To Shave or Not to Shave, that is the Question

An event was to be held on the 30th of March 2010 at Hall 6 of Expo Center Karachi, to break India’s world record of most people shaving at the same time. The event was being sponsored by Gillette, a reputed shaving company, the event was advertised well & over 2000 people showed up at the venue on their own free will, voluntarily, to be part of the smooth shavng spree.

The Organizing committee started receiving threats a couple of days leading to the event by Maulana Fazl ur Rehman & his cronies who called upon them to shutdown or face the consequences. The Maulana is said to have threatened to send a truck load of Madaressah boys to take care of the world record attempt. The organizers contacted Rangers for security and support who declined to help because they could only be deployed at the request of governmental approval, in turn the organizers resorted to coordinating their security cordon with the local police station who promised support

The Bomb disposal squad checked and cleared the premises before noon. Entrance to the Expo center for the participants volunteers was on high protocol clearance and each person was carefully frisked and walked through metal detectors. After which each volunteer was registered at the reception desk and provided with a shaving kit

The police on the other hand cautioned each person to go at his own risk as there was a threat of bomb. Despite all the negativity there were over 2000 men and boys gathered up until the 2pm start time. Most of the protesters were gathering outside the premises at the main metal immediately after the afternoon prayers & started chanting slogans & religious rhetorical to dissuade people from going in .

Seeing their efforts to going in vain as most people walked past them into the expo center, they then sent around 200 of their own guys to mingle with the ‘normal’ crowd. The lunch was serve to all the participants, After devouring the free lunch, the two hundred or so antagonists started moving towards washrooms, looking at the sudden mass movement going in one direction the volunteers tried to redirect the crowd and requested them to be seated.

Suddenly slogan chanting started with sounds of ‘Allah ho Akbar’ resonating through the halls combined with a shower of 500ml water bottles being thrown at the people present, these bottles which were provided for lunch and were now being used as weapons packed quite a lethal punch hitting participants on their faces & seriously injuring quite a few – total panic.

After creating total chaos these gangs of pseudo mullahs started moving out but a few brave volunteers choose to stop them and in turn asked for police assistance. The police in turn reportedly asked a bribe of 5 million rupees which clearly turned out to be a deal breaker and not provided.

The arsonists turned even more violent after seeing their exit being blocked and started breaking the window panes and wielded those pieces of broken glass as weapons, in response the brave volunteers backed off letting the enraged crowd out of the premises

Still to this point, after the hoodlums tried to terrorize & in their attempt to crash the event the participants (2000 plus youth ) were still wanting to go ahead with their attempt at the world record, returned but to their dismay the Hall Lights were turned off by the Expo Center authorities which was indeed the final straw & everybody started moving out. Seeing this the volunteers in their last ditch attempt went ahead of the crowd trying to plead them back in. But by then the Expo Center authorities had literally packed up and refused to allow the event to proceed as they had received enough threats to now not permit the event at all

The Islamic Soldiers then came in with there own cameras, surveyed & recorded their victorious mess and called it a day. The police were later found to be scavenging the lunch boxes when sponsors & organizers came to take their unused stuff.

It was a sad representation on the preachings of Islam, peace and tolerance were superseded by hooliganism, anger and violence

The thing to be noted here that Major news channels (AAJ, Express & Dawn news) mobiles were standing outside for coverage & no one dared show this incident apart from a short 10-second clip by Dawn TV. While The News crew were seen sitting inside having refreshments catered to by the event organizers



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173 responses to “To Shave or Not to Shave, that is the Question”

  1. imran Avatar

    I generally tend not to agree with Mullahs, and not very religious person myself, however what's the point of such an event in a country where Muslims are in predominant majority. And How would it help the masses.? i meant setting this world record had not helped anyone except the Gillette, and even if it had happened it's not something that a common Pakistani would have taken pride in.

    1. Abdullah Avatar

      I totally agree with you Imran, why held such an event in a country where majority of people is inclined towards Islam?

      I am not affiliated with any religious or political party, but I think its a pathetic idea to gather on a place to break the shariat of Allah (S.W.T). All the Prophets including Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W) kept the beard.

      What if Victoria's Secret tomorrow make a plan to make/break World Record by making ladies change their panties in public?

      I am sure Gillette could have easily broken the World Record had they chosen any country other than Pakistan, but their aim is to create (more) chaos in country and fill the hatred between people.

  2. Nadir El Edroos Avatar
    Nadir El Edroos

    regardless of the event itself, the power that certain mullahs and respected maulanas have in stirring up hostility and bringing youths on to the streets does little service to Islam. Rather it perpetuates a stereotype. I mean i have little or no opinion on Gillete and the event itself, however, we are effectively giving up what we can and cannot do to the whims of a small group of people who think that they are wiser and know whats good for us not only in this life but in the after life as well!

    1. junaid Avatar

      Nadir El Edroos,

      Mullahs and/or Maulans do not have any power in Pakistani Politics. When they call for a strike, their call does not matter to most of the civilians.

      Where as on the other hand, a call for strike by liberal facists like MQM, Jeay Sindh, PPP halts the life in Karachi.

      So don't loose your sleep if these people have gathered to demonstrate for their opinion.

      On the other hand, liberal facists are on a killing spree in Karachi. Just in a few days they have killed many of the Muslims in Karachi.

      I'm sure if a NON-MUSLIM had been killed by assailants there would have been a huge cry from our liberal facists.

  3. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Why don't return the all the Defence Equipment purchased from "KUFFAR" through which Afghan Jihad was fought.

    1. junaid Avatar

      Aaamir Mughal,

      Yeah, and how about you give the razors made by kuffar and start to use Kulharie to shave…

    2. dr jawwad khan Avatar


      well said..junaid

  4. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Maulana Fazl ur Rehman & his cronies:)))

    In view of Mawlvi Sahab's Anti American Rhetoric, would he like to define Akram Khan Durrani's [CM of NWFP from 2002 to 2007 in MMA/PML-Q league] Visit of USA where he was given detailed tour of Pentagon and Defence Department [mind you both of these facilities are full of Pro Israeli Zionist Neocons]: DETAILS: US Elections: Republicans or Democrats.

  5. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Maulana Fazl ur Rehman & his cronies:))) (AAJ, Express & Dawn news) mobiles were standing outside for coverage & no one dared show this incident apart from a short 10-second clip by Dawn TV. While The News crew were seen sitting inside having refreshments catered to by the event organizers


    Dear Alvi Sahab and Dawn TV are Islamophobes:)

    Maulana Fazlur Rehman and Opportunism.

