I moved to USA about 17 years back and hence was relatively out of touch with the developments in Pakistan. Therefore it was not only abysmal but rather surprising to see Zaid Zaman now Zaid Hamid (I am not sure what is he up to or why did he change his name) portrayed as a scholar, a defense analyst, a nationalist and may be someone who can lead our nation in the future. I think the last time I met Zaid was when he attended my wedding ceremony along with few other of his very close friends. All of his associates who attended the ceremony were the followers of a “Peer” named Yusuf. There I came to know that Zaid was not only the devotee but in essence one of the top followers of this “Peer” Mr. Yusuf, an ex army officer with quite a bit of following among youngsters. Later I came to know that this Peer was arrested as he claimed himself to be a prophet.
I met Zaid Zaman first when we went for a debate competition arranged by Pakistan Airforce in Risalpur representing Adamjee Science College. I do not want to comment much about my first impression but it was of course not very pleasant and positive. Then onwards being a debater, I visited Zaid’s academic institution the NED University frequently for different Students Union Programs. At that point Afghan jihad had a great impact on the lives of Pakistani nation. I remember all this not because it was too obvious, but in essence was too weird to too creepy to see Zaid portraying himself as a fighter in a battle field or may be dramatizing his actions as much as if he was acting in a movie scene. Hence I always felt that Zaid had some kind of mental instability. And now being a physician in USA for 17 years, we call some one demonstrating these symptoms as a Bipolar with Manic Disorder type, where one thinks himself as a redeemer, a savior and some one who possess grandiose personality.
What made me write this letter is not that I have any thing against Zaid Zaman, but since he could be another leader in the making in Pakistan, hence I felt it to be my responsibility and obligation to let people know about him. This is the least I could do to my beloved homeland. Pakistani nation has already been deceived and betrayed repeatedly by their leaders in the past. It breaks my heart to see they end up making another disastrous mistake. And once again become victim of prevarication and fiddling. Mr. Zaid Zaman is a devotee of a liar, follower of a claimer of false prophecy and an unstable person. My dear friends this is the age of technology and multimedia resources, like a true believer do not get bitten by the same hole twice. Take your time and use all the possible resources before you start delegating some one as your leader!! Now of course it is up to every individual to decide what do they want to do!!
Mohsin Ansari MD FAAP,
Medical Director,
Clinical faculty
University of Maryland School of Medicine
Comments
297 responses to “Zaid Hamid, a Leader in the making! Would be a nightmare”
Shahzad,
Don't say every single Pakistani will support you. You have been disproved right of the bat. I am a Pakistani and I strongly oppose your thinking.
Like I said People from your school of thought ARE a MINORITY.
It is so unfortunate that you don't utilize your Allah(swt) given faculties. You are blindly following Western ideals and ignorantly opposing Muslims. People like you represent Khilafat as a repressive system without actually finding out how so. These secular fundamentalist have created a negative spectre of Islam for their OWN POLITICAL motives and you, like a fool, dance to their tune.
Khilafat was repressive? How so? Because it stops you from making fun of Holy figures? I ask you:
* Is this the most important issue of the world? Be able to make fun of Holy Figures through drawing cartoon and writing literary books for cheap fame?
* How about removal of poverty from this world? How about elimination of all SECULAR institutions that contribute to this poverty and financial slavery? Why Salman Rushdie doesn't write book on that? Have you EVER found out how IMF works? IMF gives huge loans to poor nation in the name of "infrastructure development". These huge loans are OFTEN imposed on them through military or "democratic" dictators planted by the masters. When these poor nations are not able to make the payments, then taxes are increased, subsidies (tax breaks) are eliminated, and nation's natural resources are DEMANDED at ridiculously low price. Go read "Confession of Economic Hit man" and find out about what was the Amazon Forest conflict.
* How about free medical care?
* How about ensuring that everyone gets one home?
* How about controlling inflation?
* How about allowing women the freedom to wear Hijab?
* How about ensuring that everyone has right to education?
* How about freedom from EXCESSIVE TAXATION?
* How about banning bailing out of Corporations from financial crisis who come to such situation by mismanaging their finances. They pay RIDICULOUSLY high salary and benefits to CEO. Event their severance package is million dollar worth. All this is paid from the pockets of Average citizens who are not EVEN given the right to continue living in this single family home. There house is IMMEDIATELY put on foreclosure because of one missed payment which they couldn't make because they lost their job due to the financial crisis created by these corporations.
* How about saving the human race from extiction by disallowing sexual promiscuity?
And you have the audacity to call Khilafat a repressive system? At least, in Khilafat, everyone had an affordable, home, food, education.
My dear friend Pakistan is not a khilafa but do you see any body making effigy of Holy Prophet PBUH. do you see this in Malaysia or any other civilized states. Please remain calm we have duties of taking care of Parents our loved ones our neghibors our family poors and etc. Allah is will do what is right let him do his job and you do what yours.
You listen to zaid hamid he only complains what India did to us what Israel did to us. Oh baba they can only do if we let them do what they are doing. Mashallah Pakistan is strong and will remain strong if you do what Allah has bestowed upon you to do.
Dont fall in the trap of devil be normal if the time is right we even can hide or escape then we will fight but till then we keep our posture calm as we are muslim and responsible.
How about allowing women the freedom to wear Hijab?
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excellent counter question for liberal jackasses.
As far as Khialfat is considered, I wonder why Farjad said in Khilafat fveryone had an affordable, home, food, education. Khilafat lasted till eihteenth century and it hss its flaws. He should go through all this history. Khilafat is not a divine's rule it was a ruling system.
On the other hand in all muslim countries women has the freedom to wear hijab, in some countries they are forced to wear it even if they are not muslims.Nobody objects this attitude. Then why people always make a hue when some countries, some non muslim countries ban it.
There is something wrong with our thinking too.
Both the supporters of Khilafat or Democracy go out of their way to praise their preferred form of governance. I think that both systems have a potential to delliver "Good Governence", but both have their inherant faults as well.
