Dr. Aamir Liaquat Hussain a famous religious host of a show called Aalim Online which airs frequently on Geo TV has entered some hot waters in the past few days. It is believed that his comments on the show may have incited Muslims to target and kill followers of the Ahmedi sect. Dr. Aamir has been running this show for the past many years and has developed a strong following catapulting him to fame to the extent that many Pakistanis swear by his religious commentary on TV, and remains a highly sought after show specially during the month of Ramadan.
Historically Dr. Aamir Liaquat Hussain has had his taste of controversy which started of from his fake degrees where this blogger had labeled him as Jahil Online back in 2005, he was then associated with MQM for a few years and ultimately had a falling out with the party over a controversial comment he made on TV condemning the British author Salman Rushdie, saying that Salman Rushdie should be killed for blaspheming the Holy Prophet (PBUH) in his book, Satanic Verses, after making this comment Mr. Online refused to retract his statement despite immense pressure from the top London based MQM leadership which ultimately lead to his dismissal and soon he also resigned from his Ministry
Asian Human Rights Watch reports that on 7th September in his program ‘Aalim Online’ the anchor declared the murder of Ahmadi sect members to be necessary (Wajib ul Qatal) according to Islamic teachings, because its followers don’t believe in the last prophet, Mohammad, peace be upon him.
Dr. Amir repeated his instruction several times, urging fundamentalists Muslims to kill without fear. While on air the anchor person also pressured the other two Islamic scholars (from two different sects) on the program to support the statement. This resulted in a unanimous decision among the scholars, on air during a popular television show, to urge lynching with the intent to kill.
This was not a one-off. On September 9, Mr. Hussain answered a query with the comment that blasphemers are liable to be put to death.
According to the information received, at 1:15pm on September 8, 18 hours after the broadcast, six persons entered the Fazle Umer Clinic, a two-story hospital at Mirpurkhas city and two of them went to the second floor and started pressuring 45 year-old Dr. Abdul Manan Siddiqui to come downstairs to attend to a patient in crisis. Dr. Manan left his office and descended into an ambush. He was shot 11 times and died on the spot. His private guard was also shot and is in a serious condition. A woman was also injured by firing. The killers remained at the hospital until the doctor was declared dead, then they walked out of the building’s front entrance. Police registered the killers as unknown.
On September 9, 48 hours after the broadcast, Mr. Yousaf, a 75 year-old rice trader and district chief of the Ahmadi sect was killed on his way to prayer in Nawab Shah, Sindh province. Yousaf was fired on from people on motor bikes, and sustained three bullet wounds. He died on the way to the hospital. The assailants had taken a route past a police station. No one was arrested.
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664 responses to “Aalim Online – Inciting murder against Ahmedi’s”
@Adnan Siddiqui,
When you take pride is humiliating someone who is regarded as a prophet by a group of people (although you do not agree to them), do you have any right to protest when the cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) are published by people who do not recognise him a prophet? There is no difference between you and them.
Muslims are being ridiculed everywhere in the world because of the hypocrites like you. Shame on you!!!
well done Mr. Kashif Jahangiri
Its not a Aalim online : That program’s new name Jahil Online with Jali Dr.
AWW It is easy to point out the weaknesses of others, by using derogatory terms.
People tend to demean others, by sitting on a high pedestal. Yet, it is Allah and Allah alone who has the power to look into our hearts to determine who is a Believer and who is not.
Next time someone points his finger at another, let him take a long look at his hand and see how many fingers are pointing in his direction.
This is a CLARIFICATION FOR MR, ADNAN SIDDIQI.
Mr. Adnan, In Jama’at Ahmadiyya punjabi’s does not hold the majority any more. Off course they should be in majority ’cause Ahmadiyyat started from Punjab. So it make sense that majority of the followers were from punjab. IN 1990’s when MTA ( Muslim Television Ahmadiyya) started its broadcast 24/7/365 days a year in many different languages, Millions of people from African world joined Ahmadiyyat the real Islam.
