Aalim Online – Inciting murder against Ahmedi’s


Dr. Aamir Liaquat Hussain a famous religious host of a show called Aalim Online which airs frequently on Geo TV has entered some hot waters in the past few days. It is believed that his comments on the show may have incited Muslims to target and kill followers of the Ahmedi sect. Dr. Aamir has been running this show for the past many years and has developed a strong following catapulting him to fame to the extent that many Pakistanis swear by his religious commentary on TV, and remains a highly sought after show specially during the month of Ramadan.

Historically Dr. Aamir Liaquat Hussain has had his taste of controversy which started of from his fake degrees where this blogger had labeled him as Jahil Online back in 2005, he was then associated with MQM for a few years and ultimately had a falling out with the party over a controversial comment he made on TV condemning the British author Salman Rushdie, saying that Salman Rushdie should be killed for blaspheming the Holy Prophet (PBUH) in his book, Satanic Verses, after making this comment Mr. Online refused to retract his statement despite immense pressure from the top London based MQM leadership which ultimately lead to his dismissal and soon he also resigned from his Ministry

Asian Human Rights Watch reports that on 7th September in his program ‘Aalim Online’ the anchor declared the murder of Ahmadi sect members to be necessary (Wajib ul Qatal) according to Islamic teachings, because its followers don’t believe in the last prophet, Mohammad, peace be upon him.

Dr. Amir repeated his instruction several times, urging fundamentalists Muslims to kill without fear. While on air the anchor person also pressured the other two Islamic scholars (from two different sects) on the program to support the statement. This resulted in a unanimous decision among the scholars, on air during a popular television show, to urge lynching with the intent to kill.


This was not a one-off. On September 9, Mr. Hussain answered a query with the comment that blasphemers are liable to be put to death.

According to the information received, at 1:15pm on September 8, 18 hours after the broadcast, six persons entered the Fazle Umer Clinic, a two-story hospital at Mirpurkhas city and two of them went to the second floor and started pressuring 45 year-old Dr. Abdul Manan Siddiqui to come downstairs to attend to a patient in crisis. Dr. Manan left his office and descended into an ambush. He was shot 11 times and died on the spot. His private guard was also shot and is in a serious condition. A woman was also injured by firing. The killers remained at the hospital until the doctor was declared dead, then they walked out of the building’s front entrance. Police registered the killers as unknown.

On September 9, 48 hours after the broadcast, Mr. Yousaf, a 75 year-old rice trader and district chief of the Ahmadi sect was killed on his way to prayer in Nawab Shah, Sindh province. Yousaf was fired on from people on motor bikes, and sustained three bullet wounds. He died on the way to the hospital. The assailants had taken a route past a police station. No one was arrested.

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664 responses to “Aalim Online – Inciting murder against Ahmedi’s”

  1. hassan Abbas Avatar
    hassan Abbas

    What a shame.but as i have already posted in a comment else where on this blog ,GEO is funded by the Americans;this is another proof of its activities in support of the US agenda to sow discord in Pakistan.

  2. js Avatar
    js

    hassan: you want to blame this on the americans too? geo is funding the americans, and now we’re absolved of all the guilt and responsibility of fixing this? wow talk about not jhank-ing in your own giraybaan dude. this is a purely pakistani problem that has been brewing for decades. wake up and smell the miswaak — fundamentalism is everywhere. we don’t need to thank the americans for this, we need to take positive steps to fix it.

  3. Baloch Avatar
    Baloch

    Guys,
    I am not a Aamir Liaqat fan. But, did you see the show? Aamir never said you should kill every Ahmedi rather he was just repeating what the punishment is for those who claim to be prophets of Islam after Huzoor (SAWW). He was repeating the what was according to Sharia as well as what Khulfa Rashdeen have done to those who claimed to be prophets. I guess Hazrat Abu Bakr was also wrong in fighting fake prophet of his time. Why we Muslims become so guttless and apologetic that we cannot even defend our faith? We have hide behind all these excuses? What I got from the show was to kill anyone who claims to be a Muslim prophet not everyone who follows them. They actually said that these people were mostly uneducated who followed Ghulam Mohammed during the British time.
    As for Asian HR commission they couldn’t even spell Aalim Online let alone have any moral standing to single out this show. They should go after Dutch government who attached 1.2 billion Muslims with those cartoons.
    My two cents..