Taking examples from History, Khilafat dellivered till the first four Caliphs because the sincerity and the personal charracter of these individuals could overcome the inherant faults of the system. Khilafat lasted in one form or another till last century but could not delliver again.
Democracy has been successful in many countries for some tenures but mostly it is found struggling.
I think the way forward is to find out and erradicate the faults of both the systems and I believe that if you remove the faults, there would be no difference left in the two systems. I mean both Khilafat and democracy supporters would then agree on one system.
This is what some people fear as they thrive on hatered, differences and conflict.
dr jawwad khan says: February 24, 2010 at 12:18 pm that is right.Hazrat Hassan’s (ra) 6 months should not be included in monarchy. But this 6 months time is negligible and that time left no positive effects on the institution of khilafat.
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Question is why did Hazrat Hasan [May Allah be pleased with him] surrendered Caliphate to Hazrat Muawiya [RA] which as per you Monarch?
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Question is not why some body accepted or not resisted? question is what was done?
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Hazrat Ali’s third son [Mohammad Bin Hanfiya (May Allah have mercy on his soul)] and Abdullah Ibn Abbas [Cousin of Hazrat Ali and nephew of Prophet Mohammad – PBUH] used to live with Yazid Bin Muawiyah and that too after the incident of Karbala.
in khilafat only selected people of the society has a right to elect the head of state [dr jawwad khan]
whats wrong in my words? [dr jawwad khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
That’s was saying that your words are wrong. How Calpih Omar [RZ] was elected?
Was any of rightly guided Caliph(ra) elected by general election?
Dear Mr. Mughal and Dr. Jawwad (or Ms. Aniqa), instead of recounting the incidents which "might" have happened centuries back and renewing the controverseries which are now burried under the dust of time, please do some thing positive.
I invite you to throw some light on the process of electing or selecting these "Selected People" which are in turn going to Select a capable, just and self-preserving Caliph?
Furthermore, dont you think that your proposed process can be any different to the selection of President of USA?
@Aniqa Naz!!
there is absolutely nothing wrong in our thinking.
it is quite unfair to compare islam with secularism. both are diametrically different ways of life.One emphacise on enforcement of divine code of conduct.Other say it is your personal affair,do what pleases you.
the hue and cry is due to hypocricy,religious intolerance contrary to their claims and islamophobia.
you need to understand that secularism is based on separation of religion from state affairs. you gave many good slogans to the world that in secularism every one is free in his private life.Religion will be the personal matter and state will not have any jurisdiction in private lives. these promises attracted many muslim also and they settled in europian societies.
Now after few decades you realized that secularism must be redifined when you saw people started converting to islam at higher pace.Now you say that preserving social values of christianity oriented secular society is above all and now muslim should abolish islamic practices because these social values are under threat. not only you say it but try to enforce it.
it cause much agony and pain in the muslim communities on the one hand they don't want to give up islamic practices and on the other hand surrendering their new identity and nationality is almost impossible for them.
Taking examples from History, Khilafat dellivered till the first four Caliphs because the sincerity and the personal charracter of these individuals could overcome the inherant faults of the system.
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you didn't mention the inherant faults of khilafat….
Why khilafat couldn't diliver after 4 rightly guided caliph is an other story. If you know the hsitory than you will realize that immidiately after Hazrat Ali(ra) khilafat started converting into monarchy.
Khilafat has an essence of good governance because in khilafat only selected people of the society has a right to elect the head of state.not like pakistan where every "aela" "mela" votes for people like zardari, nawaz shareed, altaf hussain and other disgusting people in the politics.
There are many faults and shortcomings, in both the systems, but all of it is debateable and controvercial. As I do not want to make the matter complicated, so I will just offer the most glaring weakness here and that to my my mind is the fact that the Caliph enjoys "Absolute Power".
I believe in keeping at least "Judiciary" and "Administration" separate in any state.
Coming to Pakistan, Ayub Khan introduced this system of secondary democracy in this country. It turned out to be a smaller pool of humanbeings, with their mortal weaknesses. Ayub with the help of his close allies could exploit and manipulate them into voting for him blindly. This made him a virtual "MOnarch".
Any "new" ideas?
in khilafat only selected people of the society has a right to elect the head of state.not like pakistan where every “aela” “mela” votes for people like zardari, nawaz shareed, altaf hussain and other disgusting people in the politics. [Jawwad]
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If that is so then why "Religious workers/Religious Parties" participate in Election? If this practice of voting is wrong was wrong then again why the The Religious Parties Signed 1973 Constitution [Mawdudi, Norani, Mufit Mehmood] which is Parliamentary in nature giving rights of Adult Franchise to every Pakistani.
in khilafat only selected people of the society has a right to elect the head of state.not like pakistan where every “aela” “mela” votes for people like zardari, nawaz shareed, altaf hussain and other disgusting people in the politics.[Jawwad]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Please read your own words and then read the Process of Electing Caliphs [First Four – May Allah be pleased with them] and believe me you would regret that you have wirtten what you wrote above.
dr jawwad khan says: February 24, 2010 at 10:48 am – If you know the hsitory than you will realize that immidiately after Hazrat Ali(ra) khilafat started converting into monarchy.
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
You are wrong because why Hazrat Hasan [May Allah be pleased with] remained Caliph for 6 Months and I wouldn't doubt that a Brave and very Wise Companion like Hasan [RA] would surrender Caliphate to a Monarch [as per you] Hazrat Muwaiya Bin Abu Sufiyan [May Allah be pleased with him] and above all Hazrat Muwaiya [May Allah be pleased with him] was already given a glad tiding of Paradise by Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] because Muawiayh's expedition of Constantinople [Reference Bukhari] and Battalion through Land Route was lead by his son Yazeed Ibn Muawiya wherein Khalid Bin Zaid [Abu Ayub Ansari], Abdullah Ibn Zubir, Abdullah Ibn Abbas, Abdullah Ibn Omar and many elder Companions [May Allah be pleased with all of them] fought under the command of Yazid. Even Yazid lead the Funeral Prayer of Aby Ayub Ansari. By the way Ameer Yazid was Ameerul Haj in Hijri Year 51, 52, and 53 and nobody objected above all more than 300 Companions after the martyrdom of Hazrat Hussein Ibn Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] were alive and accepted Yazid as a Caliph.