Now Mr. Adnan does not read the newspaper or explore the internet, or may be he is like a pigeon who closes its eyes when sees cat. Mr. Adnan get over it and come and join THE REAL ISLAM,”AHMADIYYAT”. I would like to thanks these so called MULAS, “THE HIJACKERS OF ISLAM”, because of them many and many people coming to know AHMADIYYAT and these SHAHADAT’s will bring more fruit to AHMADIYYAT.
NOW few years back BBC did research about the Death of JESUS and produced a documentary “DID JESUS DIE”.
i have attached the link for you guys to see and get knowledge from it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXCZFRsyl8
Mr. ADNAN, these MULAS have brain washed people like you who don’t have a clue about islam.
In the end i pray for you specially mr. ADNAN that GOD open your heart and eyes to explore your self.
MAY ALLAH TAKE CARE OF PAKISTAN.
molvis are corrupting the minds of the bulk of illiterate pakistanis which results in intolerance against nonmuslims even minority sects of islam .local and international media has uncovered the true face of the molvis spreading hatred against hindus ,christians ,agakhanis ,ahmedis etc.
American governement for its capitalist objective in muslim world capitalize on this extremist approach of a handful muslims and enters in muslim world for its vicous targets in the name of alleviating religios extremism and extremist muslims as they are shown as a danger to civilized world .
Every body has a right to live his life on his/her way given he doesnt interfere in others religious affairs . but what i see in pakistan is that molvis and religious pundits just to ensure their religios shops running deliver futwas, that works the worst .
following the molvis makes nothing but giving america or its local allies in pak to hit the people calling for the rights .
in nutshel we can say molvis ,generals and politician work on the us policies against the common people as to save the stake in the name of religion ,nationalism and so on . we as common people should ponder over it.
I guess everyone has a right to live; whatever their believes are.. here is an article that might help understanding this http://www.pak-times.com/2008/09/14/culture-of-intolerance/
Just for your information the body guard of late Dr. Abdul Manan sahib died in hospital in karachi and another innocent shot and killed in karachi after the death of Doctor sahib. We have received information that Ahmadi Doctor’s are getting death threats in Hyderabad also. May allow help them to stead fast on their belief.May allow help innocent and Uneducated pakistani’s to open their eyes, specially now when Pakistan is getting targeted by outsiders. Ameen, Suma Ameen.
Love for all hearted for none
allah sab mullah ko akkal de aur ahmadiyya jamat ko in ke schar se bachae rakkhe
Kashif Jehangiri, humiliating Mirza Qadyani? how did I humiliate him? His death itself is offensive for his followers? If you have no friggin idea how did he die then better ask any Qadyani about “Rehlat” of their “Prophet”
According to your theory, if I announce I am the god, you will start licking my toe, yeah right!
Shahid ahmad: lol thanks for giving laugh and detailed speech about “true qadyaniat” 😀
Awab I was contacted by few people about his program and ACTUAL words he said.
I was told he said the person who claim to be a prophet is WAJIBUL QATAL rather followers. Now if this is true then how can Amir be blamed for killing of those Qadyanis? do you have complete video?
@Adnan Siddiqui,
Does his death entitle to to say Lá’nat Ullah about him knowing that he is regarded holy by a group of people!
When he died, he was surrounded by his own people and not by his enemies. I know that Ahmedis do not believe in the story narrated about his death. Do you have any eye witness who saw how he died?
You are a perfect example of the Hadith by Holy Prophet that a liar is someone who spreads something on the basis of hearsay and without verifying the fact.
I live in the West and am challenged by Christian about reason why the Holy Prophet married an 11 year old girl (Hadhrat Ayesha) and they make fun of this only because they do not recognise him as a holy man. I see no difference in them and you. Both have a gutter mentality. Shame on you. You are a disgrace to humanity, let alone Islam.