  6. Ali Avatar

    Here are two ayats from Quran Shareef:

    It is not for any person to believe, except by the Leave of Allah, and He will put the wrath on those who are heedless. {Surah Yunus – Ayat 100}

  7. Ali Avatar

    Here is an ayats from Quran Shareef:

    It is not for any person to believe, except by the Leave of Allah, and He will put the wrath on those who are heedless. {Surah Yunus – Ayat 100}

  8. bhulleyshah Avatar

    ohhh mannn, MY GOD…..

    What a disaster. I hope we would still get the billions in AID.

    I hope the image of Pakistan does not go bad.

    I hope Zardari would still be the president.

    I hope Kiyani would win the next NOBLE PRIZE for PEACE.

    I hope all the people who shave would still shave.

    I hope Gillete would now come up with Gillet 6, 6 blades in one razor.

    I hope they would give free shaving cream to the citizens of Karachi.

    I hope Maulana Fazlur Rehman would get a bigger briefcase next time, Zardari and Kiyani call him.

    I hope MQM will take the security of the Expo Center at a minimum cost of half the price Black Water would charge.

    I hope Gillet would not quit Karachi, where would the people of Karachi work. If Gillette decides to quit Karachi.

    I feel sorry for the people who lost this huge opportunity. I mean they could have made headlines around the world and make tons of money.

    I hope the people who left would still choose Gillette to shave.

  9. Talkhaba Avatar

    I agree with these lines of Dr Amir’s column in today’s Jang;
    یقین کیجیے دل بہت جلا ہوا ہے ، جہاں اعمال ایسے ہوں کہ 1800افراد کی اجتماعی شیو کے لیے شعائر اسلام کی توہین کو بھی ”کاروبار“ سمجھا جائے ، ایسے اندھوں کے بازار میں آئینے کی دکان کھول کر کیا کروں؟میں اِس بحث میں نہیں پڑنا چاہتا کہ ڈاڑھی کے تارک کے لیے کیا وعیدیں ہیں لیکن اتناعرض کرنے کی ضرور جسارت کروں گا کہ جب آپ کو سوات میں صوفی محمد کے ”بے سروپا“ نظریات انتہا پسندی نظر آئے تو اجتماعی شیو کرنے کا عمل کیا ”اعتدال پسندی“ ہے ؟کیا یہ ”دوسری انتہا“ نہیں؟ آپ ایک بار نہیں سو مرتبہ شیو کیجیے، یہ ہدایت اور نصیب کے معاملے ہیں مگر ”اجتماعی شیو“ کا ”لگن منڈپ“ سجا کر اُن صحیح، حسن اور متواتر احادیث کی توہین تو نہ کیجیے جس میں مونچھیں کتروانے اور ڈاڑھی رکھنے کا حکم دیا گیا ہے۔ تلقین کے بعد بھی کوئی نماز نہیں پڑھتا تو نہ پڑھے،حشر میں وہ اِس اولین سوال کا خود ہی جواب دے گا مگر نماز کے وجود سے انکار تو نہ کرے! میں جانتا ہوں کہ مغرب ،مغرب نوازوں اور اُن کی ملازمت کرنے والے ”متجددین“کوبے حیائی، فحاشی اور ننگے پن سے کوئی اختلاف یا تکلیف نہیں، یہ مسرور ہوتے ہیں جب فیشن شوز میں ادھ کھلے لباس کے ساتھ مسلمان خواتین اِن کی پیاسی نگاہوں کے پیالوں میں گناہوں کی شراب انڈیلتے ہوئے اِن کے سامنے سے گذر تی ہیں،اِنہیں اچھا لگتا ہے جب مادر پدر آزادConcertsمیں اللہ اور اُس کے رسو ل کی شان میں گستاخی کے اشعار سے لبریز نغمے گونجتے ہیں اور یہ خوش ہوتے ہیں کہ لکھنے والا کوئی رام،پیٹر یا شمعون نہیں بلکہ ”گلزار“ ہے۔اِنہیں تو صرف تکلیف اور پریشانی ہے خواتین کے حجاب اور مردو ں کی ڈاڑھی سے۔قرآن پاک نے تو بہت پہلے ہی کہہ دیا تھا کہ ”اے پیارے ! یہ آپ سے کبھی راضی نہیں ہوں گے جب تک کہ آپ اِن کی ملت کا حصہ نہ بن جائیں“۔یعنی اِن جیسے نہ ہوجائیں، بس کپڑے اُتاریں ، ڈارھیاں منڈائیں اور پیکر بے ہودگی بن کر اِن میں شامل ہوجائیں۔
    اب یہ تو محبت کی بات ہے جس کو جس سے محبت ہوتی ہے وہ ویسا ہی بننے کی کوشش کرتا ہے ، سیدنا موسیٰ علیہ السلام اور سیدنامسیح اللہ علیہ السلام کی خیالی شبیہات اہل مغرب ہی نے بنائی ہیں اور دونوں ہی کی ڈاڑھی ہے ، کاش کہ آپ اپنی ہی بنائی ہوئی شبیہ پر عمل کرلیتے ،محمد صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم جیسے نہیں بننا چاہتے نہ بنیے آپ کا مقدر (کیونکہ یہ بڑے کرم کے ہیں فیصلے یہ بڑے نصیب کی بات ہے )کم از کم سیدنا موسیٰ علیہ السلام یا سیدنا مسیح علیہ السلام جیسے ہی بن جائیے یا پھر صومعے کے لاتعدادربئیوں اورقدامت پسند پادریوں کے خلاف احتجاج کرتے ہوئے پہلے اُن کی لمبی ڈاڑھیوں اور گرجا گھروں میں خدمت گذارNunsکے خوبصورت حجاب پر تنقید کیجیے اور اُس کے بعد پھر ہمارے حلیے کی طرف آئیے۔ بہرکیف میرا سوال توسب سے ایک ہی ہے اور وہ یہ کہ عورت کو کون سا عمل کمتر کرتا ہے ؟اُس کا حجاب پہننا یا اسٹیج پر ادھ کھلے لباس میں چہل قدمی کرنا؟افسوس کہ اہل مغرب اسلام کا یہ سیدھا سا پیغام سمجھ ہی نہ سکے اور بلب ایجاد کرنے کے باوجود اندھیرے میں رہنے کو ترجیح دیتے ہیں ۔ہاں ہم نے بلب ایجاد نہیں کیامگر اسلام کے چراغ نے ہمیں کل بھی روشنی میں پالا تھا اور آج بھی رستہ صاف دکھائی دے رہا ہے …!!!

