I moved to USA about 17 years back and hence was relatively out of touch with the developments in Pakistan. Therefore it was not only abysmal but rather surprising to see Zaid Zaman now Zaid Hamid (I am not sure what is he up to or why did he change his name) portrayed as a scholar, a defense analyst, a nationalist and may be someone who can lead our nation in the future. I think the last time I met Zaid was when he attended my wedding ceremony along with few other of his very close friends. All of his associates who attended the ceremony were the followers of a “Peer” named Yusuf. There I came to know that Zaid was not only the devotee but in essence one of the top followers of this “Peer” Mr. Yusuf, an ex army officer with quite a bit of following among youngsters. Later I came to know that this Peer was arrested as he claimed himself to be a prophet.
I met Zaid Zaman first when we went for a debate competition arranged by Pakistan Airforce in Risalpur representing Adamjee Science College. I do not want to comment much about my first impression but it was of course not very pleasant and positive. Then onwards being a debater, I visited Zaid’s academic institution the NED University frequently for different Students Union Programs. At that point Afghan jihad had a great impact on the lives of Pakistani nation. I remember all this not because it was too obvious, but in essence was too weird to too creepy to see Zaid portraying himself as a fighter in a battle field or may be dramatizing his actions as much as if he was acting in a movie scene. Hence I always felt that Zaid had some kind of mental instability. And now being a physician in USA for 17 years, we call some one demonstrating these symptoms as a Bipolar with Manic Disorder type, where one thinks himself as a redeemer, a savior and some one who possess grandiose personality.
What made me write this letter is not that I have any thing against Zaid Zaman, but since he could be another leader in the making in Pakistan, hence I felt it to be my responsibility and obligation to let people know about him. This is the least I could do to my beloved homeland. Pakistani nation has already been deceived and betrayed repeatedly by their leaders in the past. It breaks my heart to see they end up making another disastrous mistake. And once again become victim of prevarication and fiddling. Mr. Zaid Zaman is a devotee of a liar, follower of a claimer of false prophecy and an unstable person. My dear friends this is the age of technology and multimedia resources, like a true believer do not get bitten by the same hole twice. Take your time and use all the possible resources before you start delegating some one as your leader!! Now of course it is up to every individual to decide what do they want to do!!
Mohsin Ansari MD FAAP,
Medical Director,
Clinical faculty
University of Maryland School of Medicine
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297 responses to “Zaid Hamid, a Leader in the making! Would be a nightmare”
farrahshah says: – February 3, 2010 at 10:05 pm – Amir Mughal …Quran is to confirm the presence of Allah and His Books and His Prophets (PBUH) and the Shariat code. I do not see if I say I am Muslim and I have facination to the glorious past of Muslim rulers in India,Spain and Arab world I have to prove it through Quran.
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Dear Ms. Farrah,
I was asking for Quranic/Hadith Refetrence for Nation State Nationalism in the context of Pakistani Nationalism because you had talked of Islam. Late. Mawlana Hussein Ahmad Madni [Head of Darul Uloom Deoband] had declared before partition that Hindus and Muslims [Indians] are one nation.
From an Indian Muslim Newspaper:
The 'United Nationalism' of Maulana Madni – i By Yoginder Sikand Dated Published in the 1-15 Aug 2004 print edition of MG
http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/2004/01-15Au…
The ‘United Nationalism’ of Maulana Madni-ii By Yoginder Sikand Dated Published in the 16-31 Aug 2004 print edition of MG
http://www.milligazette.com/Archives/2004/16-31Au…
On the other hand, Zaid Hamids comes on screen and tells us that the Head Quarter of Baluchistan Liberation Army is in Tel-Aviv. So, how do we go about verifying this ? [ALE Xpressed says: February 3, 2010 at 11:24 pm]
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And Conveniently forget this:)
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Charlie Wilson’s War http://www.amazon.com/Charlie-Wilsons-War-Extraor… by George Crile during the so-called Afghan Jihad following things did happen;
He told Zia about his experience the previous year when the Israelis had shown him the vast stores of Soviet weapons they had captured from the PLO in Lebanon. The weapons were perfect for the Mujahideen, he told Zia. If Wilson could convince the CIA to buy them, would Zia have any problems passing them on to the Afghans? Zia, ever the pragmatist, smiled on the proposal, adding, Just don’t put any Stars of David on the boxes {Page 131-132}.
U.S. Jewish leader Rosen visits Pakistan to support Musharraf By Marc Perelman, Jewish Daily Forward http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/928287.html dated Last update – 21:02 26/11/2007
The worst out of the worse which has happened with our national mindset that even after such miserable performance in many areas we still think we are the "Chosen Ones".
People like Zaid and other ISI mouthpieces use this false sense and exploit it.
We need to expect good and work for good but shouldn't live in illusions.
If we want to be a great nation then we need to be great on merit not on slogans and stories.
As far as Ghazwa e hind is concerned .
Ghazwa are battles in which Prophet (SAW) himself took part so how can it be possible after Prophet (SAW).
Many believe either the ahadith are zaeed or even if they are authentic and Ghazwa means "Wars" the prophecy was fulfilled during Muhammad Bin Qasim time.
How can an Army selling women and children to foreign powers be considered as a so called "Chosen Army"?
Faisal,
These Hadiths of Ghazawa-e-Hind is narrated by Hazrat Thuban [May Allah be pleased with him] in Sunnan Nisa'i Chapter Ghazwatul Hind] wherein Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] had said
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"Muslims would wage a Jihad in Hind and if it happens in my [PBUH] life then I [PBUH] will spent my [PBUH] life and money and I [PBUH] am martyred then I will be "Chief of Martyr" and If I return alive then I will be like Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] who is free from Hell [Yaani Abu Huraira ko Jannat Ki Basharat thi]
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All narrators in the chain of narration are truthful [in Arabic Term for Hadith Narrator is "Thiqqa and Saduq"] but one narrator's background is unknown "Majhool ul Hal" and his name was Abu Bakar Al Zubaidi. [Al Taqreeb by Asqalani, Al Kashif by Imam Zahbi, Sahih Jameh As Sagher by Albani with the reference of Musnad Ahmed, and Imam Muqdasi's Zia Mukhtara]
Read two comment wherein I have quote Haifz Ibn-e-Kathir and his commentary on this Hadith to clear the confusion.