  4. Raheel Avatar
    Raheel

    Astaghfir Allah.Astaghfir Allah.Astaghfir Allah.
    jhote par ALLAH tala ki lanat.(AMEEN SUMA AMEEN)

  5. hassan Abbas Avatar
    hassan Abbas

    Baloch,
    CIA has been funding sectarian strife of all types for years.

  6. Karachi-Wala Avatar
    Karachi-Wala

    hassan Abbas,

    Secterian thing is one thing and Muslim and Non-Muslim thing is different. Muslims have always respected non-muslims like Ahmedis and thats why they have places of worship and they live freely and practice their religion.

    But whats surprising in this case is there was always a fight between Shia and Sunnis (Sectarian) but there was never a fight between Muslims and Non-Muslims (Like Ahmedis) in Pakistan. Something is suscpicious here….

    Bhutto’s govt was the first one to declare them KAFIR.

    But the problem is these guys (Ahmedis) they have a problem bug too. From time to time they would raise these kinds of incidents to attract sympathy from their Masters.

  7. hassan Abbas Avatar
    hassan Abbas

    karachi Wala,
    The Ahmedis have never been comfortable in Pakistan,the first anti-Ahmedi roits occuring in 1951 at lahore;when the city was placed under martial law!Bhutto’s government was also forced to declare them kafir because it was an awami party and had to respect the voice of the majority!

    I personally feel that after officially declaring them Kafir or even non-muslim -no one has a right to kill them-or issues fatwas to kill them just because they don’t believe in Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as the last prophet.

    After all no non-Muslim believes in Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)as the lost prophet -and that includes the majority of the world.So are we justified in killing the rest of the world.No Islam allows that.

    Lol!Would you like to get your-self killed just to get some sympathy from some one!Your laugh point shows an alarming mind set!

  8. hassan Abbas Avatar
    hassan Abbas

    js,
    Guess how many millions GEO is being paid to show VOA Urdu service Video regularly -and do the other pro-US propoganda and subtle brain washing of Pakistanis.

    It is the only Pakistani channel doing this so obviously;not even PTV has stooped that low.

  9. Arsalan Qayyum Avatar
    Arsalan Qayyum

    SHAME ON YOU AMIR…. you were working good for GEO but what you have done here is just shamefull.

    no one can punnish you but I belive that Allah will not forgive you now. You will die as horrible death and after death… May Allah Bless you “MR” (i cant use brother for you more) as you have done what, you dont know.

    Take Care All
    Allah Hafiz

  10. KarimG Avatar
    KarimG

    Free and independent media in a third world country that is a US client…impossible. You can have independent journalists and reporters who will just do enough to keep legitimacy and an appearance of free press but a well financed news group like GEO to be free of influence! I don’t buy that.
    You know there is a lot of talk in US about extremism in countries like Pakistan, there needs to be rhetoric from here to feed the rhetoric from there.
    And trust me, MUSH who fed real living breathing people to US for their need to keep terrorism in the forefront, would have shut down GEO or any other news organization in 2 minutes if they were not playing their designated roles. When I say shut down basically the news organization changes hands for a very healthy profit, case and point CNN from Ted Turner (a relatively reasonable news organization) to Time Warner where it turned into PRAVDA of US.
    I will go out on a limb and speculate that very likely Aljazeera also fits in that profile even if it appears that it is ‘balanced’ and pro-Islamic. So this jerk on TV whether knowingly or unknowingly does serve a purpose, he is there for a reason and it’s not necessarily the ratings!

