Imran Khan or Nawaz, Zardari are angels.. somehow they also have corrupt background.. but the thing is that they are here in Pakistan.. but Mr Altaf doesn't seem to have valor to face the challenges.. and They aren't politically educated either.. they get personal stuff in political competition.. when Imran Khan was putting forward their case to Scotland yard.. Babar Ghouri came in Capital Talk.. and said a lot of personal things about him.. they must very enduring first of all.. and differentiate political and personal life..
Sikander
You are right and I agree with you. I saw Babar Ghouri saying those things and it was a very cheap and uncalled for tactic. That is why I don't support MQM.
@khansahab i am very despair at the moment owing to the Lahore Blast Tragedy.. where are the rulers and leaders like (Myan Brothers, Imran, Qazi and rest of the them).. I hate all of them.. they ruined the peace of Pakistan for the sole purpose of chief justice in shape of long march.. where are they now.. why don't they protest against Blasts, Inflation, Loadshedding.. i really wanna get rid of them and probably most of the Pakistanis.. why don't they take any action now.. hundreds of innocent peoples are dying due to their silence.. i think it's the time to run away from Pakistan..
Sikander
I have the same feelings. It is political gain they are after and the people in power are the ones who care for the country the least. People like you and me, the people who watch sadly and come to blogs to discuss, we are the people who care the most but we can't do anything.
"Aam aadmi" has no say in Pakistan, he is the victim of dirty politics, ethnic hatred and corruption.
I don't support drone attacks killing innocent people but I also don't support suicide bombings that kill innocent people. Previously Karachi was the centre of such attacks but now it has extended to Lahore which was a peaceful and vibrant city.
aah ! … once again the MQM is in question … the real question is, I have seen a lot of racism in Pubjab (as I'm from pubjab) but the amount of racism in MQM and Pakhtuns is at the highest level. May be this is the reason why they fight so much. Not so long ago M.Q.M stood for "Mohajir" Qaumi Movement and of course Altaf Hussain is their un-questionable god (think Hitler). But none the less, MQM would have to step out of "Mohajarism" because at least I have met people who pay heed to some reasoning if not all (for god sakes their 4th generation is borned here, they are alhamdullilah Muslim but still they call themselves Mohajirs).
And for pakhtuns, reasoning is somehow far from them. MQM should take a hint from the plight of Pakhtuns. As a Pakistani, I feel these people, though are doing a good job in the city govt. are still a liability for Pakistan because they use the terms "Urdu Speaking" and "Mohajirs". It's sad, pathetic and Ironic at the same time that people who are subject to racism cant let go of it even after they have become learned. When would we all realize that this is "OUR" Pakistan and if IDPs want to come to KHI from Swat they have every right to do that as the constitution provides them the right. The MQM's stance at this is reasonable, but they should take action via court. They don't have the right to *take* the basic rights of any Pakistani.
It's funny coz I'm thinking that may be if Imran Khan was not a Pakhtun then he might have been given permission to enter KHI lol …. but yeh … MQM is acting as if they *OWN* KHI … may be they need to be taught a lesson.
@khansab : sir what you talk is reason and I support it. What I have difficulty in understanding is your stance of not supporting any politician at all … agreed, but within reason I cannot and must not expect this to happen at once. And by at once I mean the next 10 years. Even if you don't like it, but for now you have to accept any one of these people. As someone must run the govt. And you have seen that people who are a "one window operation" like Musharraf, are ever so un-popular and then in due time, for them to do stuff becomes harder and harder as they loose the support of the people. These two men, Sharif and Zardari, they have the biggest following in Pakistan. And bare in mind that we are merely the few 10% of this country who have had the *privilidge* of life's basic necessities. As for NWFP and Baluchistan, their biggest problem are their "Sardars" as they can't get united.
You see … people come out within people. What do you think , the current rulers of Germany were never a part of the Nazi govt. ? (at least most of their fathers were).
I don't doubt the sincerity of Imran Khan but his dilemma is that he is a "Shehri" politician. He does not have the following of the masses of Pakistan. He might reason well, but sadly, the way I see it, his team of workers is either incompetent or they just don't want to work hard. And foremost, this guy never comes out of the "posh" areas of the cities. I haven't seen him with the *real* people who drive the machinery of this nation. So the way I see it, I'd say this guy is good alright, but still an amateur when it comes to politics.