If later Caliphs were monarchs [as you said above] then whyt these Companions [even Abdullah ibn Omar and Abdullah Ibn Abbas] accepted Yazid as a Caliph?????
References:
Al Bidaya Wal Nihaya by Imam Ibn Kathir
Tarikh al-Islam al-kabir. Imam Zahbi
Siyar a`lam al-nubala'. Imam Zahbi
that is right.Hazrat Hassan's (ra) 6 months should not be included in monarchy. But this 6 months time is negligible and that time left no positive effects on the institution of khilafat.
Question is not why some body accepted or not resisted?
question is what was done?
and the answer is very clear by the words of Hazrat Ameer muawiyah(ra):
""I am the first of the kings and the last of the khalifs,"
If this narration above is authentic even then there is nothing wrong being a King [show me any reference from Quran or Hadith were Allah and Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) would have disallowed the Monarch]. Criteria in Islam is Justice not the Form of Government.
Reference
whats wrong in my words?
Was any of rightly guided Caliph(ra) elected by general election?
Aamer Hayat says: February 24, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Dear Mr. Mughal and Dr. Jawwad (or Ms. Aniqa), instead of recounting the incidents which “might” have happened centuries back and renewing the controverseries which are now burried under the dust of time, please do some thing positive. I invite you to throw some light on the process of electing or selecting these “Selected People” which are in turn going to Select a capable, just and self-preserving Caliph? Furthermore, dont you think that your proposed process can be any different to the selection of President of USA?
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Dear Aamer Sb,
The above comment on Islamic History was just expressed to clear some doubts. I have nothing against "Western Secularized Adult Franchise System in Pakistan" because Pakistani "Religious Scholars" and their "Parties" were and are agreed on "Western Secularized Adult Franchise System in Pakistan".
@Amer Hayat!!!
you gave a quality advice.
in the era of Khilafat e Rashida. the caliph is selected by the shoora of the people of well known and respected sahaba e kiram(ra) and tribal elders. now the time has been changed so we do not have a people like sahaba e kiram(ra).
so the shoura can be broadend. there could be strict criteria for right to give the vote for caliph.for example:
1)the voter must be a practicing muslim.
2)minimum education should be the grtaduation.
3)must not believe in any kind of "ISM" like nationalism, secularism, bhuttoism, altafism etc ect
4) have no criminal record of any kind
5) must not be defaulter of any bank.
6) etc etc etc
there could be a lot of reasonable condition in place.
i believe that few thousands well educated, well character, practicing muslim will be enought to work as a shoora.
and as this pyramid will go towards the tip, the conditions will become more strict and on the top we could have a best of the bests.
these are my personal suggestions therefore which could be replaced by better ones.
Wrong again in point number 3 when you say Nationalism then pleased defien Nationalism because Nation State Theory [Pakistani Nation] has nothing to do with Islam.
dr jawwad khan says: February 24, 2010 at 5:22 pm @Amer Hayat!!! you gave a quality advice. in the era of Khilafat e Rashida. the caliph is selected by the shoora of the people of well known and respected sahaba e kiram(ra) and tribal elders. now the time has been changed so we do not have a people like sahaba e kiram(ra).
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Sorry to say you are wrong again. Shora was used only once.
Sorry to say you are wrong again. Shora was used only once.
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no i am not wrong.Only hazrat umar siddiq(ra) was oppointed by Hazrat Abu Bakr siddiq(ra) however the khilafat of Hazrat Usman (ra) and Hazrat Ali(ra) was not brought about by nominations. kindly see the page 194 & 299 of "bidaya wa alnihaya" vol: 7, first edition published by nafees academy karachi.
@Amir mughal!
(in reponse to nationalism)
i would refer to iqbal when he says:
" in taza khudaon men sab say barha watan hay
perahan hay jo iska woh millat ka kafan hay.
there is no nationalism in islam. in islam only thing which matters most is the faith. the philosphy of migration is based upon it i.e protect the faith.do not make compromises on the faith.
Then what about Pakistani Nationalism in the light of Iqbal's verse.
this is the speciality and privilige attached with pakistan that it is not a nation state.pakistan was made into being on the basis of the faith.
A land govern by divine orders of Allah(swt)
pakistan ka matlab kia – la ilaha illala
is it really difficult to understand the motive behind this slogan of independance?
this is the reason when people of my school of thoughts do not accept pakistan as a muslim nation state like so many muslim "banana republics"
Wrong again. Because a State which [as per you made in the name of Islam] cannot appoint a Non-Muslim Foreign Minister [he was the very First and Quadiyanis and Quadiyanis are Kaafir]
Reality of "pakistan ka matlab kia – la ilaha illala" with references is as under:
Prof Asghar Sodai’s verse “Pakistan Ka Matlab Kia – La Ilaha Illallah” was nothing but a slogan and had nothing to do with Pakistan except a Slogan.
The fact is that this oft quoted statement is an election slogan coined by a Sialkot poet – Asghar Saudai. But it was never raised by the platform of the Muslim League. First and the last meeting of All Pakistan Muslim League was held under the chairmanship of the Quaid-i-Azam at Karachi’s Khaliqdina Hall. During the meeting a man, who called himself Bihari, put to the Quaid that “we have been telling the people Pakistan ka matlab kia, La Ilaha Illallah.” “Sit down, sit down,” the Quaid shouted back. “Neither I nor my working committee, nor the council of the All India Muslim League has ever passed such a resolution wherein I was committed to the people of Pakistan, Pakistan ka matlab….., you might have done so to catch a few votes.” This incident is quoted from Daghon ki Barat written by Malik Ghulam Nabi, who was a member of the Muslim League Council. The same incident is also quoted by the Raja of Mehmoudabad. [Ahmad Bashir, Islam, Shariat and the Holy Ghost, Frontier Post, Peshawar, 9.5.1991]
References:
Mushirul Hasan, Legacy of a Divided Nation, London: Hurst & Company, London, (1997).
