Guest Post by Saira Ansari
I’m very disturbed, disappointed and sick to death to see the amount of facebook’ers on my list who think Musharraf’s leaving has been a catastrophe for Pakistan. Just because a new evil, a.k.a Zardari, is in the house does not mean that the previous evil is now a good man. A “leader” as some say. That’s our problem – as an entire nation. We forget and we repeat our mistakes over and over again.
People left right and centre have been levelling accusations at me, and countless others like myself, that we support Zardari. Unfortunately no one takes out 5 minutes to ask if that is so. Let me save you the time…we don’t. And no, he is NOT democratically elected. Hierarchic / Monarchic rule within the party does not ensure a democratic candidate, so stop ranting that its democracy that’s bad. We, the people, have been cheated again. The actual institution has been wronged.
I will get hate messages and mail after this because I get them often for my stance. Those who know me well know my passion for this country and its welfare so at least I can’t be labelled for propaganda as my other friends and colleagues are. But I must have my say – whether or not you bother to read the entire note.
It might seem like an attack on all you who support Musharraf, but unfortunately he was a friend of the wealthy and his circles included the elite and the ruling elite (I use the terms separately so that the few elite members in my list are spared the mercy of being called PML-Q-ians).
His ruling party looted and spent generously. The corruption meter Musharraf used himself to oust Nawaz Sharif has rated the corruption during his past 8 years government rule at least 20-40% more corrupt than that of Benazir or Nawaz Sharif…. and that is quite a task to achieve! Don’t believe me – do some research.
Of course all of you will lament his going. You thought he was fighting for the country, and the economy was oh-so-booming and justice was being handed out to all and sundry.
If you think this way then:
None of you had your father/brother/son/husband picked up by intelligence forces, sold to America and other countries for bounty money, threatened torture and death to you and your extended family for searching for your family member.- The worst insult – Musharraf announcing that all the missing persons had actually just run away from their homes and/or were jihadi terrorists. Yes Mr. Musharraf that’s a very smart thing to say – since it really worked for you to pull out a name from your list every time a suicide bombing happened.
- I have met the families of the missing persons in a very high level semi-secretive meeting arranged by HRCP and Amnesty, a couple of years back, and I met normal people with normal lives – just like yours and mine, but maybe a bit more harsher – suddenly flung into chaos.
- I met a 10 year old boy who was picked up alongside his father and uncle and saw his father being tortured. His father still isn’t back.
- I met the murdered journalist Hayat-ullah’s brother who had gone missing with his brother but had been released while his brother killed. The brother too was killed months after I met him.
- I met Amina Janjua and her daughter and other family members of prisoners who are rotting in Guantánamo.
- How is this the war on terror? It’s more like the war of terror. Why are we being auctioned to satiate an ever-hungry monster’s desire to colonize the world? (USA for those who didn’t get that)
- None of you care to find out what happened on May 12, 2007, when Karachi went under siege and people on all sides were senselessly killed, roads blocked, Edhi ambulances attacked and drivers killed – and NO action was taken. But dancing and celebrating the Punjab qabza group government continued in Islamabad.
- The Karachi bridge collapsing after that seemed trivial and really required no justice. Because a few poor people died and Pakistan can do without some more mouths to feed.
- All of you and your mothers/sisters/daughters/friends/wives have not been raped, or better yet gang-raped. Then you probably believe that rape is supposed to be silenced and that Mukhataran Mai case was “so over-done”. Musharraf was right when he had Mukhataran Mai put on the ECL (Exit Control List) so that the image of Pakistan would not be destroyed.
- And all of you at some time have visited countries abroad, or if you’re lucky like me, were probably born abroad so you don’t have to get raped to get an American visa. Musharraf seemed to think that’s why us ladies in Pakistan liked to get raped. Again you doubt me, check online for direct quotes.
You are also one of those people who’s countless acres of land were not snatched in Balochistan and Sindh and handed for a pittance to army officers who then minted a fortune in selling them later. That’s because you don’t live in Balochistan or NWFP and have your own little place in a Pakistani-suburbia.- You probably also think that Balochis are terrorists and should be tackled with the way they are for wanting to break Pakistan.
- In the past 8 years or so media coverage of Balochistan was banned. No one knew what was happening there because the General didn’t see it fit for you to know.
- So while they were being killed they had other trivial things to worry about too:
- No gas – because they provide all to you me and the rest of Pakistan
- No electricity – because why would tribals need it
- No CNG – because…they have cars?
- No roads – no CNG, no cars, why need roads?
- All the minerals, discovered and potential sites, being sold to the yens and the dollars and the pounds while they get nothing
- And the budget allocation – my God it has been an insult each time their share has been announced.
- But you say that it serves the tribal Sardars right. Because there are NO other regular people, middle class, students, poor, old, unwell people in Balochistan – only Sardars.
- Tell me – why was Pakistan made? Were we not all being denied our basic rights back then? The breaking up of a country to form our country is celebrated – yet when a province, hounded and ignored since Pakistan’s inception now demands their rights or separation you call them villains and terrorists. Damn hypocrisy I say.
- You agree the media has lost control and attacked Musharraf when it was he who “allowed” them to come.
- Again, my lovelies, the free media revolution had started in 1989 and most of these new channels came when the new satellite technology came. Not because they were always barred and Musharraf had an epiphany to allow them.
- It’s shameful how Daily Times Najam Sethi has sold his soul to the pimped out Governor Salman Taseer to keep his position. Why don’t you question his stand?