Well Mr. Adnan i can pray for your and your love ones to come to the real teaching of islam “Ahmadiyyat”. Every single day hundreds of muslims and non muslims are joining the The real islam “Ahmadiyyat”. So my friend you and people like you have no solid ground that’s why So called Muslim scholars and innocent people like you use gutter language. Islam is the religion of Peace. Islam is the religion of Peace, not a hatred.
We strongly believe in our Motto, “LOVE FOR ALL, HATRED FOR NONE”. we have proved in the past, proving at very moment and will prove in the future that we will not start killing innocent people, though we can do that. But we have manners and can bear people like.
We need to understand the current situation of our motherland, why Pakistan has come to this point and at the global level why Muslim umma come to this disappointing
level of respect.
The Answer is “Fundamentalism”. Mulas has hijacked our religion of PEACE.
So Mr. Adnan have some proof before writing here on this blog.
thanks
Shea people abuse Hazrat Aesha (ra) and 4 khalifaz but this man amir liaqat never questioned the shea aalim sitting beside him that why do they do it. a person says that ahmadis are wajib ul qatal on Geo tv and this so called aalim online didnt say anything that you are telling people to kill other, Geo should be shotped in countries like canada, bcz they tell people to kill others. and i am gona work on it. they forget the quranic Ayat “aik insaan ka qatal puri insaniyat ka qatal hai”. so who is kafir? they are denying quran. quran didnt say “aik musalmaan ka qatal” btu it say “aik insaan ka qatal”. how come aalim online never call those people wajib ul qatal who make cartoons of Mumhammad (pbuh). you know why? because these countries will stop broadcasting GEO in their country and geo will loose money.
Why call liaqat hussein Dr.? His degrees are fake. His whole life is a fake. He is shaitan.
http://www.ummat.com.pk/Kahanian/misc_stories/aamir_liaquat.htm
This one goes for the one who said that God forbid Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (The Promised Messiah and Mahdi) died an accursed death. This claim is so similar to the claim of the Jews at the time of Jesus (the first Messiah) and still today that Jesus (AS) God forbid died an accursed death. Both the claims of Jews and the Muslims of today are wrong but the similarity between the non-Ahmadi Muslims of today and the Jews at the time of Jesus is so amazing and it perfectly explains the hadith of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) that a time will come when the Muslims will resemble exactly like the Jews at the time of Jesus.
Thanks Nuke786 for your written proof of Mr. Jahil online.
Well Mr Bilal,
Do you still believe that time will come? I think time has come.
salam to all its the best way to tell abt the right and wrong.hundred of thounsands pakistanees think like that but OUR SO CALLED ULAMAYE DEEN THEY ALMWAYS GO FROM THAT MEETING WHERE THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD.there r many more problems which pakistan is facing these days but mr aamir liaqat and hundreds SO CALLED ULAMAYE DEEN r just violating here and there.they dont have anything to do with the people of this country. RASOOL E PAAK (SAWAW)SAID IN ONE OF HIS TRIDITION THAT “USS WAQAT KEY ULAMA ZAMEEN PAR BAD TAREEN MAKHLOOQ HON GEY”.and today we r seeing this marvolous news of these days by RASOOL E PAAK (SAWAW).SO PLS WHO EVER IS KEEN TO UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT SIDE OF PICTURE HE OR SHE SHOULD ASK THE PERSON WHO IS HAVING THAT THING.IF SB IS A THIEF AND WE WILL ASK ANYBODY ELSE THAT U R A THIEF THEN PEOPLE SAY US MAD.IF WE WANT KEEN ABT THE FACTS THEN WE SHOULD ASK THE AHMADEES ON WHT THEY BELIEVE OR WHT THEY DISBELIEVE.OUR TV CHANNELS AND OUR GOVT SHOULD GIVE THEM FREE HAND TO TELL ABT THEIR FAITHS THEN THE TRUE STORY WILL COME IN FRONT OF ALL OF US.in this way we can share alot of thing we r doubtful abtI WILL REQUEST THE WRITERs TO KEEP ON WRITING THE ACTUAL AND TRUE FACTS.MAY ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY FORIVE US IN HIS HOLY MONTH OF RAMAZAN. AMEEN.