David Gilmartin, Empire and Islam: Punjab and the Making of Pakistan, Delhi: Oxford University Press, (1989).
Erland Jansson, India, Pakistan or Pakhtunistan?, Uppsala: Acta UniversitatisUpsaliensis, (1981).
Political and Judicial Records L/P & J/5/249, p. 155, London: British Library, (March 1946).
Political and Judicial Records L/P & J/5/250, p. 3/79, London: British Library, (March 1947).
Report of the Court of Inquiry constituted under Punjab Act II of 1954 to enquire into the Punjab Disturbances of 1953 (also known as Munir Report), Lahore: Government Printing Press, 1954.
‘Resolution adopted by Council of Action of the All-Parties Shaia Conference’, held at Poona, 25 December 1945, in S.R. Bakshi, The Making of India and Pakistan: Ideology of the Hindu Mahasabha and other Political Parties, Vol. 3, New Delhi, Deep & Deep Publications, 1997.
Stanley Wopert, Jinnah of Pakistan, Oxford University Press London, (1993).
The Constituent Assembly of Pakistan Debates,Vol. 5, 1949, Karachi: Government of Pakistan Press, (1949).
Syed Zaheer Ali , ‘Letter to Quaid-e-Azam by Syed Ali Zaheer, July1944 and the Quaid’s reply’ in G. Allana,
Pakistan Movement: Historic Documents, Lahore: Islamic Book Service, (1977).
http://www.ummatpublication.com/2010/02/25/lead29…
زید حامد تقیری ادھوری چھوڑ کر فرار
انٹرنیشل اسلامک یورسٹی: ذید حامد تقریر ادھوری چھوڑ کر فرار ‘ ترجمان کا زید حامد سے تعلق سے انکار،
@talkhaba sahib,
i wish if i could get the audio/video clip of that incident.
daily ummat is very quick in these kinds of news. well done
le me contact someone in IIU, i hope we will be successful in that.
1 – dr jawwad khan says: February 24, 2010 at 10:48 am
that immidiately after Hazrat Ali(ra) khilafat started converting into monarchy. in khilafat only selected people of the society has a right to elect the head of state.
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2 – dr jawwad khan says: February 25, 2010 at 5:15 am no i am not wrong. Only hazrat umar siddiq(ra) was oppointed by Hazrat Abu Bakr siddiq(ra) however the khilafat of Hazrat Usman (ra) and Hazrat Ali(ra) was not brought about by nominations. kindly see the page 194 & 299 of “bidaya wa alnihaya” vol: 7, first edition published by nafees academy karachi.
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Please go through 2 statements of yours. In the 1st statement you have said that in Khilafat "Only Selected People of the Society" elect the Caliph and in the 2nd statement you are saying that Only Hazrat Omar [May Allah be pleased with him] was nominated by Hazrat Abu Bakar As Siddiq [May Allah be pleased with him], and you have quoted the Al Bidaya Wal Nihaya, since you have quoted history then please go backwards and tell us as to How Hazrat Abu Bakar As Siddiq [May Allah be pleased with him] and also read some pages after the martyrdom of Hazrat Uthman [May Allah be pleased with him] and tell us the name of the members of the Shoora [Council] which elected Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him]. Also tell us as to which Shoora "Elected" Hazrat Hasan [May Allah be pleased with him] after the martyrdom of Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him].
we are going in a wrong direction.the procedure of electing a caliph is not mentioned in Quran or Hadith therefore therefore adoptation,amendment and changes are possible.
i believe that institution of khilafat needs to be revived again with all its spirit and i believe that selection or manipulated elections with all check and balance is the only solution for our survival.
i believe that democracy in a muslim society needs a revolutionary force behind it like we see in iran. i also believe in institution which could decide who is able to become a head of state and who is not. i believe that in poltics there should be a life long political carrier filtered through all check and balances.if some one want to become a president than he must take a permission from that institution then he should go through step by step i.e first muncipalty then provincial assembly then national assembly then ministries and then on higher positions.like any other fields in order to make sure that people like zardari, nawaz shareef or altaf hussain could not not enter in the politics through back doors.
@ dr jawwad and amir mughal
brothers, i think ur debate here is mostly irrelevant to the main topic and is distracting us from the objective of blocking schizophrenics like zaid hamid to become leaders of our youth.
it is quite encouraging that our humble efforts have yielded results and now the youth know the reality of this liar. You are both requested to discuss the main issue please.
Zaid Hamid flee seminar on questions about his links with Yusuf Kazzab cult http://www.ummatpublication.com/2010/02/25/lead29…
@ Lone Ranger!
no doubt, you guys did a marvelous job.jazak Allah kherun.
i am following you and @talkhaba since about 1 year and you did a heck of job which opened the eyes of people like me.
and the current incident of international university islamabad reflects your success in spreading the message.
Great work.
@lone ranger,
You mentioned the news clipping which alleges Zaid leaving the room. The piece of news in question really reflective yellow journalism where they misrepresent the events to make Zaid look the most evil.
Why don't you post that video in which he is shown "running away".
@ Miss Aniqa,
Khilafat just ended in 1924. So, it is really a relatively recent phenomenon. People were taken good care of. Specially, Muslims weren't persecuted. They could easily migrate and live in the ottoman Empire. Even the Holocaust Jewish victims were offered to be settled in Turkey. Compare that with strict Visa requirements in different Muslim lands. People can not escape the unfavourable living conditions of their impoverished lands. Resident visa is given only for 6 months now. You have to keep renewing it. You can think of living permanently here since you are afraid when you might have to leave. In Saudi Arabia,same story. While the locals are taken very good care of, the rest of the Muslim world is living in Shambles. Thanks to the rulers appointed by the secular west.
Muslims are increasingly being hated in the Western lands. They are loosing their freedoms slowly from banning Hijab, building minarets, etc. Violence against Muslims have increased tremendously.