  10. bhulleyshah Avatar

    ohh, I can’t wait to see another episode of Sir Zaid Hamid

  11. Nazia Avatar

    After seeing the lengthy dyed beard of our popular icons I think it is another financial burden on our country where cost of shaving is less than maintaining big mustache, beard and hair in dyed shape.

  12. kjjkl Avatar

    lol @ 'brave volunteers'

  13. bhulleyshah Avatar

    ohh wait…..

    these hooligans must be Indian Agents or Israili Agents.

    they must be paid by RAW agents to disrupt this event.

    these indian agents want to make Paksitan look bad….

    How about Pakistan Army start another operation 'Rah-e-Shave' to help people of Pakistan to shave.

    But would Gillete be able to afford the bill? I bet they would if they see the ROI.

    1. Abdullah Avatar

      I love you bhulleyshah :D, I was too lazy to write that all, but you wrote everything that was in my mind.

  14. mak009x Avatar

    Shaving the beard results in a series of Islamic violations, as is obvious from Allah's Book and His Messenger's Sunnah. The following is a list (not necessarily comprehensive) of such violations:

    a. A Disobedience to Allah (T)

    Shaving the beard is a disobedience to Allah (T). The ruler of Yemen, appointed by the Persian emperor Kisraa, sent two envoys to the Messenger (S) to summon him. When they came into his presence, he noticed that they had shaved their beards and grew their moustaches. He hated to look at them (because of their odd appearance) and he said: Woe be to you, who told you to do so? They replied: "Our lord! (referring to Kisraa.)" The Messenger (S) then said:

    But my Lord, may He be exalted and glorified, has commanded me to leave alone my beard and to trim my moustache. [Recorded by Ibn Jar r a-abar , and judged to be Hasan (good) by al-Albani.]

    b. A Disobedience To the Messenger (S)

    Shaving the beard is a disobedience to the Messenger (S). In many hadiths, the Messenger (S) commanded men to leave alone their beards. These different hadiths have a similar meaning:

    Trim the moustache and save the beard. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

    Obeying the Messenger (S) in that is equivalent to obeying Allah (T) who said (what means):

    He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah. [An-Nisaa 4:80]

    c. A Deviation from the Appearance and Guidance of the Messenger (S)

    Shaving the beard is a deviation from the appearance and guidance of the Messenger (S). The Messenger (S) used to have a large beard [Muslim]. One should strive to imitate him (S) in his practices, as Allah (T) said (what means):In the Messenger of Allah is a good example for you to follow. [Al-Ahzab 33:21]

    And the Messenger (S) said: Verily, the best guidance is Muhammad's guidance. [Muslim]

    d. A Deviation from the Way of Believers

    Shaving the beard is a deviation from the way of believers. All the prophets (S), the sahbah (Prophet's companions), the great `ulamaa, and the righteous early Muslims of this Ummah (Nation) grew their beards. There is no report of a single one of them ever shaving his beard. Thus, this is their way, and Allah (T) says (in the meaning):

    Whoever disobeys the Messenger after guidance has been clarified to him, and follows other than the path of the believers, We shall give to him what he deserves and broil him in hell, which is the worst abode. [An-Nisaa 4:115]

    e. An Imitation of the Disbelievers

    Shaving the beard is an imitation of the disbelievers. This has been emphasized in several hadiths of the Prophet (S). For example:

    Cut the moustaches and grow your beards. Be different from the Magians (followers of a religion that dominated in Persia). [Muslim]

    Cut your moustaches and leave your beards alone. Be different from the people of the scripture. [Muslim]

    Be different from the Mushrikin (those who worship other than Allah (T)); trim your moustaches and save your beards. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

    We have been commanded to be different and distinct from the disbelievers, as in surat ul-Fatihah. Also, Allah (T) said (what means):

    Follow not the whims of those who have no knowledge (of Islam). [Al-Jathiyah 45:18]

    And His Messenger (S) said: Whoever imitates a people is but one of them. [Recorded by Abu Dawud, and judged to be authentic by al-Albani]

    f. Changing Allah's Creation without Permission

    The Messenger (S) declared that the women who change what Allah (T) has created (such as removing the hair from their faces or filing their teeth or tattooing their bodies) seeking by that to improve their appearance, are accursed by Allah (T). [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]

    The hadith mentioned women in particular because they normally seek to beautify themselves more than men. But the warning surely applies to both sexes, because the condition for the curse is declared, and thus the curse applies to anyone who satisfies such condition.

    Shaving the beard falls under this warning, as it is much worse than the Nam (removal of facial hair) practiced by some women. It involves obeying Satan who said:

    And I shall tempt them until they change what Allah has created. [An-Nisaa 4:119]

    g. An Imitation of Women

    The beard is a major distinction between men and women. Shaving it removes this distinction, and is thus a means of imitating women. The Messenger (S) said:

    Allah curses those men who imitate the women, and He curses those women who imitate the men. [Al-Bukhari]

    h. Shaving the Beard Contradicts the Pure Fitrah (Nature)

    Allah's Messenger (S) mentioned ten qualities as indicative of a good, clean nature [Muslim]. Two of these qualities are to trim the moustaches and to grow the beard.

    The Messenger (S) also tells that every child is born with a clean, pure fitrah, which later may get deformed by the influence of the environment and the up-bringing. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

    In the footsteps of the disbelievers, many Muslims' fitrah is now, unfortunately, so much deformed that they seem to find a clean-shaven man more handsome and masculine than one with a beard – exactly the opposite of what the Messenger (S) declared in the above hadith.

    This fitrah never changes with time: Allah (T) said (what means):

    The pure nature according to which Allah has created people. There is no change in Allah's creation. [Ar-Room 30:30]

    For shaving their beards, some men give the strange excuse that their wives prefer them without one! As if their purpose in this life is to follow the deformed inclinations of their wives instead of the clear-cut commands of Allah (T) and His Messenger (S)!

    Others claim that growing their beards results in an irritability and scratching. This cannot result from abiding by the pure fitrah, but would result (if true) from neglect of the proper cleaning and washing with wudu as instructed in the Sunnah.