Allah Says in Sura Al-Baqarah ” They are deaf, dumb and blind; so they will not return”. The example of these people is exactly same. Once I attended a lecture delivered by a highly eduacted scholar in Multan. He was the Head of Islamic Education Deptt of BZU. During his lecture, he explained a strange picture of Dajjal and according to him Dajjal was a person to be born in the last days with one physical eye. Similarly, most of others still believe same apart from few of them who can understand Shan-e-Mohammad Mustafa SAW and his predictions about last days. In the follow up of such Jahil Mullas, they killed a young guy in Pakistan who was born with one eye. What a great understanding of religion.
Un fortunate thing for these people is they are just Muslims in the books but their deeds dont suggest them to be muslims and this thing is a great evidence of a Hadith Sharif that Islam will be there just as a name. But having said that, a big job has been assigned to you “The Ahmadi Muslims” to bring back these people on the right track. A track that will take them to only one center and that center is Hadhrat Aqdas Muhammad Mustafa SAW. Always pray for these lost sheeps and remember your ambition is..
Shaitaan kee hakoomat mit jayee iss Jahan sey
Hakim Tamam Duniyaa par Mera Mustafa(SAW)Ho
i dont care what is your belief and i dont care what is mine, killing someone just because they dont think what you think is against humanity. why do we cry why west media criticise us. well, they have reasons. I use to respect amir liaqat bcz i thought that he is not fundamentalist like “molvis” but when i saw him crying in screaming like hell durin DUAA on shab e miraj or shab e baraat, i changed my mind. I mean who you are showing you tears Allah or people. He we kept saying during that ijtamaai dua that “ager rona nahi aata to ronay jesa mun bana lain”, what the hell is that mean, are you doing drama in front of allah? and there is no concept of ijtamaai dua in islam, i mean its nothing wrong with it but dont tell people to do this and make that kind of face during dua.
Why dont we keep the religin to our personal life? why do we want others to think like us? a very famous saying is that, “her aik ne apni apni qabar main jana hai” so why we think that some ahmadi’s beleif will harm non ahmadis. allah took the responsibility to take care of islam so why the hell are we killing each others?
some one did actually call him Jahil Online… he mentioned aaam muslim… can any one tell me what is aaam muslim and what is Khas Muslim. that’s the 1st point the second point people we are talking about Pakistan no matter what their beliefs are but yeah they are Pakistanis and they have got the right on every thing others do these stupid media people like this jahil online make these fanatics comes in front of the face and start killing innocent Gunnah hey Islam never asked any Muslim to kill some one like this than who the hell he is to declare Ahmadis Wajib-ul-Katal Pakistan is going down the hill in every possible sense and these stupid people are trying to keep Pakistanis fighting with each other within Pakistan.
Guys grow up no matter what stay together and fight the external powers 1st save your nation and when you hold some identity than start talking about the issues within pakistan.
I for one am totally against killing anyone for anything. Only the state has the right to impose death penalty on anyone, not any individual. So, any such brutal acts should not be linked to the Muslims in general.
As far as Ahmadi beliefs are concerned, I have yet to meet an Ahmadi that can explain what they really believe in. Even in the discussion above, you can see 2 entirely different viewpoints about Mirza Ghulam Ahmad from supposedly Ahmadi followers. One says that according to Quran, there can be more prophets after Muhammad (PBUH), another one says that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was not a prophet, he was a revivalist like Jesus. I have also heard many Ahmadis saying that Jesus can come after Muhammad (PBUH)and that does not violate Muhammad (PBUH) being the last prophet as Jesus initially came before Muhammad (PBUH) and still others saying that Mirza was not Jesus as Mirza used very harsh words for Jesus in his books. Confusion all around.