Note: Any mistake in literal translation would be unintentional and regretted, if I am wrong somewhere please correct me.
Best Regards.
@faisal!
kindly read the research of Dr.Prof. Asmatullah of International university Islam Abad in which he discussed the Ahadith about ghazwa e hind.it will give you the satisfactory answer.Also it tells why the ghazwa e hind is called Ghazwa….Unfortunately Amir mughal opposes every aspect of islam which could create a political motivation.
follow the following link. its a must read work about ahadith e ghazwa e hind.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14792666/Gazwa-e-Hind
Naked propaganda. He is a true patriot.
Two years ago Zaid Hamid in one of his program "Ghazi" on NEWSONE/TV ONE was quoting History to justify his Theories. Now read as to how this Islamic History was compiled and how Traditionalist Religious Scholars view "History"
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Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari: “I am writing this book as I hear from the narrators. If anything sounds absurd, I should not be blamed or held accountable. The responsibility of all errors or blunders rests squarely on the shoulders of those who have narrated these stories to me.” Tabari's Tareekhil Umam Wal Mulook (The History of Nations and Kings) popularly called "Mother of All Histories" is the first ever "History of Islam" written by 'Imam' Tabari (839-923 CE) at the junction of the third and fourth century AH. He died in 310 AH. [Preface of Tareekhil Umam Wal Mulook (The History of Nations and Kings) by Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari.]
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Ahmed Bin Hanbal, Islamic History and Zaid Hamid's Lecture through Islamic History.
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Ahmed Bin Hanbal says:Three kinds of books are absolutely unfounded, Maghazi, Malahem and Tafseer.” (The exalted Prophet's Battles, Dreams and Prophecies, and Expositions of the Qur’an). [Ahmed Bin Hanbal as quoted by ibn Rajab al-Hanbali in Dhayl Tabaqat al-Hanabila (Appendage to the Encyclopedia of Hanbali Scholars)]
Hafiz Ibn Kathir says: Had Ibn Jareer Tabari not recorded the strange reports, I would never have done so. [Tafseer Ibn Katheer (Commentary on Quran) and Al Bidaya Wal Nihaya (History – From Start to End)]
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Ibn Khaldun, House of Shah Waliullah, History and Lies of Zaid Hamid through Lecture of History.
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Ibn Khaldun says: The Muslim historians have made a mockery of history by filling it with fabrications and senseless lies. (Muqaddama Ibn Khaldun)
Shah Abdul Aziz Dehelvi says: Six pages of Ibn Khaldoon's History have been deliberately removed since the earliest times. These pages had questioned the most critical juncture of Islamic history i.e. the Emirate of Yazeed and the fiction of Karbala. [Even the modern editions admit in the side-notes that those pages have been mysteriously missing from the ancient original book. [Tohfa Ithna Ashri by Shah Abdul Aziz Dehelvi]
Shah Waliullah Dehelvi says: Imam Jalaluddin Sayyuti's Tarikh-ul-Khulafa is the prime example of how our Historians, Muhaddithin and Mufassirin, each has played like Haatib-il-Lail (One who collects firewood at night not knowing which piece is good and which one is bad). [Izalatul Khifa A'N Khilaafatil Khulafaa by Shah Waliullah]
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Zaid Hamid's Lecture through History and Veracity of Islamic Historians:
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Muhammad ibn Ishaq ibn Yasar [Birth:85 AH 704 CE Death: 150-153 AH (767)]
The earliest is Ibn Ishaq's Sira, his biography of the Prophet. It is also the longest and the most widely quoted. Later historians draw, and in most cases depend on him. [Uyun al-athar, I, 7, Ibn Sayyid al-Nas (d. 734A.H.)
A contemporary of Ibn Ishaq, Imam Malik [d 179 AH], the jurist, denounces Ibn Ishaq outright as "a liar" and "an impostor" just for transmitting such stories. [`Uyun al-athar, I and ibid, I, 16].
It must be remembered that historians and authors of the Prophet's biography did not apply the strict rules of the "traditionists". They did not always provide a chain of authorities, each of whom had to be verified as trustworthy and as certain or likely to have transmitted his report directly from his informant, and so on. The attitude towards biographical details and towards the early events of Islam was far less meticulous than their attitude to the Prophet's traditions, or indeed to any material relevant to jurisprudence. The attitude of scholars and historians to Ibn lshaq's version of the stories has been either one of complacency, sometimes mingled with uncertainty, or at least in two important cases, one of condemnatlon and outright rejection.
The complacent attitude is one of accepting the biography of the Prophet and the stories of the campaigns at they were received by later generations without the meticulous care or the application of the critical criteria which collectors of traditions or jurists employed. It was not necessary to check the veracity of authorities when transmitting or recording parts of the story of the Prophet's life.[Ibn Sayyid al-Nas (op. cit., I, 121)]
It was not essential to provide a continuous chain of authorities or even to give authorities at all. That is obvious in Ibn Ishaq's Sira. On the other hand reliable authority and a continuous line of transmission were essential when law was the issue. That is why Malik the jurist had no regard for Ibn Ishaq. [Kadhdhab and Dajjal min al-dajajila – Liar and Liar amongst Liars]
His contemporary, the early traditionist and jurist Malik, called him unequivocally "a liar" and "an impostor"[Kadhdhab and Dajjal min al-dajajila – Liar and Liar amongst Liars] "who transmits his stories from the Jews".[`Uyun al-athar, I, 16-7 by Ibn Sayyid al-Nas].