- And it’s time anyway to wake up and see what’s happening in ever corner of your country. This again does not mean I support substandard and/or yellow journalism
- And if you still think, like Musharraf did, that all the channels sucked and reported wrong information and deserved to be banned in November 2007, then can you please explain why BBC, CNN, Al-Jazeera and all other international news channels were also banned?
- MEDIA MUST BE FREE. Those who are not interested in changing the status quo of this country please change the damn channel to a cheap Indian soap opera which everyone seems to enjoy.
- You think that suspending the constitution was fine and it solved issues. I talk about a constitution, which is not just formed on a whim. It is a legislation almost sacred to a country. It is based on the universal declaration of human rights that are meant to apply to all and sundry; that ensures basic rights to speech, to thought, to movement, to association, to expression, to religion, to vote, to protest, to demand, to information. If the law guarantees you this security NO one should be allowed to manipulate it to say otherwise. No situation allows for the government to tell me to shut up and sit at home and not participate in democratic (or non-democratic as it might be) change. The government is my servant. It exists to take care of me and look after my country. I pay it to do so and it enjoys a very large amount of luxuries on this behalf alone.
You probably also felt that the activists, journalists, lawyers and students deserved to be beaten up, tortured and arrested. - Then Pakistan’s constitution should be “cleaned up” and our rights to protest, freedom of assembly, freedom of association, legal rights before detention and arrest should all be scrapped, because the General didn’t find them fit to implement.
- The emergency was declared to minimize violence, quote unquote. Read Washington post’s article, written by Musharraf himself. The comments on the article are deeply revealing. The suicide attacks still happened. During the emergency the violence against citizens was abominable. More than 5000 people jailed. I myself made a list of 1000 arrests for my work. People, civilians, activists, lawyers, students, little children beaten up like dogs. Is that security? Is that how you “control society”? By breaking their bones, ripping off their clothes and kicking them in the gut. I have names and pictures, arrested and manhandled. Honestly speaking the army, our protector ended up doing more damage to us than anyone else. The police had as usual jumped in to join the party. The fight for judiciary might have the face of Chaudry Iftikhar and you might not like him but the truth is that judiciary must be free and impartial. Arresting lawyers because “they could incite trouble” is about the biggest hogwash there is.
- You agree with military rule for the benefit of the nation. The army unrightfully so taxes us to our bones for “security reasons”, even gobbling up the share for education and development, yet Lal masjid brewed a few kilometres from the presidents’ house with mass ammunitions, ak 47s machine guns, grenades, gas masks…that too in the most heavily policed city in the country. Is that how the army protects us and itself.
- Sadly, because of Musharraf the armed forces really have suffered. And thousands of men, Jawans not Generals, who come from all corners of the country and bear freezing cold and scorching heat to sacrifice their lives for the love of their country, bear the brunt of their military leaders’ bad choices. The army’s job is to protect our borders and that’s what it should do. We received billions of dollars in aid to tackle terrorism. Not only did terrorism increase, but also there have been solid links of financial and logistical support found between the ISI and the terrorists. Who sold us to the Americans and allowed Boucher and Condoleeza to dictate terms? Where does the army get its funding/training/weapons/luxuries from? I’m sure you’ll like reading Dr. Ayesha Siddiqua’s book Military Inc. I enjoyed it and I haven’t found any quotes from the army denying it. Except for maybe banning the book because reading is so bad for Pakistanis. They’ll start to think.
- You say Shut up Saira – do you know what he did for our economy? Yes what did he do? Watching a show on TV last year about Pakistan’s “booming economy” I was surprised to hear a very Mary Antoinette-ish remark made by one of the young pro-government economists “so what if Punjab has a wheat crisis. They’ll get something else to eat”.
- The reason Pakistan’s GDP went up was because of two reasons – the banking sector and the telecommunication sector. The Pakistan banking sector has one of the worst interest rates in the world – how sweet is that since you and your daddies don’t really need to take out any loans – but many other’s do and the banking sector feeds of their carcasses. Nowhere else in the world would Citibank have been allowed to hound a person (and thousand others like him) till he committed suicide.
Coming to Citibank – don’t even bring me to Shaukat (Shortcut) Aziz. The man is undoubtedly smart and he could have done wonders for us – yet he too looted us and helped the ruling class mint some more. mint mint mint.- The Punjabi ruling class however was not content and sold and/or hoarded our flour and sugar, so that the hungry stomachs would dish out more when food was scarce.
- Don’t get me started on the chief justice case. You don’t like him because you think the lawyers brought anarchy to the streets. Well the Chief Justice really should have been kicked in the boot. After all he stopped Shaukat Aziz, Musharraf and all their cronies from extreme profiteering in the Steel mill case, and he asked about the missing persons – the damn missing persons. Oh and Suo Motu…he played with that little Latin term that the government came to associate as a swear word.
And FINALLY, all you people lamenting his exit and the arrival of the new vultures – it was Musharraf’s gift to us, the NRO, which legalised their return and it was Musharraf who pardoned all of Benazir’s, Zardari’s and the Sharif brothers’ cases so that he could get a safe exit in return– one tyrant to another. Mushie knows best.
I don’t even know where to stop. I talk from facts. Hundreds and thousands of files, numbers, cases, stats and complaints lying on my desk and those of my colleagues. Colleagues who got arrested for assembling at the office when the emergency was declared. Colleagues who passionately fight for people’s rights – the same rights that allow you and me the simple liberties we take for granted. We meet people who were abused by Musharraf, those who were abused before him and no doubt those who will be abused by the new monster that has narcissistically named itself the people’s government.