http://e-iqra.com/v2/pages/booksCat.php?id=1
ok I want to know what a normal muslim belive. What do you think about Jesus? Do you belive he is gone to the sky like christens? How can u think that the same Jesus can come back? Where is he now? I belive he has a normal death and the same person CAN’T COME BACK? YEH TO KHUDA KI KUDRAT KAY KHILAF BAAT HUI!!!!! How can he come back with the teachings of islam??????? Waht do u say about that?
salam MR SAM this link is for u.u have mentioned the site abt which other ulamye deen believe in.just go to this site and check out the real ISLAM.
this is for AIK INSAAN,
MR. INSAAN, Ahmadies strongly believe that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian was Mesiah Maoed and a Nabi without new Shriat. It means that he will follow and preach the teachings of our beloved Last Prophet Hazrat Muhammad PBUM.
Now if we are wrong how come we are growing and flourishing.
Mr. Insaan no one knows these so called Muslim Scholars other than uneducated pakistanis. So its time to acknowledge and join the righteous. Its time to say no to extremism and Fundamentalism.
One should not forget few years back when we had earthquake in pakistan, Just few days before that some so called Mujahideen-e- islam attacked on Ahmadiyya mosque in punjab, killing people and injured many while they were praying.
Assalam-o-Alaikam.
@ AIK INSAN.
Mr. AIK INSAN I want to say something. Please read it. All of the Ahmadis have only one beleive that Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) is khatam-un-Nabiin. He’s the seal of all prophets and the last Sharaiye Nabi. There can be no Sharaiye Nabi after Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) but ummati-Nabi can be. Umaati-Nabi is one who is from the ummat of Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH). No new religion, no new book, no new shariat. Hazrat Massih Maud (Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed) claimed to be ummati-Nabi, Massih-Maud, Mehdi Maud, Immam-Mehdi, second coming of Jesus along with other daawas. He put an end to all the awaitings of people of this world. Everyone is waiting for someone. Jesus will not come again as it’s proved from Quran that he’ll not.
Hazrat Ayesha (RA) said :
Translation:
“Ye to kaho ke Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) haakam-un-nabiin hain lekin ye naa kaho ke un ke baad koi nabi nahin aaye ga”
(Tafseer-ul-Darar-almansoor, Volume 5, Page 204).
The views of different non-Ahmadi ulema on this saying can be found on the given link when clearly tells that Ummati-Nabi can come.
Here is the link : http://www.alislam.org/urdu/la-nabi-baadi/
If you are unsure about the claims of Hazrat Messeih Maud or you have some questions about it then you can visit the link given below. Don’t worry many people take alot of time to understand there daawas and other things about his life but keep on searching. One day ultimately, you’ll get answers to all of your questions and till then remain un-baised. Do not search with thinking about someone. Remain totally un-baised while reading his books and our literature. Here is the link:
http://www.alislam.org/urdu/
And remember, Quran is the book of highest integrity and respect. It can become a source of light for someone but at the same time any person can also be gumrah as this book needs correct interpretation of Aayat. Allah bless the strength of correct interpretation of Aayat of Quran to his loved ones. Similarly as you see today many people are mis-guiding others on the name of Quran.
May Allah show you only right direction.
(Aameen)
@ Bilal
Bilal you’re right. Non-Ahmadis object on Hazrat Messeih Maud’s death as Jews object on Hazrat Eesa’s (Jesus) death. But slowly Allah is giving hadaith to them and people from all around the world are entering into Islam through Jamaat-Ahmadia.
This Aayat of Surat Bakra fits on them:
“Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah’s Guidanca), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.”
Zeeshan Qayyum,
Your self-proclaimed *Messiah* Ghulam Kafir Qadiani couldn’t cure himself then how could he cure other people (as Essa (AS) did).
Your membership may be growing, but does that mean you are right? NO I bet playboys membership is increasing too, so does it mean that Playboy is a righteous publication? It may be in your religion, but its definitely not in Islam.