In a later age Ibn Hajar Asqalani further explained the point of Malik's condemnation of Ibn Ishaq. Malik, he said,[Tahdhib al-Tahdhib, IX, 45. See also `Uyun al-athar, I, 16-7] condemned Ibn Ishaq because he made a point of seeking out descendants of the Jews of Medina in order to obtain from them accounts of the Prophet's campaigns as handed down by their forefathers. [ibid.]
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Zaid Hamid Kezzab is another gift of corrupt Generals like Musharraf. Their motto in life is to make money and rule people.
If people give-in, in the name of Islam, they use it.
So Zaid Hamid Kezzab, just like his peer Yusuf Kezzab, knows what is the easiest way to sell SNAKE-OIL. Just make durood and the ummat will close its eyes in obedience.
I am sure that he will enter politics, He is just like our politicians, Like they blame others for any disturbance on other nation he also blames Zionist, India, Israel or US.
if a child his born in his house he will first say its the handy work of Zionist, India, Israel or US. That is what the politician are doing instead seeing on there weakness they just point the finger towards other.He just says what people want to hear that all the bad things are happening because of other nation or other religion.
I like to see his brass attack its even funnier than Laughter challenge.he can become a very good story writer just listen to the history he says its really funny.
There is a saying if listeners or fool you can say that even a elephant flies.
Imagine if he becomes our Etral affair minister, Not even Kenya will believe in pakistan if they talk to this person.
Zaid hamid might not have glorious past but we must focus on present,he is a true leader in our future.
Awab, I suggest that this thread should be closed temporarily for a week or two.
I quoted Dr.Mubarak Ali in the context that in Pakistan a lot of confusion has been created with regard to creation of Pakistan that it was wrong .Iqbal was hallucinating and Jinnah was a secular mind GORA SAHAB.
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Ask the population of Pakistan are they against the creation of Pakistan .Do they think it is a mistake.
Do they think our leaders were wrong the answer is no.
For too long PPP has this agenda as well we are friends with India …..shamelessly BENAZIR BHUTTO took a U-turn on the policy of MR BHUTTO, he had aggressive policy towards India. That is what Pakistanis like to see we have not taken dictation from even USA itself who is giving us dollars despite that people have not welcomed Hillary Clinton ?What is India to us a bully neighbour with reference to Kashmir issue and water .
Living peacefully along the borders and respecting each other is the first rule. But has India until today accepted us as free Independent Nation .
That is why we still need two nation theory to pass it on and to remind our future generations it was not for the personal gain of Mr.Jinnah ,he was offered Prime Minister ship of united India,his practice was far better in UK and united India.
Since Benazir the whole mind set of intellectuals is Two Nation theory was a stupid Idea Nation cannot be found on these ideas ….and Kashmir dispute cannot be resolved.
Actually it is the apologetic and reluctant Pak government response to Dehlie which has made Ziad’s programme so famous.
WHY ZAID HAMID IS TARGETTED
Because he has stood up and owned Quaid and Iqbal again and advocates two nation theory which is the base of Pakistan Ideology.
To deface any Nation all one has to do is to make them ashamed of their belongings.
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But I do not agree with Zaid's idea that we should march on Dehlie, neither I see any such thing happening in near future.
I also do not see why we should sympathise with Muslims in India ?It is their own problem with their state .In short I am anti war person.
If in Paksitan we cannot appreciate Iqbal and Quaid and proud of glorious past of Muslims which happens to be our past as well than where else in the world…
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Now what is wrong with having a passion for Pakistan and talking about Pakistan with passion?
This love affair is being re-kindled…and I love it too …I support Pakistan Nationalism, there is nothing wrong with being a proud Muslim, there is nothing wrong with being a proud Pakistani.
If in Zaid programme people think there is an overdose of patriotism than do not watch it .
Secondly when he says he is a Muslim I have no reason to doubt his belief and neither I am concerned what ever he did in his youth. —
People who think he represents army ,he may well be ….Truth is what ever Zaid is saying now public wants to listen to it and supports it ,it means people support Pakistan army what is so disturbing about it .
We need military and strong one…..but we do not need it to run our parliament.
So called liberals of Pakistan and anti Martial Law people are forgetting there is a minute difference …when we are anti Pakistan army it can come under treason …but when we are anti Martial Rule or Military Rule, this is our right as a citizen.
So be anti Martial rule or Military regime but not against Pakistan army.
SILENT MAJORITY OF PAKISTAN …….has got a mouth piece , Ziad Hamid and we can not digest it.
Criticise him ,his programmes but I am surprised yet again the advocates of HUMAN RIGHTS and FREEDOM of EXPRESSION do not want to listen to this voice of Pakistan and many are actually trying to convince people that Zaid was with a blasphemeous person in the past so he should be avenged.
—-Now tell me who is hypocrate ?
Miss what you do in past, it counts…. ask him to clearly state in black & white weather he is proud on his past or not? When he do that, it will make things crystal clear.
hey you people critics of zaid hamid , u people are born in such a controled enviroment that u cant see the truth, new york times and washington post are ur benchmarks not QURAN AND SUNNAH. if a agree for the sake of argument that zaid hamid was a follower of yusafkezzab, dont u the history of khulfa rashdeen all of them spent half of their lives in kufar,
the important thing is today?? in his 700 programes ?? do u people found a single thing against quran and suunaah?
Yeah, what about buhtan against other Muslims? like Hamid Meer?
According to this 'psycho' every one who does not agree with him is RAW and Mossad Agent.