And once I heard a "khitab" by Mr. Altaf … I hit the ground laughing senseless as the guy sounded like a character out of a drama from "star plus" … and I was amazed the people following him were even bigger dramas lol ! – so how would you expect a person like this to actually be counted amongst the leaders of Pakistan ? – he has support from a mere 1% … but his luck is KHI as he sits on the very heart of the economic hub of Pakistan. I would support MQM if they weren't so cheap and trigger happy and every so ready to give you a low blow. Respect is something they neither give nor get.
Humari kismat mein yehi do log (Zardari and Sharif) likhay hein, in hi say guzara kero – lol
@SayB well said.. i agree with you.. that we have to choose some one.. but how come our choices are wrong every time.. a bulk of people are still optimist in the hope of Pakistan Khappe.. and one day it will happen inshallah.. but we won't be able to see that day. the circumstances are freaking me out. and driving me to psychological death.. ohhh. one thing i learned from Pakistan is the definition of helplessness. coz i am so.. we just watch TV, have some discussions with each other.. but what do we do practically?? this is what every Pakistani should mull over..
@Sikander
"which is the only province having agriculture.. and for you knowledge agriculture is the back bone of our nation.. 70 percent contribution in economy comes from there…"
Typical jahlaat that is running throught the country. Currently Pakistan is a net IMPORTER of all agricultural products. Punjab doesn't produce enough to feed itself.
60% of your income generation in Pakistan is from Karachi.
All the nationalist parties in the SINDH have requested that IDP be kept closer to their homes. That included JSQM, PPP-SB, and Imran Khan's new best friend Mumtaz Bhutto's SNF. The issue is what the people of Sindh have declared and all Sindh based parties are relaying the cause of the consituents.
If you try to send the IDPs to Baluchistan the BNP, NAP and all nationlists there will also raise a hue and cry.
Secondly, your Punjab has stopped all IDPs and set up barricades at Atoock Bridge. No matter what Nawaz says.
Why would you send the IDPs to the heat and dust of Sindh MILES away from their land, when they can be accomodated in the temperate climes, and closer localities of NWFP and Punjab?
It makes no operational sense at all!!
It is you bias of the MQM and Urdu Speaking people that makes you single them out as the perpatrators, without looking at the bigger picture.
If you remember the afghans who were settled in Karachi during the soviet war were singlularly responsible for the drug and gun trade which spiralled out of control in karachi in the 1980's. This was because the people were settled there with no intetion of relocating them and without providing them provision for employment.
@tamaaz khan .. my point is that every body is corrupt and selfish.. whether imran khan, MQM, miyan bros. PPP.. every body has got selfish instinct.. but i still believe that MQM is a party of terrorists.. Altaf is not a leader.. no body really is.. but at least they are here in Pakistan.. and Altaf bhai is living a luxurious life in UK.. what a discrimination..
khansahab,
Criticizing MQM, doesn't mean that I'm endorsing Zardari, Imran Khan, Qazi or Nawaz…Its your own assumption…assumptions are nothing but mother of all the f@ckups.
Altaf Hussain and his gang has hijacked Karachi. Zardari may have hijacked interior Sindh, but I don't care. Besided it was Altaf Hussain Mafia who endorsed Zardari to be the president.
Qaimkhani
If you are not endorsing the other corrupt and terrorist leaders then please criticise them too once in a while, lest you appear to be a biased person, which would obviously lead to "assumptions" which you describe as the mother of all f*ckups.
@Sikander
I totally agree with your assertion about evrybody being corrupt bu that is not the point here.
As someone from Karachi and Sindh, it is unfortunate but the feeling in the masses of the provinces certainly is that the IDP should not be settled (abandoned) in Sindh.
The people here feel that first it makes no sense removing them so far from the land, in a far more harsh climate. Secondly the reprucussions of massive people transfer will increase the already hightened ethinic tension in the province.
In reality the best course of action is not always the sweetest sounding. Parties like ANP are playing politics, they have lost ALL political captial in NWFP so they would love a massive demographic change in Sinsh regardless of the consequences which will invariably be to increase ethinic tension and loss of lives, as it would do in Baluchistan or Punjab. This is happened in Sindh twice already so we know what we are talking about.