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      What about some protests against this vice? No doubt Beard is Sunnah but practicing Polytheism is far more dangerous becaue Allah accepts prayers [Salat] without Beard but wouldn't accept Polytheism. Why didn't the Mullahs protest against this like they protest against Foreign Influence. Are they protecting and preserving someone in MMA? Makkah to Data Darbar Lahore [Sufi Shrine in Pakistan] Makkah to Data Darbar Lahore [Sufi Shrine in Pakistan ] Idol Worshipping and Grave Worshipping amongst Muslims

  15. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    junaid says: April 2, 2010 at 8:56 am Aaamir Mughal, Yeah, and how about you give the razors made by kuffar and start to use Kulharie to shave…


    Professor injured: IJT displays brute force on campus

    By Mansoor Malik Friday, 02 Apr, 2010

  16. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Lecture… of Aamir Liaquat on Beard and his own Tongue unleash "Tabbarra – Blasphemy" against the Companions of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] Jahil Online Spreading Superstitions

    Posted by Teeth Maestro January 30, 2010. The beard Aamir Liaquat Hussain have cannot be called Islamic at all because much Mawlana Manzoor Naimani, Maulana Masood Alam Nadvi had quit JI on Mawdudi's comment on beard


    “But for me not only this definition of the Sunnah is false, rather I hold the belief that declaring this kind of things (like beard) to be Sunnah and then insisting on this understanding, is a serious kind of innovation and a dangerous deviation in religion” ( “Tarjuman Al-Quran” Hijri Year 1345)

    "…….your approach that prophet (pbuh) used to keep the long beard so to keep that much long beard is the prophets sunnah. which meant that you considers that what prophet's habit is the same sunnah to which they (prophet Mohammed and the earlier prophets) came to establish. BUT from my way of thinking this is not the true defination of sunnah but i have a strong belief that if these things considered as sunnah and insisted to be implemented then it is one of the strong type of innovation (bida) and dangerous alteration in religion which resulted in bad results in past and can show bad results in future also ……" .{Tarjumanul Qur'ân part 26, no. 403, 605 page 274 edition may/june 1945} – ( jamaate-islami ko phachaniye – page 28).


    Aamir Liaquat and Tabbarra on Companions: GEO TV's Paedophile/Child Molester Correspondent in USA – 2

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar

      would it not be better if you have given your fatwa about "collective shaving" rather than character assasination?

      Amir Liaquat may be very bad…but what he is saying is correct? Don't you think so?

      please do share your islamic knowledge regarding the effort of collective shaving.

  17. Sadia Hussain Avatar
    Sadia Hussain

    I am baffled and shocked! The MNC ‘S in Pakistan are hesitant to invest more in Pakistan, and if the Gillette planned to do a PR stunt by shaving more 2000 people at a time what harm did it bring to Pakistan ? Chances were it would be reported as quite a show! But the every so right clergy found this against their principles and the event was sabotaged.

    To shave or not shave that is solely are personal matter, when will be curb down on the clerics who are radicalizing our society?

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar


      please do not worry about MNCs.

      they know how to sell in difficult circumstances.

    2. dr jawwad khan Avatar

      and they will sell no matter how much you dislike their product.

  18. Kashifiat Avatar

    I read the whole post of Doctor 'T' & Raza Qureshi & found it a master piece of self developed conspiracies & biased attitudes; the term used for these types of pseudo intellectuals is “Liberal fascist”.

    They are afraid with people “disagreement with their agreement”, It’s my right to disagreed with any opinion/ event in a peaceful manner. This is one sided biased story & there is a need to come true picture. The above post is full of lies & distort.

    Shaving is a personal matter but if it moves towards collective wisdom, efforts & expression then it should be resisting because darhi is the sunnah of all prophets & included in Sha’air-e-Islam & that collective act will be consider as insult of sha’air.

    The whole process of disagreement was completely peaceful; those who are disagreed used all possible ways to register their reservations,

    1.They discussed & raised the issue with expo center management

    2.They used power of digital communication by using SMS to general Karachi citizens as well as brand team of Gillette. No one gave any threat to anyone; those who SMS the brand team or called just show their reservation, grievances & disappointment with show & request management to hold that program.Its false propaganda by the author of that post management was threatened. If public reaction is threat then what is areal threat, need to define.

    3.A complete peaceful demonstration was also took place, in which all walk of life was participated, madressa students to IT engineers, students of college & universities to the teachers & businessmen, in short representation of society was there, its wrong that only madressa students were their. During this demonstration even a single glass was not broken.

    4.What happened inside, it was simple that those Muftas who come there looted & involved in all sort of torphor, basically they were disappointed with management of event.

    Basically these liberal fascist are the mouth piece of Western values, but when they defend or propagate Western values they completely ignored their values of tolerance & understanding of right of disagreement.

    In their perspective all those who are disagreed with their so called misguided liberal views are Mullahs.

    If Mullah is the name of resistance against liberal fascist

    then I am proud to be Mullah.

    Read the real facts from here

    1. Doctor T Avatar
      Doctor T

      Ahem! Fascist 'rabid' mullah's

  19. FZ Avatar

    yes "liberal facism" is what's wrong with Pakistan. I love how our fundos love to use the terminology of the neocons….they are simply the other side of the same retarded coin

  20. kjjkl Avatar

    I can bet that if it was not for the Mullahs than these liberal western poodles would make even taking the name of religion/Islam a taboo

  21. Mansoor Khalid Avatar
    Mansoor Khalid

    It just cannot get funnier than this. Gillette organized a competition to promote its product and people with extreme ideologies came out with banners. I guess having a beard or not having one is a personal choice. Plus it’s not mandatory in Islam, it’s optional. But we focus more on “optional” stuff and focus less on what’s mandatory.

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Dear Mansoor Sahab,

      Dr Aamir Liaquat is lecturing but one wonders if he even know about the Funds Jang/GEO TV Group generate through Gillette Advertisement [A big portion of the salaries of Aamir and many other "Islamic Lecturers" on these TV Channles is generated through advertisements from MNCs] . Why don't they quit to protect the honour of Sunnah or did Aamir Liaquat ever advised GEO TV Newscasters to grow beard.

    2. Kashifiat Avatar

      In marketing there is a concept, think globally & act locally, Deinitely shaving is personal matter, but it should be keep as personal, din't come with the idea of collective shaves which is not all personal matter

  22. Mariam Avatar

    I agree that the protest didn't make sense, and religion should not be involved in this.

    However, I am surprised that everyone seems to have accepted and has no issues with the pointlessness of this event. Mass Shaving to break a world record? Like seriously!?!? Gather so many people…. to just shave.

    In a country with rampant poverty, and most of the population living in sub-standard conditions, an organization wants to invest in a random event and no one thinks that's weird. Of course, I don't propagate that we should be telling companies how to spend money and on what. But the fact that people have accepted that it's ok to have random events, while not focusing on more crucial issues is a bit disturbing.