For god sakes wake up you slumbering fools. Musharraf’s exit does not have to mean the return of another evil period for us. Why cant we make it mean something more and bring in more educated people into the services and politics. Talk, speak out, and demand action and accountability so that these goons don’t get to loot us again. Lets not be quiet and say lawyers are liars and politicians are pansies. Maybe if we just worked just as hard as making things work as we do in criticising, things could get better. Start by doing your bit – bit by bit – and wait for the change to happen. Don’t sit and complain in your comfortable houses and cars. Don’t do that because it doesn’t help anyone.
Or just don’t damn well fornicate to produce a generation that will suffer at your expense.
Comments
338 responses to “Sick of Musharraf lovers – a factual rant”
enlighten your self by this open letter too
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/1558/an-open-le…
Regards
@Saira
Plz read
http://ejang.jang.com.pk/9-27-2010/pic.asp?picnam…
What you have to say about this ? Did Nawaz Shareef ever try to defend his attack on Supreme Court ? I accept his blenders, but at least the good thing about him is, he is accepting his mistakes and trying to defend his actions.
What Musharraf gets, if he is trying to become innocent in front of Dr Afia (Respected) family ? and telling them "Mein be gunah hon" ?
Very True Usman
He is a traitor and a Coward Military Rat General like all others…He should be hanged for his crimes against Pakistan
Regards
My First ever Reply to a blog/post – and trust me this is a masterpiece! I'll repeat over n over again " IM SICK OF Musharraf Lovers!"
God Bless Pakistan and keep it safe from such dogs.
Mir sahab!!
And I am sick of people who keep saying that they are sick of Musharraf lovers without giving up a legitimate reason ? like u do.
Sorry it was your first reply and I shouldn't reply like this but we have to be practical. We kicked Musharraf and we have a political setup on which no body trusts :D.
I know you won't agree wid me, I have been shouting since my first comment on this post (which is disappear now) that compare the guys we have in our political setup all togather (not only current one) and you will find that Musharraf is only who is not curropted, not having any foreign account, no property (sara-e-mehal) outside the country blah blah blah.
Musharraf brought back Zardari and company with NRO. This is biggest reason that we don't want him back. And if he did it because of Uncle Sam then we don't want him even more. And lets face if he must be like 75 years or so. He will be needing a lot Viagras now.
Agha Usman,
Musharaf surely doesn't have any Foreign accounts, NOT any that we know of. And just to add a bit to your limited knowledge, he has mansions in London and Dubai. Now the question is, how does he manage it there since the president ship is gone? Foreign accounts? That's what I thought.
A masterpiece and slap on Musharraf lovers
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/1885/go-musharr…
Theses things are still happening how many missing people have been released, still we are american slave selling ppl to em, Riots in Balochistan are still going on, PMLQ is not the only party with elites, PMLN & PPP also have lots of elts more than PMLQ. Musharraf was not elected nor zardari was elected after Benazir's death, why they didn't elected next leader instead of making his son a leader is it democracy?
Salam, Sir i got ur point. but the article never said that, PMLN & PPPP r any different from musharraf?? But the article says that we should not repeat our mistakes.
If these are just allegations, I ask all of Musharraf's admirers to ask him to come to Pakistan and face all these SO called allegations like a real man but I seriously doubt that will EVER happen. Cuz the man is a cheat and a coward.
Oh my God. I love you soo much for this article. Jazak Allah khair
Dear miss saira bano…..i dont know u, But today i know that there r people like me, or infact better than me…. Yes, u r my hero from now on. Believe me, i will never forget ur name in my prayers….ever. May ALLAH bless u and give just a little 'aqal' to all musharraf lovers….
Sick of supporters? What part of Pakistan do you live in? Why do you have to be so oblivious to everything around you? Criticizing is probably the easiest way to squeeze out of a situation which you've done perfectly!
Democracy is what YOU had asked for, you got it … look what all it brought with it … Open your eyes, what options do you actually have if not support someone who atleast didn't turn this land into a freaking jungle in 9 years time!
you say musharraf's friends were the elite … Name one leader in today's time who is not friends with the elite of that nation? Where do you live? Musharraf needs to provide explanations for Bugti and Lal Masjid? I can't believe you don't write anything about how Bugti was trying to create a state within a state … I don't see you criticizing him on firing rockets and disrupting national assets! I don't see you criticizing the administrators of Lal Masjid on trying to go against the state!
Please! Open your eyes … if Musharraf is not the answer, he's atleast better than the lot YOU elected DEMOCRATICALLY!
Look around you, "think-out-of-the-box" … Do WE actually need ILLITERATE democratically elected "DUMB" leaders?!?
Let's stop whining for once and let's just try to turn things around …
again hogwash democracy doesnt really work. Your missing the point. Why should we as a nation settle for the lesser evil everytime, because heres the kicker.
when you let the lesser evil grow it replaces the older one. Its an infinite regress weve been bouncing along for 20 years now.
Perhaps the country isnt quite ready for genuine democracy and maybe it isnt. No system is flawless but that is a seperate debate.
The fact of the matter is Musharraf's slate is just as messy as everyone elses and even if you argue it isnt as bad it still doesnt change the fact that its bad.
You do not go around bullying constitutions ala yeltsin and get away with it.