@QaimKhani
If you were from Sindh you would know how much work the MQM city government has done for the city. So much so that cities from interior Sindh are requesting to be placed under the administration of the CDGK. Think Shabaz and Lahore and you will understand. People who used to hate the MQM earlier now vote for them in droves. Their millitancy which was the biggest turnoff is now being seen as a positive – against Swat like Talibanization.
On the topic of Altaf in London. Ironically, if Altaf lived in Karachi I doubt so many people would vote MQM, as familiarity breeds contempt. But out of mind/out of sight, they like him out of the city. People in Karachi don't really care about Altaf they are more worried about roads, municipal services and sercutrity.
Altaf is no worse/better than Zardari, Nawaz, Asfand, Fazl, Qazi/Munawwar or the other qeeras. At least he doesn't run for political office and dirty the seat.
Tamaaz Khan
If Altaf comes to Pakistan he will be killed. That is the reason why he is not coming.
@tamaaz khan Kindly.. come out of political dream.. every time writing that he is doing this.. and she is doing this.. if you are talking about IDPS then just talk about them.. why are pushing ANP in it.. you seems to have strong political background..
@khansahab
every Pakistani.. has life threat.. and Altaf is presuming that he will be killed.. what about the thousands innocents who have been killed to date.. forget it.. Altaf's life is more important. coz they are powerful and aristocrat. what about the poor people.. no one really cares..
@Sikander
How can one analyse a situation without looking at the greater context in which they apply?
The IDP issue (in Sindh) has various factors and variables which have to be looked at. The IDP issue in Pakistan has even more vairables.
Talking about the IDPs in isolation without the greater context is just making empty noise without any recourse to resolution. Some people are providing different solutions, to analyse we have to look at them and discuss the merits and demerits of every situation.
First you ask me to stop saying "he is doing this…she is doing that…" and straight off you write to khansahab what Altaf is upto. It might be a good idea to look at your hypocracy here.
You condemn Sindhi parties for their opposition to IDP settlement, but refuse to aknowledge the government of Punjab has the same policy. You started the discussion of "he is doing this.. and she is doing this" by pointing out MQM but left out Nawaz run Punjab gvt.
I agree that instead of pointing fingers (everyone in Pakistan is dirty) we should look for a solution.
Why settle IDPs in Sindh and Baluchistan when they:
1) Are far away from place of origin: settled areas of NWFP and Punjab are more practical?
2) Have a very harsh climate in the summer peroids?
3) Lack the facilities that are in Punjab?
4) Unfortunately the two smaller provinces already have simmering ethnic conflicts within the settled peoples, why increase the pressure on an already volatile situation?
My suggestion is that a mypoic and one-sided viewpoint is counterproductive, please look at all sides of the sitution and make suggestions that help in reality. Not in some utopia which we obviously don't live in.
@tamaaz khan i really appreciate your recommendations.. but i don't only condemn the sindhi parties.. i condemn all of them.. you know sometimes i think that why don't they call for long march against the loadshedding or suicide blasts.. and Where the hell is CJP. Iftikhar Chaudhry.. at what a joke was that when Govt lowered oil prices only 1 and half rupee..it's ridiculous.. they are earning millions from oil taxes.. then why don't they pay electrical companies so that they can easily produce electricity.. i have a bunch of things in my mind.. and want to share with some one.. but who is gonna do something practically.. we can only write on blogs..or discuss with friends.. but what is gonna change??? nothing.. So what should we do..
@Sikander
@Tamaaz Khan ………
Tamaaz sahab … ur statements are so politically correct and morally diminishing …. what the school teaches us today is the practical side of the matter and hence most of the times we have to leave our human priorities aside . Examples are presented all over your state (the state you believe you represent) a directive from Washington cannot be ignored because we have to look at all sides of the matter .
This is what we have to consider …
The Kingmakers make the kings and prime ministers and presidents . king makers being the US and its allies , pakistanis of all class and caliber and political position have to abide by the norms and writs of the enemies .
Just because practically we are too small , too dependant and too politically shambled . So what we do is that we follow their plans , now they dont care how many killed how many burnt , no politicians and no 1 gives a flying ……. about whether the IDPs get wasted travelling from one place to another .