  11. ahsan Avatar
    ahsan

    My Dear Friends

    Dr.Amir Liaqat Ali is wajib ul qatal .. why just tell me if as per every muslim alim and quran and prophets mehdi must come will come before qiymat . is it??? if mehdi come and say to come to me and follow me and do as what i do. because your islam is not real islam its jahil mula and alim`s islam then . an normal muslim what try to do even he is doing as alim teach him grab in his mind to kill that person . if God kill chirstians hindus jewsh and shia they are all living take food everyday God say ist you call them for truth … so the dr jahil mean dr liaqat what should u say now if some body rush to kill the mehdi or mehdi follower is it muslim act??? never say to kill anybody without hatitate if you are in his heart>?? you always kicked shamefully from your party your minstri even your education certificate are not real you are working like a us agent to brain wash the muslims teach terror so us come to pakistan and attack like our south and afghan border

  12. Humzie Syed Avatar
    Humzie Syed

    Dear All,

    Specially Baloch Sahib, I respect your point of view, but by giving such comments Mr. Amir has given right to a nation which cannot decide between right and wrong to an act which is highly debatable, For example Mr. XYZ would not be able to defend himself if Mr. ABC out enimity claim Mr. XYZ to be a wajib qatl for committing any such false blaspemous act, Mr. XYZ wont have second to justify himself… got my point. We are not good enough muslims to have such rights… I might be wrong… and please avoid comparing/commenting religous Caliphs and their ability to judge with that of yours.

    Regards,

  13. khan Avatar
    khan

    There is no excuse for what Liaquat Hussain and his guests did they have blood on their hands.
    Please do not fall into the trap that these Jahil Online twist and distort our true faith. The Caliph fought and put to death these false prophets NOT because of their beliefs but because they instigated rebellion and fought the muslims. “There is no compulsion in Religion”. We are own worst enemies when we allow these fake Aalims to lie and distort the truth. If they lie and continue to lie about their fake degrees why give them any credibility. But this timed they went too far and and should be punished and sanctioned by the regulatory authority or GEO.

  14. FizDosani Avatar

    Dear Awab,
    if you please clear your intention in above post.either you are protecting Rushdie & Ahmedis.
    i am not fan of Geo neither i prefer to watch Amir programme but its a fact that a person who claim himself to be prophet should dead.
    Even every Masalak have clear view for Rushdie no matter if you believe in barelvi, Deo Bandi, Ahl-e-Hadees or Shia.They all believe to kill such people.
    Please justify your self where you stand yourself???

  15. tariq Avatar
    tariq

    Alas! these people know nothing.
    May Allah guide them to the Right Path..
    Ameen

  16. Aamir Avatar
    Aamir

    This is a fact. When you talk like this on international media the response of that will be like that. This is not Islamic Teaching at all. Islam does not allow to kill people like that.

  17. Shadab Avatar
    Shadab

    Dear All,

    Why we always blame americans for every single thing happens around us? because most of us dont THINK and as Allah says that guidance is for those who THINKS. Allah and his prophets has given us the complete guidance for life but we sought our guidance from west. First we dont know whther these killings are directly linked with AOL episode? secondly for those who love their Allah and the prophet would never let anyone to claim false things. What if some one in public abuse our blood relative(father or mother etc), we obviously get furious and tries to take revenge, likewise If we love Allah and his prophet, we can never accept such claims. Dividing muslims in to different sects is a strategy by JEWS as they have done it with christians. So please all Muslims please open your eyes and think ahead of this. We have always been involved in operational matters rather than on strategic. I have seen the episode and in my opinion Dr. Amir has said whatever he should along with the Alims and they agreed on this and who are we to protect all those who are the followers of culprits of Allah.
    May Allah help us to think (Ameen)

  18. Teeth Maestro Avatar

    @FizDosani – im neither protecting Salman Rushdie neither am I an Ahmedi – but I believe the act of killing does not and should not fall in the realm of the ISLAMIC religion. I believe in the fact that we are a peaceful religion, and much can be handled with mutual dialog and understanding. If for the sake of religion you choose to annihilate the other humans being believing in other gods than you are probably touting the wrong beliefs. But mind you these are just my own opinions and no scholarly fatwa’s as probably shared by Jahil Online

    As far as Ahmedi’s go, it is sad that they were condemned, Pakistan was based on the fundamental belief that all religions can be practiced in this free state, yes the Quran and Sunnah comes first so I am no scholar to denounce the age old decision or open a long drawn controversy.