Muhammad (S.A.W.W) said in a Hadith which means that near the end of time, ignorance would increase.
For these qadianis there is mentioned several times in Quran…they can enjoy as much as they want they have limited days in this world, then they would be returned to their lord, who has a tormentful punishment for them and they will dwell the bottom pit of hell where they will live forever.
Surely Allah does not guide the transgressors.
May Allah curse those who spread mischief in this world, like Ghulam Kafir Qadiani, AMeen.
No wonder these so-called muslims are getting hammered by the kuffar.Liaqat Fake on Line who bought fake degrees will soon see the wrath of almighty, inshallah. I hope the mullahs who are paedophiles and preach murder get done in a bad way. Ghulam Ahmad kee Jay
Zeeshan. If we are going to go to hell then why murder us you aaaresehole. Madar choda.
@ LongLiveAmir. Your response is not able to be commented. As you did not give any references from Quran or Hadees but just used abusive language.
One of the biggest clue of lie is that he fails to prove himself and starts using abusive language. Anyways may Allah guide you to the right path.
And the Hadees you quoted exactly fits people like you. But you people keep on ignoring.
Your nick also reflects you. LongLiveAmir. Aamir is also like you. He reflected in Aalim Online and you reflect here.
Take care.
Allah Hafiz.
@Ghulam Rasool..
have patience. if you start using such language, i see no difference between aamir liaqat and you. just saying Ghulam Ahmad kee Jay does not prove you to be a good person. Try to set good example please.
@ Ghulam Rasool Qadiani. Ghulam Rasool you wrote wrong name. Me Zeeshan is an Ahmadi Muslim alhamdulillah. Re-read the comments and corret the name.
But I advice you to not use any false comments against Non-Ahmadis even if they kill us or even if they curse us.
Remember LOVE FOR ALL, HATRED FOR NONE.
Jehangiri, that particular “GROUP” claims to be “MUSLIMS” and if they claim they are Muslims then they should have IDEA that what are basics of Islam. Mirza Qadyani(Lanatullah Alhye) rejected Jesus, He rejected that Muhammad(SAW) was the last prophet. If Qadyanis are “MUSLIMS” then they should have condemned Mirza at first place but they are partner in crime. If there PROPHET was true then why didn’t he fulfill even a SINGLE Prophecy? does this mean his followers were plain dumb and ignorant?
And do clear one thing in your mind that for me Christians and Jews re more respectable than these Qadyanis. Unlike Other people of Book, Qadyanis are traitors , they represent themselves as MUSLIMS while they promote their own teachings. Atleast Christians/jews/Hindus etc say loudly what they are, more respectable for me than these qadyanis. However I never would say they should be killed. Their own religious belief is enough for them as a punishment till their death, why on earth I pollute my tongue by cursing them yea but they have NO right to use other religion to promote their own teachings.
Qadyaniat is the religion promoted by British empire at the time when they were in Sub continent and they wanted to bring a religion to “REPLY” Islam. That was not last attempt. Recently Americans did same when they brought up their version of Quran named “Al-Furqan”.
For a guy here preaching about HAQANIYAT of Qadyanism, please tell this guy (http://suspectpaki.com) who reverted to Islam by quitting Qadyaniat. 🙂
@ Adnan Siddiqi.
Adnan your reply don’t deserve any comments because you put only false blames and nothing else. Blames like Ahmadis are made by British or whatever. I don’t want to comment on it as I don’t want to waste my time explaining you all this.
But one thing I’ll like to defend is that you said ” If there PROPHET was true then why didn’t he fulfill even a SINGLE Prophecy?”
Alas! My dear keep your eyes closed. But basically you don’t know that all of the prophecies of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed (Rehmat-ullah-Alih) fulfilled. Now you’ll ask me for the proof or explanation so I think I should answer your question before you ask. Because I’m not going to read any more comments of you. For details about prophecies just move your mouse over the given links.
http://www.real-islam.org/eclipse/index.html
http://www.real-islam.org/urdu/sadaqat.html
@ Long Live Aamir..