And i can't help stop laughing when "literate" individuals like yourself actually claim that pakistani's were SOLD to the US in the last regime! 🙂
They weren't … not one pakistani was sold (Do your homework)!
And as far as the security forces picking up people is concerned, you've mentioned you met families who were perfectly normal … I, on the other hand, have met families who lost members too, but they weren't "NORMAL" … What side does the "see-saw" tilt to now? We can sit here and rant about things all day long …
And please … do your homework again … 2004, Pakistan was termed as a role model economy for the entire world … look it up on google … see blogs … our interest rates are NOW the worst in the world, they weren't earlier …
In your last para you ask us not to complain sitting on our sofa's … you ask us to work hard … from where i look at it, I see you whining … I see you complaining … I can say for sure, if i was to ask you to jot down "negative" points of every government, you could do that too … you'd probably declare everyone unfit to govern us … All i'm saying is that Musharraf's probably our best chance now because we're not going to get another leader from within the ranks and God for sure isn't going to come down to set things straight for us!
Mr. Mahboob, please for God sake stop being myopic. The article narrates all the ills that musharraf government left as a legacy and you are saying he is the best bet. A 'leader' who messed up so bad that we have lost our dignity in front of the global crowd now apologises and say that he wants to do good is all too political and never sincere. Mark my words.
The role model economy you are referring to … lol … ever heard of the strategy, "It is more important to be attractive than to be right". If not, try to understand it to the roots my brother. You will get the answer.
And if you really want to be positive … Scratch out the past and the puppets and the tried ones … think new, think beyond !
I agree with every single damn fact and I really appreciate your efforts to enlighten the hearts of Paki people. This is the time to revive and bring change and revolution.
Amazing article! mush lovers disgust me!
I just know one thing, Mr. Zardari will run away from Pakistan as soon as his leadership ends 😛 .. he don't wanna get all caught up by the NRO 😛
Hello world, Mushraf is inevitable, he is invincible 😉
Thats why the Bastard and coward is hiding in exile and launching his party from UK, rather than Pakistan
He is a third rate coward Military dictator who won't dare coming back
Wanna bet a million rupees on this
i have got one tiny question to all of musharraf haters, please give me one name you deem fit to be the so called “LEADER” of the state? and pls spare yourslef and do not mention imran khan .. he can not win from his own area yet alone win nationwide
U named him urself……Imran Khan………..u lame bastard…………and since when did pakistanis started to elect worthy people like IK?
@ saira
Jaisay log waisay hukumraan.
Its about time , we start changing ourselves rather than criticizing these popular gamblers like the 90 odd channels on TV do all day ,everyone knows about them. Its time you me and each and everyone try themselves to be better pakistani it can range from giving bribes to violating traffic signals. To blame these political figures is secondary primary targets should be ourselves as even one of us given so much authority and relentless power there is every chance that the person would do if not same but quite like what they do because we as a nation are corrupt.
@abdullah n bhai … agreed 100% true.
C'mon Saira, I have seen a lot of people like you crying about Musharraf and Zardari and all that, what you guys do is just criticize thats it!!! You're not supporting anyone neither giving a solution. Which makes me conclude that this article is quite useless. Its utter rubbish, ranting and crying all the time instead giving solutions
I think Musharaff is a traitor who sold his country. PPP, PML-N, and New All Pakistan Muslim League, they all have members from the elite and will never do good for the country. Pakistan Needs revolution
that is what i was pointing to, the problem however is that revolution is epidemic.. you need to revolutionize yourself first as an individual and than the entire nation … Sir Syed started the journey alone, the fruit of it came years later with Quaid-e-Azam and other heroes!
I'm tired of the sarcasm that keeps spewing from journalists and self-asserted 'journaloggers' who cannot provide a speck of constructive criticism or ways to alleviate the issues that plague our society. The easy way out is criticism. It is much harder to do something about it.
well this is what we all know, tell us something that we dont know about Musharaf…..m not pro-musharaf not against him….n dear lemme tell u 1 more thing whenever write truth, write it whole becoz that makes sense….analyze the whole history and tell us that what led to these actions by govt….a pre-trapped country's General can do more than it or not…..we dont want facts, we know em, we want truth n if u can seek it than tell the complete story…dat ll be better…I THINK U MUST ACKNOWLEDGE IT!
i agree to Ali Abbas
I wish I could have write this article then I must have use some hard tone while she gives the less of that. A very nice article and like the voice of my heart.
General Ayub khan left us with General Yahya khan saying Ab sab log Ayub Kuttae ko yaad karain gae and the same did by Musharaf when he left us with the Zardari and Co.
This is democracy which is basically misused by the present government. We people didnt select them not any1 of them coz only 25% or so gave votes in the last election and thats what our mistake lies.
Also one more thing that writer wrote that Present government is bad doesn't mean that you choose the last bad guy. Choosing between the two bad is too bad.
This situation requires people support who are sick and tired of the inflation, corruption, terrorism, etc but they have fear of God knows what that they didnt come to make it happen, The Inqalaab.
Haven't you see the power of a normal guy lives in Pakistan when he wants to move and join shoulder to shoulder with many of people like him and asked government to restore the Cheif Justice and others because he thinks that Chief Justice is a right guy and he do the justice which Mushi and Co. doesnt like. Haven't you see that power??? You will soon see it again when lots and lots of people come on the road and go to the homes and shelters of the corrupt politicians and bring them on roads and do the justice openly.