    But I believe in humanity, maybe one day our tolerance and understanding can guide them to our path, but by the use of force / killing / suppression you cannot and will not win the battle.

    It is the same stupid analogy with which the Israeli’s attacked Palestine, USA attacked Iraq, Afghanistan and the Talibans in Pakistan – they assume that if you hit and hit hard they will run and disappear, but in reality it reinforces their resolve to fight back.

    Hence I believe it is wrong to beat and bash – but instead we should guide them to the right way, some may listen some wont, but that itself signifies light at the end of the tunnel

  19. karachikhatmal Avatar

    as i read the comments, i notice how geo is constantly labelled as an american tool. i am also watching the television where geo is running a cutesy animation of the twin towers collapsing. it has people in my office aghast at its insensitivity. so if i follow the conventional logic here, it seems that someone in the US right now is really pissed about how their money is being wasted.

    also, i enjoy how pakistanis seem to believe that the sole purpose for the existence of the US is to meddle in our affairs. its like four score and twenty years ago our forefathers decided to create a country and wait for 150 years for another one to emerge so we could mess with it.

    hahaha

    once we are done killing rushdie, maybe we should read his book ‘shame’. but its incumbent upon us to burn it – and kill all the infidels!!!!

    kill kill kill!

  20. Shadab Avatar
    Shadab

    Well my point was we cannot directly link AOL episode to this killing because if u remember 4 or 5 days back all newspapers have full page columns and stories to condemned false prophethood. I dont know the exact date but it was the marking of the day when National Assembly has passed the resolution to call them non-Muslims and almost every author has shared their opinions in Newspapers. Though im not a fan of AOL

  21. Zaman Avatar
    Zaman

    In a program aired on 7 September 2008 the anchor of the religious program ‘Alam Online’, Dr. Amir Liaquat Hussain–also former federal minister for religious affairs–declared the murder of Ahmadi sect members to be necessary (Wajib ul Qatal) according to Islamic teachings, because its followers don’t believe in the last prophet, Mohammad, peace be upon him. Dr. Amir repeated his instruction several times, urging fundamentalists Muslims to kill without fear.

    While on air the anchor person also pressured the other two Islamic scholars (from two different sects) on the program to support the statement. This resulted in a unanimous decision among the scholars, on air during a popular television show, to urge lynching with the intent to kill. This was not a one-off. On September 9, Mr. Hussain answered a query with the comment that blasphemers are liable to be put to death.

    According to the information received, at 1:15pm on September 8, 18 hours after the broadcast, six persons entered the Fazle Umer Clinic, a two-story hospital at Mirpur Khas city and two of them went to the second floor and started pressuring 45 year-old Dr. Abdul Manan Siddiqui to come downstairs to attend to a patient in crisis. Dr. Manan left his office and descended into an ambush. He was shot 11 times and died on the spot. His private guard was also shot and is in a serious condition. A woman was also injured by firing. The killers remained at the hospital until the doctor was declared dead, then they walked out of the building’s front entrance. Police registered the killers as unknown.

    On September 9, 48 hours after the broadcast, Mr. Yousaf, a 75 year-old rice trader and district chief of the Ahmadi sect was killed on his way to prayer in Nawab Shah, Sindh province. Yousaf was fired on from people on motor bikes, and sustained three bullet wounds. He died on the way to the hospital. The assailants had taken a route past a police station. No one was arrested.

    I am writing you to draw your attention to and request prompt action regarding the latest incident of Ahmadi lynchings, as urged on a popular and seemingly unregulated Pakistani television program. The Anchor person, also former federal minister for religious affairs suggested that the followers be killed as punishment for their religious views.

    According to the information that I have received, Dr. Amir Liaquat Hussain declared the murder of Ahmadi sect members to be necessary (Wajib ul Qatal) according to Islamic teachings, in ‘Alam Online’, aired on September 7, 2008. Dr. Amir repeated his instruction several times, urging fundamentalists Muslims to kill without fear.

    While on air the anchor person also pressured the other two Islamic scholars (from two different sects) on the program to support the statement. This resulted in a unanimous decision among the scholars, on air during a popular television show, to urge lynching with the intent to kill. This was not a one-off. On September 9 Mr Hussain answered a query with the comment that blasphemers are liable to be put to death.