Practically tamaaz khan you have to keep a certain perspective about what is happening and you have to be "practical" , if you have any rebellion in you then you will become the bane of the society , that is why you keep quiet and submit your opinion to the popular cultural ideology that our media , the west and our politicians are trying to convey …. the doctrine of necessity that allows for following the most shameful of decisions that those scavengers of wealth are making for you
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sikander ….
i was in a discussion today with a friend about wasted talent and misguided rebellion . we reached a conclusion that most of our youth have the rebellion against the establishment (esp those of us who suffer because of this ..financially , morally , socially , politically , judicially , religiously )…
this restlessness of our youth is misdirected as their minds are indoctrinated by either mqm or nawaz sharif or imran khan or false-religious leaders . they have to take out their frustration like we are doing it here … ones who are just restless and lack principal join any group and try to gain power for themselves at any 1s sufferance …..
people like us are confused … we cant leave our jobs and go fight this … we cant get power and change this … what do we do ….
any body heard of cheguevara … he planned and he fought ,, but he did it for the wrong cause .. socialism …
no 1 of us has witnessed "REAL ISLAM" ESTABLISHED' in any city or any country … we havent witnessed the majesty of any righteous Khilafah … we dont know what is it to be a part of the state that has its boundaries from the coasts of australia to the west of africa ….
when our youth and our restless spiritually sad men can get out for justice chaudhry .. why cant we get out and stand for a cause worth something more than an old man with his ego restored ….
dont work for people or organisations … work for the ideology of islam … try ur best to create the Khilafah … because its ALLAH's land and if we work for HIM , HE will grant us inheritance in the land like HE has given to people before us , He will establish in power our true way of life given by HIM , we will worship HIM and HIM alone …..
the system wont change by changing a face .. obama or bush are no different … neither are zardari and musharraf and nawaz ….
viva la islamic revolution
"If Altaf comes to Pakistan he will be killed. That is the reason why he is not coming"
if he is so scarred then why he is in politics?
is he a political leader or mafia boss?
benazeer bhutto had a genuine threat but she didn't cared.
she was a genuine leader.zulifiqar bhutto was genuine leader.
the pussies like asfandiyar wali,nawaz shareef and altaf hussain are nothing but spoiled bread.they are not politicians at all.
tamaaz khan,
you said : If you were from Sindh you would know how much work the MQM city government has done for the city. So much so that cities from interior Sindh are requesting to be placed under the administration of the CDGK. Think Shabaz and Lahore and you will understand. People who used to hate the MQM earlier now vote for them in droves. Their millitancy which was the biggest turnoff is now being seen as a positive – against Swat like Talibanization.
Dude, I am from Karachi. If the mayor of Karachi has done good efforts, then thats his job. Yes he should get kudos for a good job.
But does it mean that we turn a blind eye to all the killings, kidnappings for ransom, Bhatta-khoreee and hijacking of Muhajirs at the hands of Altaf Hussain and his gang?
here is one Muhajir disowning any actions of Altaf Hussain and his gang.
Long live Pakistan, long live people of Swat.
what do u think about full scale operation in lahore & peshawer like as sawat
alot of taliban entered in lahore & peshawer & they doing bum blasting contuning again & again & they have solid position in lhr & peshawer may be Taliban will be enter on more cities of pakistan after lahore therefore i think army should launched operation in lhr & peshawer
lhr & peshawer peoples also should migrate & leave both city for safeness of pakistan
agar sawt walay pakistan ki baqa ki waja se hijrat karr rahe hain to taliban to ab lhr or peshawer me bhi a chukay hain te mera khayal hai inko bhi hijrat karni chahiye or army ko lhr or peshawer me bhi operation karna chahiye in taliban kay khilaf ..jab hi in logo ko pata chalay ga kay hijrat kia hoti hai phir me inse poocho ga kay operation hona chahiye ya nahi
this is not my word this comment given by sawat migrate person that is living in khi
what do u think in
Mohajers(those who are MQM supporters) desperately need to understand few differences.I jut would draw a comparison betwenn Imran Khan and Altaf Hussain.Imran Khan built Shaukat Khanum in both Lahore and Karachi.lahore is Imran's birth palce but why did he biuld SKMH at karachi.That's obviously shows that he equally cares about all pakistanis.If you abuse Imran then what you are expecting from him.I wonder you still are expecting him not to react to your rubbish.Imran took his sasta tandoor programme to karachi besides Rawalpindi,Lahore,Islamabad,and peashawer.