As another poster said earlier
Zaid hamid kezzab sided with Ahmed Shah Masood and he gets assasinated, he sides with yusuf kezzab and he gets murdered..Now he is siding with Pakistan Army…..lets see what happens to Pakistan Army
@hitler qureshi……
that's what we are saying… ask him to clearly state in black & white weather he is proud on his past or not? and as far as khulfa rashdeen are concerned they never feel proud on their past (in kufar) and openly state it. Please ask Mr. Zaid to do the same.
by Sana Saleem on 02 3rd, 2010 @ DAWN Blog
http://blog.dawn.com/2010/02/03/our-source-of-nat…
Our source of national pride
Nationalism is best understood in contrast to patriotism. Patriotism is simply love for one’s country, whereas nationalism is the sense that one’s nation is the best, often because it is more sacred than other nations. For the past few months, ‘Wake Up Pakistan’ – a campaign targeting this country’s youth – has been making waves both in the mainstream and social media.
The campaign aims to bring about an ideological revolution in Pakistan:
Pakistan today is in the eyes of the world, what we do and what we don’t will decide the future of Pakistan and the generations to come. We face internal and external threats which are shaking the very foundations of our motherland. Never before were we in such a dilemma, never before did our soil need us more and never before were we called upon to unite. We are not afraid but we are in danger. We have to WAKE UP!
The youth-oriented campaign promises to revive the ideology of the Quaid-e-Azam and Allama Iqbal. Spearheaded by Zaid Hamid, and supported by fashion designer Maria B and popular rock-star Ali Azmat, the country-wide campaign has comprised lectures at various educational institutes and has gathered quite a fan following.
Hamid’s official fan page left me stunned, and not only because he has a striking 24,682 fans online. What’s really shocking is Hamid’s irresponsibility in the face of his popularity and broad-based access to Pakistani youth.
The latest update on the page reads: ”Inshallah one day you will hear this………’This is radio pakistan from New delhi’.” Even more startling is the fact that Hamid’s fantasies of invading a neighbouring country were received with messages from young Pakistanis such as “Inshallah” and “we are eagerly waiting for that time!” Such statements contradict Hamid’s claims of reviving the ideology of Jinnah and Iqbal. Indeed, his anti-India stance makes the Wake Up Pakistan campaign delusional, provocative, and downright demagogical.
Let me clarify that this post isn’t about bashing Hamid and his ideologies. It’s an effort to question and decipher his ‘promised prophecies.’ After all, this campaign targets the youth and so I reserve the right to question its goals. I understand that the campaign is about “creating awareness and exposing conspiracies.” But I fail to understand how derogatory remarks about a neighbouring country will help ‘revive’ the youth. I am afraid fantasising about invasions will not solve our problems, and will instead shift focus from our internal conflicts. More dangerously, preaching such ideologies is bound to promote intolerance, which is anathema to a free, functioning, and democratic society.
No doubt, Hamid is capable of remarkable oratory, and is almost hypnotising if you prefer an ego massage to a reality check. For example, a friend’s Facebook status recently read :
You’re the best people; you’re the chosen land; you’re destined to play very special part in God’s plans says Zaid Hamid. Rings a bell? Actually it does ring a bell for its striking resemblance to the beliefs of the ever-so notorious Hitler.
Now, I am not suggesting that Hamid has similar plans. But I do believe that his rhetoric and the Wake Up Pakistan campaign are imparting the same sense of ‘race purity’ to this country’s youth. In fact, such discourse provides a breeding ground for far-right views and commonplace racism.
A precise look at our history will tell us how the religion and race card have been used singularly and in collaboration to distort mindsets and rationalise injustice. Whether it’s justifying dictatorship in the name of religion or promoting conspiracy theories to justify our shortcomings, we have seen it all. The new phenomenon of invoking ‘race purity’ to inspire hope is as dangerous as the trends that have come before. Resulting nationalistic pride, meanwhile, overlooks the deficiencies of our country and its people, while stirring contempt for the virtues of other countries.
For that reason, I am gravely concerned about the majority choice to seek ‘national pride’ in the idea of waging war. In reality, Hamid is doing nothing more than saying what most of us want to believe: our problems are the world’s fault. We are not responsible; they are. This strategy, of course, amounts to nothing more than scapegoating. The right to defend ourselves must never accompany denial of responsibility of our actions.
I fear that the Wake Up Pakistan campaign will promote intolerance and divert attention from our real issues. It is fair to expose foreign involvements in the country’s internal affairs. But at the same time we must understand the nature of such involvements. Tall claims about ‘foreign hands’ rarely include the acknowledgment that interference occurs because it is opportune.
Opportunities arise as a result of our neglect and failure to come to terms with ground realities. They can only be eliminated if we focus on solving some of our most common problems. If we are so capable that we can dream of taking over and governing a billion more people, why don’t we begin at home to improve the literacy rate, provide healthcare, resolve our economic, and socio-political issues? Without answering this simple question, Hamid risks raising an army of youth who are rabid, intolerant, and belaboured by delusions of grandeur, and yet unwilling to tackle Pakistan’s most pressing but absolutely solvable problems.
To be able to foresee our future, we first need to determine our role in the present. If there is a need for an ideological revolution, let it be about realising and rehabilitating the mistakes of our past. Pakistan should wake up, but not to a new dawn of racism and bigotry.
(Courtesy Sana Saleem)
@Tayyab Mahmood
Thank you for posting the above from the Dawn Blog.
Now I would request people to visit this Dawn Blog page and go through comments …
so all I am saying is maybe Zaid is OTT in his dose of Patriotism
and tell me if I am wrong in my perception that it is India infact which cannot withstand Zaid Hamid….and they have launched this campaign against him.
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But let me say ….Teeth maestro had a post before Zaid was NOTORIOUSLY FAMOUS in India and yes I do accept fair criticism from Pakistani circles.
Mohsin Ansari MD FAAP,
Medical Director,
Clinical faculty
University of Maryland School of Medicine
You are WRONG and see only dollars in your left right, because your knowledge is only for your self as amercans can see only look your justic system , money system all systum is runing by jews , when your own real family goes with jewsboys then you says that he is right.
Hope you can do some thing for pakistan, God also give you heqmet may it help our people.
Khan bhaijan u spoke like a true khan here.. i understand that your fury is correct at one point but being judgemental is just completely wrong. Dr.Ansari just pointed out what he felt wrong and what is wrong in that?