Now compare that with e.g Dubai: Non-Muslims having FULL freedom to dress up the western way with ample skin showing, drink alcohol, gamble, eat pork, go to clubs, get higher salaries with benefits (allowing them to afford expensive living).You see the same freedom in Malaysia and other Muslims countries. Even in Saudi Arabia there are American compounds where you can be drunk till you drop. Now with this modern university in Riyadh, they will not have to wear hijab even at the campus.
اگر آپ پاکستان کا کوئی پرائیویٹ ٹی وی چینل دیکھتے ہیں تو آپ زید حامد کے نام سے واقف ہوں گے۔ آج کل وہ پاکستان کو اقبال کا پاکستان بنانے میں مصروف ہیں۔
اس مقصد کے لیے انہیں فیشن ڈیزائنروں، پاپ گلوکاروں اور پرائیویٹ تعلیمی اداروں کے ممی ڈیڈی بچوں کی حمایت حاصل ہے۔ کبھی وہ غزوہ ہند کے نام سے ہمیں سبز رنگ کے ایف سولہ طیارہ اور کبھی ایستادہ غزنوی میزائل دکھا کر بھارت پر آخری فتح کی بشارت دیتے ہیں اور کبھی امریکہ کو اقبال کے شعروں اور ہماری قوت ایمانی سے ڈراتے ہیں۔ (شاید اسی خوف سے کئ امریکی ملٹی نیشنل کمپنیاں انکے پروگراموں کو اشتہار بھی دیتی ہیں)۔
علامہ اقبال کی سازش
محمد حنیف | 2010-03-04 ،13:19
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/urdu/2010/03/post_598….
Muhammad Hanif is equally despicable like Zaid Zaman Hamid. One is Islamophobe and other is Islamofascist.
http://kashifiat.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/zaid-ha…
see how Zaid Hamid is defending Yousuf Kazzab,lying shamelessly and boldly with the anger of oppressed person.
i believe this guy is more dangerous than most of the terrorists.
The video of Zaid Hamid provides evidence for at least 3 crimes;
1) Blasphemy, by strongly defending a convict of blasphemy proven guilty by a court of Law.
2) Contempt of court, by terming the verdict issued under duress of religious extremists,
3) Treason, by showing his intent to topple up the state & Govt structure provided by the 1973 constitution and wants to install his self-styled Khilafa and Courts of Law
I can smell another Firqa called ZAMANI now….
not just zamani but "zamani yousufi kazzabi"
Dr Jawwad. Please be careful with such accusations. Previously I too was somewhat confused on this issue but after considering following evidences I have come to the conclusion that the accusation on Zaid Hamid are completely bogus. The so called Yusuf Kazzab was not a false prophet. He never claimed to be so. It seems to be a case of complete injustice to accuse and punish him for such a crime. And then use such a huge unfair decision to malign somebody who tried to defend him.
Evidences:
1. See this clip from Nawae Waqt (http://i49.tinypic.com/2l8chp5.jpg) with the written statement of the one of the greatest scholars of the time: Molana Abdus Sattar Niazi. If somebody of his cadre can defend Yusuf “Kazzab” then why blame a nobody like ZZ.
2. See this set of leaked videos of Zaid Zaman explaining his point of view. – A pretty solid defence indeed!.
Hope these go some way in clearing the matter for some of you.
Ramem
You might like going through this material:
http://zaidhamidexposition.wordpress.com/the-case…
Under "Refutation of Zaid Hamid’s Pack of Lies", the 4th point needs your special consideration.
Sheraz
Pakistani soil is very fertile for fiqa plantation and we have specialists of horticulture in this specific area so Zamani or hamami seed has been sown in our soil.Lets see what kind of fruit is coming out .It might be presented as opposite class of Taliban and this time we would see small beard, well suited and English spoken fanatic other than typical Taliban.
the same phenomenon can be seen in other parts of the world.
We should not forget the "NAZIs" of germany.
Dr khan
dont be afraid of Nazis back flow in the system.
our ISI , taliban &Tableghh groups have extended their wings of extremism in all major areas of Pakistan.So no way Nazi concept can gain its strength in our soil.
As recorded in history Nazi organized themselves against most crookedest, intellect and capable nation of the world and prepared an army to fight against strongest military forces of the world.
Contrary to this our T&T focused on poor and neglected people and used them as bait for showing the extremist trend of Muslims to non muslim.
The osama bin laden and Hitler have many alike characteristic and only difference dominant between two personalities is cowardice of Osama who for protecting himself has now become reason of mass murder of innocent Muslims in three Muslim countries of the world.
So try to focus on extremity of ignorant masses in our region which are now acting like monsters for inhabitant of state.
Ramem says: – March 6, 2010 at 1:45 am – Dr Jawwad. Please be careful with such accusations.
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Dear Ramem,
In the last part of “Zaid Hamid Buries the Yusuf ‘Kazzab’ Myth – The TRUTH 6-6 (ORIGNAL)”, Mr Zaid had openly issued a “Fatwa of Takfeer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7owM_U3ySQ&feature=related” against Pakistani State. I wonder how would you defend this latest “Whiplashing by Zaid”, there may not be good Muslims in State/Establishment [Being Fasiq and Fajir doesn’t make you a Kaafir] but Zaid knows better and declaring whole system based on “Kufr” and if that is so then why Mawdudi, Mufit Mehmood and other Mawlvis signed on 1973 Constitution and Parliament adopted it.
Dear Aamir, I do not need to defend each and every statement of Zaid Hamid. He is not a mufti… so he is not able to issue a fatwa even if he (or you) so desired… One can differ from his individual statements and views, which is fine, and I do with a lot of his views… However this still wont justify making false accusations against him or degrading him with baseless rumors such as enacting a Yusuf "Kazzab" myth or bipolar patient.