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      In my humble opinion this whole show of "Protest" could be a similar exercise to malign the Religious Class just like in the case of "Fake Flogging Video"

  23. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Kashifiat says: – April 2, 2010 at 3:00 pm – In marketing there is a concept, think globally & act locally, Deinitely shaving is personal matter, but it should be keep as personal, din’t come with the idea of collective shaves which is not all personal matter


    Dear Kashif Sahab,

    My comments were not against the Sunnah of Beard, please don't take it that way. What I am trying to say that those [likes of Aamir Liaquat] who cannot even say the Truth within their organization [GEO/JANG] have no right to lecture and placed themselves on higher pedestal acting like Sanctimonious Preachers: GEO TV violates Blasphemy Law of Islam. بے خبری میں آپ کیسے “جی“ رہے ہیں ۔۔ کیا دیکھہ رہے ہیں ۔۔ کس سے لطف اندوز ہو رہے ہیں ۔۔۔ ذرا سوچئیے ؟؟

    I wonder if you have watched INDIAN TV SHOWS on 23rd March on GEO TV [AMAN KI ASHA].

    1. bhulleyshah Avatar


      And you have the authority to give lecture? but not Amir Liaqat?

      You are saying that since Amir Liaqat has been wrong in the past that means he would always be wrong in the future…

      You are an anarchist, when you don't find something wrong in a statement you start to bring personal flaws of the person who uttered the statement you don't agree with.

      Poor taste Aamir Mughal. Stop smoking what you smoke.

  24. dr jawwad khan Avatar

    what a glorious job!

    hat off for those who disrubted an attempt of promotion of a vice.

    salute to those boys and girls…..

  25. dr jawwad khan Avatar

    @Amir Mughal!

    Would you please share the Ahadith e Mubarika regarding the emphasis on beard…

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Already posted above by mak009x [post number 14]

  26. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    junaid says: – April 2, 2010 at 8:56 am – Aaamir Mughal,

    Yeah, and how about you give the razors made by kuffar and start to use Kulharie to shave…

    dr jawwad khan says: April 2, 2010 at 4:01 pm ahahahahhahaha

    well said..junaid


    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    I agree that I violate Sunnah but would you like to tell about the size of you beard? Is it allowed in Islam to keep a beard like you and Aamir Liaquat keep???

    Cutting more than a “handful” of the beard

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar

      now this is a cheap personal attack!

      i am not a good muslim at all by any mean.

      my beard is not according to the sunnah.

      but like any other muslim i hate the idea of mocking with "sunnat e Rasool salaho ale wassalim"

      the discussion is not on beard of dr Amir Liaqat or mine.

      its not about me its about us….As a muslim what we feel on this incident? We feel that this is an attempt of mockery with sunnat e rasool(saw).

      @ Amir Mughal!

      kindly tell us,WHAT DO YOU FEEL?

  27. Hira Mir Avatar

    Bringing the youth to streets and such protests will do little service to Islam. I am not a very religious person myself but such acts is what I condemn. This is not Islam to protest on such matters all the time that only creates chaos in the country.

    1. Kashifiat Avatar

      Miss Hira, in democratic society peaceful protest is the sign of maturity, what harm if people gather, protest, without creating law & order, without disturbing traffic, without throughing stones on windows. even without breaking any singal glass?

      Basically, its Gillette people who are unware with country condition where they are waisting million of rupees on such a pity show

    2. bhulleyshah Avatar

      ohhh poor Hira Mir is disturbed by a protest by Muslims….

      poor little Hira.

      So what do you think would be a great service to Islam? Run a porn movie and make the whole country watch it together and break all the world records?

      or selling Muslims and Islam for some more aid would be a great service to Islam?

      or would allowing more drone attacks all over Pakistan would be a great service to Islam?

  28. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    dr jawwad khan says: – April 2, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    would it not be better if you have given your fatwa about “collective shaving” rather than character assasination?

    Amir Liaquat may be very bad…but what he is saying is correct? Don’t you think so? please do share your islamic knowledge regarding the effort of collective shaving.


    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    If you agree with Aamir Liaquat Hussain and say that I am indulged in Character Assassination then please explain the Tabbarra [BLASPHEMY] BY Aamir Liaquat Against the Companions of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar


      sadqay jaen tumhari sadgi kay….

      ham khet ki bat kar rahay aur tumhen khaliyan sunaee day raha hay.

  29. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    dr jawwad khan says: April 2, 2010 at 4:20 pm now this is a cheap personal attack!


    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    Do check your own language you use for others before raising fingers


    FROM THE THREAD: Blackwater ‘IN’ Pakistan – Rehman Malik, Patterson & Clinton all LIED to the People of Pakistan

    Posted by Teeth Maestro January 23, 2010

    Talkhaba says: January 25, 2010 at 12:21 pm @Jawad Khan!

    Give us some freedom to use the language which is unethical for the print and electronic media.

    dr jawwad khan says: January 25, 2010 at 12:39 pm @ Talkhaba sb, lolzzz for cut pastia….you know why i like the teeth maestro? because of minimum possible editing policy of the owner.


    The Blasphemy Law: An Objective Assessment from Religious, Legal & Social Perspectives Posted by Teeth Maestro October 20, 2009 you are the bigger asshole [dr jawwad khan on October 29, 2009 @ 2:11 pm]


    bottom line javed ghamidi and dr.khalid zaheer are two biggets lying sons of bitch [dr jawwad khan on October 31, 2009 @ 1:51 am]

    Aamir Mughal says: November 1, 2009 at 12:53 am you should be ashamed of lying about Quran e Kareem. like teacher(son of a bitch) like follower(pseudo muslim moderates) SURA TAUBA WAS LAST IN THE ORDER OF DESCEND. [Dr Jawwad Khan]


    Dear Jawad Sahab,

    And you should see before you write that you are raising false allegation. I had said and written Sura Anfal – Chapter 8 not not Surah Tawba – Chapter 9.

    Aamir Mughal says: November 1, 2009 at 12:50 am SURA 8(TAUBA) DESCENDED IN 9TH HIJRI…. you should be ashamed of lying about Quran e Kareem. like teacher(son of a bitch) like follower(pseudo muslim moderates) SURA TAUBA WAS LAST IN THE ORDER OF DESCEND. [Dr Jawwad Khan]

    Dear Jawwad Sahab,

    Instead of bad mouthing you should first raed Quran to learn that Chapter number 8 is AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY) not Sura Tawba as you have wrongly misquoted me above with lot of bad mouthing. May Allah help us in controlling our rage.


  30. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Kashifiat says: – April 2, 2010 at 5:25 pm Miss Hira, in democratic society peaceful protest is the sign of maturity, what harm if people gather, protest, without creating law & order, without disturbing traffic, without throughing stones on windows. even without breaking any singal glass?