Dude,he allegations that you have put forward are nothing but a figment of your own imagination. Let us be honest here, having seen Dr.Ansari active in various activities of pakistan i wouldnt claim anything that you have just quoted. If he had been a person who sits back at his comfy chair and made comments on the current political scenarios of pakistan then im sorry he wouldnt have been one of the top leader of major islamic movement and also a charity organization who are consistently involved in the delvelopment and well being of Muslmims in US and outside. Furthermore, i have witnessed Dr.Ansari's consisent lectures in Karachi where he passes on his education to the doctors of Pakistan.
Just because he does not have a cable channel giving him coverage 3 hours a week and the fame as the likes of Zaid hamid that does not make him overshadowed or anything as such. I have nothing personal against anyone, zaid hamid or his fans but apparently a source that had been so close to Zaid cannot be just simply ignored.
Zaid Hamid [a refined and pious version] – Tahir Ul Qadri Dancers reply – Tahir ul Qadri Lovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMiM6OEoni0
Mr. Mohsin Insari,
Your citation comes at the perfect time when a cult is in the making with youngsters, lost as to what to follow or where to go, are flocking to this guy named Zaid Hamid who's but pushing them further along the delusion being fed by a twisted history and rhetoric bullshit.
Its time we exposed this crap so that it could be countered before it becomes the sort of zealous cults we've been experiencing in the past.
Awab, Naufil, Abidullah Jan, Kashif Hafeez, Dr Faiyaz, Talkhaba and many others have been warning the youth against this psycho and his cult for the last 2 years. ZZH denied having any link with Yusuf Kazzab altogether and refused to recognize anyone personally who exposed his past. Then after the proofs were posted on the internet and Maulana Saeed Jalalpuri wrote a booklet against him, ZZH now invites people to come to his office to know the "truth" – where he praises Yusuf Kazzab as a great sufi and religious leader who according to him was implicated in a false case by Khabrain's editor. Lies, damns lies again. I know each and every person who filed the case against Yusuf Kazzab. None of them have had ever met the Khabrain's editor. The prime role was played by Dr Aslam Malik Saheb, a retd commodore in Pak Navy's medical corp, who was a personal friend of Zaid's father, Col (retd) Zaman Hamid. Zaid brought Yusuf Kazzab to his home first in Karachi and started a "Quran class" in 1994. The court judegement against the Kazzab was based on his own chutiya statements claiming that he was ordained with the "niabat" of the Prophet by God himself when his dotmatrix printer started printing on its own (while the computer was switched off) and when he saw what was being printed it was a message from God. The families of the several women whom he hypnotised for his lust, calling them "Nabi ki dulhan" (ma'azallah!) still aren't able to forget that nightmare. I personally know a lady doctor who was hypnotised by that freak prophet of Zaid Hamid and who slept with him for 2 years leaving her husband behind. Her poor husband was also a mureed of that Kazzab and was unable to even think what was being done to them as his mind was in total control of the Kazzab. Zaid is personally responsible for all this evil and inshallah, summa inshallah he will burn in the deepest part of Hell for what he has done to the several families affected by the lust of Yusuf Kazzab.
Dr Mohsin Ansari is well known to Zaid Hamid and this disclosure counts a lot. Now let's wait for Zaid to claim that Ansari is an agent of RAW, Mossad, CIA, etc, etc and he won't be distracted from his "sacred" mission to "lick the ass of the army" and fulfill his cult's distorted ghazwa-e-hind prophecy.
When i started shouting all over internet that ZAID HAMID and AHMED QURESHI are ISI mouthpieces over internet people would call me stupid and this and that . . .
Ahh !! finally
We are waking . . .
Pino with Zaid Hamid – 4ManShow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKDEfYe33_0&fe…
Pino With Zaid Hamid 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=362ORZhXJyg&fe…
Pino With Zaid Hamid 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvAb30sxa2Y&fe…
Pino With Zaid Hamid 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spz-GtxHP64&fe…
dr jawwad khan says: – February 6, 2010 at 1:36 am Also it tells why the ghazwa e hind is called Ghazwa….Unfortunately Amir mughal opposes every aspect of islam which could create a political motivation.
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Earlier you were saying that I denied a Sahih Hadith [which I didn't] and now you are telling that I am opposing every aspect of Islam which could create a Political Motivation whereas in your own message earlier you had denied that there wasn't a single army in Islam which would have waged Jihad
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dr jawwad khan says: – February 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm – what a rush….this issue is so hot. – @Amir Mughal!!! – No muslim army attacked india for the sake of jihad…most of the time these invasions were organized just to increase the area of their kingdoms. – Are you denying a sahih Hadith?
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The book could be Mr Asmatullah's personal opinion not a religious binding to on us to follow him. By the way in your earlier statement above you yourself are denying Hadith and read your statement in the light of your own posted book. By the way Mr Asmatullah has repeated Hadith in questions which I already have mentioned [read the book again] by the way Imam Nisa'ai didn't comment on that Hadith and Hafiz Ibn-e-Kathir's opinion is far more acceptable and close to the truth.
Best Regards.
Please don't be too quick to declare anybody "a opponent of Islami" [in this case me] who oppose with your point of view and read your Fatwa that I am opposing Islam in the Light of this: [Opponent of Islam means Disbeliever and Hypocrite and by the Grace of Allah I am a Muslim not pious like you but a mortal and sinner Muslim]
Whoever offers prayers as we do and turns his face to our Qiblah and eats the animal slaughtered by us, he is a Muslim for whom is the covenant of Allah and the covenant of the Messenger of Allah; so do not violate Allah’s covenant.” [Sahih Bukhari]
“Ibn Umar related that the Holy Prophet said: If a Muslim calls another kafir, then if he is a kafir let it be so; otherwise, he [the caller] is himself a kafir.”(Sunnan Abu Dawood)
“Abu Zarr reported that the Holy Prophet said: No man accuses another man of being a sinner, or of being a kafir, but it reflects back on him if the other is not as he called him.”(Bukhari)
“Withhold [your tongues] from those who say `There is no god but Allah’ — do not call them kafir. Whoever calls a reciter of `There is no god but Allah’ as a kafir, is nearer to being a kafir himself.” (Tabarani, reported from Abdullah Ibn Omar)
If the above Hadiths do not satisfy then read this!