Dont let yourself burned in the heat and if you are a Pakistani then stand up and raise your voice against this corrupt system.
INQALAAB ZINDABAD———–PAKISTAN PAINDABAD
no one said musharraf is a hero. he is the lesser of two evils. your rant, while accurate in the most part, is completely pointless and irrelevant. itd be different if the ppp had succeeded in fixing even half of the problems you point out. instead they have compounded and added to them. they were elected riding a wave of pro democratic sentiment, for which benazir had become an icon, not on any real merits of their own. Once here, they failed even to provide what had been their trump card, democracy. instead they unashamedly continue the monarchic line of benazir, exploiting the legacy of the original bhuttos popularity. So f*ck democracy and f*ck you too. F*ck your elitist notions and generalised deprecation of the people. You manufacture thoughts to put into the head your retarded stereotype of the average Pakistani, who is of course infinitely inferior to you. "Oh i live in Karachi and i think Balochis are Sardars, of course if i had moved out of Pakistan i would understand it better." Where are your solutions? Well hey i dont agree with Musharraf but thats ok because i dont like Zardari either. Well who the f*ck WOULD you vote for? "My colleagues and i fight passionately for pathetic retards like you cos im wonderwoman in a green and white bra!" spare me. i dont need the f*cking justice league. what i DO need is financially redistributive socialism, the creation and perpetuation of a middle class as much from the uplifting of the lower class as from the reasonable taxation of the oppressive upper class, leading to an egalitarian economy where the relatively poor can pull their own weight and the relatively rich afulfill their obligations to society. i need this whether it flows from dictatorship or from democracy. authoriatarianism is infinitely better than incompetence.
NRO gave a chance to all political parties to participate and start from a clean slate. The people elected the current government. The free meda was not free and pushed for who paid it.
There isn't enough gas in Baluchistan to support all of Pakistan so no use ranting on that. Too expensive to drill for what is there because of the geology small individual deposits.
Saira, I 100% agree with you, I too am sick of these silly people. I now also realize that it's not Musharraf or Altaf Hussain or other such Traitors who are at fault.
Who is actually at fault is our nation, we ourselves. Because we have chosen to shut down our minds and eyes and not be involved into any kind of logical thinking process. We as a nation specially our youth, have chosen to be led like sheep and thus we give Musharraf, Altaf Hussain and such traitors of the nation an opportunity to lead us like sheep.
I am deeply aggravated with this situation. Most people don't have any logical reasoning for fanning Musharraf and other traitors of the soil and yet they like such people on vague standards like ability to humiliate journalists, ability to speak boldy (without considering what is the CONTENT of what they're speaking and whether what they speak is even TRUE or NOT.
With a deeply grieved heart, I can only say at this moment … God Bless our Nation !!! God Bless our Nation !!! and give it the ability to make RIGHT CHOICES and set the RIGHT IDEALS …
I also made a video for the MUSHARRAF fans specially so that they can actually know what are STANDARDS against which, a leader must be evaluated..
Here's the link:
This is how a Great Leader Speaks
Two wrongs don't make one right. I see a lot of people justifying Musharaf's return by a lack of leadership in the country? I don't think the author ever defended the current government and therefore, suggesting that it was okay for Mush to have relations with the elite just because the current govt. has relations with the elite is, sadly, stupid.
Army stays in the barracks. The punishment for army men meddling in govt through a coup or whatever, is, death. Sadly, we can not have a democracy until the judiciary is free because it can then ensure that the actual 'leaders' come up the ranks and the President of the country does not rule the country just because his wife was an ex-PM of the country. I mean, what sort of a qualification is that? He should sell theatre tickets like he used to.
Well written article. Couple of exxagerated points but I might be wrong. Things are not as bad as they seem, they are worse.
General (r) Syed Pervez Musharraf shamelessly victimized the “Sons of Soil” (Pakistani Sindhis) on the basis of racial discrimination for continuous 09 years so much so not a single mega development project was launched in Sindh to benefit them direct. Such people should have been behind the bars. I am sorry a “small gang of people” is supporting this racist and chauvinist ex-President who not only insulted the chief justice of supreme court of Pakistan (SCoP) but also put about 40 judges of apex court along with their families in detention for long time. He violated the Constitution repeatedly.
He was such a corrupt person who sold Pakistan Stell Mills in only Rs 21 billion – the same amount the Mills was erected by Shaheed Z A Bhutto. For this purpose, he changed the portfolio of his crony minister Hamayun Akhtar and made him Incharge for one day only who approved the sale of Stell Mills along with land worth Rs 240 billion.
In Sindh, he appointed two chief ministers – one after another. First chief minister was “gay” whereas another chief minister Dr Arbab Rahim was a person who lacked manners, ettiquestes and wisdom as he was “Bhhangi” (sweeper) CM. All was done to insult Pakistani Sindhis.
The NFC Award which he gave, Sindh suffered Rs 70 billion (Rs 14 billion per year) as pointed out by MQM senior minister Syed Sardar Ahmed and his statement was printed in Dawn.
Racist Musharraf repeated his claim that “He was Sindhi” and that was not less than fraud. Such people should have been tried by UN Commission working against Apartheid for observing racial discrimination against “Sons of Soil” (Pakistani Sindhis).