    ادْعُ إِلِى سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ وَجَادِلْهُم بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبِيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ

    Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the better way. Lo! thy Lord is Best Aware of him who strayeth from His way, and He is Best Aware of those who go aright. [AN-NAHL (THE BEE) Chapter 16 Verse 125]

  31. kukulu Avatar

    I also saw the local tv news on this. samaa? or ary ?? i dont remember..but:

    the beards are making a laughing stock of themselves…

    obviously what the beards fear most are razors 😀

    and of course this particular group of beards is a brand in itself. not all beards are equal or the same.

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar

      ku kulu ku!

      i have a beard but i love razors to shave the hairs on "other" parts of my body 😉

      i assure you that beard are not afraid of razor.i can understand your love and passion for the razors. i saw many time on the tv commercial that a dick shaving his facial hairs and a chick appears and feels the smoothness of the skin and gives a proudly smile over the act of shaving and ofcourse this is the reason i call all you dicks the "chute kay naee"

  32. Maher Elahi Avatar
    Maher Elahi

    Pakistan is destined to be held hostage to the lunatic fringe using religion as a weapon, pretext and excuse. This was used for carving out the country by elitists without foresight for the consequential hazards and that is why these Molvies and Maulanas although a tiny minority continue to hold sway.

    1. bhulleyshah Avatar

      Maher Elahi,

      Pakistan has already been f@cked by lunatic Liberal Facists for past 50+ years.

      Do you know what happened in 1971? yeah blame it on the Muslims. The reality is it were liberal facists on both sides of Pakistan who had their own agendas before the sovereignity of Pakistan.

      The truth is it were liberal facists and it is this group of lunatics both in politics and army who have taken this country to the edge of collapse and yet blame it on Islam and Muslims.

  33. RODA Avatar

    And the winner is Gillette Pakistan.

    What a marketing by Gillette .

    I think they were well aware about the out come of this event.

    Gillette Pakistan got lot of publicity on internet and international media .

    Did any body ask them that why they shutdown there “ Seven O clock” blade factory located in Hub in 1990 ,even that was earning good profit on that time.

    MNC play games here.

  34. kukulu Avatar

    @RODA, that is correct!

    all the rest are comp0lete foools, hahahaa 😀

  35. geeman Avatar

    What a sick mentality!!

    I mean this big corporation lost a show and people are fretting about it….

    People, lives in Karachi are lost every day but you have no balls to write against the targetted killings??? Why ???

    Is it all you care about? A big corporation just loosing a minute % of their profits?

    The truth is we don't care about our brothers, our citizens all we care about is the f@cking image abroad….. PATHETIC LOOSERS

    1. Al Avatar

      I think it has nothing to do with worrying about some MNC. The issue is people using violence or the threat of violence in this case to impose their opinion.

      This was not some event to promote shaving in anyway – it was an event to promote the Gillette brand. Do you people really think people were going to start shaving off their beards after getting somehow influenced by this? It was just a promotional event & had nothing to do with promoting any ideology but a brand.

      What is the next step? Start threatening & bombing barber shops?

      This is really stupid & sad at the same time. This is what we have bought our religion down to.

      Yes Beard is a great Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) & has been of all other Prophets of Allah. But it is a Sunnah, not a Farz & it is a personal choice. It was never imposed on anyone during the time of the Prophet (PBUH) or the rightly guided Caliphs (RA).

      To people who are saying that the writers of this article are heartless as they are worried about some MNC & not the countless people that are being killed around us, i say this:

      What have the protesters who were so afraid that somehow Islam was under threat because of 2000 people shaving at the same time done themselves about the issues that you are pointing out.

      If i recognize the person giving the speech there, it is Adnan Kakakhel who is associated with Jamia Binoria – the very same Jamia Binoria that endorsed the MQM in the 2008 elections, a party avowedly secular & arguably involved in many of the incidents of violence we witness in our city.

      This is the hypocrisy in our society.

      We get bogged down in relatively unimportant issues when more serious issues face our society. This became an issue because the protesters made this into an issue otherwise the event would have passed off quietly.

  36. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    bhulleyshah says: April 2, 2010 at 9:00 pm Aamir, And you have the authority to give lecture? but not Amir Liaqat? You are saying that since Amir Liaqat has been wrong in the past that means he would always be wrong in the future… You are an anarchist, when you don’t find something wrong in a statement you start to bring personal flaws of the person who uttered the statement you don’t agree with.


    Dear Shah Sahab,

    I just gave my opinion not lecture and if you say that "Tabbarra Against the Companions of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)" is just "A Personal Flaw" of Aamir Liaquat then May Allah help us all because if anyone here would have quoted Quran and Hadith on beard then it wouldn't have been a problem but lecture on Islam from a TV Anchor who doesn't even know about the "Status" of Companions [Sahaba Kiram] would not be acceptable to any sane person.

  37. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    bhulleyshah says: April 2, 2010 at 9:00 pm Aamir, And you have the authority to give lecture? but not Amir Liaqat? You are saying that since Amir Liaqat has been wrong in the past that means he would always be wrong in the future… You are an anarchist, when you don’t find something wrong in a statement you start to bring personal flaws of the person who uttered the statement you don’t agree with.


    Dear Shah Sahab,

    You decide about Aamir Liaquat's status as an Islamic Scholar after watching his abusive language on Companions:

  38. abdulaziz abid Avatar
    abdulaziz abid

    مدرسہ کلچر میرے خییال سے اسلام کو اور تباہ کرے گا– جس کو اپنے بچے کو پرواریش کے ئے کچھ نہی ہوتا یا کسی کا بچہ تعلیم مین ناکام رہتا ہے — اس کے مانباپ مدرسہ مین ڈال دیتےہین– مین صح کہتا ہون کہ حافظ قران علم نہی ہے– مدرسے کا منتظیم بھی وہی ہوتا ہے جو کبی اپنے باپ کی کمائی کا لقمہ نہی کھایا- اور جو دولت مند گنہا گار اپنے ایصال ثواب کے ئے چندے بھچتے ہین– واہ واہ ڈاڑھی جیاد

    1. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Aziz Sahab,

      Then Madressah is not be blamed rather the System which doesn't provide equal opportunity to the children of the poor class [more than 40 % Pakistanis] are living below poverty line. I wonder if you have even seen the Madressah from inside because you are blaming the whole institution of Madressah because of some Bad Maulvis who provided cannon fodder to the Military Establishment for their Strategic Depths.

    2. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Dear Aziz Sahab,

      If you would go through Muqqademah Ibn Khaldun, then you may find that Great Ibn Khaldun has discussed Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, Political Science, Education System, Civics and what not… Do you think that he studied in Oxford or Cambridge?? He studied in Madressah and in those days "Secular Science" were taught in Madressahs and that's why he is called "Allama" The only fault or mistake in present Madressahs is this that they don't pay attention to modern sciences and if they include these Sciences in their syllabus then you may again have "Allamas" instead of Theocracy.