I am not sure how can anybody with medical knowledge (as the author of above article claims) make such a preposterous allegation! I have personally experienced bipolar disorder affecting close relatives and friends and I can tell you it is completely unrelated thing. In bipolar the patient's gets sudden mood swings from one extreme to another. From extremely ecstatic to being severely sad. Thats why it is called bipolar… read the linked wikipedia article. Calling Zaid Hamid's exaggerated nationalistic pride to be bipolar disorder may be funny bit it is not accurate.
We should also remember that all revolutionists and revivalists… from prophets to legendary leaders have been called mad… majnoon… at some stage of their life. So it seems to fit the pattern… and hence the article seems to be fulfilling the prophecy that it aims to suppress.
Hmmm… Zaid Hamid may actually be becoming a great leader after all… 🙂
Dear Brother,
I am not attacking Zaid Hamid's Faith [indeed I have quoted the the source in the very start of this thread]. You are wrong again because when Prophets [PBUT] were mocked then Allah's help came to defend their honour in Quran.
Above all the disease is not called Bi-Polar but it has another word "Neo-Fascism".
Zaid Hamid is quoting Abdus Sattar Niazi so let me quote an incident of General Ayub tenure about that Rampant Mullah Abdul Sattar Niazi
Maulana Abdul Sattar Niazi was vociferous on the matter of riba. But he is sticking to his central portfolio. The maulana has been known to compromise his position in the past. Perhaps,public memory will recall the incident when he shaved his beard in the Wazir Khan Mosque in Lahore to evade arrest in Ayub Khan's time and escaped by wearing a burqa [veil]. Maulana Abdul Sattar Khan Niazi http://www.senate.gov.pk/ShowMemberDetail.asp?Mem…
Nobody has the right to execute/punish anybody for the crime except State even "Mirza Yousuf Ali" [Justice must prevail as per the Law of the Land] who as per Zaid Hamid was a Member of General Zia's Majlis-e-Shora like Dr Israr [names meaning is mystery like Israr's deviant ideology], he speak/preach in India using Indian Democracy [Secular or whatever] and when he is in Pakistan always "discuss Khilafa".
However, Zaid Hamid is correct to the hilt about the Calamity of Issuing Fatwa of Takfeer [Apostasy] by Mullah against each other [same are issuing Fatwa against Zaid], instead of replying Zaid Hamid through Arguments/References [academic reply], Anarchic War Mongers Sectarians Pakistani Mullahs from every SECT [Are sects allowed in Islam] to justify their Campaign against Zaid Hamid. If we accept the Fatwas of Pakistani Mullahs [Deobandi, Barelvi, Wahabis, Jamati and Shias] against Yousuf Ali as a Genuine Fatwa then what about the "Fatwas" issued by the very same Maulvis against each other and that too of "Apostasy – Takfeer". May Allah help and Guide all of us and have mercy on this Mullah Class. Here lies the so-called Muslim Ummah! – 1
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie… Calamity of Takfir [Rulings of Heresy – Apostate] Here lies the so-called Muslim Ummah! – 2
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie… Barelvi and Deobandi Maulvis on Shias being Infidels [in Urdu.] CLICK THE LINK AND READ THE LAST PART Here lies the so-called Muslim Ummah! – 3 READ AND LAMENT http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lie…
@Ramem!
you are not paying any attention. Follow this link and listen carefully the 3 parts of zaid hamad's clarification and more importantly the the fourth part which is the speech in bait ul raza. How one can deny that Zaid hamid is actually lying about the core issue.
http://jawwad.weblog.com/finally-zaid-hamid-admit…
The reality is that the yousuf kazzab and company were exploiting the people in the name of religion and "ishq e rasool" and now zaid hamid is exploiting the youth in the name of patriotism.
Mughal
Zahid hamid is taking the message of Allam iqbal to younger generation through walkways of religion.
That is I think you are concluding from his lectures.
Iqbal whole family is living in Pakistan and you would have hardly seen any kind of nationalism and religious association in their daily acts or in professional jobs.
This family is called as one of biggest opportunist of creation of Pakistan who earned and got most of their property and income by using the name of Iqbal.
Since our college life we have been reading the poetry of Iqbal and considered it among the easiest poet whose all poetry revolve around limited principles like respectable ego of Muslims, following the Islamic principles of equality and justice and high goals of perfect Muslim in extreme resistance.
So this is quality of ever green orators to extend his basic theme to elaborate it up to what extent.
If you observe that Iqbal was considered heroic and revolutionary poet of time but did you see that his poetry ever affected our ruling people since the time of creation of Pakistan.
His poetry was written on all army bases, messes of army, colleges, universities but you feel that masses followed his message of bravery as a Muslim commander.
Even his materialistic free desires were not picked by his family members who all time looked and looking busy in grabbing the govt resources through all means.
So I think national coverage needs such kind of exemplary poetry for showing others that honorable way of living do exist in our system too but through words only.
You have mentioned the interesting piece of reality of Niazi when he was trying to run in clean shaved along with burqha.Actually his photo like that you mentioned was published on main page of news and my aunt kept it for longer period for vexing other family members seem to be his supporter.
I think Abdul aziz of Lal mosque also followed his legacy( runaway saints of Pakistan).The difference is that Armour attack had not given time to abdul aziz to clean shave in urgency.
One thing is common in both cases both first worked on army agendas and when they tried to over power on army orders, they were backfired with public humiliation.
Mughal Zahid hamid is taking the message of Allam iqbal to younger generation through walkways of religion. That is I think you are concluding from his lectures. [Nazia]
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Dear Ms. Nazia,
No you didn't get me. I wonder why Zaid Hamid is not telling Pakistanis this aspect of Allama Iqbal!
Hidden aspects of Allama Iqbal's life revealed. Begum Rasheeda Aftab Iqbal the wife of Barrister Aftab Iqbal (late) the eldest son of Poet of the East Dr. Allama Muhammad Iqbal has made a research on the life of Allama Iqbal and his family. This 506- pages research book entitled "Allama Iqbal Aur Unkay Farzand-i-Akbar Aftab Iqbal" is a unique one. Begum Rasheeda claimed that the book might reveal the hidden aspects of Allama Iqbal and his family's life.