Usaamah bin Zaid reported,
“Allaah’s Messenger sent us towards Al-Huruqa, and in the morning we attacked them and defeated them. I and an Ansari man followed a man from among them and when we overwhelmed him, he said, “La ilaha illal-Lah.” On hearing that, the Ansari man stopped, but I killed him by stabbing him with my spear. When we returned, the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) came to know about that and he said: “O Usaamah! Did you kill him after he had said “La ilaha ilal-Lah?” I said, “But he said so only to save himself.” He kept on repeating that so often that I wished I had not embraced Islaam before that day. [Agreed upon, and this is the wording of Bukhari]
and in another version in Sahih Muslim about the same incident:
“Did you tear open his heart to see what was in it?” [Muslim]
dr jawwad khan says: – February 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm – what a rush….this issue is so hot. – @Amir Mughal!!! – No muslim army attacked india for the sake of jihad…most of the time these invasions were organized just to increase the area of their kingdoms. – Are you denying a sahih Hadith?
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
If I am denying Hadith then your Fatwa is also applied on them and you live there [in Jeddah Saudi Arabia i.e as per your own profile] so leave them and come back and lead the Regiment on India:
INDIA-SAUDI RELATIONS: Jamat-e-Islami, Qazi Hussain Ahmed, & SAUDI-INDIA TIES http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/05/jamat-e-…
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
You quoting a Book and I am quoting directly that book/books and by the way Mr Asmatullah cleanly "Forgotten" the Hadith of Constantinople [Bukhari] wherein Hazrat Muawiya [May Allah be pleased with] was given the glad tiding of Jannah [Paradise] by Prophet Mohammad [PBUH].
dr jawwad khan says: – February 6, 2010 at 1:36 am – Unfortunately Amir mughal opposes every aspect of islam which could create a political motivation.
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Wrong again because I have a firm belief that Islam and Muslims will prevail but for that we would have to follow this [now go and read the detailed interpretation of this verse] – for me this text is more than enough to ponder and do good.
وَعَدَ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مِنكُمْ وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ لَيَسْتَخْلِفَنَّهُم فِي الْأَرْضِ كَمَا اسْتَخْلَفَ الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِهِمْ وَلَيُمَكِّنَنَّ لَهُمْ دِينَهُمُ الَّذِي ارْتَضَى لَهُمْ وَلَيُبَدِّلَنَّهُم مِّن بَعْدِ خَوْفِهِمْ أَمْنًا يَعْبُدُونَنِي لَا يُشْرِكُونَ بِي شَيْئًا وَمَن كَفَرَ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ فَأُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الْفَاسِقُونَ
Allah hath promised such of you as believe and do good work that He will surely make them to succeed (the present rulers) in the earth even as He caused those who were before them to succeed (others); and that He will surely establish for them their religion which He hath approved for them, and will give them in exchange safety after their fear. They serve Me. They ascribe no thing as partner unto Me. Those who disbelieve henceforth, they are the miscreants. [AL-NOOR (THE LIGHT) Chapter 24 – Verse 55]
For further references:
المملكة العربية السعودية
وزارة الشؤون الإسلامية والأوقاف والدعوة والإرشاد
http://www.al-islam.com/arb/
http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Displ
Here is Sheikh Muhammad Akram Awan of Ghazwa-e-Hind and his website: http://www.naqshbandiaowaisiah.com/index.html http://www.ghazwatulhind.com/
Not in the first URL that there is Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] is pasted on the left side of the website [Copy of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)'s Seal is engraved] Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] had stopped us to remake that seal [Bukhari].
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I wonder since when you have become the Sufi of Naqshabandi Owais Order???? Can he prove Sufism through Quran and Hadith because the word itself a Bida'at [Innovation] and appeared 2 centuries after the death of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH].
شيخ المکرم امير محمد اکرم اعوان
Shaikh Silsilah Naqshbandiah Owaisiah
http://owaisiah.com/
Dr. Ansari are you a pediatrician or a psycholotgist or a psychiatrist?
i seek refuge from Allah(swt) intentionaly saying any thing wrong against the meaning of AllaH(swt) and Nabi e Kareem(saw). However i made mistake in couple of times in the state of extreme exertion and i ask forgiveness from Allah(swt) and i hope He will forgive me because my intention was not bad or evil….
i am not like you who say that “painting the mosque with red or saffron is prohibited in hadith”.remember!!!
take it easy man.cheer up.hanso tumhen “GOEBBELS” ki qasam
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I had given you the references of Bukhari on Red Color Mosque and Nisa'ai and Tirmidhi and many other books of Hadith have forbidden Muslims to use Saffron Color because that Color was and is still associated with Idolaters and Polytheists.
LoLzz…
No amir mughal sahib, i am not so quick in forming my opinions. since 1 year i am reading your posts and my careful opinion is that you don't like political aspects of islam.
Best regards
(dr awab say maazrat kay saath…..again the valuable work on "ahadith e ghazwa e hind"
GHAZWA E HIND
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14792666/Gazwa-e-Hind
dr jawwad khan says: – February 6, 2010 at 11:58 am LoLzz…
No amir mughal sahib, i am not so quick in forming my opinions. since 1 year i am reading your posts and my careful opinion.