  39. Salman Avatar

    Buhat ala, just talk about the non issues

  40. Nazia Avatar

    Very surprise to see that men are very touchy in this issue.

    I hope Gillette has learn a unique lesson and would remember it as our mischievous nature of creating riots like situation taking religion as shield.

    One thing I ask to male community that what was basic purpose of this beard in an Islamic society?

    Does it make man more pious and God fearer.

    Does such presentation has any logical background to keep our status high among different communities.

    If we see the scene of HAJ, would find less than 50% pilgrimage follow this tradition so what is reason of getting annoyed and passing loose comments on each other.

    Last days I attended the marriage function of tableeghi jaamt groom and alhuda trained bride.

    I am shocked to see the distortion of our beautiful cermonies under relgious extremism.

    like bride never showed her face, nor use nail polish or didnt make her hair like typcial brides.

    No tradtional music was played and groom and his tableeghi jammat members were in so much serious mood that I thought they are for some condelence like scene.

    So what ever war we are fighting against talibans but this culture has been conceptually entered in our sides and we are just wasting our resources on war fares.

    We are highly in need of restoration of our real values which we are loosing in between two extreme cultures.One is in mood of following relgious and other is to counter it with western and Indian themes.

    1. yh Avatar

      you are so sick ..can't tolerate the Sunnah can't you ?

      next you will ask

      what is the basic purpose of namaz? what is the purpose of roza? why do we need to kill animals on eid ? Does it make man more pious and God fearer.?

    2. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Dear Ms. Nazia,

      If the family has adopted an extreme way then again it is not Islam that is responsible because merry making and enjoying marriage songs is allowed in Islam [for reference see Bukhari] and that doesn't mean "Mujra" and "Ghazal Nights" rather family women/children singing marriage songs.

    3. dr jawwad khan Avatar

      what is extremism in it?

      did they also force you to wear hijab?

      Or they stop you entering entering in the wedding hall just because of your make up?

      what is extremism in it? if she(bride) according to her belief chose not to do all sort of things other brides use to do.

      you don't have a religious knowledge and your mind rejects every islamic practice with out giving a second thought.

      that is why you are unable to see how Islam offers a great solution of the biggest problem of the parents i.e marriage of their daughters. Imagine that if this kind of simplicity prevail in our society…it will reduce the biggest burden from the shoulders of the parents.

      i think you are here to test the nerves of the ordinary muslims.

    4. Nazia Avatar

      dR KHAN discovered

      i think you are here to test the nerves of the ordinary Muslim

      I have landed here after 40 comments before this I have obserevd the nerves of ordinary muslims how they are handling each other.

      You can also review it by yourself.

    5. Maher Elahi Avatar
      Maher Elahi

      Nazia, there are no our or their human values. These are reflections of civilized and uncivilized behavourial norms.

      No one nation or community owns a certain set of values, as they are common heritage of all the human beings. What we see as mankind at this juncture is the result of the evolovement for millions of years and the values evolve along side. It is for us to choose which is good and reject what is bad. The human beings when well groomed look better and shaving of beards is a very well accepted and liked component of male grooming over centuries.

      Unfortunately Gillet fusion, Gillet sensor and other comfortable and smooth shaving tools were not available to our ancestry otherwise perhaps wearing beards would not have been an issue to be reckoned with presently.

  41. Nazia Avatar

    Namaz has multpurpose spiritual and wordly aspects and nobody has courage to defy its importance in daily life.

    Same way fasting phase is revelation of such sentiments which we cant feel in full stomach.

    Animal sacrifice is symbol of offering of something precious to deity .

    It has again multiple social effects on any system.

    Yes these all make man close to God and humanity and its suffering.

    On the other hand long beard men can reflect double or many standard of living.

    Practically such beard class is not allowed to join jobs in industries like pharmaceutical, and food .

    Even in maintainance jobs of delicate instrumentation these beard men should be avoided as long beard can create hindrance in line of duty.

    Long beard cook cant maintain hygenic standard.

    In an operation theater can such beard staff or doctor can keep the standard of sterilization in operation theater .

    Religious scholars or preachers can distinguish themselves through such standard of presentation but no way all men of any community can grow beards like that.

    I have seen some drawn pictures of Holy

    Prophet in different encyclopedias and it size like that as we see of amir liqaut.

    1. kjjkl Avatar

      lol, what lame arguments, I can also provide some for namaz and eid

      like namaz results in wastage of time 5 and breaks for namaz can't be allowed in jobs like helpline and call-center where all time attendance is required

      eid results in so much environmental pollution due to leftovers of killed animals and isn't the slaughter itself very cruel .. so why not give up on that too ?

      "Deen mein poora poora dakhil ho gaio" .. no pick and choose please ..

      If you are not going to have beard than don't have it, but don't mock others who chose to follow the path of Prophet (SAW)

    2. Nazia Avatar


      You have entered in deen solely and whole heartedly, welcome to all its adoptions,

      now kindly tell me few logical advantage and effects of this uncut and long beard in Islamic culture.

      When Islamic society was in state of evolution Muslim men and women were in need of such presentation to keep them prominent among non Muslims.

      so please find same reason in any ISLAMIC SOCIETY TOO.

      which I personally feel is quite reversed.

    3. Aamir Mughal Avatar

      Nazia says: – April 3, 2010 at 12:35 am I have seen some drawn pictures of Holy Prophet in different encyclopedias and it size like that as we see of amir liqaut.


      Dear Ms. Nazia,

      No offence but May Allah save us from any such picture. Aamir Liaqaut doesn't even deserve to be compared with the worst sinner of that "Blessed Era". Description of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] as defined in Hadiths, Seerah Books History is as under:


      Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was of a height a little above the average. He was of sturdy build with long muscular limbs and tapering fingers. The hair of his head was long and thick with some waves in them. His forehead was large and prominent, his eyelashes were long and thick, his nose was sloping, his mouth was somewhat large and his teeth were well set. His cheeks were spare and he had a pleasant smile. His eyes were large and black with a touch of brown.


      "His beard was thick and at the time of his death, he had seventeen gray hairs in it."

      He had a thin line of fine hair over his neck and chest.

      His gait was firm and he walked so fast that others found it diffucult to keep pace with him. His face was genial but at times, when he was deep in thought, there there were long periods of silence, yet he always kept himself busy with something. He did not speak unnecessarily and what he said was always to the point and without any padding. At times he would make his meaning clear by slowly repeating what he had said. His laugh was mostly a smile. He kept his feelings under firm control – when annoyed, he would turn aside or keep silent, when pleased he would lower his eyes (Shamail Tirmizi).