Allama Iqbal and His Women: laazim hai dil ke paas rahay paas-baan-e-aqllekin kabhi kabhi isay tan-ha bhi ch-hoR day
(It’s good to keep the heart under the guardianship of wisdom but sometime the heart needs to be left alone)Iqbal Allama Iqbal and His Women Rafi Aamer June 10, 2007 http://www.chowk.com/articles/12023
Leaders and Reformers are to be followed [if necessary] and respected/honoured not worshiped.
IQBAL—A Muslim scholar and reformer by Dr. Khalid Sohail
http://www.drsohail.com/FOTH/July16/iqbal.htm When I was in the medical school in Pakistan, I met a number of people who were great admirers of Mohammad Iqbal. Some considered him an extra-ordinary poet, others a distinguished philosopher. And then there were others who believed he was a saint. I also met many men and women who saw him as a visionary who conceived a separate homeland for Indian Muslims. In their eyes Pakistan is Iqbal’s dream. Alongside Iqbal’s admirers I also met those cynical people who had no regard for him. They perceived him as a man who used to drink alcohol; visit prostitutes, had multiple wives, plagiarized poetry from Western philosophers and intellectuals and desperately begged to British authorities for knighthood so that he could be called Sir Mohammad Iqbal.
Mughal
through your provided link
Iqbal’s love life was so typical of the life of an Eastern poet; he couldn’t marry the woman he loved and he couldn’t love the women he married.
Iqbal, this legacy is being carried on by his grandsons in his ways.
it is not surprise for the nation that our national poet had passed his life with hand to mouth status but his family members are having unaccounted assets and living like richest icons of Pakistan.
Mughal
You got my point that we have idealized too much for nothing in our verbal ideology that is why nothing revolutionary was seen immediately after creation of Pakistan.
Countries usually show new aspect of management after getting independent state or division but nothing was observed in Pakistan and each year brought more miseries for our real working class of Pakistan.
What ever dr sohail said in his second part I can partially agree with him as people living close to him tole me like that and as usual in his last age he showed extreme religious affiliation through his personality change and demonstration in normal life.But I am sure his next generation is almost fit to such distinguished qualities what people say in criticism about him .
The testimony of brother Kashif hafeez Siddiqi.More details of lies of Zaid Hamid.
http://kashifiat.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/zaid-ha…
I hardly agree with Mr Hamid. But before printing such 'slanderous' material on your blog, please ask the concerned person. Some sane person did, and Zaid sb answered here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2aFrN1yttk
Worth a look. This is how a society is built on lies.
Momekh – I believe slander is a wrong word – there are two opposing views and sadly Zaid Hamid is smack in the middle of a controversy – when you share this particular video you seemingly choose to ignore the sections where he accepted that he knew Yousuf Ali – he then goes on to say that Yousuf is innocent etc etc and he is on court record to have defended Yousuf Ali in the court of law. So i suggest that you have a look at the other videos where he quite explicitly admits to Yousf Ali issues – havign known him in Karachi etc etc –
Am glad you are debating on the principle issue and as you suggest you might not yet be brainwashed to see him as the revolutionary which some of our youth have started to believing him as.
May god help and guide us all
hey guys!did you see that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaNN_5-t6xA&fe…
dr jawwad,i think zaid hamid is working for pak army.
Jawwad Sahab,
The bearded one in the video above said "Tamam Makatib-e-Fikr means all Sects, one glimpse of such Bearded Shamshad Begum is as under: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdLxK7HrzfA
Wake up Peshawar just gave Zahid Hamid a wakeup call > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZ-eAZTecA – I now believe gone are the days when Zaid Hamid ruled the audience by over powering the microphone – the public has realized the power to be louder then the rest – it seems that a heckling contest shall now be the hallmark of every Zaid Hamid rally – by golly now what shall he do
Hahahaha Pakistanis doing what they do best. Which is screw the one who "might" be trying to do something for the country because they have the fear of unknown. while knowingly and gladly getting screwed by Zardari and his likes.
“Our money, Saudi money, others joined together, helped the ISI, indeed, form these elements which then went in and threw the Soviets out of Afghanistan with our weaponry. And then we left and they were holding the bag,” he said, acknowledging that it was the US which helped ISI to form these extremist elements. US helped ISI create extremists: Petraeus
Sunday, March 07, 2010 http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?I…
Brother Kashif Hafeez siddiqi revealed some information based on his personal contacts.(zaid hamid is the one who introduced yousuf kazzab in the circle of people affiliated with jamat e islami)
http://kashifiat.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/zaid-ha…
salams, dont know what's truth BUT Dr. Ansari is an instructor NOT medical director
http://medschool.umaryland.edu/facultyresearchpro…
Hmmm… I was suspecting already how can a medical doctor and somebody with such high professional extpertise could be so inaccurate in diagnosis. Now it becomes clear 🙂
salams, dont know what’s truth BUT Dr. Ansari is an instructor NOT medical director
http://medschool.umaryland.edu/facultyresearchpro…
I I guess you deliberately tried not to Google my qualifications, my research papers and my academic and non academic ties.
If you would have done it, you would have found that I hold several positions in several institutions:
I am medical Director for a busy group Pediatric practice.
Till recently I was the Vice Chairman of department of Pediatrics @ PRMC Salisbury MD
I am a clinical faculty for University of Maryland.
I am a clinical instructor of AHEC program for University of Maryland and hence and preceptor and teacher of Fourth year Medical students of University of Maryland.
I am also a teacher and Clinical instructor for a different campus of University of Maryland Eastern Shore in Berlin Maryland for Physician Assistant program.
I am author of several Academic and research papers published both in USA and in international magazines. You can put my name in PUB MED and will be able to see all those papers.
Hence if you questioned my designation to ignominy me, then unfortunately it might back fire and now all the readers will know much more about me than what they knew before. According to a Hadeeth of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) self praising is a dangerous act. Hence I try to tell people about myself as less as possible. But since you asked I had post a reply!
Guilty until proven innocent. At least as innocent as President Zardari!