Now coming to Altaf,he is realy a devil who enjoys killing people for his petty poltics.Altaf doesn't order only to kill Punjabis,sindis,Balchis but he has also orderd to kill his polotical opponents who happen to be urdu speaking.
Both Ali Azmat and Salman Ahmed has cateogrically said on media that they have been threatened by MQM many times.
so please understand the difference
@QaimKhani
"kidnappings for ransom, Bhatta-khoreee and hijacking" are a sad reality in present day Pakistan, perpatrateed by all parties not just the MQM.
So why single them out. Pakistanis are in the unfortunate position of choosing the best of the evils. Sadly the only party that has brought forth any developmental change in the Karachi, also has a criminal element. Just like any party in Pakistan.
What are Khi-ites supposed to do not vote for anyone because they are all criminals. Yes, we must condemn the criminal element but give credit where credit is due.
Please tell me one party that is free of these evils. Don't include PTI beacuse it doesn't have a constituency or agenda. It is more a of Imran Khan fan club than anything, constantly shedding and gaining members from whichever new transformation that Imran Khan has taken that day.
@tahir: Ali Azmat and Salman Ahmed do not enter the sphere of political/social commentators from whom I will take any lead. The difference is that real people like Mustafa Kamal bring REAL changes and understand REAL issues. Not hawai-pulao type, circular logic, half-baked, emotional, pseudo policies of the great Khan.
If social-work is the indicator of greatest leader it would be Abdul Sattar Edhi waaaaaaay before Imran khan. Beacause Edhi has been doing this work for 50 years, not for political captial or to take credit. And the tally of his years of service is in a completely different stratosphere than Imran Khan. Secondly Edhi lives amongst the people, understands REAL issues, his family lives here, his life has always been Pakistan. It's not his flavor of the moment, or an idealistic notion, it is his reality. Shouldn't we all vote for EDHI then.
@tamaaz khan i really condemn that you are unable to see PTI existence.. it's not a fan club.. and what Mustafa Kamal is done is praiseworthy. although i have never been to Karachi.. but What Shahbaz sharif is doing is also admirable.. and he is the administrator of a whole province which contains half of Pakistani population. on the other hand Karachi is just a city. whether a big city but no comparison between province and city..
and you also mentioned about Edhi.. so for your information.. Mr Edhi has said that he is being threaten by MQM. it is on record and you may also find this statement in any recent newspaper. i agree that every party has Mafia.. but not as much culprits they have as MQM has..
@Sikandar
I don't really understand your point. Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing with me?
Because Shahbaz Sharif is a perfect case in point. A good administrator, he does well for the people and thats why people support him. But PML is known for its corruption, exta-judical murders and most recently the case of PML-N MNA from Jhang, Iftekhar Ahmad khan who kidnapped a whole family and subjected the men to toture and raped the women beacuse his daughter married a poor man.
There is filth in every party, does that mean that Shahbaz Sharif should not be given praise for his work? Same goes for MQM no better, no worse. We have to choose from the best of teh evils, unfortunately thats the Pkaistan we live in today.
Karachi is just a city which provides for 60% of the country's income tax reciepts, the economic hub of Pakistan, the major port where we import the agriculture we need to feed the country with.
@tamaaz khan i agree with u.. but not completely.. my conflict with you is regarding to Edhi.. and what salman and ali azmat said about MQM..
Posted by Tahir
"Imran Khan built Shaukat Khanum in both Lahore and Karachi.lahore is Imran’s birth palce but why did he biuld SKMH at karachi.That’s obviously shows that he equally cares about all pakistanis."
Well, tell me who is contributing most to help IDPs from Swat. It is USA.
http://www.usaid.gov/pk/mission/news/index.htm
Does that make USA a hero for Pakistanis?
Imran Khan may be a respectable philanthropist, but at the same time, he is a cheap and low-class politician. He jumped into politics too early which exposes his intentions behind being a philanthropist.