    The killings On September 8 at 1:15 pm, 18 hours after the broadcast, six persons entered the Fazle Umer Clinic, a two-storey hospital at Mirpur Khas city. Two of them went to the second floor and started pressuring 45 year-old Dr. Abdul Manan Siddiqui to come downstairs to attend to a patient in crisis. Dr. Manan left his office and descended into an ambush. He was shot 11 times and died on the spot. His private guard was also shot and is in a serious condition. A woman was also injured by firing. The killers remained at the hospital until the doctor was declared dead, then they walked out of the building’s front entrance. Police registered the killers as unknown.

    On September 9, 48 hours after the broadcast, Mr. Yousaf, a 75 years old rice trader and district chief of the Ahmadi sect was killed on his way to prayers in Nawab Shah, Sindh province. Yousaf was fired on from people on motor bikes, and sustained three bullet wounds. He died on the way to the hospital. The assailants had taken a route past a police station. No one has been arrested.

    It is the responsibility of a government to tackle religious hatred, yet in Pakistan it flourishes. That it can bloom so publicly and has results both bloody and unpunished, is an embarrassment to a country that hopes to be taken seriously outside of its borders. While religious persons can incite murder on mainstream television shows without restraint or legal consequence, a country cannot hope to be considered mature. Neither can its leaders.

    In this context I demand that the government of Pakistan take immediate steps to stop further killings by other religious communities and to investigate the two cases reported above. Those responsible for the killings must be prosecuted and punished according to the law. Immediate measures to prohibit broadcasting and spreading religious hatred through the media.

    I further urge you to investigate those responsible for instigating murders through media broadcast. I also demand for a genuine and humane effort to be made to reintegrate the Ahmadi community into the social fabric of Pakistan. Their civil, human and religious rights must be protected. The government must take the lead to create a space for dialogue between opposing religious communities in Pakistan there by bringing an end to religious and communal violence in the country.

  22. Faisal.K Avatar

    Aamer should be tried and punished for this reprehensible act, our media in question should be muzzled they have lost it totally in the dream of making news instead of reporting it.

  23. Silence Avatar
    Silence

    Every citizen of Pakistan……Shia, Suni, Hindu, Ahmadi or kafir/mushrik,,,,,,,what ever enjoys same protection of law and freedom of faith.

    If some one dont want to believe our prophet, we can not force him to do so on gun pint…..there is no force in religion (HQ).

    Anyone who spreads hatred and issues decree’s of killing is a criminal under the law, constitution and Holy Quran itself.

    If Aamir realy did this, then its crime, noting less.

  24. Zeeshan Qayyum Avatar
    Zeeshan Qayyum

    Salam, I just want to say that Aamir Liaqat has committed suicide. Yes, the results of his beleives will be destructive for him. In the past, whoever has tried to harm or destroy Ahmadis has come to an end. Examples are Zia-ul-Haq who forced Ahmadis to stop preaching but failed. He tried to throw Ahmadis out of Pakistan but Ahmadis spread in the whole world including about 50 lack Ahmadis in Pakistan. Zia-ul-Haq died in a horrible accident and ever his dead body was not found. Similar is the case with Bhutto who was not solely responsible for passing the bill from National Assembly but came under the pressure of Jahil Moulvis. He was hanged by his own beloved Army Cheif. Similar will be the end of Aamir Liaqat Hussain.

    And soon people will realize that whatever people say about Ahmadi Muslims is totally wrong. We are being hated and disliked just as Muslims were disliked by Kufar-e-Makkah and Non-Ahmadi Moulvis are playing the role of Kufar-e-Makkah. Soon truth will be visible to everyone as today the truth of Islam is visible.

  25. S H Avatar
    S H

    The problems is this, the Ahmedis claim themselves to be Muslims. They continue to agitate issues with other Muslims and that brings about more problems. Soon as they stop calling themselves Muslims, the Muslims not only in Pakistan but around the world will stop making such statements against them.