Guilt is a little feeling hidden in core of heart as responsibility of accepting wrong doings with close and needy people but proving guilty through guilt of acceptance is job of human minds and conscience.
President zardari proved many times that he is conscienceless man as he never ever accepted his crimes against state and people .So he would remain in crystal of innocence as long his international supporters will be firm to support him at all costs of degradation and humiliation which are granted to him at the cost of residence in president house.
Ms and Ramen
salams, dont know what’s truth BUT Dr. Ansari is an instructor NOT medical director
http://medschool.umaryland.edu/facultyresearchpro…
I guess you deliberately tried not to Google my qualifications, my research papers and my academic and non academic ties.
If you would have done it, you would have found that I hold several positions in several institutions:
I am medical Director for a busy group Pediatric practice.
Till recently I was the Vice Chairman of department of Pediatrics @ PRMC Salisbury MD
I am a clinical faculty for University of Maryland.
I am a clinical instructor of AHEC program for University of Maryland and hence and preceptor and teacher of Fourth year Medical students of University of Maryland.
I am also a teacher and Clinical instructor for a different campus of University of Maryland Eastern Shore in Berlin Maryland for Physician Assistant program.
I am author of several Academic and research papers published both in USA and in international magazines. You can put my name in PUB MED and will be able to see all those papers.
Hence if you questioned my designation to ignominy me, then unfortunately it might back fire and now all the readers will know much more about me than what they knew before. According to a Hadeeth of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) self praising is a dangerous act. Hence I try to tell people about myself as less as possible. But since you asked I had post a reply!
Good to know you are well qualified! Now kindly also qualify your diagnosis for ZH since it doesn't seem accurate. How do you justify calling him to suffer with Bipolar disorder? Funny exaggerations and hyperbole aside, was it not just a disrespectful and degrading personal attack?
Since you quoted a hadith, I assume you do respect their general authority and importance. So you would understand the danger of making inappropriate accusations. Even if a negative accusation is correct it is considered gheebah which incurs Allahs wrath as per quran [49:12]. Incorrect or exaggerated accusation (slander) is even worse!
Criticising somebody's views is a healthy thing but calling somebody names is morally unacceptable. This article crosses the boundary by calling ZH a mad person.
Dr. Mohsin,
Don't worry about these crappy posts from Zaid Hamid Kezzab's assistant Asif Shirazi.
Thanks for writing this.
is he really mad or suffering from any psychological disorder? i don't know but one thing is true that he is a liar. he was the deputy of a imposter and assistant in all of his crimes. that has been proven. Now time has come to tell him that he has been exposed, stand down and do what he do best i.e gaurding the stolen money
If I am not wrong the one who issued Fatwa against Yousuf is in the News. Twice in a day and both the time Mawlvis are attacked Mufti Saeed Jalalpuri, 3 others gunned down in Karachi http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=100519
Jang Censored the news by withholding the name. Jalalpuri was of Khatam-e-Nabuwat and Abdul Ghafoor Nadeem was of Sipah Sahaba.
One dead, four hurt in Nazimabad firing
http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=100480
Zaid Hamid named in Jalalpuri murder FIR Dawn Reporter
Saturday, 13 Mar, 2010 http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-…
zaid hamid's lies about afghan war 1/7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA2OzK5SDIc&fe…
Things are heating up fast!
Mr. Mohsin I feel sorry to tell you that your level of patriotism is obvious from your 17 years gap to see what is happening in Pakistan. However being a Pakistani I want to thank you for taking time out of your busy medical practice to give your piece of advice to the nation.
As far as Piri Faqeeri is considered, it is the heart of Islamic teachings and you probably should be aware of the big sufi orders in Pakistan. However there are fake peers and this pious living is also exposed to manly corruption. If you trust someone and he betrays you, that does not prove you are also a fraud to trust in the person. So be sensible that if that Pir Mr. Zaid was following turn out to be a fake one or he made the claim which on one can make, that proves Zaid Zaman Hamid a fake? By the way, for your information, people who do not understand fakeeri life, call the followers of faqeers insane in the first place. However it is not like that, you should dig deeper in the sufi orders and how they meet with Hazrat Ali (AS) and Nabi Pak (SWS).
Lastly I want to state that, Sir, in all this tough situation, where our current government officials are renowned looters and frauds. A person like Zaid Hamid who purely talks about Pakistan, our dignity (not musharraf's dignity, true one right), and gives people hope that we are not defeated yet and we will win, this is a bad thing?
You guys seem to be more impressed with India and USA, always remember that Islam won all its fights with having fewer number of people but having the best of faiths.
So have faith – we are not scared of India USA or anything else , but Only and only ALLAH (SWT).
Pakistan Zindabad!
I dont like Zaid and I am not supporter of him but people like Mr. Mohsin Ansari who showoff that they are serving in US for 17 years also dont have right to comment on people like Zaid….what we have to do with your 17 year practice Mr. Mohsin Ansari? huh! you jamatis and mullahs talk about islamazation and serve America…first look into your pocket Mr! tum logon ko islam america mein baith kar hi q yaad aata hay?
M. Bilal,
You are your crooked Pir, Zaid Hamid Kezzab use crooked logics.
Zaid Hamid says since India is our enemy, don't question me (aka just follow my blindly)…
How does that justify?
Yes, we want a leader, but does that mean we start to preach any ch_utoo who comes along in the name of love of Pakistan?
Pakistany Army bred the elements that they are selling now and in a same way Pakistan Army will sell this new_breed_of_followers when the price comes right.
Zaid Hamid is not against US, if that was the case he would blast Pakistan Army, which is funded by US.
Q: Where is this guy getting the funding from? I'm sure he does not work at 9 to 5 job.
A: Pakistan Army
Q: where does Pakistan Army gets its funding from?
A: Money in the form of AID, from who?
keep dis-illusioned and keep dreaming of sweet dreams, because you don't want to wakeup, the reality is not sweet. so keep sleeping….
People against zaid hamid dead or what? where are the links guyz? comeon