  42. Nazia Avatar


    for God sake I am talking about human distortion in religious matters.

    I attended Arab marriages and found same enthusiasms as I feel in our side.

    Family and groups dances in traditional theme are very enjoyable moments and one should enjoy it.

    We Asians have no such excursions and enjoyments as west has in its system and our major happiness around such functions to release our routine tensions through such gatherings.

    No way I am looking for mujra culture.

    I belong to lahori family and I was among the first member of family who reacted against such mujrah and merrassi culture with in my circle.

    But ladies also encouraged men for such kind of shits and it is also part of our culture.

  43. Doctor T Avatar
    Doctor T

    how did all you Islamist Fascist came to know that people who came were muslims????? leave alone the fact that you can create a fuss to stop it, you have no right!!!!

    How can you even stop someone from having get rid of his facial hairs, WHAT IS YOUR BUSINESS IN SOME ONE'S 5 O CLOCK SHADOW???

    Was your religion 'invested' in all those Beards????

  44. dr jawwad khan Avatar

    " Namaz has multpurpose spiritual and wordly aspects and nobody has courage to defy its importance in daily life"

    what purpose? it is an order of Allah(swt) and Rasoolullah(swt) first and every other thing comes later…people offer prayers and fast in day and perform hajj and sacrifice the animal just because it is the order of Allah (saw)and His Prophet(saw)


    "On the other hand long beard men can reflect double or many standard of living."

    this is really a bogus and third class childish reason to criticize on beard….A hypocrite first offers the prayers, loves to be known as "paband e som o salat" and then grow his beard.

    may be you do not have an idea but reality is that you are insulting yourself…

    and believe me you need a treatment.

  45. Nazia Avatar

    Dr khan

    If couple has such trend of simplicity then they can go to mosques and thats all .

    Simple way of wedding surely can solve lot problems but such kind of show of abnormaility in front of family who has differnt style of living is surely not a normal attitude.

    what is purpose of inviting large number of family persons for such gatherings.

    I am no way insulting any thing and body but showing you practical aspect of having long beard.

    I refused to supervise any job of critical running machines if long beard technician was sent to me.As it is mentioned in safety procedures of handling these sensitive and fastly moving machines.

    If i would share you my practical experience with beard men of our society then you would need treatment after hearing their hypocrite standard of living and extreme dishonesty in their professional and moral lives.

    1. Nazia Avatar

      Namaz gives you first lesson of discipline in your starting life.

      Praying five times a day gives you lesson of punctuality and it is key to success in all stages of life.

      Spiritually you five times come in contact with your Creator and shows your obedience and thankfulness for all His blessing.

  46. mak009x Avatar

    @Naazia, ROFL HAHAHHAHAHAHA you saw some drawn up pictures of the Prophet where his beard was like Aamir Liaquat so now we should follow that drawing ? thats the height of stupidity.

  47. Nazia Avatar


    sorry I shouldn't share such height of stupidity in your high profile company and should look for more stupids to state what I actually saw in different books.

    sorry again hurting your level of stupidity

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar

      i never saw a "bibi bhanis" suffering from Schizophrenia

    2. Al Avatar

      hehehe @ dr. sb.

      From my observation over the last few days this “bibi bhanis” follows a religion that basically teaches "whatever the fuck i think is right is Islam & whatever i don't agree with is not Islam. Period."

      My question to “bibi bhanis” why do you need to cloak your believes in the garb of Islam? Just say you follow whatever you want.

  48. Aamir Mughal Avatar

    Doctor T says: April 3, 2010 at 12:31 am Ahem! Fascist ‘rabid’ mullah’s

    پنجاب یونیورسٹی کےاساتذہ ہڑتال پر

    آخری وقت اشاعت: جمعـء 2 اپريل 2010 , 17:49 GMT 22:49 PST

    پروفیسر جاوید سمیع نے پروفیسر افتخار بلوچ کو مبینہ طور پر زدو کوب کرنے کے واقعے کا پس منظر بتاتے ہوئے کہا کہ چھ طلبہ کو نظم و ضبط کی شدید خلاف ورزی پر یونیورسٹی سےنکالے جانے پر یہ واقعہ ہوا۔ان کا کہنا ہے کہ ان طلبہ نے ایک طالب علم کو مار مار کر لہو لہان کر دیا تھا۔

    تحقیق کرنے اور چشم دیدگواہان کے بیان پر ان پر الزام ثابت ہوا اور انہوں یونیورسٹی سے نکال دیاگیا جس کے بعد اسلامی جمعیت طلبہ تعلق رکھنے والے بیس سے پچیس طلبہ نے چار بجے کے قریب جب یونیورسٹی تقریباً خالی ہو چکی تھی پروفیسر افتخار کے دفتر جا کر انہیں زدو کوب کیا۔

    1. Nazia Avatar

      JI is very successful holding its center of power in Punjab university for many many years.Even an appointment of retired general couldn't eliminate the hooliganism of JI from this historical educational institute.

      Such kind of incident as you highlighted is not a surprise for us but when Imran khan was maltreated and handed over to police from solid physics department during Musharf last month actions then it assured me that our agencies have some kind of influence there through JI links.

      So it is more than mullah culture in Punjab university and still strong uphold of JI even they have lost confidence of lahori people long time ago.

  49. junaid Avatar

    While there is chaos in the society, there is one group who is consistantly busy in their target, target killing is their way of suppressing opposition.

    While our Kaley Angrez are busy mourning the failure of Gillet PR campaign, MQM is busy target killing their political opponents and religious leaders.

    Read one more:

    NO, NA-PAK FAUJ, will not launch an operation 'Rah-e-Bharwat', as they will not get $$$$$$$ if they run this operation.

    1. dr jawwad khan Avatar

      "NO, NA-PAK FAUJ, will not launch an operation ‘Rah-e-Bharwat’, as they will not get $$$$$$$ if"


      No dear its not "Rah e Bharwat" its "Rah e Bharwat geeri".

      lolzzz i like the name of the operation

  50. kjjkl Avatar

    @Nazia what is the 'logic' of believing in God? what is the logic of wadhu/Ablution , if you already maintain a good personal hygiene than why do you even need to perform wadhu before praying ?

    The mere reason that it is the Sunnah of Prophet (SAW) is enough for many of us, we don't need to find 'logic' and explanations that why it is good or bad.

    I can understand you, you are the same kind of creeps who when given an inch will jump to occupy a kilometer

    today you find having a beard 'illogical' ..when we give up on that, tomorrow you will start objecting on other Sunnah