Musharraf had claimed Sindhis are not capable to be appointed as federal secretary (despite Sindhis became Presidents, Prime Ministers, chief justices of supreme court of Pakistan etc.,)
Musharraf did not appoint Sindhis on higher post during his tenure due to his hatred. Nevertheless, he tried to get “political benefit” by appointing Ms Shamshad as Governor State Bank as she born in Sindh and had no further association with Sindh.
The people of Pakistan are unable to understand why he has not joined MQM for which he worked for the last many years even when he was in Army. Ms Benazir Bhutto in her book “Daughter of the East” (Revised edition) had mentioned she wanted to appoint General Musharraf as her Military Secretary as such case came to her table for approval but Agencies reported he had links with an ethnic group (obviously MQM) of Karachi.
General (r) Musharraf must be tried for violating the Constitution under Article 6, in the interest of the country.
I welcome his joining in politics and advise him to come to Pakistan and contest election to know his “popularity” among masses.
Yes he is wrong but he accept all that he done before & he excuse for that aur kia abhi wala politician bohot pak han aur han kia democracy sa ghareeb ka pait bhar jae ga???bohot sawalat han socho har zaveya sa…
Everyone, we are wasting our time discussing Musharraf here. If you are talking about INQUILAB then bring it bhai … sun sun ker kaan pak gai hein.
I don't understand why this media is shouting on Musharraf. To my knowledge he is the same guy who brought all these channel and give proper independence to the media (bear the fact of emergency). Later on, if he force to shut down some media channels for some months … whats bad in that. Common you are there because of him.
Kia chakkar hai samajh sey bahar hai. Anyway, this discussion seems quit useless, that is why I am unsubscribing from this thread.
Bye
This is really sad that we keep on supporting ppl who hv done wrong to Pakistan just like mr. usman is doing here. give loadz of appreciaton to musharraf but can u justify his one act of NRO? just becuz some of ur immediate family member or relative has been advantaged in it or by sheer luck none of them is effected by outcome or bad effects of it, u raise in glory of that person wh ran away as a result of "deal" i really wonder how they can be of any good for the country when the only thing they thin about is THEIR OWN SELVES whn some catastrophe rrives.
Its very obvious that all our politicians care less about the nation and more about themselves. Here's the thing though, there is a lot that goes on than what we see on the news channels. I can't stand it when people blame Musharraf for dragging us into the war on terror. Sorry to burst your bubble, but we didn't really have alot of options. And obviously when you do have to become "friends" with someone (namely a country called USA) then obviously you have to return the favour they do for you by giving u billions of dollars.
The thing with Musharraf though was that when US pushed him to do something he would only take a step closer to it. With Mr. Z all they have to do is "SHOW HIM THE MONEY".
Yes I do understand that alot of things went wrong towards the last 2 years of his rule but have we forgotten the first few years. Who can say that Pakistan didn't develop?
Let's face reality, there is absolutely no chance that we're going to see a new face in politics anytime soon. Frankly because no sane and honest person wants to go into politics. And ofcourse theres the course of the educated class never casting votes. Sorry to say but as of now we're stuck between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea. And frankly speaking Id choose the Deep Blue Sea (Musharraf). Atleast he wont take 230 people and his children on his foreign visits. Corruption exists everywhere, its just a matter of choosing the less corrupt person.
And lastly, even though I do believe that Dr. Aafia is most likely innocent, we don't know the whole picture.
After reading your article, I conclude that you are a sick person and need to visit the doctor. Do not bother writing its not for you as you lack knowledge, perspective etc…
then please do suggest that who should be the next leader for Pakistan … now who shall be given chance to take part in the corruption ….. any name ????????? who is much much better than Musharaf …… or shall we start a new league and we vote Ms. Saira Ansari ????????
pessimist……nd a fooooooool all in all……please do Pakistan a favour n get admitted to the nearest psyche hospital……(i wonder whether they admit a psychopath like u)…….
ok so going through the last few comments made by Musharraf's supporters I do kind of agree with you on the fact that most of his supporters can't back up their support for him. But I too am one of his supporters and I'd like to add on the comments I have already made a couple of days back.
Regarding DEMOCRACY, don't forget that Musharraf was the one who from day 1 wanted to bring democracy to Pakistan. And I think he has largely succeeded (atleast more so than the others). The PML-Q govt was the first one to actually see through the whole term.
With regards to the NRO, I do believe that was a very foolish thing. But again that came along with the "friendship" we had promised to the USA.
As for the judges, can you honestly say that CH. Iftikhar was fighting for the people of Pakistan? No. He, like everyone else, was fighting for power. He is largely held responsible by many for the incidents that took place in Karachi on 12th of May. Although I do believe in an independent judiciary I do not think his main aim was to establish one. It was just a good reason to give to the people and gather their support.
And why, again, are we treating Bugti as a victim rather than a nuisance? Wasn't he responsible for disrupting Sui Gas operations? As for ignoring Balochistan, there has been no government thus far that has given go-ahead to so many projects for the development of Balochistan than Musharraf.
And as for the Lal Masjid case. Nobody seems to know how and why they were able to get so much ammunition in there but there was no other option left than an attack. The first shot was fired at the army from their side and even after that Musharraf was adamant to resolve the situation peacefully. At his press conference at the NDC in Islamabad several jouranlists asked him why he was refusing to take military action and he replied saying "abhi aap mujh se pooch rahe hain k kyun military action nahi liya ja raha. agar mein abhi le chuka hota tou aap poochte military action kyun liya." He tried his best to resolve the situation peacefully before opting for a military attack.