    All citizens of Pakistan should be given protection for their choice of belief. There is no compulsion in Islam and that is very clearly stated in the Quran.

  26. S H Avatar
    S H

    I will add that the Ahmedis are not a sect of Islam, as some are led to believe.

    What I would really like to know is this, why is this issue coming up now? Do we not has Pakistanis have enough issues on the table?

  27. S H Avatar
    S H

    @ zeeshan, keep dreaming.

  28. Zeeshan Qayyum Avatar
    Zeeshan Qayyum

    S H I respect your comments. I’m an Ahmadi Muslim. I’ve a question. When we’ve tried to agitate issues with other Muslims??? Can you please indicate any event??? And secondly you wrote “Problem is this that Ahmadis claim themselves Muslims”. Please tell me that if a person Muslim, isn’t it his right to call himself Muslim??? Just becaue other people will not like it??? How can we get back if we’re from Allah and if we’re the biggest lover of Hazrat Muhmmad (PBUH)??? How can we??? We’re not human made Jamaat or a party. We’re the Jamaat of promissed Messeih of Allah. That Messeih and prophet about whom Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) predicted. And you’re saying that we should stop calling ourselves Muslims??? Just because of the fear that we’ll be killed. How can we fear if we’re true??? Are you serious???

  29. Silence Avatar
    Silence

    According to Article 20 of Constitution of Pakistan 1973:

    Freedom to profess religion and to manage religious institutions;

    Subject to law, public order and morality:-

    (a) every citizen shall have the right to profess, practice and propagate his religion; and

    (b) Every religious denomination and every sect thereof shall have the right to establish, maintain and manage its religious institutions.

    Article: 9

    No person shall be deprived of life or liberty, save in accordance with law.

  30. mohsin Avatar
    mohsin

    i want to told all commentator that who give rights to mullah’s to declare who is muslim and who is not. infact these mullahs are the most bad creature in the universe now accoerding to surrah allah almighty says that in last time near by qayamat the baddest creature on the earth will be muslims scholars and mullahs
    by the way how these people declare that ahmedi are non muslim when they always says that they are muslim,so why these mullah are trying to declare them non muslim, what type of muslim mullahs are did they not see the hadith of hazrat muhammad (PBUH) THAT ONCE A SAHABA IKRAM WAS NEARLY TO KILL A NON MUSLIM IN BATTLE AND THE PERSON SUDDENLY PRAY KALIMA AND BUT THAT SAHABA KILLED HIM WHEN THIS NEWS REACH HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (PBUH) HE SAID TO THAT SAHABA THAT WHY WOULD U KILL HIM, HE SAYS HAZOOR HE BECAME MUSLIM BY THE FEAR OF DEATH NOT BY HEART HAZOOR SAYS HOW COULD U KNOW RATHER HE IS MUSLIM OR NOT DID U TEAR INSIDE HIS HEART.
    NOW ACCORDING TO THAT HADITH HOW COULD THESE MULLAH DECLARE ANY ONE A NON MUSLIM

  31. Silence Avatar
    Silence

    @SH

    Suppose I do not believe in Allah, or I do not believe in Prophet or any part or practice of Islam (Nauz Billah), still call my self a Muslim, still I enjoy the same rights under constitution and it is only Allah who has authority to judge me and my faith.

    No person has a right to decide weather I am a less Muslim or more.

    The law declaring Ahamid’s is discriminatory and politically motivated, it have nothing to do with religion and constitution.

    This is 21 century and as you said we have already enough problems, we need to move ahead of this non sense deciding about others beliefs.

    The document which binds us as a nation is our constitution, religion have no place in the agreement to live to gather in a state governed by constitution.

  32. Schayb Avatar
    Schayb

    In retrospect,

    I dont find any analogy between the 2 acts..AOL Show and Dr.Amir’s comments and the murder.

    Do we have any evidence of these 2 acts being linked in any way?

  33. S H Avatar
    S H

    @ zeeshan, if you really wish to know, I can share my views on this subject. I did not say remarks about the founder of your faith and can bring texts from your own books and you can see the deviancy from Islam, of how they are different. It is not a sect issue.