I don’t know where you brought the quotations from. But I can provide you with a very authentic verse of Holy Quran and you can easily assess your deeds to be showing you the committers of that sin.
Allah says in the Qur’an that Shirk is the greatest sin (Inna -al-shirka Zhulm al-azheem Quran 31:14).
Now a Hadith says that He who recited Kalama Tayebba is Muslim.i don’t know what your beliefs are about Jamaat Ahmadiyya but i can assure you that your big fame scholars such as Atta Ullah Shah Bukhari, Atta Ul Mohsin Shah Bukhari, Yousuf Ludhianwi, Manzoor Chinioti, Allah Yaar Arshad etc etc.. have been saying in public addresses that Ahmadis recite Kalama Tayebba but on their lips they say Muhammad and from their hearts they say Ghulam Ahmad(Nauz Billah min zalik wa Laanat Allahe Alal Kazibeen). Now that hopefully you belive that Zaat-e- Bari Talla is the only Zaat which is Aalim Ul ghaib wa al Shahdat. Allah knows every thing what is there inside the hearts of every person. I hope you belive this. If you believe this then i expect you to call your Ulama- Karam as Mushriks and Allah will forgive every thing apart from Shirk.
@Adnan Siddiqui
Before relating us to a British Umpire implanted Jamaat please watch this video in which Dr.Israr Ahmad has accepted that it was only Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani who defeated christian missioneries. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVOMV7vDFck&feature=related
If we were implanted by british umpire, we could never say any thing against christianity. The first thing which we talk about is the death of Jesus which is death of christianity. They have started accepting it now but you guys get offended as your beliefs seem to be exactly same as christian beliefs apart from the difference you call yourself muslim.
Well said Irfan Ahmed. Non-Ahmadis are left with no room except to put false blames on Jamaat Ahmadia. The ulemaas you mentioned say one thing more about the firqaas who don’t say Kalima correctly i.e. they say only La illaha Illah and change the next part. These ulemes say that they don’t have the name of Mohammad (PBUH) on lips but rather in heart. Or they add something but don’t mean it. I don’t want to pin point those firqaas b’coz everyone knows. What a shame on these so called ullemaas.
Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH) said that there will be a time when these Mullahs will be the worst creature on Earth. This Hadees was basically for these so-called Ullemaas.
Irfan they people have closed there eyes. They put blame on us that Jamaat Ahmadia is a production of British but they don’t know that we were who strongly opposed Christians beleives and when those Danish people published cartoons of Rasul-Allah (Nauzubillah) it was jamaat Ahmadia who strongly opposed them.
The truth is that whenever they put such blames on Jamaat Ahmadia, it gives me more courage to defend Allah’s Jamaat because Rasool Allah (SAW) and his sahaaba also defended Islam and ultimately Islam spread in this world. Now it’s our duty to defend Allah made Jamaat Ahmadia. For this we’ll definitely have to suffer alot. We’ll have to give our lives in the path of Islam as Ahmadi-Muslims are giving today. We have to go to jail in the punishment of saying or writing Kalima Tayyaba or saying Namaz or Azan.
We’ll have to do all this because it’s our test. The path of truth is never easy. But whoever seeks light and keep moving in right direction ultimately succeeds by the grace of Allah.