That said, Yes we did suffer alot during the last 2 years of his tenure. He did make some bad decisions. But look at it from another angle. Were those situations his fault? Was it his fault that we got caught in between the War on Terror? Was it his fault that he had to follow the orders coming from Washington?
and lastly I would like to ask you, do you think that there is anyone who could have handled the situation in a better manner? I think it became a question of choosing an option that would bring the least harm. There was never a "safe" option.
Unlike the rest of these supporters, Ms. Saira Ansari, I would love to sit down with you some day and talk about Mr. Musharraf's achievements and flaws 🙂
I think people are just jealous of Musharaff because he supports all elite leaders and he is also one of them and he doesnt care about poor people dieing, come on lets face it now we have to make Pakistan's image as a rich country instead of showing all the poor helpless people dieing 24/7 .
Its about time and only musharaff being the great elite group leader can do it sophisticatedly. We are still way back thinking and crying over the old poor dead ones. Dr afia is also one of them, lets get over her case now, everyday women die like this nobody gets media attention on it, why making her so special? It was her faith, maybe Allah has written that for her. Anyway now you all can hate me for writing all this but i was just opening your eyes from the bitter unacceptable side, its a short life enjoy and get away with it people.
Dr.Afia had an American Passport. Pakistan could not do anything even if it wanted to. You can't get involved in matters of other country's citizen. American's are not allowed to hold more then one nationality. She must have given up her Pakistan passport for US one. I do disagree with the punishment she has been given and i also believe that US judiciary has been discriminative and racist towards her.
EXTREME BULLSHIT ! MUSHARRAF ROCKS ! NAWAZ SHARIF ROCKS ! IMRAN KHAN ROCKS ! ALTAF HUSSAIN ROCKS ! TALIBAN ROCKS ! USA ROCKS ! ZARDARI ROCKS ! PAGARA ROCKS ! MOLVIS ROCKS ! every single corrupt person who you 17 million critisize at ROCKS !!! You guys are a sorry nation who has nothing better to do then to BULLSHIT at forums and blogs, No matter how much you self respect you have in your mind for yourself, but you are not worth anything more thn a napkin that is to be used and wasted. I pity my nation because fortunately I do have a nation that has all the resources a nation cld want to be a STAR but UNFORTUNATELY all we got are lousy 17 million "divided" cry babies who are good for nothing ! GOOD ! WE ALL DESERVE THIS ! INFACT WORST !!! 😀
LONG LIVE MUSHARRAF!!
Long live Musharraf!!!. I dont give a damn about what musharraf had done wrong.. Akbar bugti was a lanat on pakistan and good that he's dead.. Akbar bugti had no right to bomb sui that delivered gas to whole of pakistan. he was just another triblal freak whose fathers were given some authority by the british to keep them silent. He had no right to decide for Pakistan. Dr.Abdul Qadir as much a hero he is, he gave Pakistan a bad name. He left pakistan in a very difficult position and he should appreciate that he was not handed over to US for his actions. He owes it to musharraf. All these idiots think that Pakistan owes them something. Our Chief justice will be honoured to know that he is one of top ten useless monkey crap in my opinion. He done nothing good for the country. He lets his lawyers who supported him at the time of the marches, to rape and kill a christian girl. All such people think in their own interest and when one guy shows some stick, the public has a problem. I want my country to prosper and be respect and able to defende itself from anyone in the world and by pointing fingers and declaring people kafir etc does no help. Pakistan FIRST and all you losers after. Infact, at the very last in a que.
Rizwan,
Dr. AQ Khan gave Pakistan a bad name? where are you from India?
Had Musharraf given DR.AQ Khan to America, Musharraf and his clan of thugs would be tried in Hague. Do you think (if) AQ Khan sold the recipes to Iran and N. Korea, he did it on his own and that some pimps in GHQ didn't make money out of that?
Then only reason Dr. AQ Khan was not handed over was to save some asses in GHQ.
Last question: Chotiaa hain yaa tumhain chorr gaey?
Long Live Musharraf!!
If you are sick.. get some treatment and do not shout. I haven't read your article..coz from Title we can understand that someone brainless is spitting out shit out of his mouth.
Go productive!
lpc
Bless
You need to learn a lot. This write up shows nothing but your incompetence towards facts and figures…
The terrorist in Lal Masjid shouldn have been nuked on day one – atleast we could have saved the life of soldiers who died in that operation.
Dr Aafia – she is a US citizen, they can do whatever they like with her. Bringing her back would not change anything for the masses. She is where is she because of her own actions..
Chief Justice – Lawyer movement was funded by Nawaz Sharif – there is ample proof of this. Under his blind eye the sialkot brothers case is being neglected, forget about everything else
About free media – just speak with Hamid Mir and Kamran Khan and ask them about when did media really got freedom and also if they were not picked up by Sharif government because of their reports….
Saira Bibi – instead of having this debate here lets have a live video conference and I will personally put your mind to rest about every allegation you have placed here.
Its a challenge – you decide the time and the date 🙂
I will be waiting
I'm not surprised at the person who wrote the article. Another one of those couch whiners, democracy chanters and ignorant fools who possess absolutely no substance in what they say.
You find these trolls everywhere, I suggest everyone just ignore this completely futile piece of crap and move on. Musharraf made mistakes everyone does but point remains, he was still better than whole of PPP which has clearly proven out to be the worst political government ever elected. Not to mention their ever growing list of endless corruption charades.