    @ silence, you have a right to call yourself as you like. You are confusing the culture with the faith. Only God can judge if anyone of us is a true believer. We can certainly try to be Muslims. Defining what is a Muslim is not set by me. Go pick up the Quran and study the sunnah of the life of Prophet Muhammad (saw) and you can see what a Muslim is and should be.

    You are further confusing yourself of what the founder of the Ahmedis thought his people. Go educate yourself a little more. The problem is and will remain that they and other lunatics agitate these issues.

    What I find really pathetic and sad here is why are we even debating this issue? Do we not have enough issues as Pakistanis to be concerned over? If it is not this Ahmedis issue, tomorrow it is something else. Why are we always confused?

  34. Musawir Avatar
    Musawir

    Dear Brother in Islam
    Asalam-O-Alaikum

    It is shame that we are killing innocent people in the name of most beautiful and peaceful religion. So called Aalim who have no knowledge of religion use Islam to promote their evil idiology. This same Mr. Liaqqyat was asking US goverment to release Dr. Affia on the humanity basis and very soon after this humble request he shows his own ungly face. No where in Quran Allah permits you to kill any innocent person and no one can show a single example of this babaric act from the Sunnah of Mohammad PBUH.

    May allah guide us to the right path and forgive our sinns. Amen

  35. S H Avatar
    S H

    I would encourage those wanting to understand the Ahmediis faith and their beliefs, look a this site:

    http://www.themodernreligion.com/index2.html

    This is a gentle view on this subject and one learn of other movements as well, that have deviated from the teachings of the Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (saw). Do some study and come to your own conclusions.

    And God knows best.

  36. Farhan Avatar
    Farhan

    it’s just unbelivebale. In an world-wide-aired program, a mullah is calling to kill ahamdis and nothing happens.

    has anytime any ahmadi try to kill someone?

    the ahamdis are doing more tabligh for the islam then the self called mullahs. ahmadis are building hospitals and schools in africa. translated the quran in more that 60 languages etc.

    the mullah are fund-raising money for jihad. look at waziristan, look at swat and peshawar, look at the red mosque…. and that u call islam… but people, who are living peacefully and didnt not harm anyone, the mullah wants the to get killed…

    it no wonder, that so many “azab” has come to pakistan, the earthquakes and all the instability… just take care that not allah will punish the whole country becoz of the misleading muallahs

  37. Imran Ali Avatar
    Imran Ali

    SH – Your comments are laughable. Pakistan is the laughing stock of the world. You say that Pakistan has enough to worry about without Ahmadi issues. I would say the 2 are related. Islamic Extremism. The daft uneducated mullahs who today infact are effectively running Pakistan. They spew their hatred and people like you turn a blind eye because ‘Pakistan has enough problems’. As someone who was born in Britain I say this. This country has has given me far more (allows muslims to practice their faith openly, education, jobs) then Pakistan ever could. If you want Pakistan to progress, I suggest all the uneducated hate inciting mullahs are given a one way ticket to a country of their choice.

  38. Umair Ahmad Avatar
    Umair Ahmad

    SH I’ve done all the research on Ahmadiyyat thank you very much which is why I’m an Ahmadi. You don’t need to visit the website to get an idea of Ahmadiyyat. Just watch our 24 hour channel MTA. You might get an idea of what real Islam is and educate yourself. As for deviating from Islam, how often do you visit a pir baba? Also, how will you recognise thr messiah when he comes?

  39. S H Avatar
    S H

    @ Imran Ali & Umair Ahmad,

    Great! I wish you well, and enjoy your life of ignorance!

    In regards to your comment of going to a pir baba, that tells a lot of what I know and understand.

    As to the rest of your mumbo mumbo, please try that on an uneducated person.

  40. S H Avatar
    S H

    @ Imran Ali & Umair Ahmad,

    Great! I wish you well, and enjoy your life of ignorance!

    In regards to your comment of going to a pir baba, that tells a lot of what I know and understand.

    As to the rest of your mumbo jumbo, please try that on an uneducated person.

  41. Asim Avatar
    Asim

    Beware of Qadyanis,

    They are Meethee Churree, they seem harmless people and mean no ‘physical harm’ to any Muslim yet they corrupt the religion of Islam.