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Your opinion is wrong because your don't read carefully nor do you write carefully and let me give a few example:
"QUOTE"
dr jawwad khan says: – November 1, 2009 at 12:41 am SURA 8(TAUBA) DESCENDED IN 9TH HIJRI….AFTER CONQUEST OF MAKKAH WHEN MUSLIMS ARE IN POWERFULL CONDITION AND THEY WERE ABOUT TO CROSS THE ARABIAN PENNISULA TO FIGHT WITH ROMAN AND PERSIAN EMPIRE. you should be ashamed of lying about Quran e Kareem. like teacher(son of a bitch) like follower(pseudo muslim moderates) SURA TAUBA WAS LAST IN THE ORDER OF DESCEND. – is that you don’t like political aspects of islam.
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My reply was this:
Aamir Mughal says:
November 1, 2009 at 12:50 am – Dear Jawwad Sahab, Instead of bad mouthing you should first raed Quran to learn that Chapter number 8 is AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY) not Sura Tawba as you have wrongly misquoted me above with lot of bad mouthing. May Allah help us in controlling our rage. And you should see before you write that you are raising false allegation. I had said and written Sura Anfal – Chapter 8 not not Surah Tawba – Chapter 9.
From the thread – The Blasphemy Law: An Objective Assessment from Religious, Legal & Social Perspectives Posted by Teeth Maestro October 20, 2009
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Another example of your careful reading and hurling rampant Fatwa against who differ with you is as under in the light of your own statement:
"QUOTE"
My Statement was – Aamir Mughal says: January 30, 2010 at 12:49 pm
الْبَيِّنَةُ عَلَى الْمُدَّعِى وَالْيَمِينُ عَلَى الْمُدَّعَى عَلَيْهِ
The burden of proof is upon the plaintiff, and the oath is upon the one who is accused (Tirmidhi)
"UNQUOTE"
and your relpy "careful" reading!
"QUOTE"
The Aaya Mubarika you quoted is not applicable here becuase it decides the judicial principal in case of problem between two individuals of muslims society… [jawwad khan says: January 30, 2010 at 1:51 pm]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
I haven’t quoted the Quranic Verse but Hadith of Tirmidhi. Please go and read the Law of Witness in Islam. [Aamir Mughal says: January 30, 2010 at 4:23 pm]
"UNQUOTE"
Best Regards
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
This was the thread: Jahil Online Spreading Superstitions
Posted by Teeth MaestroJanuary 30, 2010
I had given you the references of Bukhari on Red Color Mosque and Nisa’ai and Tirmidhi and many other books of Hadith have forbidden Muslims to use Saffron Color because that Color was and is still associated with Idolaters and Polytheists.
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give me again.
i don't think you did…..but that was not my point. my point was that there is no such hadith which could forbid us painting the mosque from any color….and despite accepting your mistake you started your typical mumbo jumbo.
I stand by my statement and I don't lie in Islam's name and I always check what I post and type unlike you who without bothering to even check what is being written and too quick to Issue Fatwa against anybody when anyone differ with your point of View.
if you are true then what you make of this:
http://picasaweb.google.com/dr.jawwadkhan/ProhetS…
I have been to Saudi Arabia and I know these mosques and these are not of Saffron Color and even if they have the saffron or Green colour then Proof [Hujjat] is not somebody’s act but what is written in Quran and Authentic, Checked and Verified Hadith.
It is just sad that Pakistani youth is stuck between Ultra-nationalist morons like ZH and Western-boot-licking NFP (Dawn). I have no idea where this nation will end up!
I can sit here and claim that "Mohsin Ansari", the author of this article, attended my wedding fifteen years ago but back then, he was a con man who tried to swindle me out of some money. This isn't true, but such is the anonymity of the Internet – Anyone can claim anything. I don't know who this "Mohsin Ansari" is for sure, and I don't know the accuracy of his claims.
All I can do is, I can look at the things a person says, and judge based on that. And "Mohsin Ansari" claims some absurd things. First he tries to make it look like Zaid Hamid changed his name from "Zaid Zaman", and he tries to make it look sinister. In reality, Zaid Hamid has been using "Zaman" as his middle name ever since he's been coming on tv. His brassTacks Direct newsletter often had his name signed as "Zaid Zaman Hamid". Infact, some of the documents his analysis firm came up with ten years ago, also had "Zaman" written as his middle name.
The author also claims that he is a medical doctor, and his medical opinion is that Zaid Hamid has Bipolar Disorder. I guess flaunting some seemingly technical psych mumbo jumbo that many people might have heard of but has no idea what it actually is, like Bipolar Disorder, gives one an air of authority on the matter. In reality, Bipolar Disorder is characterized by bouts of severe depression. I have never seen Zaid Hamid depressed, call him a nut or whatever, but his message is one that tries to find hope even when the country is going through terrible times.
The only way I can judge Zaid Hamid, is also according to what he's said. I can't find out for sure what's in his heart and whether he's sincere or whatever. I've been following his tv shows for the past three years, and never, not once, have I ever heard him say anything that was even remotely a kharji/non-mainstream Islam concept. That still doesn't mean his past is clear, but I find his version more believable than the versions of all these anonymous people yapping about on the Internet. Because it seems to me that these anonymous people have an agenda.
It is strange that these days, all of a sudden a whole bunch of multiple sources seem to have propped up, all discussing nothing but Zaid Hamid's past. This article goes up on Teeth Maestro's blog, around the same time, stuff about Zaid Hamid's past goes up on Dawn News' Blogs, and this seems like a hotly debated topic on a number of blogs on bloggers.pk. I find this rather strange and suspicious. Independant sources should not prop up the same topic at the same time, unless they're having their agenda fed to them.
All the same, I'll keep watching Zaid Hamid from time to time, his message is one that seems to inspire alot of Pakistanis. I'll also keep an eye out and if any of the anti-Zaid Hamid stuff starts making even remotely any sense, then I'll buy it.
Anyone can claim anything. I don’t know who this “Mohsin .Ansari” is for sure, and I don’t know the accuracy of his claims
No brainer, if u are close to Zaid Hamid, Just ask him , he will tell you.