Just take a look at the ‘beautiful’ language and ideas of this “Messanger” of Allah being explained in his books:
“Crying in remembrance of Allah is just like ejaculation”(Braheen Ahmadiyya Vol.5 196)
“Going to Qadian has more reward than going for nafl Haj” (A’ina Kamalat Islam 352)
His views about Jesus: “The family of Jesus was perfectly holy and immaculate. Jesus’ three paternal and maternal grandmothers were fornicators and prostitutes, from whose blood the body of Jesus came into existence. May be it was a condition for divinity. His inclination for prostitutes and interaction with them might also be due to this ancestral relationship.” (Anjam-e-Atham 291)
His views about “non-believers”: “All Muslims who do not love Hazrat Sb writings are offsprings of prostitutes” (A’ina Kamalat Islam 547-548)
“Thank God the married woman is sent to arms of Hazrat Sb who refused to marry him” (Tadhkirah 249)
You can see more ‘jewels in the crown’ of Mr. Ghulam Ahmad at http://www.ahmadibeliefs.com
It is interesting to read this conversation and i can see the source of the extremist muslims lies in pakistan.
I am tempted to use the same language about muhammad as has been used for mirza. Given that I am not a muslim, i dont think any of you has the right to get offended as muhammad denied Lord Jesus as son of God which i feel is very offensive to my religion. LONG LIVE JESUS
@ So called Muslim
Laanat Allahe Alal Kazibeen.
Where did you read vol 5 of Braheen -e-Ahmadiyya? It might be written by some of your Mullas. This book has 4 volumes and can be found online at http://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/rk-1-1.pdf but i still doubt, it will open your eyes. now we come to second reference given by you from Aina kamalate Islam. the book can be found at http://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/rk-5-13.pdf
please read oage 352 and i would expect you to say Laanat allahe alal kazibeen.
(Anjam-e-Atham 291) can be found at http://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/rk-11-33.pdf and i would again expect you to say Laanat allahe alal kazibeen. may Allah open your eyes and let you throw away mullah’s glasses from your eyes(aameen)
Christopher (or Ahmedi in disguise)
As if you guys haven’t done this in the past or you don’t do it on regular basis. Get the hell out of here and go join your bro Daniel Pipes.
hello mr christofer wiether this is wrong or right in our religion to abuse others.but being an AHMADI MUSLIM i m sure that ur teachings abt HAZRAT JESUS(AS) r not right.ur HOLY BOOK is full of contradictions.pls dont thoink that we r disbelievers of HAZRAT JESUS(AS)
we believe that HE was a PROPHET of ALLAH the ALMIGHTY.and HE was just a human being like us.if u r interested in getting more information then i can send u.
and u can visit this site alislam.org for further info.
MAY ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY BLESS ALL OF US.AMEEN.
Ladz, i will take a strong exception if i hear anything against Lord Jesus or against my religion; do not think i have nothing to say, i have a lot of beans to spill if it came to that! trust me, i can thoroughly expose the righteousness of your “prophet”…… wanna try that!!!
@ Muslim
Dear I dont know where did you find Vol 5 of Braheen e Ahmadiyya as it has just 4 volumes. You can find them at http://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/rk-1-1.pdf
now A’ina Kamalat Islam 352, the book can be found at http://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/rk-5-13.pdf please read page 352 and i expect you to say Laanat Allahe alal kazibeen.
Anjame Aatham can be found at http://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/rk-11-33.pdf
please read page 291 and i would again expect you to say Laanat Allahe alal kazibeen.
If you have problem in opening these pages due to speed, i can post them to you. For God’s sake throw away the Mullas glasses to read the facts. Dont just quote what mulla published some where. This Mulla will not request God to pardon you. We all have to be answerable for our deeds. If you dont want to read these pages or if you read these pages, i would expect you to show some decency and not to quote such references again. May Allah Bless all the Muslims.
@Jesus
Ahmadis dont need to come in disguise. We come openely as truth never comes in disguise.
@Christopher
You can argue if you have the original version of Bible with you which states Jesus as son of God. Whatever is the conflict between Ahmadis and other Muslims, we all believe Jesus as a human and prophet of God and nothing more than that. this is not offending to your religion but your beliefs are offensive to the teachings of Prophet Jesus as He never claimed him to be the son of God. If you have any more queries please visit http://www.alislam.org/library/books/christianity_facts_to_fiction/index.html
Please spill the beans on Jews first who did not even believe Jesus as a Prophet.