    They are the ones spreading ‘Fasaad’ on earth under the disguise of peace-loving mission. Their mission is synonym to operation Freedom-Iraq.

    May Allah curse the false prophet Kafir Mirza. His followers are on this forum too, diguising as Muslim and Pakistan lovers.

  42. Asim Avatar
    Asim

    Farhan,

    Ahmedis are not doing tableegh of Islam, rather they are distracting Muslims away from Islam.

    There is no Prophet after Muhammad (S.A.W.W) and Kafir Mirza couldn’t even make up his mind if he was Imam Mahdi or Jesus or just a new prophet altogether.

  43. S H Avatar
    S H

    Asim,

    God alone gives hidaya. Be kind to them for one never knows if they do end up on the right path.

    You are absolutely right, there is no prophet after Prophet Muhammad (saw).

    Our task is nothing more than to convey the truth, hidayah is in the hands of Allah alone.

    They are very good in distorting the facts, Quran and Hadith, and even the writings of their founder to suit their purpose. And finally when you think that you have cornered them in a very logical manner, they simply change the topic.

    That is why Allah has said that He has sealed their hearts and ears. One can only pray for them, that they do see the truth.

    Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find peace.

  44. Momen Avatar
    Momen

    What a shame for all muslims especially the pakistani muslims (so called) how can they claim that killing any human being can take them straught to heaven?????its a clear denial of what GOD and the prophet(PBUH)’God has said in his book Quran. Is this the great religious aalim these stupid people are following???? what a shame

  45. Asim Avatar
    Asim

    I have never watched Amir Liaqat’s show as I was never a fan of him, but looks like Ahmedis and other naive Muslims want to replace him with Pamela Anderson so that Islam will look cool…

  46. FastingMuslim Avatar

    @Baloch. “They actually said that these people were mostly uneducated who followed Ghulam Mohammed during the British time” Perhaps a flaw in your “highly educated” credentials, but I think you’ll find it’s “Ghulam Ahmad (as)”. In addition, all knowledge comes from the All Knowing, not through self-study. Our Master and Khataman-Nabiyeen Hadhrat Muhammad Rasoolullah (saw) did not know how to read and write. His followers were not the academic elite. Allah (swt) gave them monumental supremacy against all opposition. The Sun of Muhammad (saw) is reflected in the Moon of Ghulam Ahmad (as). He is the perfect follower of The Holy Prophet (saw). But of course, your highly educated. I’ll leave you to make up a more informed decision: http://www.alislam.org

  47. Asim Avatar
    Asim

    Look what Ahemdis think about regular Muslims.

    According to Ghulam Kafir Kadiani:
    “God has revealed to me that anyone to whom my message has reached and he has not accepted me , he is not a muslim.” (Letter of Mirza to Dr. Abdul Hakeem Khan Patialvi)

  48. ahmad ismail Avatar

    Assalam alaikum

    Hey, you can know more in Ahmadiyya(DOT)wordpress(DOT)com

  49. aOne Avatar
    aOne

    Can anyone post links to that episode of Alim Online?

    Geo has taken these videos off the youtube? Any one…

  50. MUNIR AHMAD Avatar
    MUNIR AHMAD

    ASALM U ALAIKUM
    my dear islamic brother iwould like to mention that AMIR LIAKAT is a big liar GOD will not forgive him.his not a muslim and even he doesnt know the bit of islamic teachings the only word islam means salamti PEACE and is he spreading peace in the country by his remarks he doesnt know a bit of quran i think the quranic verse that is SUMUN BUKMUN UMYUN that they are deaf dumb and blind it clearly aplies on him .
    ALLAHwil not let him go free i dont know what kind of muslim scholar is he he is the CURSED ONE LANTI
    the holy quran clearly says that a propht can com but not with new shariat but under the shariat of THE HOLY PROPHET. there is no doubt that islam is last religion and perfect religion .i can show u from the HOLY QURAN THAT A PROPHET CAN COME so plz AMIR LIAKAT fear god he is on u U SEE EARTH QUAKES ARE BEING COME .