The author also claims that he is a medical doctor, and his medical opinion is that Zaid Hamid has Bipolar Disorder. I guess flaunting some seemingly technical psych mumbo jumbo that many people might have heard of but has no idea what it actually is, like Bipolar Disorder, gives one an air of authority on the matter. In reality, Bipolar Disorder is characterized by bouts of severe depression. I have never seen Zaid Hamid depressed, call him a nut or whatever, but his message is one that tries to find hope even when the country is going through terrible times.
Little knowledge is a perilous and dangerous thing, please read my diagnosis and read about it, U will have the answers,
It is always a good idea to google some one before u confront him, particularly someone who has published articles and has academic affiliations
Zaid Hamid Kezzab is not a leader in making, He is a PIMP already made.
He accuses of others of takfeer, but then he terms others Muslims as Kafir, for example Hamid Mir.
How can he explain the *shahadat* of 3 US soldiers in operation Rah-e-Nijat?
Any one who seriously opposes US, ends up dead on on Guantanamo…THIS SOB is still alive and well fed. So who is really paying his pay-checks???
He quotes ahadith as if Pakistan Army is the one that will rise with black banners from Khurasan…..well he stretched Khurasan from Afghanistan to all the way to Rawalpindi, just to include GHQ.
He sided with Ahmed Shah Masood and Ahmed Shah Masood Got assisinated. He became follower of Yusuf Kezzab and he got murdered. Now he is siding with Pakistan Army….looks like bad times for Pakistan Army started already
Zaid Hamid is probably a mouth piece of Pakistani Army. Who is trying to rejuvenate "Pakistani Nationalism" rather than "ISLAM". But then again who do we see that in Pakistan without having any interests or any hidden agendas and Succeeding?
Well…
I don’t know this guy Zaid Hamid personaly. But one thing I’m sure about is that when he was known as Zaid Hamid. He brought that famouse case of his peer Yousaf to my father to fight from his side. And claimed that Yousaf was an innocent guy and misunderstood by people.
If he doesn’t has the courage to admit this truth, and that he was in the front line fellowship of peer Yoasuf… how come he can be truthful in after said claims?
His public image and personality seams so fake
Well…
I don’t know this guy Zaid Hamid personaly. But one thing I’m sure about is that when he was known as Zaid Zaman Hamid. He brought that famouse case of his peer Yousaf to my father to fight from his side. And claimed that Yousaf was an innocent guy and misunderstood by people.
If he doesn’t has the courage to admit this truth, and that he was in the front line fellowship of peer Yoasuf… how come he can be truthful in after said claims?
His public image and personality seams so fake
Its a propaganda against him… where the hell was Mr.XYZ(Mohsin Ansari) two years ago?? y he didnt claim anything like this b4?? He might 've been waiting to see Zaid gettign popular?? or he wasnt aware of whts happning in Pakistan?? Thanks Mr.XYZ(Mohsin)..who ever u are(a fake aurthor from Paki-american gov.)
I even dnt care where the hell u come from. America n our puppet gov. knows zaid hamid is a true patriot, ppl r supporting him & now they find him a real danger for them. who ever he was.. & wht ever he did.. dznt mattrs… its all about wht he is doing now. He's on a right path now.. hes a true patriot a real Mujahid.. atleast not a pussy cat like this fake Aurthor.
Instead of wasting ur energies on criticizing Zaid Hamid.. go criticise n stand up against ur own Pro American gov. if u've the BALLS..
May Allah forgive Zaid on his deeds & forgive us all, & guide us to the right path. Pakistan Zindabad!!
Chal bay chutiyay!!
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hahahahahhahaha.this is so far the best line in this forum.
@Emran H.
Chal bay chutiyay!!
http://aacounterterror.wordpress.com/section-4-wh…
See also:
http://hazratzaidhamid.blogspot.com/2009/10/sourc…
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23672211/Zaid-Hamid-s-p…
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24857701/Zaid-Hamid-s-P…
http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/homistan/w…
http://blog.ale.com.pk/?p=1124 (the myth of ghazwa-e-hind)
http://blog.dawn.com/2010/02/03/our-source-of-nat…
Moin Ansari,
Unfortunately, you seem to be the one with Bipolar disorder. Your rant is basically what it is: a RANT.
In this piece that you wrote out of your sick mind THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SUBSTANCE except for character assasinations for obvious reasons.
Do you think any sane individual worth his salt will buy your story?
I like Zaid Hamid and I feel he is really impressive but I disagree with him on few points. But, unlike you, I am willing to present a sane argument against Zaid and that too for constructive reasons; not to demean Zaid or attack his movement.
If someone disagrees with his movement, then you express your reservations about it and give your solutions for improvement. I believe his interpretation about Ghazwa-e-hind don't seem to be correct. As it represents the time when Hazrat Eesa(pbuh) comes back to this world. Also Shaikh Naimatullah Wali's prediction about annihilation of Hinduism only seem to happen during Hazrat Eesa's time. Since after his return, majority of the people will know that Islam is really the only religion to follow and all other religions will die their own death. Nonetheless, there is nothing wrong with waking-up Iman among young Pakistanis and motivating them to set their own destiny i.e. demanding the removal of corrupt politicians and finalizing the dream of Pakistan.
If you don't do that, you are simply satisfying your lust for character assasination.
Salams;
This one fact is true….religion is a private matter of the heart….its real essence is the heart….all those self serving mullahs that claim the fantasy notion of "Kilafat" and such other evil oppressive regimes are nothing more than deviling in disguise……Religion was meant to be practiced freely of ones own will and definitely not by force or terror aka Taliban, Iran…….
People such as Zaid Hamid just endorses the fact how these semi mullahs capture the minds of the innocent masses and lead them to oppression to the pit, the pit of the oppressive spider……Iran, Taliban, Ikhwan, all these simmilar aans should be abhorred and opposed by every single Pakistani whether residing here or abroad….
Peace Out….