Whoever this girl/woman is, she just proves her incompetence on the subject enough for anyone sensible enough to say she's not worth a read even.
Saira Darling,
Hope you are not getting paid for this copy and paste !
if you are ………!
Sweetie Its a day light robbery…..
Or your employers have a dark agenda …………..|!!!!!!
Shakeel,
You have been watching too much of Zaid Hamid Kezzab, your brain is getting drained.
Kahan gaya woh bharwa, "akhree mukkey wala".
I hope some day he is served justice and hanged by Liaqatabad 10number for commiting coupe against an elected Govt.
This bastard does not have balls to come back to his own country. He is begging his sponsors to support him but guess what he is not in uniform, without which no-one would even bother to buy bengans from him, let alone elect him for a councillors seat in a local body.
wo sab bhen chod hain jo musharraf k khilaf hain. maa lun k bacho, tum logo ko kaya pata Mr. Musharraf sab k time pe kitni taraqqi ho rai thi. . maa lanno. zara economic survery (2009-2010) parh k daikho, figures check karo. . . bhen chodo zardari aur is k doston’ ne Pakistan ko 50 years peechay kar dia hai.
wow u must really hate musharaf that u rambled on n on abt the things u think or should i say percieve Mr musharaf did wrong.i will just cite few examples where u r wrong lady.mukhtaran mai wasnt raped as she claims n anyone living in this country knows that,i m asuming u live here n yet u distrot facts,she was married to the man,she didnt want to marry n after spending a week or so with him she went to the nearst thana n claimed she was raped,now she is married n living happily with the man she loves n enjoying a celebrity status.dont get me started pn afis darama siddiqi bcoz if u are not aware of her life n her activities its ur fault,n plz stop calling her a paki she is not she holds a green card,where is amina janjuha by the way,this missing person campain was started by her or was it just a campiang against musharaf?she doesnt miss her husband now,coz i dont c her doing any protests n press conferences?chief justice iftikhar chudary is second cousin to rana sanahullha,politcally motivated by nawaz sharif,current panel of supreme court judges have taken plots from govt,including honorable ramaday who has infact taken two plots,should i ramble on like u?or r these facts enough for u?plz b tolerent in ur political views,ok i may not like Mr xyz or u may like Mr abc,but that doesnt mean that ur going to use media space by giving ur personal opinion.
100 % agreed
I ASK YOU ALL WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE WASTING YOUR TIME ON SUCH A SITE I REQUEST YOU ALL TO BE PRACTICAL AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY OTHER THAN COMMENTING.
WHO CARES IF MUSHARRAF IS CORRUPT OR NOT JUST PLAY YOUR ROLE IN WHAT IS RIGHT
I just scan your blog as i support musharraf's good deeds. What he did wrong, is much lesser than as compared to Bibi's name enchashers. We must have heard the term "THE NECESSARY EVIL". Musharraff was the necessary evil, If he fucked a proportion of Pakistanis due to his america-nawazi, then u must know democracy is not for Pakistan. Democracy is ideal for people who are educated, literate, sensible, who care for their decisions, who have power to ask their representatives, have power to throw them out of power if they show non competency.
Unfortunately, due to our own elected leaders and dictators (lets count musshi too :D) they are still illiterate, fucked up shits, who don't think who they are electing, infact you must agree that most of the votes are casted by force, by fake hands. You can't deny if you take part in elections (via voting ofcourse, coz to contest elecction, u need to be superior). I gave my vote to mqm, not because of Their beloved Qaid (Bhai,,,LOL) but because of Mustafa kamal. He did his work. Lets assume that he also misappropriated funds in millions, still he is more valuable than any other bullshit crap. Pakistan need only such guys, whether he is mustafa, he is mushhi nawaz of zardari. Acha kaam karo gay to acha naam he ho ga.
can u even think that a person who is supporting his 7 digit family members, earning less than $3 per day (yeah, its exaggerated!) can think about Pakistan, can elect a right man to take care for their interests??? that will be a joke. Joke with Pakistan. You guys need A leader, a strict leader who will fuck every one who comes on his way to the mediation of Pakistani society, Just eliminate that obstacle in his way. We are immensely divided that things like MEESAQ-E-PAKISTAN can't simply work. This is the high time for some revolutionary activity. I rarely comment on blogs like yours, coz i know we people are born to be fucked by rulers like current. We are born to be fucked! Afsoos hai is qom pe, is k leaders pe, jo her waqt beron-e-mulq k doray kartay hain, Pakistan jalta hai, wo bahar hotay hain, kiya mazaq hai yaar, phir hum english mein apnay falsafy blogs pe jhartay hain, Bhai, leaders don;t read blogs, leaders don't read newspapers, leader don't watch news on tv, leaders do what they want, n we know what they want….
and specifically about our Ms afia siddiqui,, have u ever think that She is just an issue for Pakistanis created by the secret friend,, sorry,,, i must say secret hand… too play with us. The great America, who manages countries' policies, politics, defense blah blah, is so weak that it can't simply vanish that poor lady??? Yes they can kill her silently before that issue was brought in limelight by our DEAR MEDIA (considered as friends by majority of Pakistanis, especially JEW Geo LOL!) You people need to understand that they simply create an issue, Pakis got hurt, so they hurt each other by torching others' belongings, by massacring in the name of ethnic differences. You just name it, n we have an issue. We r divided Pakis, so ANGRAIZ is keep us dividng. Good bye, God Bless Pakistan (Aameen)